[000:00:00;00] did you have injuries, were there injuries, i have a shrapnel injury to the left lower leg, soft tissues, back, chest area, and it will be explained somewhere in this radius, they are shallow, i have a penetrating shallow one, something else, well, there are fragments somewhere they got it, they didn’t get it somewhere, there were no longer any conditions to get it, they just struggled there, it’s painful, it’s unpleasant, they didn’t get it, well, okay, we’ll get it in ukraine, i think, okay, but ukraine is still far away , i think it was before polon. and when they were already in polona and realized that the conditions were not the ones you thought about, and that the enemy will not arrange a warm bath for you, did it happen on the first day? no, no, there, ah, there was a very large number of people, too large, and they were also not ready, as far as i understand, we

stopped by, we didn’t have or... in olenivtsi, in general, we moved freely, workers walked around we are like that, well, it’s normal, somewhere they said some basic rules of behavior so that we should adhere to them, we’re okay, there were no beds yet, well, on the floor, well, like, damn it, we slept on the concrete floor and it’s cold and normal there, but here , and here and it's warm and he seems to be gone for a day. they probably didn’t eat the first meal or maybe more, because we sat in the buses for quite a long time, then the first meal was, i was so happy , i don’t understand, i thought, damn, it’s cool , it’s normal that it was possible, i think, seriously, they gave us bread, a lot of bread , there is such a piece, but we dreamed about it, we were dying of hunger, here is bread, was there a fish cutlet

? sweet and rice, and at that time it was too much for me, we thought, damn it , it was possible, seriously, like why then then until we were dying that now they blow it and it seems like they don't touch it and we will return home, but these were one-time promotions at the beginning, then they told us that they just didn't have time , they didn't have time, food started to spoil, so i understand that there is a lot about the administration itself, i am so i think that the correctional colony, because then i changed the colony, and in each colony i had my own food, my own rules of conduct, my own discipline, and well, if today was an exchange, that’s right, i understand, i managed to see it, today was an exchange, guys came back in military things, someone with a cross and a token, it was all taken from us, completely, well, they stripped us

completely. prohibition cross, everything is prohibited, there are some other rules, well, looking at where the guys are sitting in luhansk, as far as i know, not bad, not bad attitude, not bad food, there is a tv, radio, this, this, i, i dreamed about it there, i i really wanted to be aware of the events, because when you are isolated and you only listen to what someone tells you is fiction, and then it is not true, not true, not true, not true. yes, you stop believing in anything, because the all-to-all exchange was already signed 43 times, i don't know, every month we had to leave there to go home and come back, but that's all, how did you keep track of the days, not having access to information, phones in you are not there, there is no television , we had a dining room, there is a schedule in the dining room, there is a schedule, and it has a date, uh, or someone remembers in any

case, well, three. the food was , no matter what, the attitude, where was it, in which colony was the worst attitude towards you, in olenivka we were not touched, well, i personally was not touched, in horlivtsi, the admissions committee, the open day , this is a one-time strong promotion, at which they simply let you know what circumstances you are in here. they make it clear very well, and you already have everything, but how exactly, well, of course , there is some use of something somewhere, even good, very good, then i don’t know, well, now i’m telling with a smile, because this is a moment , which i already had in my life, i treat it normally, it did not

break me, like, well, at the moment when it happened, then it broke very much, so that i turned over in my head here and there for several hours, which were very difficult, and i was already thinking that this will all end there, i will live for a few days, i will see how it is, what will happen next, i will find a glass, i will hide my veins there, i'll shout something at them and goodbye, i think i won't be able to tolerate this for long, i won't be able to, well, it was difficult for me to tolerate it, it's just normal for me to die in war, it's normal to die from bullets or from shrapnel from some kind of shrapnel, i don't know if it's normal to die in combat, but you can to do something, you can protect it there and everything is in your hands. as if, although the enemy has an advantage, but you can do something there, you are in captivity, you are a lawless, lawless person, you are being choked for a long time, a long time, you are a lawless person, and you cannot defend yourself, well, you can

try, but you you understand that you will not do this under any circumstances, the terrorist attack in volenivtsi, july 22, you were in this colony, yes, i was there at that time, but not in this barrack, this barrack is somewhere 300 -400 m approximately from me was located, it was prepared, well, how it was prepared, it was done for show, there were beds , there were all conditions, the others had worse conditions than in that barrack, it was show, they were waiting for some commission from somewhere, as far as i understand, they were waiting for some commission, to the demonstration barrack, they selected people, specifically, how they selected, who selected, i, well, i only heard rumors, which i will not say today, but there were only azov people, they were in a separate barrack anyway,

but they were from that barrack were also selected, the boys were brought there in one day, one day, somewhere from lunch started, around 10 o'clock, several stages, lists of lists, everyone was brought there, there were normal conditions for them. i even thought there, blech, why was i so lucky, and the guys told me before that, they just went with us , well, i could ride there on some rights, but it would be worse for me, i stayed, and that evening i left to the yard, the local sector, it was dark, an explosion rang out, and there were a lot of screams, a lot of screams, then shooting in the air and i was chased away, ran away. with armed, armed security the territory, inside, and what to control the situation so that no one went out or ran away, there was an armed guard and we were all chased away , well, i just heard screams, i just heard screams,

i understood that it was on the territory and i understood where it was, that the next day they said that it was ours who hit them, it must have been hymers, cool, the fact that the guys were brought there and that this barrack was being prepared for them, that ’s cool, and this barrack was being prepared, many people knew about it, many people knew that they would go there, well, they and we are also included, because the azov people will live there, but no one knew that they would live for a few hours, or that they would return without a toe, i recently saw the guys who were in that barrack, i met with them. i fought with them, we recognized each other, we recognized each other, i really wanted to see them, i have seen a lot of such guys lately, with whom there is something to talk about, they understand me, i understand them, they were also happy for me to see, they were just giving an interview

about this event in baraka, i didn't know what they were there, it's just, i didn't see that they were there, and i hug, we smile, we laugh at some situations, er. i say, what, well, what type of barracks were you in, they asked me, i answered , i say, what about you, they say, barrack 200, i’m like that, well, i think, damn it, there are living people standing in front of me, someone just, like a guy, and what not, no business, someone smiles, says, i don’t have fingers on leg, someone has a hole in their side, but they survived, they survived and to this day they take an active combat role, they were captured, they were in barrack 200, they there they defended their interests, the interests of their state very well, they proved themselves very well, and today they are again taking an active combat role in the zaporizhia direction, in other directions, and i saw them, i was very

happy, they are like that immediately i am divided, i say, wait, i say, okay, let me see the world, i say i want rehabilitation, i want to rest, everything will be fine, but i want to feel like a person now, i want to enjoy some moments that i dreamed about, which i didn't have and i try to enjoy to enjoy life, it's like, it's not very successful, but because somehow, the views have changed, the worldview is very strong, for what exactly? and in general, on life, on the attitude towards it, and some things that i used to like, to this day, i don’t like them, they don’t inspire admiration, they don’t give me any emotions, that something, something is small, some kind of simple the kindness of a person can cause some emotions in me, but what the hell, i don't know whether i should cry, miss

something, or be very happy emotionally, i don't know, there's something somewhere to love someone, what else, emotional state, well, not very , let's say this, well, i think it's all being restored, i wanted to ask about our mutual acquaintance, maksym levchenko, he was the hero of our program , where did you meet, damn it, we met him somewhere, when we were going on an exchange, we didn't know what it was about me , they loaded me into, well, with a bag on my head, everything is fine, our hands are tied and i'm very, it's not normal, it's not well, it's not normal, but then i was more concerned that this phasing is mine i didn't want to go to other places, i didn't want to very much , i didn't want to because i got used to it there and over time the relationship there became normal, just like that, well, almost never at all, it was possible to beat something , well, for some kind of violation of the order of the regime,

yes, it was possible, but then it seemed to stop to touch, they already behaved normally there, normal food there, damn it, i tried buckwheat, i tried buckwheat in captivity, it was in horlivka, but there three times, there is more bread there, well more than in some places, horlivka, it tries to be normal, well there, it's more like the administration of the colony, i don't know how are allocated, now there are already, well, at times it was even better, some conditions, well, something is being done , medicines, examinations, then, well, i think, everyone already understands that there are exchanges, if, we must not, not show a bad picture, because i saw how their boys come back, well, damn, well-fed roaches, because on the column i envied the prisoners for a while, the prisoners got better, because i saw them , i think, damn, it’s normal, it’s completely different to them, they eat a lot more, they do not do

what we do, they are not touched at all, they they feel normal there, i think, damn it, people who broke the law, maybe killed, raped, something else, they feel normal, i am a person who was born in this country, i am damn it, it’s normal, but i was born everything in the country, i grow up, i live here, i am a patriot of my country, i protect my state, because damn it, even before that i swore to serve the people of ukraine. and besides the oath, even if i didn't give it to her, i understand that there is an enemy, there are people who came to take our land, they rape, destroy, they kill, take out houses, and this continues to this day, there is no order there and there will be no order in those temporarily occupied cities today, because i have acquaintances there, i communicate with someone somewhere, i left, i was in the occupation, i was in the occupation, when another movement started, i fought. we were abandoned, well, we were not registered

, and there was nothing there, well, these military commissariats are very good at doing their job, when they give people who are helicopter pilots, they give them a machine gun, they don’t give them anything, they say, go and fight like that, there is no command where this person is with me, like damn, he could fly, i could serve in the artillery, and we are standing, i am in sweatpants and white sneakers, it is normal in the image, the boy is so cool, licked, like a technique ... well as vypaziki, well, what are we going to do, we will meet a little type, but what if we meet this technique, we took prisoners at that time, we even transferred a certain number to the dnipro, then everything, we were surrounded, i am well, okay , i think it's normal, well, i have military documents, i will be convinced, i think, well, okay, let's see what it will be, maybe now ours will come, we will help there from the inside, i hid everything there with a machine gun on the side for several days, i 'm not at home, well, i'm not at home, why put the family there, i think at all

bullshit, i’m telling you all. well, i watched it happen, well, that’s it, that’s how your money was seen there from lawlessness, let’s rip out atms there , come to homes, squeeze cars, like a wheelbarrow is cool, like, damn, agronomists everyone there for money somewhere to be taken away, shot innocent people, civilians who have never fought, i understood that there was a desire, we had a group there, it was already very small, how can we go, i say something, someone, and such, well like, but we can, we got together, left, well, we went as we went, chatted among them, posed, shook hands, took a cigarette there, saw how many there were, and counted them. where can we go, how can we do what we had in our arsenal, boy, they dropped a wheelbarrow there in the evening, we are so op-op, they are not there, we are looking, weapons, well, it’s fine, it’s cool, the boys are generally fools, i think they hid and fought in battle, that’s what we did, well, on a civilian among them, it was fine for a while, then

i realized that it would be too inappropriate if i died there, it's not that no one will know about me, i'm not there , there will be a very, very difficult situation, there is very little, no one knew anything about us, there were already no contact, very little, it's there, i don't know, 10 people are not there was, we tried to gather people, but they were afraid there, there were weapons, they were armed, well somehow, maxim, he was not among those, you met him in captivity, after, damn it, we were not at the positions of vazovstal, no, in one correctional colony, we got to know each other on the way to the exchange, i was just with him started talking there, i didn't... understood who it was, what it was, well, i didn't see him, i just pushed him, said, where are you from, well, like, i tried to understand the situation, because at some point everyone was well, with bags on my head and something , i was already wandering, because a normal

road began, a very good road, i understood, well, i i thought, maybe investigative actions, some other thing, maybe right now in donetsk somewhere they will interrogate me and bring me back, i think , i don’t want to go anywhere, here i have been wandering along the normal road for a very long time, and i think so, that’s all, i’m taking off, some i counted how many of us there were at that time, there were already eight people, who, who from where, talked to everyone, i look at the box, i say, stand there, box, there is an ax, there are some tools, oh well, i look, a canister with alcohol , i think it's normal, i came up, i look behind the escort, u you are a patriot, well, there are two men, that’s all, i think, it’s fine, now i’m landing , i look, there’s no one on the road, i think , a canister on... well, axes in hand, let’s think of something, let’s run away, i think, well, it’s better , than i'm thinking of coming, like to another colony, because my health may not be enough, well , both psychologically and physically, like i 'm not so healthy, i think, no, i think, that's all, i 'm starting to work out the option there, but they such, but damn, maybe an exchange, but damn, i say i want too, like, but, well, i don’t know what will happen,

i'm looking at staganroh, guys, we're going to the wrong place, i know it's very bad there, we're slowing down, we're still being attacked there. the guys don't see me there normally, they throw me in and i don't know why they do it, they throw people out and beat the old man there with sticks, they hit me there, boy, damn it, they know where we're going, why are you doing this , we are coming to our country, we will tell about it, well, i don’t want to tell because there will be some bad attitude towards the boys, well, why is it because of the fact that they do that, this, i understand that this is an individual representative, it is not so no... well, not the system, but some individual representative, there is something there, well, why are you touching a person whose hands are tied there, he is nowhere i didn’t see anything, it’s old, it’s throwing him on the kamaz, hitting him, what does this mean, the person is now returning, he has contempt for you, because you, you are the enemy, you are the occupier, you came,

and what they did with us there, it does not motivate, it hardens, and this is theirs. by force it gives birth in me not only contempt, i just them, well, at some point you realize that you don't hate them, well, not all of them, well, no, not all of them, civil, non-civilian, well, that's another question, but to some certain categories of people, and you think that you, that you will fight to the last drop of blood, you can die, of course you don't want to, like, everyone wants to live, but, but, it's normal that there is a war and people die. taganroh, taganroh , and maxim, maxim was abandoned, maxim was beaten, he is so healthy, damn it, he, well, he is not small, i talked to him, he, he was still there smiling, he felt that we were going on an exchange, then, the plane, the flights, that’s it , i have a ringing in my ears from the concussion, i didn’t

understand anything, at all, i didn’t understand that maxim, somehow, he was right next to me the whole way, i i don't know why, i just happened to be nearby somehow . nearby, then already on the bus, in the belogorodsk region, before umin, when the guys asked us there, like, have you eaten, no, we say, like, not yet, not at all, and someone there commanded that someone went to the store, they bought sandwiches and made sausages, and they us, well, guys like hands we will not untie, they loosened our chains, and he says come on, i will touch you, you raise your hands, he says, they raised and ate a sandwich, he says we must eat, they gave us water, well, normal and adequate. people asked, that's all, well, that was adequate , they loosened our bandages , they treated us normally, who needed medical help there, who needed to go to the toilet, something else, well , they explained the whole procedure, that we now have an obin . and when they prepared us with sandwiches, they say, guys, the bread has run out, well

, in russian, of course, guys, the bread has run out, there is sausage, who will be and that's all, someone is sitting next to me, me, me, me, and roger, in short , eats all the sausage they had, it's just, i'm there, i'm there, you're not used to what on , and roger , he's fine, like, let's bring everything here, he eats everything, they don't finish their food there, just give him to them, he's healthy, he really wanted to eat. and he ate, and then, then we somehow started talking with him, in the hospital, where else, in the hospital, everything was normal, as if it was, and then, when we were already released, and for a while i was there while i was looking for my apartment, there in us i was on medical leave, i was alone, and something was bothering my head a little, well, roger called for a while like a shot, but he says that everything is fine, something gave a little signal. well, he hinted, he didn't say, he didn't complain, and that's all, he, he's from me in short, he takes me, he drags me everywhere, he's there, come on, says, well, what are you doing, he says, tre, you have to, he says,

relax, he says , let's be friends, i say, let's go, tipa, and we communicate with him today very well, he is a very positive person who impresses me, i impress to him, we talk together everywhere, at his place, no, it won’t be, well, in short, i’m going to visit him, like, he’s there, well, he ’s sad, he says, come on, that’s it, i’m visiting him, we somewhere, somewhere, he came to me, yes, very well, they called to say that you are already at home, in your native land, eh, when they already gave me a mobile phone, i didn’t want to stand then, i think, damn it, i don’t want to say two words , because there will be a lot of emotions, imitations, and well, just some two words, there are 10 words, well , wait a minute, i want to communicate, so i, i want to find out what and how, because i didn't know a lot, my whole family was... to date in the occupied territory and i just didn't know what, where, how, i didn't know if hostilities were going on there, and i

i didn’t know, everything is fine with them, yes, to date, yes, but there is a brother who never fought, when he found out that i was in mariupol on bail, that i was a prisoner, he left there, he, he somehow relates well, he didn't want to participate for a long time until he found out where, i didn't tell anyone anything, he found out where. he left left for zaporozhye, there on the very first day, found a house for his wife where she would live, left his wife, went to the military commissariat and left from there, took an active part in the battle near bakhmut, was wounded, and i am the one who talks about it, i think, damn, you're serious, somehow i would very much not want someone close to me to die, and for me, the fact that something will happen to me, well, i'm fine with it. well , i perceive it normally, like, i don't want to know about

my relatives, nothing bad, how many of them are you i didn’t see it, at first it was full-scale, well, before that i saw it there a few months ago, at first i didn’t see it at all, but now i’ve already seen ghosts there, they came, everyone called, somehow, well, most of their acquaintances, friends there during this entire period saw you now you are resting, and you are undergoing rehabilitation, resuming treatment, planning to return to the front, this is a question about which, i explain to you like this, after the moment of the exchange, i said in the hospital that i am very well, i have no health problems me, everything everything is as good as possible, i was thinking about leaving the hospital as soon as possible, i was thinking about vacation, i would see my relatives and immediately go to the front, i was thinking about immediately going to the front, as soon as possible, and over time, when i had a little time to walk with max, he told me, well

, we, we understand the static for today, we understand that it will be too fast, well, fast, if something goes wrong, and something can go wrong, then you need to rest, you need to rest and recover, psychologically and physically as much as possible, physical form is difficult to restore, because there are problems ask something else there, well, i 've been there for a month, i haven't made any corrections at all. i can't, i can't eat normally, for me food, well, it's kind of tasty, i don't, well, there is a certain portion size, after which i'm already sick, i can't stuff everything anymore, i understand what i need, i i try to eat there, buy vitamins, something else there, it's all time, time for rehabilitation, a long period, but i understand that i'm still, i'm still lucky, the statistics are very bad, well, i was in a place where us.. .. two for exchange, and there are still 1,200 people left, i know what

in a different way, well, there are a lot of places, i know the statistics approximately, that where and i understand that the boys do not see their relatives for too long, about some, there are some who do not have relatives, and it is very difficult, and when you do not know , that it is very difficult with your relatives, no one thinks about you there, well, you don't care about yourself anymore , you only think about your relatives and hope, pray to god that everything will be fine with your relatives, and you are like that, it's already something the next stage is some, well, they will change it someday, but god's life will end, well, like, you're fine you already perceive all the things, all the options are real for you, and you just wait, you, i don’t know, they gave books, they were happy with the books, which, and different, many books, well, mostly classics, russian, no, not only heitwanger, well

no german, damn it, the roman empire, a lot yes, well, detectives, well, the library is very big, there were ukrainian books, no, no, unfortunately, unfortunately, this, this is a restriction, this is forbidden, but, but even so, like, i started to understand something there, i think, damn it, books are cool, i think, i want a library at home, i never in my life, did not get pleasure from reading a book, and there i am reading a book and it just tears me up from the inside, i think, damn it, why am i earlier? read, i read a lot of books there during this time, during this period , and i understand that, that it is useful, well, something useful, you know, like, against the background of all this , i found some advantages, i found advantages from the fact that i will get to know some people there, unfortunately, to this day i still haven't seen them, well, i hope that i will see them, i will communicate with them by their families, because at the last moment, when i was already supposed to be loaded onto

the stage, i was there with a friend with someone...' he tells me, secretly gives me a small pocket, says here my mother's number, says call, whatever please, i understand that they will take it from me, i will not drive it, well, somehow there was an understanding, i scrolled in my head for 5 minutes in my head, everything is there to go, i throw away the bill and go, well, there are a lot of thoughts, i scroll all the time his mom's phone number so i can think i'll just go out now i'm first as long as i can remember this number, i will call his mother and tell her that he is alive, that he is fine, did they call? yes, i called, i called, i remembered some numbers, some relatives found me themselves, i through various organizations, i contacted most of the people i talked to their relatives, and damn, they were happy with the communication with me, because i was very positive, i was happy and explained that today, in fact , everything is normal, like, but i'm like, like

normal, i understand that the situation is not affected by anything. but he is alive, he is whole, and simple wait, pray, he loves you, there we had a splash , it’s that there was some kind of correspondence, with relatives, volunteer, some kind of non -volunteer, well, you also received letters, you couldn’t answer, you could receive, limited without no news , without information, but this was enough, they wrote to you like this. my mother wrote to me, guys, parents, well, when they don't know about you, for a very long time, we are there, we started there already, when the months passed there, when some videos started to appear there somewhere with us, then i no longer i know who is there and how agreed, well, i think, that is another question, please tell me, how did society, ukrainian society, welcome you, you were not at home for too long, what

annoyed you, and what pleases you? didn't we let you down, is it possible that you are ashamed of us, and why should i be ashamed of other people , society, yes, and you do not influence everyone, and i should go make remarks to everyone, well, i want to, meaning, do remarks, i already at the beginning wanted the first days, and then i realized that, well, what is the point of explaining something to them, well, the person will not understand me, so what it is here, right there, when the war was, when it was here, and now what, well, there is something , well, somewhere there, someone threw money at the army, it went down, someone, someone does not understand what the ukrainian language is, i am all all my life, for 24 years i communicated in russian, exclusively in russian, all my life, until i got off the bus to