[000:00:00;00] in the fifteenth year, would you like me to tell you what he proposed to you, what, what, what, the solution to the problem he proposed, two states for two nations, yes, uh, that sounds funny, that is, a state for ukrainian russians and a state for ukrainian ukrainians , this is roughly what he said, that the solution to the palestinian problem, two states for two peoples , well, that's one thing they got in the gas sector, and that it became middle eastern switzerland, it became middle eastern singapore, there were all the opportunities for this, and enterprises . who left the jews and the greenhouses, half of which fed half of europe with ecologically clean vegetables and the best beaches on the coast, a fully able-bodied population , which, if it were not ruled by bandits, could well be - safely, dear professor, i would like to return to the iranian nuclear program and to the possibility of engaging in certain forms of nuclear terrorism against the state of israel, we understand that this is a question of an existential confrontation, it is not

just that, you know, the two sides have claims against each other, no, this is an existential confrontation, and we understand that there will be forces in the arab world that will be ready to take terrible unconventional actions, that's right, it's all exactly like that, we've been asking for many years to tell everyone who is willing to listen, that the arab-israeli and palestinian-israeli conflict, and the conflict between israel and iran is not a conflict over territory, it is not a territorial conflict, it is an existential conflict, the question is who are you? who will remain alive, the questions of the series, especially when the subjects are connected, which are motivated by an absolutely radical, messianic ideology, in response to the question: be rational, this will also affect you, a nuclear war will also mean your end, but you will die, so to speak, and everything, yes, leaves quite a bit of room for compromise

, agree, one way or another, iran has not yet intervened in the conflict , openly, traditionally all these years it has preferred to act through its proxies, through satellites, it is primarily the strongest, it is the south-lebanese hezbollah, and it is not necessary to perceive it as just another one thing terrorist movement, this is really the party that governs lebanon, lebanon is a country that is being held hostage in fisbala, and a situation in which the president , who is not there, yes, the prime minister, who is, the officials who are there in beirut, they shout with a shout and say: "save us from them, you should not interfere, because this will be the end of lebanon, and this will be the end of lebanon, and in the old days israel was forced, the second lebanese, the first lebanese, forced to fight only with the military wing of the radical movements, it was believed that lebanon somehow does not control the situation, we are not at war with lebanon, but today we will have to fight with lebanon , i hate to say this, but if they

interfere, then a country like lebanon will be of interest only to archaeologists, they understand this, what's the matter, because it will be a question for the survival of the country, israel, i understand, as you understand, the same situation today with hezbollah, but with hamas in the south, but they have already finished their game, they apparently left on heavy suicidal step, and although they managed to surprise the israelis, and although there were losses. it was not for nothing that it reminded the israelis of the days of the holocaust, but it is clear that israel is tens of times stronger than hamas and the end of this organization is in the near future , they counted, and the iranians, apparently, counted on the fact that israel would react sluggishly, as always, and get stuck in these battles, a ground

operation will begin very quickly, and there will be catacombs, multi-level defense, high losses, and every life is priceless for the israelis, there will be conversations about the need to end this business, let's negotiate, as always, hizballah intervenes here, it turns out that the record has changed, so to speak, the old concept exploded in our hands, the idea of ​​peaceful coexistence, crisis management, the so-called red lines, yes, it did not justify itself, then there are all these peace-loving requests and proposals. he is under the oppression of the occupation, why not explain the occupation to me, we left there to the last centimeter, 18 years ago, we supply products, water, everything else, yes, electricity, we take people for treatment, we give them jobs, one way or another, so today this paradigm has changed completely, and

there is no question of liquidation of this fundamentalist radical islamist regime, so while it is holding back a little, the war is going on in the north, it is going, yes, but it is not full-scale war, it must be said that our prime minister supports the minister of defense, because his proposal was not to proceed with the active, that is, to destroy the firing points and infiltrators, terrorists from there, but to move to the proactive phase, that is, to strike at mainly the concentration of the combat wing of hamas, hezbollah, excuse me, in the centers of training and launch of missiles, and they have tens of times more of them than hamas, look, mr. professor, and if we, we are talking about a much wider, i don’t know, geopolitical background of this current situation, one might even feel that hamas was used as a kind of bait or as a kind of trigger, yes , they provoked the situation, they killed a lot of innocent, civilian israelis and not

only israelis, knowing that very a clear concrete reaction, and after that, perhaps the general purpose of such , well, really terrible, macabre genocidal action was to provoke the rise of... sentiments in the middle east, we understand that there are states that trade in oil, which are transiters, of very important projects, in particular it is about an alternative to the chinese transit corridor, so they would like to stir up the middle east for that, well, we understand, so after that completely different levels of relations begin in the same energy oil market and not only there. i think that such a hypothesis has the right to exist, there are several people who support it, but this would also mean that hizballah would have to intervene immediately, and iran would have to be a part, become a part of this project.

israel showed patience, and now the picture looks like this: israel currently has some, as we say in hebrew, merhashim, that is, as we say, room for maneuver, for freedom of action, so it has like... time, но не очень много, но имеет, yes, for that to deal with the problem in the south, iran, a question arises, this is related to the hypothesis that you presented, it is quite logical, in my opinion, iran now apparently supports hezbollah, because something went wrong, it did not go exactly as they they calculated that israel did not give in to the provocation, to this bait, but is preparing such a full-scale destruction, so carefully. slav-slav, what is called, step by step, of the entire local infrastructure. further, the attempt to raise the arab peace against israel, it generally turned out to be unsuccessful. this is a meeting of arabs

leaders, with mr. guterres, to whom we have separate questions, as you understand, yes, we also have a lot of questions about him in ukraine. that's it, i don't think i have to explain to the ukrainians what i mean, so that's it. and there we heard accusations against israel , immediate demands to stop accusations of genocide, they didn't talk about genocide, they talked about collective punishment, that it is necessary to distinguish between those involved and those who are not involved, and all that stuff, but under the table they said, don't dare to do it what we advise, just don't think about it, they understand perfectly well, they must say what interested people hear their people, raised by generations in antimy. in anti-semitism, yes, well, they themselves perfectly understand that this is a war like theirs, the containment of israel, the filling of this soil , this area, by iran and its allies, china on the one hand with its interests, russia on

the other with its interests , and the countries of this same group and movement, the countries of the iranian bloc from the yemeni houthis to the assad regime in syria and hezbollah, the north in lebanon and hamas to the south plus plus iraq of all kinds, which is essentially a province of iran today, that's all they understand more or less yes they understand these arab leaders yes what if damage is inflicted on israel israel will retreat then the days of their regimes arab regimes moderately pro-western, they are soscheny iran , in turn, while black day for them is a situation when israel will finally agree with the united states and receive a green light for the liquidation of the iranian nuclear program,

a key story about the united states and president joseph biden's willingness to take concrete, tough military steps, we understand the specifics of israel, that there is no so-called strategy. eternal depth of defense, israel is really a small state, the size is a little smaller than the kyiv region, so we understand that they would expect to intimidate the state of israel, to intimidate... jerusalem with the same iranian ballistic program in iran , it is extremely well developed and we understand that they would hint in such a way that they could supply and so on to the militants, and so on the scenario unfolded, but the military response of the united states and the two aircraft carrier groups that were in the mediterranean sea moved smoothly to the coast. biden, will he make an important decision if, for example, they apply a not... different plan scenario against israel. 100%

yes. it is a deterrent factor for iran and it is a deterrent factor for israel, among other things. this means that if you do not let us solve the problems ourselves, then stand next to us. all these previous years, the answer was evasive. and today the answer was, yes, of course, look here two aviagnostic groups, here is our isminets shooting down the missiles that the houthis fired in your direction on orders from iran, whether they were directed at... us military bases in iraq or in the south of israel, as we generally believe, yes, but nevertheless, the destroyer of the american fleet shot them down on the way during the approach, by the way, another one, a drone shot down the attack of saudi arabia, this is to the question, yes, in general, in this way, there is some factor, guys, here you are solve your problems, we are close to you, this is still local conflict let's leave it as it is for now, it can develop

into a regional one, but no more, we don't need this third world war in its full extent, because right here under this bench, as you understand, china will begin to realize its interests in southeast asia, chinese ships have already arrived in kresit bay, again to the question of your hypothesis about oil, in general , the united states believes that let's distribute the responsibilities for now, we will supply you with as many weapons as you need. yes before of all ammunition, do not worry about the ukrainians, they have their own quota, so to speak, it will not go anywhere, we now have a program for the modernization of the army of the united states, all that our allies in eastern europe will receive now, so get busy, so to speak, the fulfillment of those tasks that are recognized as being in our common interests, eh, well, according to some rumors , according to rumors, okay , the leave of the soldiers of the american army was canceled, because it is possible that they will have to relocate to the middle

east, one way or another, of course, what to fight the americans will not be for israel, they have never fought for israel, on the territory of israel, we do not need it, well, this is quite solid support and demands that can be taken into account, yes, so to speak, it is completely within the framework of allied relations , and correct your strategic vision, i think this is the maximum and the best thing that we all have, all of us, yes, i mean you too. yes, so to speak, could get in this situation. a certain threat of such a plan creates certain opportunities. i think you remember there was such a ukrainian soviet socialist magazine perets, so very often there, you know, the so-called jewish zionists were happily depicted together with the people of bandera, so under the umbrella of uncle sam, the so-called, well, that is such a flawed soviet thinking, but we understand that it is necessary to use and carry out some element of synergy, and the united states did not... try to connect

the situation near israel and the russian-ukrainian war. with your permission, i will first address the first part of your remark, which is not a question, about establishing a fact some, the relationship between jerusalem and kyiv at the beginning, in the first months after, or in the first hour after the beginning of the russian aggression against ukraine, after february 24 last year, they were - their factor, so to speak, their dynamics were determined by two factors, the first factor - it is that israel was on the sidelines of the set of guarantees that ukraine received, signed the budapest protocol, the guarantees that were assumed by the countries that acted at that time, let's say, entities that ensured security ukraine, russia was among them, this is understandable, but it was also a certain indicator that the countries of the west, and above all the united states and nato, they had to

provide ukraine in exchange for giving up nuclear weapons, provide all the necessary materials for to ensure its national security, and something in this sense was being done, initially it was assumed that israel was not part of this picture, but israel at the same time proposed that israel had its own problems, to put it mildly, yes, that's it including the appearance of russia as our border country in contrast to iran, because russian troops are in syria, now there are fewer of them there, but military space forces, special forces, etc., etc., etc., divisions of spheres of influence between iran, russia, turkey, and the united states there, did not leave much room for israel to maneuver, except to find an understanding with moscow that we are not going to overthrow the assad regime, take care of him yourself, if you are interested in bandits, then for god's sake, but we are not ready to put up with by two

things with the appearance of a new iranian front on the territory of syria against us, and the transformation of syria into a transport corridor for weapons that change the state of affairs on the battlefield, that is, the same... and other iranian proxies, moscow at that moment agreed to this as if как была вот такая вот - some understanding , yes, this situation began to change even before the russian invasion, it appeared again in the phraseology of russian officials, in society, in some specific actions, interpretations of these actions, for example, when the air defense of syria shot down a russian plane and suddenly they accused israel of covering themselves with a russian plane, of course, the f-16 covered with this slow motion, well, you understand that when it comes to propaganda, logic is not, let's say, significant or or a welcome guest, but nevertheless, the situation that is happening in general today, it motivated or stimulated israel to stick to the old understanding, as soon

as they understand it now, the ukrainians are also confident, they understand that a front against that is really unfolding here the same the enemy, with whom ukraine is de facto at war with russia, and now, as we understand, also de facto with iran, and israel is at war with iran and its proxy, which de facto today is supported by russia, so everything is clear, who on what side, the second thing is that the hybrid postmodernist military conflict that we have today does not necessarily involve direct clashes with your opponents, yes, today no, but tomorrow yes, i have a fear that russia would be interested in maximum escalation. this is it yes, antina, but, you know, what we learned while living in the middle east, here we are again living, restoring our national hearth for the last 100 years, that this is what will happen tomorrow, we will talk tomorrow, today we are talking about survival, right , that's the same thing, one of the problems why it was possible to allow

the creation of this terrible terrorist viper in the gas sector . here we will destroy them again, mess, post-apocalypse, that the russian word that is mess, yes, which is used in hebrew, disorder, yes, and gangs, as you know, as in hollywood films, gangs of surviving bandits roam around the ruins there, it will not be their problem, it will be our problem, but now the situation we see has changed, what will happen to the gas sector tomorrow, our european allies tell us, let's survive until tomorrow, as long as we need to survive, we will destroy the bandits, tomorrow we will figure it out, it would be good for you, guys, in addition to useful advice, also join solving the problem. second, the moment that is connected with israeli-ukrainian relations, this is a factor, this is a real fact, and what will happen next day, in the previous years, at the time, ukraine was considering in kyiv

the idea of ​​entering into relations with israel that it once had then turkey, in the pre-erdogan period. nowadays, azerbaijan, that is, israel, as a rule , rarely supplies ready-made weapons , we are a small country, we have a small industry, we have brains so to speak, so to speak, we export, yes, brain products, israeli technologies, for example, the famous ammunition for the famous iron dome, they are very little produced in israel , they are produced in the usa, the magic wand is the whole multi-level air defense system that israel has, from the destruction of ballistic missiles, continental and to the windbreaker that knocks down bullets and anti-tank shells , yes installed on the tank, now there is also an iron beam, which is like an iron dome, only many times cheaper, one volley of an iron dome is about 20 to 50,000 dollars, here is a salvo of this laser system, which does the same thing, even more efficiently

, it is about 80 cents, but that is a completely different story, it is also mainly produced in the usa, that is why the americans immediately say, do not worry, we will supply the ammunition , yes yes? these are our ammunition, our developed ones, they are simply produced in america, and a model of partnership with our , so to speak, allies, and for this you need to be an ally of israel in the full sense of the word, to vote in the un as, well, let's say as if we would like, yes, to understand us more, how, accordingly, and expect more understanding from us, yes, unfortunately, mr. professor, i have to end our conversation, i want to remind our tv viewers that now a professor of zf, a professor of political science , was working for them from jerusalem sciences of bar ilan university. there are discounts on cough syrup aflobin plus 25% at podorozhnyk, ban and

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piontkovskyi, a political scientist based in washington. glory to ukraine, andriy andriyovych, i congratulate you, heroes, glory, good day. well, unfortunately, it did not happen as expected, yes, the congress of the united states - a strategic institution, got a speaker, a trumpist, what are the possible consequences, in particular, for ukraine and for the allocation of the necessary financial and other assistance to us. well, let's not exaggerate the role of the speaker, it is important in procedural matters and so on, but it is not he who can they will delay, but he will not change the fundamental things that 3/4 of the members of the house of representatives are the last to support financial aid in ukraine, the entire composition is 100% democrats, and approximately at least half, half of the republicans. well, he has already formulated his condition, i agree. vote for aid to ukraine under two conditions, if there will be control over aid , but this is already a song that has been sung to us for 2 years by all

putin's agents, control, control, so that they do not loot, well, the pentagon is not looted, let that be all that it is controlled, well, the truth is that a number of popular ukrainian bloggers are helping, who are promoting the fact that ukraine is generally the most corrupt country in the world, and so on, the second condition is that president biden must... outline the clear goals of this assistance, well, i think that for this will not be delayed by biden, especially since in his historic speech, he spoke about the fact that assistance is given to ukraine in order for it to be able to be a russian aggressor from the entire territory, so i think, yes, there will be some procedural difficulties, but the fundamental question is том что что 3/4 of the congress house of representatives supports help, he will not go anywhere , well, on the other hand, we are also adults. if trumpist jordan received the necessary number of votes in congress, accordingly, there may be additional troubles, in particular, when it

comes to the issue of revision and amounts. providing us with appropriate assistance, we understand that the congress is an extremely important story, on the other hand, we are also aware that president biden linked the aid cases to ukraine, israel and taiwan, that is, it is being built a certain auxiliary strategy for those three states, as if they were separated by certain, i don’t know, seas and continents, but in fact it is about one containment of the so-called axis or pyramid of evil, and it becomes even more... it becomes clear, that is the value of biden’s voluminous historical speech, he painted a picture of the world, today, that is a war, a war of the power of good , against the power of absolute evil, against this evil, iran, russia and china, and iran wants to destroy israel, russia wants to destroy

ukraine, and china wants to destroy taiwan, targets criminal states. they are the same, i would draw attention to the fact that in this case, it was generally announced and devoted to events, of course, the middle east of israel, but ukraine was mentioned there almost more often than israel, well, starting from the first phrase, biden’s greek, i i think that the most important thing was three words, he started putin and hamas, this is the couple putin and hamas, it was a refrain throughout the speech, and i would also like to choose a very important moment, he said that we will support our critical partner and in this context translated into russian means our main main allies israel and ukraine, this is the new status of ukraine, but we remember that israel has the so-called united states of america.

ukraine has been striving for this state for a long time, and in fact, in fact, biden provided it with this political phenomenon and the help that was announced in ukraine financially and topically, by removing the last restrictions, the last taboos that the americans, unfortunately, the supply of weapons to themselves, this ethings, these are f16 fighters, lived a wonderful life, as we all remember, the presentation of etoksov on the battlefield in ukraine, our fighters worked out, like at the berdyansk military airport, andriyovych, but if we really go back to the strategy of president biden, we understand that, well, in some ways he repeats certain narratives of president roosevelt, at a time when the united states was still were not going to get involved or enter the second world war, president roosevelt sympathized and helped the same winston churchill and the people of great britain, but he assured that they would not enter until pearl

harbor happened, so we understand that now pearl the state of israel can become a harbor, and we understand how powerful forces are involved in the anti-israeli, as if invisible coalition in the kremlin, such anti-semitic hysterics, i don’t know if they even existed, well, this is monstrous anti-semitism that simply overwhelmed russian platforms. in the speeches of leaders, network space, media, he is demonstrative, he demonstratively shows the nature of this state and the rage that, they, they have the same picture of the world as baidin, they also see it as two fronts of one war, and ukraine, which they want to conquer, and israel does not see how they confirmed the position of biden, we started with our problems in the congress, i now see much more serious tests in the near future, it will be in the coming days, actually in israel, i recently wrote

article, it is quite widely known in the ukrainian media, the west can and must win the fourth world war, my main thesis was that the united states, which biden did very well, sent two military units there, even after that and the flagship of the fleet is already in fact, in fact , america is participating in this war, the american fleet in the red sea is protecting israel, and so are the hussites, in syria and iraq, iran's proxies are attacking america. bases, here i am writing in this article that the only solution to the issue now is to seize the initiative for the allies in the middle east, the united states, and israel should not wait for the second attack, an attack by hazbua, when the israeli army goes deeper into these gas catacombs, this is calculated strategy, that's