this is poland, where there is an unequivocal understanding of the threat of this war and support for ukraine, to have hungary, which, in principle, has the opposite position, slovakia can be either hungary or poland. slovakia was poland, and i will say this, it was first of all the government of eduard geger, who was unequivocal in supporting ukraine's position regarding this war, and we have robert fico, and here we need to explain some very important nuance, because you know, fico won these elections, because he took away the votes of the radical right such neo-nazi parties in slovakia, republic, there is a party of kotlebu, who did not enter the parliament, he won the election, yes with a new voter, there is about a third of the new voter, with whom he was able to work, to get support, this is the neo-nazi right, the radical parties of slovakia, and here... the specificity of the slovak

nationalism, where this scheme of slovak nationalism really is, it differs from, say , polish, or perhaps ukrainian nationalism, yes, because if the poles, they were looking for partners and allies in the past, yes, they were looking for partners allies against berlin, against moscow, they were found in paris, in london, in washington. when the slovaks were looking for allies in the past, they were looking for allies against... budapest, against vienna, against prague, and they found them in moscow and berlin. there is a very specific difference here, yes, well, these are historical frameworks. if you look specifically, regarding sociological polls, regarding the position of slovaks, slovak women before this war, starting from the very beginning of this war. the picture is such that we have some order, well, 20%, these are pro-putin people. that is, it is a pro-putin electorate, but

these are anti-systems, these are people like trump voters in the united states who are calling there, let 's go back to the white fundamentals there, yes, north america, the free world, we have a pro-putin electorate, pro-russian, because these are the historical framework of this slavic nationalism, about 47-46%, these are people who understand that russia is the aggressor and ukraine is the victim in this war, and simply the first person says that you should support the victim, yes, this is probably half of this, that is, the opinions of a slovak, a slovak, the biggest problem of slovak politics, it is these 30%, which are between these, this anti-system, somewhere around 20%, those 46-47, and here, you know, these people who do not have an opinion, these people who are really and not for...

interested so find out more, they make decisions on the basis of which emotional factors, and here you know, what context , well, the crisis was a pandemic, yes, inflation, energy crisis, so the socio-economic conditions really worsened, and you know all this, there is no longer a war here was the main theme of, let's say, this campaign, it was somewhere second, third, i would say yes, third, fourth the question, and the main thing is that matovych showed chaos, constant conflicts and so on , an alternative is needed, and the fizo worked, managed in such a way that he took a part of these right-wing people from that 20% for himself, he now needs the first days in the government, really to show that he will continue the policy that he said before the election, the election campaign, so there is such an ambiguous position here, but the real situation is that slovakia can really be...

relative to ukraine or poland or hungary, was poland, now it is more characteristic characteristics for this policy are similar to hungary, the hungarian approach to ukraine. mr. oleksandr, but since slovakia is a democratic country in one way or another, the governments, as well as the government of slovakia, no matter what they say, during the election campaigns, they still listen to the people, and if sociologists say, there are 45-50% in favor it cannot but affect ukraine, it must somehow squeeze the government and the government must pay attention to it, he cannot say, i don't care about half of the voters and i don't care what he says there, i will be around 20, i love them, and i don't like the rest , it wouldn't be like that, it happens in russia, it doesn't happen in europe , you are right, the position is correct, the assessment is correct, you know, this is a government with a very unstable majority.

for the majority, the slovak parliament needs to have 76 deputies, and this government has 79 deputies, and here you know , what else is the problem, that 10 this is the slovak national party, well, that's what this faction is called, well, there is one party member of this party, he is the chairman of the party andriy danko, who really, he is a complete russophile, so you can say, he is still of the past condence, he traveled to moscow and so on, well, this is a personal topic that we have analyzed the reasons for such a slovak russo russophilism, yes, well, the remaining nine deputies there are not representatives of the party, but simply people to whom he gave places on the list of candidates , maybe our voters have the opportunity to give preference to four candidates on this list, and they then go forward , and that is how they entered the parliament, and in principle

it is not clear here, yes, i will say that the majority is very unstable, three deputies who got sick, someone went somewhere, someone, what he didn't like it there, he wants to lobby for something, so on, there, let's see how this very unstable majority will work in principle and how long this government will last, right? and fice understands that he needs to discipline this government and he needs to, and because really, these are, well, slovak nationalists, so these views are close to these 20%, so he needs to work to show these voters what really is, because it depends on them, if they are not there, or there will be a conflict, then in principle his government falls, so here it is the problem, now you know, he needs to discipline this not very big crack, such an unstable majority of this parliament, these 79 deputies, we will see how he can do it, he can

do it, we will see, and since i am a journalist, mr. oleksandr, i am asking you about the past, how the story ended when a journalist and his wife were killed by some mafia , are there any traces or to italy, and then it turned out that it was the mountain itself, the government of slovakia, i started to follow, now i don't follow anymore, but they say that it is somehow affects politics as well, and they say that the new prime minister is somehow already there, at least nearby stood with these problems, what do you say, you know, i will say. they will only say about this, about the investigation, in principle, there is already a decision of the judges, in principle, there is, and also one person who ordered this murder has been convicted, and there is still an investigation of the orderer, the one who ordered,

ordered this killing, that is that is, two people have already been convicted, and also, well, this person , she is already there, it is clear that for 99%, this is this person, she is already...' is sitting for other crimes, so the research is going on in parallel, whether he, well, there it is already 99% clear that it will still happen there is a question of evidence and so on and so on, but he is already sitting , he has already been in prison for 20 years, that is, there is such a result, here is one thing, yes, to really finish this study of the reserve, it was a mafioso, mr. kochner, who really corrupted slovakian politics, i would like to remind you that in principle, you know, when fitzú spoke there about corruption in ukraine, now during the summit in brussels, it should be reminded that i do not think that he is the person who has the right to criticize some other country regarding the state of corruption, because 130 cases are currently under investigation

corruption, high-ranking officials of the slovak government, which were committed during the time when he was the prime minister, that is from the 12th to the 18th. yes, 40 cases have already been decided by the judges, people have been convicted, there are other forms of punishment, money is paid and so on, and there is still an investigation in 70 cases, but what exactly, i would say that the most bad news for slovak politics is will be primarily that fizo and his government will do everything to stop these studies, because indeed there was already such a moment two years ago... back when the prosecutor's office invited the parliament to extradite fitso as a member of the parliament, because there is immunity for the investigation of the prosecutor's office, and only one vote did not pass the extradition of fitso, for the investigation of the prosecutor's office, so that really

fitso is not the person who can criticize some other country about the stations , because such corruption as he developed in slovakia when he was the prime minister, yes, well, such... it is very difficult to find here in european countries, well, then, a very important issue is public trust in those legal proceedings, how people behave, they believe that our legal system is such that it convicts correctly, and the trial was properly held, it was transparent, anyone could come in from the street to listen, journalists sat, recorded the whole world, interviewed prosecutors in prosecutors, lawyers, well, this is a completely european approach, as far as the society is ready and it...' likes it european and he trusts the judicial system, regarding the decisions

of the courts, yes, there is a problem with the research, if the case has already reached the court, that's all, there already in principle, what will be the solution, needed evidence and so on, this is already a process, yes, well, there is more or less trust there, then the problem is the police, yes, because in principle the role of the police , together with the prosecutor, is very important for investigations, and here... there is a fear that in principle, there will be an intervention by the minister of internal affairs, in the investigation of these cases of corruption, yes, but if you are not the police together with the prosecutor's office, the prosecutor's office will not be able to bring the evidence to court and actually have a real charge, then there really is a problem, that is in principle, as already said, and this question you know, we have a structure of a special prosecutor's office, it's not just about the general prosecutor's office, but there is also a separate institution

, this is a special prosecutor's office, also a special court that investigates and deals with issues of corruption in politics, that is, in political structures in institutions, in addition to other subpoenas , this structure was created during the government of mykolaš dzurinde, and it is also very important, there is a fear that the new fitsevo government, he will be able to directly interfere in the affairs of this special prosecutor's office and the special court, which deals only with the corruption of high-ranking officials, yes, but the problem is that they can influence to make a problematic study, because they have reached the government to the police and can understandably change the legislation, well, i will say, they do not have a constitutional majority to... . radically changed the structure of the prosecutor's office, because there were already such voices, they said that

they do not need this special prosecutor's office, that it is not needed at all, and so on, but they do not have enough power in the parliament to be able to change something. thank you, thank you oleksandr duleba, political scientist, director of the slovak foreign policy association, i was very pleased, thank you again , i hope to see you again more than once. we are really very interested, as for the audience, i have a minute and a half to say something, we will then talk about the poor national minorities of the russian federation with the deputy, with the people 's representative of ukraine, mr. oleg dundda, but now i will say that you see, in slovakia it is quite similar on ukrainian territory, there are also special prosecutors' offices, special investigators, there is also corruption, and there is a struggle to this corruption was less, and there is a struggle ... for it to be more, and we see in the position of prime minister, a person who just

fanned, let's say this, this corruption, from the age of 12 to 18, when this very person also held the position of prime minister , there is a struggle, no no not everything is so beautiful, but what is the difference between slovakia and ukraine, for many years, in ukraine, everyone knew about corruption, but no one fought against it, well, except for the people. such as journalists, activists who simply shouted, there stole, there stole, now we see what shifts, maybe there are some deputies, some heads of courts, and some billionaires get there, well, let's see, if this really happens in the future, then ukraine will probably move from countries where there is corruption, but no one will be with this corruption. to countries where there is also corruption, but they fight against this corruption, because those who say that corruption

is almost impossible to overcome are really right, although it is also controversial here, there is sweden, estonia, finland, somehow they can, but for sure, all of europe is struggling in one way or another, somewhere less so, somewhere else, but there are no civilized countries that neglect the fight against corruption and leave this fight to journalists and activists , there are no such countries among civilized ones, you have to keep this in mind, if mr. oleg dunda is there, then i would be with him, i would be with talked to him good health, mr. oleg, oleg dunda, a member of the people's republic of ukraine, a member of the temporary investigative commission on developing the basic principles of state policy regarding interaction with the national movements of small and indigenous peoples of the russian federation. good health, mr. olezh, well the question is simple and complex at the same time, how much are these movements, i understand that they are

small, but at least. you can talk to the bearers of ideas and ask how many people will leave yakutia when putin is gone, when ukraine will defeat russia, when it will be left alone with its problems, this russia, that is, with sanctions and so on, and so on, how many people in yakutsk will come to the central square to support, well, let's say, i'm not even saying secession from russia, but under...' to get democracy in yakutia, so, well, during struggle for their independence, no one thinks about democracy at all, everyone thinks about their future sovereign state, and how they will get it is another question, you very interestingly mentioned yakutia, and in this case, yakutia is the most promising

from the point of view from the point of view of gaining its independence, in relation to and from the point of view of the economy, because yakutia - well, if you compare it, it is, for example, like the countries of the persian gulf, but there is no such, such and such a component from mendeleev's table, which would not be in yakutia, starting there from oil and concluding with precious metals and diamonds, etc., there is a lot there, and in principle, it is potentially a very, very wealthy and very, well, very wealthy country, well, like the country of persian isotokia in relation to... but the existing composition of the national is also quite interesting, because as of today, this is one of the few national republics of the russian empire, which on its territory, the national component, the national nationality makes up more than 50%, but if you compare it there with the buryats, for example, the buryats somewhere there make up approximately the buryats in the component

about 30%, in yakutia more than 50, and moreover, the majority of the people. most of the people who are related to the kuti nationality, they have a kind of not love, but sometimes even hatred for russian imperialism, for russian nationality, let's say it this way, another issue is that in general, there is not too much population in these territories and they do not have the opportunity to take up arms tomorrow and shoot down the aggressor, the occupier of one's territory, there really is no such thing, but in the event of such circumstances, when... the metropolis and moscow are not able to hold all the territories under its control, clear all territories from any resistance, yakutia will be one of the first to declare its independence. moreover, you will be surprised, but, well, from my point of view, because i have been working with them since the 21st year with various

representatives there, not only yakutia, but in general such so-called native, original, russian , although they have nothing to do with russia, for example, this is siberia or the urals, yekaterinburg, then there is also a desire, or a briber, by the way, present there is a great desire for independence, but it goes there under the slogans, it is enough to feed moscow, she has ripped us all off, i am sorry, and we have no desire to transfer money to you, what if we were independent from this moscow, without national signs there , there is no such thing there, of course, but this economic incentive is quite strong there, and in principle, they , like the yakuts, unlike the buryats or the tuvans, have great chances of obtaining their independence, and they will be the first to strive and talk about it , this one with about which we did not hear, or heard literally the other day, this

siberian battalion in the armed forces of ukraine, this is who enters there, i understand that you somehow understand who enters there, people, who can be seen there, and we do not want to see them , because i think that they are very secret, and no one should see them, because it would be better, i think that we will rejoice, rejoice, when we see not in the armed forces of ukraine, there somewhere near bakhmut or in deeika , and somewhere i apologize, well, at least in bryansk or in kurssk with their flags of national republics, which depose the local governor, or they promote him there, then we will be happy to applaud them with a full program, and even better, when the representatives, and there are representatives, by the way, of yakutia, he recently gave an interview, there are representatives there buryats, tuvins, there are representatives of the urals there, there are few, that is why the siberia battalion is not a separate one, there is a buryat or yakut battalion, and in order to form there, and as far as i know, this

battalion is related to the so-called ingermandia or ingri or st. petersburg, well after all, there are not many of them, they were formed for quite a long time, about a year, but still, i would say that this is training, and their future work should not be connected with the support of our... armed formations, armed forces, from the ssu, somewhere near evdeiko, after all, so that they formed and began to be, were the main driving force of these raids in the kursk, bryansk, bilhorsk regions, and if we succeed in such a capacity, they will eventually, after they will already learn and will hold their weapons well, taking them into account knowledge of the local, local landscape, local traditions, local people , what they will be for...' for example from mongolia or from other territories to this endless russian empire and will still do the right thing directly in yakutsk, directly in khabarovsk, directly

there in ufa and other territories, and yet the so-called actions will begin, as the russian revolution began there 120-140 years ago, which led to the actual collapse of the russian empire, and this should be their ultimate goal, not that they should to sit in the pits near avdeivka. but here's the question, mr. olezh, because i think it interests not only me, like you, where, where are they, how did they get on our territory, it's from prisoners who were taken prisoner by the ukrainians, it's from europe, who are somehow there traveled around, it is from belarus, you said correctly, from europe, from europe, from europe, they did not go, that is, they fled from russia to europe, they already came to europe from europe, but only to ukraine under the name of ukraine. a small part of them has been in europe for several years already until february 24, the so-called opposition, or people who are very

they have been struggling with their national consciousness there for a long time, and in fact they were squeezed out of the russian empire, but most of these people are those who left russia in the first months after february 24 and went to europe and still tried to somehow realize themselves and found such a stage . due to placement in the siberian battalion of the ssu, they went through a rather difficult path there, they were checked there, they waited there for months in warsaw in poland and until the time they were given such an opportunity to get directly to kyiv and then to the camps of the armed forces of ukraine, and it is interesting that you said that the economic factor will work faster for the disintegration of... russia than the national factor, i would ask that, but the national factors are still visible, you feel them, that out of 100 people there

, whether there are 50 or 10 people , eight say no, well, we have, we are rich, we have diamonds, gold, oil, gas, and two say, well, we must not forget the language either, we we must not forget the clothes, we must not forget the history and so on. and so on, as far as the eyes are concerned national, moments of national revival, do you feel them, or can you not feel them? mykola, it depends on the territory, if we take the regions of the north caucasus, there is such a thing directly there , or, for example, tatarstan or qatarstan, they are present there, who have religious, who have traditional, who have a language, it is there , for example, in tatarstan, there are a lot of people... the issue of their language drags on, that is, there are regions in which such factors, they are very invisible, and in fact are not a trigger before

the start of a protest, for example, there tuva or buryatia, they are still very much crowded, and the people who do take care of this language are taken care of directly by national factors, most of them are abroad, for example, in the united states or in europe, but no, but...' the main thing factor, well, i can, if we take examples, we can take the example of the time of the collapse of the soviet empire and remember such republics as kyrgyzstan, or kazakhstan, or tajikistan, where in the 1990s there were some national liberation movements, in azerbaijan, that's how they are were, in the baltic countries they were, well, then they were republics, in ukraine, their independence fell from above, and they tried to feel their national consciousness for the last two 20-30 years, and some of them felt, by the way, but for

it will take time, just like with the collapse of this russian empire, some part, already now... feels, as we have already said, some part will begin to realize when independence will fall from the sky, well, in each case differently, after all, russian empire, it is very interesting because it not only lives in different languages, in different religions, in different traditions, she, moreover, lives in different times, somewhere now feudalism is happening, somewhere european times, such as in kaliningrad, aka königberg, and somewhere moscow is there, ultra... modern 21st century, and somewhere very dark feudalism, such as, for example, chechnya, that is, absolutely different worlds that do not match with each other, they live different lives in general, so-called, respectively, and they will receive differently, and in a given language, but there is one the factor that unites them all, independently from what language they speak, regardless of who rules them, it is a matter of understanding that they have arranged

relations, there is a metropolis and there are colonies. colonies are all regions that do not belong to the moscow region, even st. petersburg, the same colony, in general, and they all have a presence, and i talked there with former, liberal russians who were involved in politics there 15 years ago, who come from siberia there, they agree that all of them from these regions of the colony are united by one thesis, one thesis: it is enough to feed moscow, they... the last question, language, you know, until recently in russia, if parents could determine the language, and accordingly schools were opened in national languages, now, as i understand it, putin has signed some new law, which greatly reduces the use of national languages, and

then the question arises, does this , my question is, it does, it increases the degree of possible national -liberation struggles, or vice versa, the buryats do not want to speak their language and they, on the contrary, are satisfied, well, conditional buryats, i say yes, we do not need this, well, as was the case in belarus until recently, yes, we don't need it belarusian, russian is enough for us, and we have a wonderful president lukashenko, and he is doing the right thing by banning this damn belarusian language, what? mykola, no matter how they press, the language is always preserved, ten people are enough for it to be preserved, we remember our times, when ukraine was actually a colony of the russian empire, and no matter how much pressure is put on the ukrainian language, it is still preserved, developed, as well as in buryat and so on, a lot of representatives of these nationalities are abroad, for example, circassians, buryats, tuvans, who

they are trying to preserve their language, their traditions, their... there is a relation to religion , because everyone has a different relation to it, and what we know for sure, we can within the russian empire, is that this issue of language is very confusing for nations like tatarstan and bashkatarstan, after all, it is already wealthy in the region, there is a large, large number of representatives of these nationalities, and they are very, very disturbed and very nervous about this attempt to suppress, mr. oleg, i'm sorry, but, but i have to pass the floor new oleg dunda, born of ukraine, a member of the temporary investigative commission on developing the basic principles of state policy regarding interaction with the national movements of small and indigenous peoples of the russian federation, was with us, and iryna koval will definitely be with us, who will tell you the latest information about what is happening in ukraine and in the world. thank you, mr. mykola, i will tell you all the details in a moment, and have a nice evening.

it's 8 p.m. in ukraine, for your attention a news broadcast on the espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers, and to the most important events. they were killed because of the refusal to give housing to the occupiers, in the city of volnovakha, donetsk region, a chechen soldier shot a family, the ninth died. people, including two children - reported ombudsman dmytro lubinets. it is known that gunshot wounds were found on the bodies of the victims. the head of the family apparently had a conflict with the chechens, who came on motorcycles.