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[000:00:00;00] conflicts, they want to hold such a meeting at the level of leaders, and there is a will for it - they said according to the results of the meeting in malta, and the place, time and agenda have yet to be determined, as you know, ukraine has ambitions for this global peaceful the summit was held by the end of this year, and also the ukrainian minister of foreign affairs, commenting on this meeting, noted that it destroyed two myths, the first is about the decline of attention to ukraine against the background of the events in the middle east, and the second is about the loss. .. the alleged loss of ukraine's support of the so-called global half of the day. today, at the daily briefing of the european commission, i will clarify how here, what conclusions were drawn after the meeting in malta and how they assessed the fact that the actual representative of china was absent. thank you, zoryana stepanenko , for such a summary of what was happening in malta, and we also decided to find out in the president's office what their impressions are, why this meeting, this summit is important, why, and whether it is important
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at all, to what extent. china's critical non-participation in this meeting, i spoke the day before with the adviser to the head of the office of the president of ukraine, daria zarivna, i suggest you listen to how influential these meetings are, how much plans, steps and everything were heard, how much the victory of ukraine and the power of ukraine, today it really depends on the fact that the partners with whom you spoke in malta, they will go to a meeting in ukraine, i really like it. it's amazing to watch the dynamics, i was at every meeting and inside the process of meetings with ambassadors at the level, well inside the country, yes, and i directly felt very strong optimism when i left today from the last there were still bilateral meetings, yes within the framework of the meeting in malta, i want to say that we clearly have a very positive dynamic, this is, firstly, secondly, the fact that, in principle, at this time we managed
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to gather 66 countries and international organizations, themselves excellent you understand that in principle this is already a very good signal, and the third thing is that we talked about the creation of an international coalition to return ukrainian children illegally deported by the russian federation, this is this proposal, it came from the representative of canada and all countries were very involved, i.e. this is the one, well in principle, the problem and tragedy of illegally deported by russia... ukrainian children is something that does not leave any country indifferent . in principle, it is happening, well, at such a moderate speed, yes, of course, i would like it to happen much faster, but definitely, even the fact that for the first time at this meeting the statement of the co-chairs was accepted, which is very
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encouraging and sounded, including about the fact that everyone will continue to take all the steps to prepare the founding summit at the level of the leaders, well, you know, honestly, overall , i'm honest, i don't really like to radiate any unnecessary optimism there, but i can say that it was a really very constructive meeting and a very grateful, taking sides, this time we really had such a very expanded composition of the team, the delegation was headed by andriy yarmak, we also had representatives of the government. of the verkhovna rada, representatives, of course, of the team of the ministry of foreign affairs, the team of the office the president, and this time, again, in addition to what we presented, the work of each international working group on each of the points, and they were really very substantive, well, unfortunately, we don't have time to go through them with you right now
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in detail on each item, but in principle, on the website of the president's office, there is a short description of several of the points of the plan for each of the items, that is, you can have such a general vision, well, make an understanding, you can, i will clarify for you, you said about that that russia kidnapped ukrainian children, about theirs return, and one more point is the exchange of prisoners, was it about the exchange of all for all , and about the return of ukrainian children, are there really prospects for how to achieve this, well, the international coalition for the return of ukrainian children, yes, it is already sounds like, well, seriously, regarding the exchange of everyone for everyone, well, look, here you have to understand the logic of what is happening within the framework of the meeting of national security advisers, this is a slightly different story, that is , we have 10 points of the formula, and under each of these points we we paint, expand to of actual substantive practical actions, how it should be implemented in practice, this is ours, this is our initiative, this is the formula of president zelensky, this is the ukrainian formula, but a peaceful plan, it will be joint,
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and this is the key idea, so our task is to unite everyone, all the countries, and the countries of the western partners there, and the countries of the global rooster, so that it was a joint plan, so that it was not just there, yes... only a ukrainian initiative, and that is why every international working group includes representatives of countries and that is why they presented yes representatives of the ukrainian team, but all that they presented is not what worked, we worked there at home, in kyiv, yes, that is, it was work, because each group includes a number of countries, and each group has a certain country that is the leader in this track, that is, which one would , well, not the one that presides, but i... well, takes the initiative, and also, of course, we work, we work to ensure that in every international working the group for each item necessarily included the countries of the global rooster, this is also a very important point of principle, and therefore
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you see, the exchange of all for all, well, if we are talking about, as a part of, precisely the plan in the humanitarian direction, then this is one story, if we are talking about some specific, specific thing that can be there. to take place there in the near future is, well, it’s a little bit wrong, ugh, that is, the dates were not tentatively determined there, it’s not about that, if we talk about the absence of a representative from china, how much is this moment for ukraine, let’s say, dramatically, which was not representative, this means that the chinese side is currently not ready to participate in these there are initiative groups, and somewhere he can act as a conditional headman in this group in order to prepare something there or investigate with other partners, and find some ways. the resolution of these issues, the return of ukrainian children, for example, well, look, we received an official explanation from china, as to why they were unable to participate specifically in this meeting in malta,
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but the chinese ambassador in kyiv, he directly , he takes part in these meetings at the level of ambassadors, he knows everything, he has full information about what is happening there, he took part in a meeting at the coordination headquarters on the treatment of prisoners of war, he took the floor there, he probably voiced his thoughts and positions there, so i would say that they do not take part in this at all, it would be incorrect, as far as the effect from this, because we can talk about a peace plan , about ending the war, about steps to end the war, but if russia continues to shoot, and will continue to fill the army, and there, then in principle, we understand that nothing will stop, are there any steps, something like that formula, how to stop russia, how to force it to sit down at the negotiating table, i don’t know, whether to simply lay down arms or something else, it depends on what you put in the word effect, that’s what effect is for you, well, concrete pressure, for example,
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sanctions, yes , here sanctions in this area can still be made, yes, where there are few sanctions, how can we press economically, perhaps so that russia could not receive any, i don’t know, well, that is, some such practical things, well regarding the same sanctions. here is one of the points that we presented yesterday, today, this is a humanitarian direction, and yes, there is a strengthening of sanctions in relation to russia , in relation to official persons, yes, who are involved in the illegal deportation, in the abduction of ukrainian children, so of course, there are on every point, of course there are very practical steps, well, some of them, probably, there is no need to voice it now, yes, because it is still strategic work, in general, it is clear that the diplomatic direction, it must go hand in hand with the struggle on the battlefield, and it is obvious that these are such things, which, well, they move each by in its direction at its own speed, but they
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are happening in parallel, this is the freedom of the mornings, and we will talk about what is happening in dagestan. the airport in makhachkala should open on the night of october 31, reports rosaviatsia, the airport was closed the night before due to anti-jewish pogroms. which began against the background of the war between hamas and israel, a crowd of people stormed the territory of mehachkala airport, where a plane from tel aviv landed. they checked the passports of those leaving the airport to identify people who had flown in from of israel, and then broke into the territory of the terminal and the runway, surrounded the plane and tried to get inside through the wing. people shouted anti-semitic slogans and even tried to overturn a police car. some men
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had... flags of palestine, due to the situation at the airport in dagestan, they blocked the makhachkala-kaspijsk highway, and riots broke out on the territory of the airport. security forces detained those who tried to get on the plane. a fire siren and shots rang out at the airport. rioters threw stones at the red guards. the ministry of health of dagestan reported about 20 people injured in these clashes, two in extremely serious condition. among the injured are, in particular, security forces. because of these clashes, the makhachkala airport was closed. rosaviatsia reported that some flights were diverted to other cities, but people who had already arrived were blocked in the airport building for more than 5 hours. 762
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flight number 762 dubai makhachkala, we have been sitting on the plane for more than three hours. thank you, of course, we arrived 40 minutes early, but due to the fact that there is an angry crowd, which cannot be handled by the national guard, neither the russian army, nor some alpha, and the president of dagestan, we are still sitting on the plane and only water is served to us. the children are crying, we are hungry, it is getting very bad, there are no pills, there is no doctor on board, neither among the passengers nor among the crew. at 10:00 p.m. kyiv time, the russian state media , with reference to the russian air force, said that the rioters had been pushed out of the airport, but according to telegram channel novosti astra and the base, most of the people who stormed the airport left the airport around first night, and small groups of people still remained in place. the investigative committee of russia announced that they initiated criminal proceedings due to mass disturbances, telegramka. baza reported this morning that 59
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people were detained. regarding the passengers of the flight from tel aviv, the russian pro-war telegram channel ridovka wrote that they probably left the airport on buses. even in the evening, the public published a video of how rioters broke into one of these buses, which included parents with children who had returned from treatment in israel. on ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyi reacted to the events in dagestan. he wrote on his page in the x social network. that the events in makhachkala are part of the mass culture of hatred against other peoples spread in russia, promoted by state television, pundits and authorities. over the past year, the russian foreign minister has indulged in a number of anti-semitic statements, and the russian president has also used anti-semitic insults. for russian propagandists on official television, the rhetoric of hatred is commonplace in fact, even the current escalation in the middle east has caused anti-semitic statements by russian ideologues. russian anti-semitism and not...' towards other nations are systemic, deeply rooted, hatred is what prompts
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the aggression of terror, we must work together to oppose hatred. i would like to note that the russian leadership has not yet responded to the situation in dagestan, and the appeals to the so -called protesters were written by representatives of the regional authorities. the head of dagestan, serhiy milkov, said that although dagestanis sympathize with the palestinians, the fact that happening at the airport is a violation of the law. but this morning after the deadline. upon his new return from moscow, melikov stated that the events in makhachkala are external attempts to destabilize the situation in the region and that behind the people, that the people were controlled from ukraine, these words of melikov are conveyed by the russian state media. the head of dagestan advised the participants of the pogroms to wash away their shame by going to war against ukraine. earlier, tetyana moskalkova, russia's commissioner for human rights, spoke about destabilization attempts in the context of pogroms at the makhachkala airport. israel
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expects that the russian authorities will protect israeli citizens and all jews on the territory of russia, and will act decisively against the rebels, as israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu said in response to the clashes at the makhachkala airport, the times reports of israel. meanwhile , israel itself began the second phase of the war against hamas, the country's prime minister also announced this. the israel defense forces has expanded its ground operation in the gaza strip. reuters reports that the russian army is carrying out brutal air and artillery strikes in the north strips of gas. reuters also publishes night footage of israeli vehicles entering the city of jenin on the west bank of the jordan river, while palestinians throw stones at them. in total, over the past three weeks since the escalation of fighting between israel and hamas , 1,400 people have been killed, and 239 remain hostages, the israeli authorities reported. meanwhile, palestinian media, according to reuters. they say that
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800 people died in the gas strip. oleksandr demchenko, an international analyst on issues of global and information security, joined us ether i congratulate you. good morning. i want to start with the situation in israel, in your opinion, has the country given up on the ground operation, in such a priority version of it. how do you think hamas will act? look, i think so. the special operation is on the ground, it will take place, despite certain difficulties in the negotiations between the military wing of israel and the political wing, in the person of netanyahu, i think that , after all, they are waiting for negotiations regarding the hostages, probably the american generals who are currently in the territory of israel , offer a certain plan, this plan is not to conditionally advance slowly, as israel is currently doing, but at the expense of airstrikes and
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raids deep into the gaza strip, in principle to eliminate representatives of the terrorist wing of hamas, military, and possibly even... and further political, therefore i think that the ground operation will still take place, preparations are being made for it, you should understand certain points : first, it is the problem of hostages, who need to be freed somehow and further negotiations with qatar, on the territory of which the key headquarters of hamas operate, are needed, second the reason is the weather conditions, it is quite difficult for aircraft to fly, the third reason is the possibility that several more fronts have opened, we can see it now in lebanon and syria is conditionally preparing, also iran is sending fighters from yemen and from the territory of afghanistan to fight against israel as well, we see the preparations of iran, and another, the fourth reason, one of the key ones is that the us is preparing to confront iran directly, with its
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proxies, because us troops, us armored vehicles, us aircraft carrier groups and aircraft are also on their way more and more to the territory of israel, this is also a very important reason, that is why both israel and the usa are preparing for a confrontation and a ground operation will take place. in your opinion, that is, you said that these raids would not be possible, tzahal, yes, if we talk about preparing for such a large-scale confrontation, when do you think it might happen, and is it still here, we know that the west, concerned about the conflict in the middle east, so that it is not large-scale, yes, will it be possible to avoid ... large-scale, will it be possible to achieve such of low intensity, well, as military experts say, and without such a global involvement, there is even a possibility of a confrontation between iran and the usa, and that somehow everything will be resolved between tzahal and hamas, it will not succeed, it will not succeed, because from the beginning the war, which was organized on territories of the gas sector, these
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gases - it was a war not against israel, but against the usa, just a few days ago, yesterday it appeared in the information space, the west. including in ukraine, here i am literally reading what one of the leaders of hamas, khaled mashal, said to the egyptian tv channel, he said the following that russia won from the fact that hamas diverted the attention of the us from ukraine, and then he added that in general, china is also very happy and that it will carry out appropriate similar actions on the territory of taiwan. hamas is playing along with russia and beijing and i will tell you more, representatives of mossata, this was published on our platform, stated that russian military intelligence participated in providing hamas with finances, intelligence data, arranging closed communication between iran ,
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hamas and hezbollah, and sent there as well weapons, so it's a big story, it's a story that russia and china will benefit from , distracting the us from ukraine and taiwan, respectively, and of course iran, which will now do everything it can to unite, is not united around itself previously the arab world, provoking it into confrontation with the united states. moscow, tehran, and beijing all need one thing: that the united states withdraw from the middle east, and that the countries of the middle east no longer support, in general, on a large scale, the countries where muslims live, the countries of the arab world no longer supported the united states, this is a war against the united states, not against israel. against israel alone, what are the chances of achieving such goals that the us would withdraw from the middle east? i think that they are already losing, despite the fact that we see provocations , indeed, and that there is a certain complexity in the relations between egypt, jordan, saudi arabia, the arab emirates with
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the americans, and i think that tehran, moscow will lose and beijing, because they didn't expect that the us would immediately... instantly strengthen israel so much and whatnot europe will stand up for the americans once again. at the same time, they also did not expect that israel, which really slept through this attack, would be so mobilized now and that the government would unite. they did everything they could during the last five, six months to destabilize the political situation inside israel. not without the help, of course, of israeli politicians, who , well... frankly lost their minds, lost their common sense and began to do inexplicably what things instead of preparing for war, which was advised to them the military cabinet and representatives of various special services and but nevertheless, there is a government of national unity, the radicals within this government now do not occupy leading positions and therefore, in principle, now the situation is
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completely opposite. there is one more point, we see that now both moscow and beijing and tehran also have to do something and respond in some way, that is, there must now be a move on the part of iran and on the part of those forces that support it, on the territory of lebanon, hezbollah. is ready for war, but the lebanese authorities and the lebanese people are not ready for this war, to enter, this is also a very big problem, that is, hezbollah can start, but some measures will begin on the territory of lebanon, in the end , the following must be said, the americans have been preparing for this confrontation for several months, because they have strengthened their lebanese embassy in beirut, this is also an important point, so it may be a surprise for americans. and it was, but in principle they understood that something could happen, so they prepared very hard, so in general the americans are ready to respond, i think
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they will win in this confrontation, here you know, the question that interests me is why ukraine still cannot call hamas a terrorist organization, at least the military wing of this structure, when the united states, britain, the european union, japan and canada have long recognized this organization as a terrorist officially, but we have, and we should also note that president zelensky is definitely in his element here. speaking and by the way, here one was not without the other, what happened in dagestan, makhachkala, the airport, so interesting, they met a plane from tel aviv, and here also by the way, recalling zelensky, we know that he also condemned this story , that it happened there in general, this, in general, this is such a global confrontation in the middle east, which manifests itself all over the world at various rallies there, it was affected in this way by the russian republics, about what does such a reaction show? i will tell you that this is very similar to the specification of the russian special services , it is very similar to the events of 1988 in
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sumgayit, when the kgb of the ussr, the ussr arranged a confrontation between armenia and azerbaijan, directed a crowd of people, azerbaijanis against against the armenians, there were provocateurs inside this crowd, in 1988, they were walking, they were recorded on camera, they were walking along the corresponding specific points, they reached specific pogroms, the same is happening now, look at the picture, a little from a different angle, it means that it is clear that there were provocateurs and people in the crowd who were capable of resisting the russian national guard, the russian ammonites by force, then we see that the organizers knew exactly where, when the plane would arrive from tel aviv and where it would be directed, to which additional lane in in the case of blocking the airport, then how does it work... siiloviks, the police in russia, the police who allowed their cars to be overturned and people were looking for this one, the nato was looking for people
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of jewish origin there, omon who arrived an hour later than planned and did nothing together with the russian guard , the authority of governor melikov, which acted at its own discretion, to act at its own discretion, such an order can only be given by putin or people close to the kremlin, and the people who sit in the kremlin, this is the first story, the second, they all happen not only in makhachkala, look, that's russian propaganda, and then the russian special services did during the last week. russian propaganda pumped anti-semitism into the russian population through all the tv channels available to them. the russian special services carried out measures in the territory of karachay-cherkessia, in the territory of chechnya, in the territory of dagestan, i think that there will also be appropriate, appropriate actions of provocation, which i think signals, as vatashki, the leaders of the soviet union signaled to the americans, the west, that now the jews are
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his hostages and now what is his word, from what will happen to the jews in the territory of the russian federation will depend on his actions. moreover, so that you understand, now in the territory of the north caucasus, information somehow appears in the public space, it is very surprising where the local rabbis live. completely with their data, who these people are, where these people live, what kind of families they have, what kind of families they have, what kind of families they have and so on, that is, we see with you a provocation and this situation in makhachkali is just another round conducted by the russian special services. alexander, but it is interesting that here there is no ukrainian trace, so to speak, in quotation marks, i say that it was not possible, because already in this, in this situation, makhachkala is accused of ukrainians, perhaps some kind of plan, and this, this again. which shows that what kind of game is being played here, it shows that they have to blame someone, they blame ukraine in order to prevent ukraine and israel
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from getting closer, they blame ukraine in order to, in principle. and there was a corresponding reaction in the usa, in particular, from the radical trumpist wing, which is very much supported by israel and now in in principle is very ambiguous about ukraine, and this is specifically done in order to generally, let's say, weaken support for ukraine from all corners of the world, in particular to reduce support for ukraine and among those european states that support israel, so this is quite an interesting game, i will tell you this, inside russia it was also used to replace governor melikov with a person of the kovalchuks, for example, oligarchs close to putin. therefore, in fact, ukraine is of no use at all here, it is the russian special services, it is the benefit of the russian special services and people who finance them, but in general you need to understand one thing for yourself: what is happening in the territory of the north caucasus, it will continue, it will all spread to
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the territory of the russian federation, which is gradually transforming. in the anti-semitic soviet union version 2.0 and this, if we talk about the fact that this is all done there specifically, for what , again, it is then there to the kremlin, so that such anti-semitic sentiments, that is, it is really behind the goal, there is such a goal, and for the antisemitic implications to reach such a peak of sentiment, three moments, three moments, the first is really blackmailing the west and israel, this is the first story , because there are a lot of jews living in the territory of the north caucasus, in the territory of... in general, all of russia, and who now do not really want to go to israel, because there war. the second reason is opposition to turkey. erdogan, you remember, a few days ago, two days ago , said at a pro-palestinian rally in istanbul that now turkey will protect muslims in bosnia, libya, on the territory of karabakh and on the territory of the caucasus, that is, in all
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those points where there is a presence of the russian federations where putin is present. and his troops, and putin understands that turkey is strengthening in the caucasus, that it is strengthening in central asia, that it can strengthen in the territory of russia, this is the caucasus, this is the volga, this is the territory of siberia, where the turkic population also lives , therefore, he responds in this way to turkey and strengthens his outposts, on the territory of chechnya, on the territory of dagestan, on the territory. other formations, where there is no turkic population in the majority, this is the second story, and the third story is an internal kremlin story, this is a confrontation, well, conditionally, who is milikov, this is a person supported by shoigu, shoigu is currently negotiating with the chinese, the kovalchuks are playing against shoigu , this is such an internal-kremlin story in general, this is when one clan takes advantage of the situation, tries to shake the position of another clan , here are three arguments for what
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is happening in russia now, why in makhachkala. such a benefit oleksandr, i thank you for joining, indeed, there are many questions and various comments in the comments about what is happening there, ukrainians follow this is why it is interesting that the russian statements did not do without the ukrainian trace in quotation marks here, well, we will follow what else the top leadership of the russian federation might say about these events. oleksandr demchenko, an analyst of international, international issues of global and information security , was a guest of our broadcast. i will remind our viewers that we are here on weekdays from 9:00 a.m. on youtube, on the radio liberty channel, as well as on the air of the tv channel, join, comment, subscribe, so as not to miss important streams, and be sure to find my radio svoboda in all social networks where it is convenient for you, be informed throughout the day, my name is kateryna nekrecha, i and the entire svoboda ranok team, we wish you a peaceful day, see you
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soon. greetings, it's 10 o'clock on the clock, which means that it's news time on espresso, kateryna shirokpoyas is working with you. during the past 24 hours, the armed forces of ukraine advanced near bakhmut behind the railway track, the resource informs. in particular, near the village of andriivka, which is south of bakhmut, despite the fact that the enemy is the last for several days he has been trying to counterattack in andriivka and klishchiivka districts in order to regain lost positions. at night, the rashists launched 12 shahed missiles and two kh-59 guided air missiles over ukraine. our pppo forces successfully knocked down all

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