tv [untitled] October 30, 2023 2:00am-2:31am EET
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eight years ago, but with changes and unexploded projectiles, the ttam sappers are still fighting. 28 years, and how long will ukraine manage and what can we do to make it faster than others? who, how and how much will be able to earn from demining in ukraine, and can i or you? whose experience is suitable for us, and what should we forget and the most important thing is that every day, every minute we risk in the literal sense, and you and i, even if we do not get to the 6 million people who live among mines and unexploded ammunition. to ask those who get on the lists to live.
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to areas of increased mine danger, we go to these regions. seven hours on fresh asphalt, densely populated, cities and villages, but the closer to the destination, the fewer people. oh, finally, yes, there is, you hold, i hold, what are the times? the same is true. you saw this stele in all the photos on social networks after the liberation of the right bank of the kherson region. at that time, the armed forces of ukraine conquered more than 3,000 km2. every meter of the city, forest or field is ours to pay the highest price, health and life. the same every meter, they are filled with explosives. so with kherson - it is, by the way, the only regional center that... the russians still
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captured during a full-scale invasion. the city is less than 100 km from crimea. the occupiers overcome this distance in a day, from there they go to mykolayiv, but the zsu pushes them back to the village of posad-pokrovskoe, the outskirts of the kherson region. for soldiers, this is zero kilometer. for the locals, a peaceful life was boarded up or burned in half. we lived rejoiced and did not think that we were happy, something else we always needed to do, and now the russian federation came and they made a choice that we should not live, rejoice, that we do not have the right to live better in them. march 22nd, up to half a thousand arrivals every day, everything that the occupiers have at hand seems to be flying here, that is, a whistle, a clap,
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a whistle, and twenty fellow villagers are shivering in dark, cold cellars, these are all who are left of more than 2,000 people here. the settlement was almost 97% destroyed. the occupying troops of the russian federation used cluster munitions massively here. and it is very difficult to find them. and according to the very principle , this ammunition is such that if it did not explode, it is in self-destruction mode, after its arrival, the cluster munition can detonate at any time and from any movement, it is used both for hitting the target during shelling and for remote detonation, because a third of the extremely low-quality russian ones do not explode during hostilities and remains a deadly weapon for civilians.
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debris pierces up to half a meter of asphalt, for those who are nearby, it is sudden death, in order to protect the locals, the sappers at their own peril and risk sweep the entire village, and behind it those where the russians were standing, mines are everywhere, under and over roofs, fences, trees and bushes, even in cemeteries, all the graves of ato soldiers were detonated, houses were detonated, doghouses, these pillars were blown up, and then detonated so that it would not be possible to approach so that either we or the electricians were blown up, or civilians, otherwise , how to explain the grenade in the washing machine, the children’s big one on the stretcher, or there was another case when there, they went down into the cellar and there, well, this conservation, the twist, opens, there is a mine, it blows up, all the people who are on this shore are enemies for them, it's good, we hear from you kherson, shelling from mortars and hail every 10 minutes, and everything that flies here, this is a job
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for sappers, but there is no way to demine the coastal districts. we cannot get closer than 20 km to the river. our cars are like a treat for them, let's say so. they aim at us as well, that is why the locals have been without public services since november itself, when the russians retreated and destroyed everything by themselves, on our street, on mine, there has been no light since november 5, wires, poles, substations, everything is lying , no, on the central street of gaz in there are no people either, you drive and enter as if in some country of the apocalypse. oksana khumenko comes home to antonivka. is it difficult once a week to look at the native streets, at the crops, when in the place of her oasis, the yellow tops and deep cracked earth from the heat, the gardens were watered from the river, but now even that is no longer possible, the neighbor went out to look at
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the watering and near shore, near the river saw an anti-personnel mine, that is, it is the one that he saw, how many more were brought there, june 2023, the russians will destroy... dambukhovskaya ges. big the water floods both banks of the kherson region, washes away tons of explosives from the munitions depots of the occupiers' trenches, which should have prevented the landing of the ukrainian landing party on the left bank. the dnipro is teeming with russian mines, and after the explosion of kakhovskaya ges, explosives are drifting here. on the shores of odesa. some kind of driftwood. mines of soviet production in the 60s and 70s, they also use drifting mines. a drifting
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mine floats downstream and threatens shipping. given that the current in the black sea moves counter-clockwise. arrows, accordingly, they can throw them somewhere, for example, a little further east , in the calculation that the current will take them to the ocha-ochakov coast, for example, the mykolayiv region, and then the odesa region, but also the current will carry them further to the water area of romania, bulgaria, the bosphorus, the republic of turkey, yes, even as far as georgia, they threw 400 mines into the water area, this was the correspondence of the director... the internal port of sochi, it reached us, the main goal is the blockade of the ports, and also to destroy everything human, because locals now have nowhere to live, how to grow vegetables, fish and swim, it is now not possible to go to the forests
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, even to those where there was no war, and where the front line is hundreds of kilometers away, to the front line, but not to the enemy, but here the forests feed the locals, and not only , they collect cranberries, blueberries, lingonberries, blackberries, they collect, they survive , but you yourself used to go for berries before, you went, and you went yesterday too, look at the hands, yes, but where are you going now, because i know that they are mined, and we are around house, we don't go there, there are signs for me, so we don't go there, around berezovo, in the rivne region, circular defense, because the enemy in fact fences, you and i are just on the edge of ukraine, belarus at a distance of not even a few... is it a hundred meters from here? that is why the region is fixing dugouts, pulling kilometers of barbed wire, 374 million hryvnias for defense on scrapers along the communal lines, they were divided between
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six border otg. and we understand that all 229 km of our border with the republic of belarus is a potential danger. but besides that, we understand. that about 80% are non-progressive lisibot, the main four directions are clear to us, and along the entire border deployed military forces, and it is very important, this is the preparation of fortifications , engineering structures, and all points of defense, especially , this is the line of mines, that is, we mine here, meter by meter, the military lays traps in the ground, for batteries, for tanks. and this detonator i am talking about is mounted here, the mine itself is buried in the level, but with this case , in the ground level, its load is from 120 to 150 kg, but since it is all old, the case also loses its capacity, it can break from smaller to larger, and such
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there are thousands here, each one is put on the map in order to protect the lives of all their own and civilians, because their gardens are also being mined, and we are right on the border with... belarus, and since they dug a ditch there, it is already a little difficult to drive in, but they showed , showed where they can drive, where they can't. well, because there are a lot of mines there, but you can go into this forest, but the forests without mines are half-empty winds , say the collectors of decororos, you won’t make money here, as before, before the great war, well, they used to collect 50 buffalo each, others up to 100 kg, for how much time, well, in a day, well, for example, in an hour there maybe five or six, that’s what you row, and with a combine, and these combs are yours, yes, and how much can you do in a day for 100 km, well, we earned 400 for three, we paid, we wrote a statement to the belarusians,
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i will pay 130 dollars each, this is for the season, from july to mid-november, fedor and his two older children pedaled to belarus every day, because at home 12 younger ones are waiting, it was only possible to ride there by bicycle, a person had the right to leave at 7 o'clock in the morning, they will collect berries and bring them to ukraine by 10 o'clock p.m. and sell here, before the full-scale invasion, the region harvested 3,000 tons of blueberries alone, earning up to a billion hryvnias per season. the bereziv community had an additional 1,500 hryvnias from there, but will this money be available after the victory, because it is not a fact that they are demining and it is not a fact that it is fast, we are going to the generals with this question. should we expect such massive demining after the victory, or will the border be mined anyway? everything will depend on those... conditions of the situation that will develop after the end of the war, of course
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, where there will be no need for mining territory, demining will be carried out and this land will be handed over to the owners, which is directly related to the state border of ukraine, then in my opinion, there should still be demining and engineering barriers there for some time. and how long is a certain time, a year, five, 10, or maybe half a century? and whether the old buildings will not rot and be detonated by hand, whether the clear lines of minefields will not move to the neighboring gardens. the enemy densely covered the entire front line with mines, fields, plantings, dirt roads, trenches; they do not take away their bodies, on the contrary, they fill the machine guns and pockets of the fallen with tnt. you pick up a store, and your arms, legs, and head start to tear off, and you don't want it anymore. there is nothing to pick up, traps are everywhere - says the scout saint. when you approach your
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stretcher to this grenade, your hands are shaking, you just can't think straight, you're so stressed and it's emotionally draining. this was the task i had, i removed these seven grenades, i removed two of them for 2.5 hours, and it was simple for me, well, i don’t know, like an eternity, because a little movement is wrong, something. and you can get mad at the air, and your brothers will also suffer. in the southern direction , 45 mines are charged per square kilometer. every meter is explosive. our mines are cleared even at night, aerial reconnaissance helps sappers from the sky. the sun sets, the metal heats up and for a few more hours it is displayed on the thermal imager as some kind of warm object. we observe this and note it in special maps. this method saves precious hours, because in military demining they clear exclusively a path for infantry and equipment, everything
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beyond the safe corridor will be deserted until humanitarian demining, including dirt roads. the story is the same in the front-line and de-occupied territories as well, because operational demining continues there, completely free of charge. they are engaged in operational demining. services that clean up explosives in de-occupied regions, the village of ruska lozova, kharkiv region , liberated from the occupiers in may 2022. that is, if a person saw a civilian suspicious object, we come, remove it, we at least we always go around the yard area, look around, but when it comes down to it... check the garden for me, and behind the garden there is a garden, and behind the garden there is a plot for tomatoes,
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unfortunately, no more, because we still have to go around hundreds and hundreds kilometers of railways, roads, bridges, water and gas pipelines, electricity pylons, which stretch and artillery and mortar duels were fought through the fields, literally in three, here is this distant landing that you see in the background, the russians were there, they constantly for two months, when surrounded kharkiv, shot at ours, so i have to... look under legs, each meter, and now i walk exclusively on the path laid out in front of me by the state security service. these safe... corridors are the maximum that sappers check for more in operational demining there is no time. when the first deoccupation took place, citizens' appeals reached about 200 calls per day, but we did not have time, there were no units at that time, we still carry out these appeals, more than
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24,000 calls per year with a single message, mined, divided... between with 3,000 sappers of the armed forces, the national police, and the state special service of transport and the state emergency service of ukraine, but in snow, rain, people and frost, they do not clear mines, we have a total of 5-6 months of the year there, which are closed units, we can go with these forces for hundreds of thousands more years, 757 years, that much was calculated for ukraine by world analysts, and do you know how many countries cleared their lands after... the soldiers completely, none, why? politics, money, difficult terrain, there are no specialists, or there are, but not enough, today in ukraine, too, no one knows exactly how many specialists are needed, because in zaporizhzhia, 5 mines per square meter, in kharkiv oblast, three or one, and again , fields and residential areas, the sea and children's playgrounds must be secured, and this is very different. the state's
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current plan is to demine 80% of potentially mineable territories in 10 years, and that is a long time, scientists explain. during such a period , ukraine will have demographic problems, economic problems, socio-political problems, because life on non-exchangeable territories will be impossible. we have already calculated how much we lose in money, billions of dollars, and people, millions of those who left zaporizhzhia, donetsk region, luhansk region, kyiv region, chernihiv region, sumy region, kharkiv region, mykolaiv region and kherson region, scattered in neighboring countries or regions, because
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there is nowhere to return yet. but there are also those who take their fear and risk to. destroyed cities and villages. 800 locals, together with their children, are trying to rebuild their lives in the destroyed posad-pokrovsky. the national security service demined it by 90%. the remaining 10 are someone's life. they stole mines and put them on the road at night, and you blew them up on armored personnel carriers. so how did you stop him from doing something? local thieves mines that were planted by the russians and planted by the russians. yes, at night on the road along which they were moving. go around a mine for a routine matter. and how do you sow the fields among the shells, or clear the mines yourself? tied a hammer here on the end and hit this mine, it exploded, i became famous in half of the village. fame is so dangerous to death, and children who imitate adults see all this. our research shows that they understand that
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landmines can be dangerous, but what they don't understand is what will happen? if i pick her up now. mine safety rules do not approach, do not touch. the call of adults. calling 101 is dangerous, that is why we have come across cases when a new projectile took an old projectile out of the ground, that is, a large one from the second world war. this is what those that have been lying in the ground for almost 80 years look like, they are rusted, but they can still be detonated, that is, the mines that our military is laying on the border with belarus now will not budge in ten years, unless there are
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natural cataclysms, septopoves, or , until the land is plowed, and what... the soil will raise them by a centimeter. like these, buried in the ground, there are hundreds or even thousands of red-hot pieces of weapons from the russian military industry. the warheads sticking out from the ground or from the bark of trees are the remains of the base of the occupiers in the virpinsky forests in the kyiv region. sappers worked here everywhere, but this is a very polluted area, a lot of explosives were detonated here. because 1,500 invaders brought here tons of ammunition. we felt full security, in vain, ours searched for this headquarters, and when they found it, everything was on fire, from weapons to stolen televisions, the fire destroyed many rosary soldiers, here... it was hell for the invaders, this place is one of, one of the achievements of ukraine, on the kyiv front, our special services began to develop a plan
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to get here, and when everything was ready, peyraktar hit here, now these eruptions on the site of russian warehouses, and not exploded shells actually under us, and so in every forest where battles were fought. but for now, the sappers get iron only here, because irpin has its own special unit. the city and ukolytsi are demined by former law enforcement officers and soldiers, there is no other place like this in ukraine. if it is not it probably came true, maybe the stop would still be deserted. of private houses and 39 high-rise buildings were destroyed, another thousand were damaged. and in order to build new walls, you must first clear the ruins from the surprises of the invaders. if you wait for our emergency services, it will be a year or two, they have a lot of other tasks
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, their own demining service, it will be ten times faster, and if every community creates such a unit, the guys will undergo training, then you will immediately have this unit that will help you rebuild the community faster. city sappers cost hryvnias per year. and this is security and additional jobs. the average salary of a civilian firefighter is uah 30,000. girls and boys acquired a new profession in a month in khmelnytskyi region. you have checked everything, there is no signal, there are no stretch marks. at the same time , 75 cadets are studying in kam'inka podilskyi. these are yesterday's lawyers, accountants, teachers, drivers, pr people. they don't test math or english here. none of them had held a metal detector in their hands before. she worked as a marketer. could no longer sit still, volunteer, or something had to be done directly by hand, 14 training centers produce civilian sappers every
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month, approximately 15 specialists per course, ruslan vityuk was in the war twice, after severe injuries and contusion, he was demobilized, he has a real goal to see himself in civilian life and it's just...' not to be on edge during what is happening in the state, humanitarian demining, it does not involve such a heavy load as on the front, so i can do this work, because unlike the public services, which need to quickly check kilometers of critical infrastructure and hundreds of homes, civilian sappers advance on their knees, an average of one meter per day , and work in places where the shells of the occupiers no longer reach. there are no urgent standards in humanitarian demining, our standard is one, it is the quality of the task,
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i.e. one hundred percent clearance of the territory from mines and explosive objects, and in no case not to lose a person. ideally, in the fields, forests, rivers and lakes after the sappers there will not be even a hint of metal, because every centimeter will be interrupted along and deep, but demining by hand is the most expensive, because it takes the longest, the price is from three and ten dollars per square meter. we take an average of five, well, the arithmetic is very simple, multiply 17,400 km by 5 million, and you have more trillion dollars in the usa, even if they are involved in 10 years, no one will master them physically, it is necessary... well, i don't know, 150-2000 sappers, and this is roughly the population of ternopil, but a person will not go everywhere, as abandoned fields in the north, where
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the grass is my height, in thick plantings on south, foreign remote control machines will speed up the work, when there are enough of them, the emergency services have 15 of them, at least 45 are needed . it is these machines that are needed. in almost every region that was occupied, it literally depends on the landscape, there are canals, there are vegetable gardens, there are construction debris left in place after the defeat, this machine does almost the main job, it moves trees, bushes, grass, blocks of soil and everything below them at a depth of 20 cm. ammunition is destroyed precisely in this area of the machine, under this shaft, and the machine thanks to this, it remains intact. there are also explosions, then it takes months to repair heavy equipment , because there are no necessary spare parts in ukraine, so the partner countries will build production and repair shops in
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us, when probably not... quickly, but here ours are tinkering and testing their machines, they are in eight times cheaper than imported ones. we can also save on metal detectors, here are ukrainian ones, the price is 800 dollars per piece, there is also a discount for the military. foreign ones with the same characteristics will be four or even five times more expensive, they are heavy and do not transform. ours, for 15 km, can withstand up to 10 hours of continuous work, which are the only ones in the world that can be controlled with a smartphone. within 10 minutes, 15, i can even teach you, the application is very simple, intuitive, has a minimum of functions. in the program that was created for demining with only three buttons, we created our own map of minefields. sappers will be able to mark the points where they found explosive objects, leave a photo and description there on this map, exchange between units, and this is again operational efficiency.
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which state structures lack, therefore government officials will collect ideas and suggestions from all developers. we will stimulate such manufacturers primarily due to the fact that we have 579 credit programs that can be used. when you buy in ukraine, 40% of the cost of the product is returned to the budget in the form of taxes and fees. it is obvious that if we finance the army through tax revenues and export revenues, it is always... more profitable to buy ukrainian. we need technologies that will speed up the inspection of land, water bodies, and buildings in order to understand where there is real danger and which square meters and even kilometers can be given to people for use. in humanitarian demining, this is the first stage, it is called a non-technical survey, explains the master of industrial training. the community submits an application to the center of gross profit activity, an organization
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that has certification. arrives at an area that was allegedly contaminated, min ids fence off this area, inspect it from afar, ask the locals, and who and what saw, and if this is a field and the farmer says, and i don’t know, maybe there is something there, but i don’t in the know, well this is just indirect evidence, the non-technical examination group needs to find direct evidence, with drones, it would be much easier and faster. on this training ground, projectiles and mines are visible, but in order to inspect, for example , hectares of fields using the same principle, experts will spend weeks, so the state is testing agricultural drones with magnetometers, even though they are not designed to search for mines. the kyiv school of economics calculated that a non-technical survey of a hectare is $6, the search for explosives is $300, and to
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clear the same hectare, another 30,000 is needed dollars, not only ukrainian farmers will pay for it. from april next year, ukraine will open the demining market. for 2024, the government will allocate uah 2 billion. this should be enough to cover 2,000 hectares of irrigation, which is almost half of what they want to secure in the next four years. for this money , demining operators will compete in prozoro tenders. the agrarian must come to the auction, put up the area, the operators of counter-exchange activity must come to this auction, they must offer, make an offer on the price, compete with each other, and the agrarian must to accept the final price, which is the lowest, and we as the state will compensate, right now we are consulting together with farmers and operators, which is a better
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percentage. there must be compensation, only certified mine action operators will be admitted to the auctions, we have 17 of them, another 26 are at the stage of inspections. we can see what lies in the ground, buried there up to a meter, for example, on this field there are 100 mines of different classes, for example, i think we will find 70, the 30 that will remain here is a danger, to re-examine the lost time, but what if to search not for metal, but for explosives, translate... the method of analog photography is proposed by scientists who, on the basis of the sevastopol university of nuclear energy, found chemical weapons in the black sea in 2004, zinc tubs that were once sunk by the ussr authorities, explain the special lens of the camera or a scout on a drone sees tnt in real time, in water, land and even concrete, 12 such models are being developed, similar non-metal-amine carriers are being prepared for sappers.
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