[000:00:00;00] you see, the most important thing for the former vice president is that he did not reach a certain decision to participate in the future debate, and he did not want to be ashamed of remaining as a candidate, but he did not collect money or donors in various public logs, he is on the level to qualify, to qualify for the upcoming debates, and this is the main thing, now we can see how many will be left on the republican side, which as everyone now thinks, there will be at most four candidates left when the voting actually begins in

mid-january, i just had a meeting this week with one candidate, a former governor, one haley, who is very pro-ukraine, and also, there will be a pro -ukraine vote during that debate, but we haven't seen the full debate yet, which in which former president trump will join, even if he will have the opportunity, because his court cases are very important right now, but this is what happened to the vice president, former vice president pentz, it will also happen to various senators who are still there are candidates, but everyone will understand that they will not participate in future debates, then, but what we haven't heard from the vice president , who he's supporting now, who he's, he's running for, it's, it 's pretty important as well, specifically before those first primaries that start, i

said , in the middle of january, one, the other in new hampshire, and at the end of february, it will be the biggest election in south carolina, where the former governor nekiley was, was the governor herself there, huh, and as for donald trump, as far as now, changes and which of sides, and maybe all this happens diametrically oppositely, there at different moments, how does his support vary, depending on... the accusations against him, depending on the accumulation of those accusations, depending perhaps on his public appearances, which are not always good for those with intelligence, but do not seem at least like that, i'm sorry, it's just erdogan orban, it was mentioned, mr. andriy, that's how it is reflected in the states, and now it didn't hurt him, now he has quite a lot of

supporters who root for him, but, it all means nothing, beyond when we start those preliminary elections, those first rounds, which will be in each individual state , and then we will really understand whether the americans after those four years of his term, or after all those court cases, or when he not only talked about erdogan, but also praised hezbollah, for two weeks. so it's all about people saying they still support him, that's one thing, but when the moment comes to actually vote, to fill out that ballot, we won't know until then if they really still support him as not only a candidate, but to become president then we'll see, really. thank you, mr. andrii, for including us, for understanding our

ukraine here. as they say to the humorist, he is already a little, to be honest, deformed because of the war, but as it is, andrii dobryanskyi, the director of communications of the ukrainian congressional committee, joined our broadcast, it is very valuable, also considering the fact that in the united states now, well, it is not exactly an active time of day, but mr. andrii always allocates time for inclusions on espresso so that our viewers know and understand even more, and tens of thousands ukrainian families. and lost relatives in the war. our colleagues from france 24 visited several such families. let's see their stories. such villages in the west of ukraine were created for

those who love. maria grew up here, raised her children and buried her husband. volodymyr, a former farmer, died in battle in donbas a month ago. he could not go to fight, because we raised nine children, but he went, saying that it was his duty. and i am proud of him. this is one of the youngest sons of the deceased. on his t-shirt there is an inscription: my dad is a hero. the history of this the mourning of a large family shook the whole country. after the photo and video. because the family has lost its breadwinner, however, the help does not stop, good day, good day, mrs. maria, good day, how are you

doing, it will take a year for maria to receive her pension as a widow, a participant in hostilities, because the public services are overwhelmed with such requests , despite the obvious emotions, maria is determined... determined. our sacrifice cannot be in vain. we must win this war before my sons reach military age. i live only for their children the entire country is littered with thousands of photographs of those who gave their lives while fulfilling their duty to the country. this boy is the son of tamara, her husband died last year during the siege of mariupol. only a few marks remind her of her husband, since the body was never found. over the past year, i learned to take care of myself, then help from the state began to arrive, but i

receive it in parts. we were supposed to have a family of three, but now there are only two of us left, and it's hard to think about our future. we can not succumb to the chaos that this war brings. evgennia dared to take an incredible step. a month after her husband's death in donbas, she volunteered to go to the combat medics where her husband was fighting. she used to work in a store and never held a syringe in her hands, and now she is preparing to go to the front line. i do everything i can to save the lives of soldiers. in memory of my husband, i lead at the expense of those whom i saved from death. if someone is seriously injured, i say think about your wife. unfortunately, when my husband was dying, he was nearby. not was a medic, i always wear his military tag around my neck, which was on him when he died, it is a symbol for me. as she gets closer to the war zone, she gets closer and closer to the danger that her husband also

faced, in a video taken by her brothers, she can be seen working quickly during the firefight to help the wounded soldiers, it's therapy for her, yes she continues her fight... for her country. would my husband support me? i am sure that he would be proud of me. of course he would worry because we have three children and i can perish as he did. but if we sit at home and do nothing, then we will definitely not win. the ukrainian authorities do not provide any official data on the number of dead ukrainian military personnel, and according to us estimates, there are almost 70,000 of them. and therefore. so many families, such as the families of maria, tamara and evgenia, are now mourning their own. we continue the live broadcast

of the tv channel, we talk about the most important things, and more and more information is coming from the occupied territories, which, in fact, makes, you know, the hair on the skin stand on end get up. nine civilians, including a family with two children, were shot dead in the occupied volnovas of the donetsk region. the bodies were found in a private house. this is reported by the investigative committee of the russian federation and astra propagandists. the so-called russian law enforcement agencies say that the bodies of people were found with gunshot wounds in a private house. this is the astra publication, with reference to local residents, neighbors and relatives of the murdered, reports that the murder was committed. he is a russian serviceman with his husband natascha did not share something, obviously one of the killed. the top came immediately and they started trying to hide everything , they told the neighbors to keep quiet, but the relatives of the victims reported that

the family was killed on october 27, on the birthday of one of the relatives, in addition to the family of four, husband andriy and wife natalie, as well as their children, nastya and nikita, five more people who were in the house were killed, and journalist denys kazanskyi writes that the day before, one of the men, andriy kapkanets , had a quarrel with the kadyrivites, who tried to extort his house, they decided to take revenge...' came during the celebration and killed everyone, this is how russian peace comes to the house, as they say, and of course, this is another war crime of the russian occupiers on our land, for which they will be responsible, well, instead, i will remind that ukraine, ukraine is making progress, in rapprochement with its demands, we definitely have certain obligations to the european union,

before the real negotiations on our accession to the eu begin, according to the responsible officials, we have such quite good ones optimistic prospects already for the end of this year, they say that a consensus is slowly brewing in europe on this, at least on the assessment of our european integration efforts. we will also remind you that the united states... america has its own vision of how our country should change, so that , you know, no one likes it, first of all, and no one is suitable as a partner, so that it could exist independently, was sovereign and subject in decision-making, and could protect its citizens at all levels and no longer seemed so lenient piece for dictatorships, ala the russian

federation, well, i think that few people would argue with me, but ukraine really needs to take a little step in that direction , at the end of september, if you remember, the white house and the white house national security adviser on international affairs of economy, mike pyle, sent a letter to the donors coordination platform with a list of reforms that ukraine should make in order to continue. in particular, providing her with support, comprehensive support. then there were a lot of insinuations about how reliable it was in general this document, which was at the disposal of ukrainian journalists, is official, in the end, the united states embassy in ukraine confirmed through its social networks that this letter, of such a recommendatory nature, really exists, and it actually... even prescribes the sequence of those reforms, which must be

performed in ukraine, in order for everyone to be calm, and for us and our partners. the document prescribes changes according to the priority of their implementation, the first there are up to three months, three to six months, and one year, and then 18 months. in particular, these changes concern the functioning of the supervisory boards of state-owned enterprises, anti-corruption bodies, this is a specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office, nabu, on... the supreme council of justice, the judicial branch of government in general, and changes in the work of the ministry of defense of ukraine and all law enforcement agencies as a priority during the year , this letter again, we emphasize , is the previous one so very framework, recommendatory, i don’t even know if i can say a document, but it very clearly outlines the priorities of our partners, and not

to agree with this would be quite strange, you know, like shooting yourself in the foot, but this is my opinion , about the opinion of our next guest, i will ask now, we are in touch with konstantin zhivago, entrepreneur and patron, mr. konstantin, i congratulate you , glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, congratulations, khrystyna, revived a little in the memory of our viewers and listeners, that letter , which, in particular, is in question, which quite clearly describes the visions of our partners regarding how we should qualitatively change, for that our country and its citizens it was comfortable to live inside, and we could claim further strong and stable relations with our partners. in your opinion, what will help ensure the independence and transparency of anti-corruption bodies, where our colleagues and partners always start, and what will improve the fight against corruption in ukraine? thank you, this is a very important question, i would like to go back a bit. and to say that in this

situation in which ukraine found itself today, namely in a situation when we ourselves could not even build an economy before the aggression of russia, which would accordingly, it would generate such incomes and such profits for the state, so that the state could receive its army in a combat-ready manner, in the plan, could support all its spheres of the economy, society, in accordance with the fact that it would be possible to actually, somehow, repel aggression of any which country can attack us, and definitely russia , because russia... was a potential aggressor for us and it didn't become one, that is, if we couldn't do it ourselves, and for some reason we are ready to support the army, to develop it to to develop all spheres of civil society in order to be a free european country, we engaged in a lot of theft there, we did not support

the army, we did not, forgive me, did not build the necessary, very important for us spheres of military... equipment, which today we have with an outstretched hand , unfortunately, we are begging from the west, from our partners, and it would be very good for all of us, for citizens, to have all this, to develop it as our national industrial potential, first of all, and most importantly, understanding what would we invested in ourselves, that is, we would not have the statistics of the united states today, when american military companies say that we increased revenues, we increased profits, thanks to the fact that we received additional orders from the pentagon, we received additional orders from other western customers europe, the united states, in order to meet the needs of ukraine, we would rather spend this money on our workers, on our taxes, on developing science, because without science it is impossible to build any cars or rocket

systems, or space systems, or aviation, that is, we did not do all this, i really do not give any credit for this to the incompetent managers who were at the time, at the head of those departments, well, and further above them, who simply did not embrace with this, they thought that all this was kind of stupid, there would be no aggression, there is no need to prepare, why, well, we have to go to barbecues, and that's all right, this is the situation when we came to the point that today we have what do we have, when so many people have died, then we must definitely just do everything that is necessary they want us, because please look at what is happening in the west, in the west today is the congress, the republicans are not voting for aid to ukraine, we, that is , it has been a month today without money at all, without equipment, without anything, look at the level of support that was from of the united states, they gave us packages all the time, when there was support, 2 billion dollars, a military package, 3 billion dollars, and today is the last time, which package did we receive with you, 150 million, khrystyna,

please tell me , a lot we will leave with you as an army, as a country that repels aggression today for 150 million dollars, certain political processes were also taking place in the united states at this moment, definitely, definitely, but look at what they are saying today, actually the republicans, they are saying that we have questions and complaints to the fact that ukraine does not fulfill the conditions that we actually, now all the time, show to ukraine and say: please fulfill them, if you want to be in the circle of developed, european democratic countries, civilized countries, unfortunately we do not perform, secondly, the situation, i don't want to... say only about the republicans, because actually we have political, political processes in the united states of america, because there is trump, who today, respectively, how do we make america great, how do we make america great again, he is playing into the situation when america does not need anything, he even recently stated that the country should probably leave the united states altogether, that is, it

shocked the whole world in some way to america, which was the founder of everything to leave nato, well this part of the populist campaign , which many politicians are actually leading in different countries of the world, look further now, what is happening in europe, europe today, when first of all it would be able to repel any aggression, any really western or eastern aggressor, because today we are talking about aggression from russia, it is very painful for us, many people have died, we are fighting back today, but look at what hungary is doing, hungary is also saying today, we will not give this, we will not give that, but if we say tomorrow , please, if you want some of your territories there, which you think were hungarian in their time, so, that is , annex, they will gladly annex them, look at orbán, i am sure that this is not the position of the entire hungarian people , but this is the position of some populist politicians, so khrystyna, returning to your question, what should we do, we

just need to, like 20 years ago and 15 years ago, just do everything the west wants us to do, we don't need to engage in prostitution , politically... prostitution, but you have to take and carry out, because the west does not want to make fun of ukraine in any way, does not want to somehow simply deal with the fact that the west will destroy ukraine, the west today supports ukraine, thanks to the west, today we remain a sovereign, independent state, and in fact, we can to make the ukrainian people a sovereign nation that exists today on the world map, and therefore we just have to say, if we want to europe, i want, we want to civilization, if we want, we want to live prosperously, we just should take and implement all this, unfortunately, we have not implemented it in the last 20 years, according to all the programs of the imf, the imf said, do it. vote for it, give it, and we always said , yes, no, yes, we have our own interests here, yes, we are that, yes, we are that, and that's it, and where are we, where are we in this situation today, if we

don't will do, it will only get worse, huh , and we understand why it is important for us to follow these recommendations, and we understand why they are important for our partners, but again we return to the idea that if these conditions are met it becomes easier for the ukrainians themselves. it is more comfortable, safer in one's own country, and i am interested, mr. kostyantyn, in your opinion, will these recommendations regarding reforms of the judicial system help with law and order in our country? they will definitely help if we are now through the community council, that is, through the community councils, huh. our civil society activists, so

the public council, people who today, it has a name, who today say that these are not corrupt, candidates for judges, candidates in the prosecutor's office, candidates for various higher councils of justice, if all these candidates pass, through this sieve that in fact the appropriate people get there, who must be paid, who must receive a good salary so that there is no temptation for them to receive some a bribe, then it will certainly make life easier for all ukrainians, ukrainians from the ordinary person , from to to the person who holds a relevant position in society, be it an elected position or some business position, independent of this situation, of course, if we are all that we will fulfill if we bring to the judiciary actually honest, transparent candidates who

will then become judges or inspectors of the supreme council of justice, or whatever, life will become easier for all ukrainians. thank you, with regard to corporate governance, some steps with the start of a large-scale invasion, some steps of our executive branch of government , well, a little bit destroyed our partners and were perceived , well, in fact, as an attack, just like an attack on this quite successful reform that took place in our country, the reform of the corporate management, when it came to supervisory boards and not only. mr. kostyantyn, what do you think needs to be changed in the field of corporate governance, specifically those companies that are state monopolies, in fact, you know, there is no need to invent lisapeda, there is no need to say anything that we are ukrainians here, for some reason we do not have

ten fingers on our hands, and six, and we, we are more like some non-earthlings, but some foreigners, we are the same people, we have our own culture, we have, excuse me, our own history, we have everything of our own, but the rules that we live under, all these diseases that we have, all that international health, international, and diseases, and rules, and eh, like the un statutes, to which all nations in the world that exist today live, and therefore in this situation, well, we do not need to tell us what we want in the sphere of public administration to introduce some of our own unique things, we need to do all the things that the west and the united states and western europe recommend to us already during the last 20 years, when i worked as a deputy, we always voted for exactly the demands of the international monetary fund to introduce a reform of the corporate management of state

monopolies , because without it the imf simply does not gave us money, did not approve precisely through these representatives to the board of directors of the imf, whether it was the united states, or the european community, the european union, they did not approve the assistance that we were all the time, that is, trying to get and which, this assistance was all the time for us we need to close all our holes in the budget or wherever, and therefore in this situation i would like to say that we need to finish this reform regarding the management of state monopolies at the level of the formation of supervisory boards, and then go the same way that everyone has gone eastern european states, and this will be the next demand, if we, unfortunately, being, if we are fools and do not do it ourselves, then we will be demanded by our partners, and... what they did next, they took, sold at least 5, 10, 15, 20% of the shares of all these companies after corporatization on any

exchanges, exchanges that are actually seen or considered to be somehow liquid, somehow civilized, be it the london stock exchange, the new york stock exchange, the french stock exchange, certainly not the moscow stock exchange stock exchange and not the hong kong stock exchange, today, because we are there we have a huge influence, we are the bridges of the aggressor or china, which today, unfortunately, looks at the whole situation of aggression with such closed eyes, does not give an appropriate interpretation of this aggression, as in fact all civilized countries gave such an interpretation, they directly said, because as we will have not only corporate supervisory boards, corporatized supervisory boards with independent members, but if we also have private shareholders for at least 10-15%, the state will still have all the control, but these private shareholders will demand reporting, which will be quarterly or semi-annually, and most importantly, they will not be able to prove, to allow such situations, when we say how it was in

kobolivo, we have with you a supervisory board, which was allegedly created there under some western experts, but at the same time, despite everything, this the supervisory board supposedly votes, i don't know whether it votes or not , there is an investigation to give him a bonus of 20 million dollars, i.e. 20 million dollars as a premium, no chairman, even of the largest oil and gas company, not that of eastern europe, but of western europe, received a bonus europe, i.e. british petroleum is the head of it did not receive, the total of the french company did not receive, there in the german company rv. did not receive and did not receive a polish eagle, and for some reason in ukraine , which is not the richest country in europe today, our chairman of the board received 20 million dollars or 10 million dollars, so this is all money that was simply taken from increasing tariffs and people who cannot pay even small tariffs , they have to pay big tariffs, the supervisory board in this situation with the western experts, with all the others

, failed, it could not make it so that she prevented this situation, when it's not even money, it's one part, because their money is taken from the poorest people, but it 's an image situation, well, look at our western partners who give us money, they say today, you want to get from us billions of euros, billions of dollars, but you yourself do such things, when a person who in our countries cannot do this, our government would resign, in your country you want us to take a million from our taxpayers euro, and you yourself pay 10 or 20 million dollars to a person who cannot get that at all, because there is no such practice, not even in europe, yes, it probably exists there in the united states, but in the united states, there it is all private companies, not public, there are boards of directors, they decide how much to pay the chairman of the board, because there is an apple company, and in the apple company the chairman of the board receives 200 million dollars, so no one is against this,

because he earns 100 billion a year for the company, but in our situation the company is at a loss or even when it is profitable , these profits consist of the fact that they raise tariffs, people cannot pay, but those who can , pay, the company became profitable, they took and paid the head 20 million, well, it is impossible, we cannot explain this to any of our donors either in the united states or in the european community, it is simply impossible in terms of image to prevent this from happening in the future, as i said, we must accept all these conditions and all these western recommendations and then move on, it would be better if we did it ourselves, we would made an ipo of these companies and would have placed them themselves their shares on the stock exchanges, at least by 15%, but if we do not do it ourselves, if we are incompetent or stupid, our partners will certainly point it out to us, and i would be proud, in fact, i would like us to do it ourselves, but only competent people can do it, unfortunately, we don't have many of them

today, thank you, mr. kostyantyn, for highlighting your thoughts, kostyantyn zhivvago