[000:00:00;00] that kimchin is asleep and sees how these damned imperialists are preparing an external intervention in kindr and they are really preparing for war, so the question is about the amount of weapons that the dprk will be able to supply to the russian federation, the russian federation from its side, and what it can offer the dprk in the field of military-technical cooperation, it is most likely some kind of space technologies in the field of outer space, kayinder is already this year trying, trying, but still will not launch his. a space spy satellite, so most likely the russian federation can to provide certain technologies, but not to share nuclear weapons, this is a very, very unlikely scenario, so there are certain risks of cooperation, for ukraine, they are again, i am not a military expert, but as far as i understand, the weapons that north korea has, it will not significantly change the situation at the front in favor of the russian federation, there is still more risk for regional

states, in particular for south korea and japan, for which the dprk poses an existential threat, of course, ms. alina, thank you very much for participating in the program, alina hrytsenko, the main consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, we talked with her about china and the influence it has on many geopolitical processes in the world, now we are switching to the middle east and oleksandr bulin, an expert on the middle east , is already in direct contact with me , mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine. congratulations to the heroes slava. mr. oleksandr, explain to me, there is information that the ground operation of tzahal, the israel defense forces in the gaza strip, will last even six months. despite the such intense shelling, not combat operations, but shelling that is currently being carried out by the israel defense forces, and considering that the territory of the gaza strip is roughly

the territory of ki why half a year? well, everything is quite simple, because firstly , there are 2.5 million people living in gaza, who have a very bad attitude towards israel for many reasons, starting there since the first slave of the israeli war of 46-48 years, and secondly, hamas built in gazia, there is a huge infrastructure, everyone has seen this so-called, so-called metro, gasi, which is actually, well, no, not a metro. and the tunnels which have been built by hamas in order to ensure their firepower, there are even tunnels on which rails are laid, through which carts with weapons, with ammunition and so on can travel, so, with such a large population, with such enormous resources , which hamas has, and

no one expects a quick and victorious war, not even in the israeli government. well, this is bad, of course, because it will, well, as far as i understand, a lot of human and technical resources will be spent, and most likely there will be many deaths, but let's move on, here you already mentioned hamas, hamas was in moscow, this is the only country, i mean russia, where representatives of hamas came, they were nowhere else, can we talk about what russia openly showed in this way, russia openly showed the world, that it supports hamas. and not israel, despite the fact that earlier putin, well , we can say, had such a rather good relationship with the prime minister of israel , benjamin netanyahu. from one point of view , you can say so, from another, you are really right that putin stayed here, well, in the negative, because it would be in the interests of russia to maintain the status quo in the middle east, which existed until october 7, when russia supports syria, has close

ties. with iran, including the war in ukraine, and including, russia has good relations with israel and personal very good relations between president putin and netanyahu. now, when russia has to choose a side , it turns out that she, she decided that it is more promising to go for such a small cooperation with iran in this matter, in order to continue and further cooperation in the defense sector, buy iranian drones to use them in the war against ukraine and so on. in general, it is likely that russia will try to use these meetings in the future, now hamas, recently , a few days ago, a few weeks ago, putin met with the head of the palestinian national authority in the west

bank, chairman fatah boumazen, so, it seems that russia will try to use these meetings in order to present himself as a mediator and use these connections with fatah on the west bank with the gas sector, with which negotiations are currently underway and , at least until recently, good relations with israel in order to try to be, yes, a mediator in this conflict and try to score some political points in this region. mr. oleksandr, you mentioned iran, but tell me, please, are the threats that have recently been coming from representatives of the iranian authorities, these are just threats, will iran be ready at some point, and even. will he be able to join in supporting hamas? well, firstly, iran, well, de facto already supports hamas, at least with weapons and finances, so in any case it has already joined this war.

second, iran's direct entry into this conflict is currently highly unlikely. iran does not have a border with israel, so it is not clear how to divert the troops. even if you can say. that iran could use its expeditionary military group in syria and strike israel from the north, from the same dutch heights, the effect of surprise is already lost, if it was iran, the same hezbollah wanted to actively enter war, it had to be done, at the beginning of october, together with hamas, and strike at once from many sides, now, when in israel, there is a draft for the army, yes, they mobilized there from 350,000 reservists, when there is already a huge israeli group in the north of the country, the longer it takes, the less likely

it is that iran will enter this war directly, so for now these threats are just to show that here we are supporting the other side, not you and to expose ourselves to those who.. .supports hamas in a good light, but no action, active action, yet you don't have to wait, and the last question for you, mr. oleksandr, please tell me, for now, as far as i understand, this is only a local conflict, given the protests, the threats coming from different parts of the world, is there any threat the fact that this local conflict can turn into something bigger is and depends to a large extent on how well the modern regimes in egypt and jordan will be able to hold out, in which, well, there are autocracies, in egypt the military has been ruling since

the 13th year, in jordan king, and in which good relations with israel for several decades, at least at the top, in the event that we see the protests taking place, in the event that we see that, iran, and the leaders of hamas are calling for the citizens of jordan to stand up against their rulers, yes, they overthrew them and started a war, a general arab war against israel , then in this case it could turn into something more than a simple local conflict in one small gas sector, but again, there are no prerequisites for the demonstrations in these countries won and the regimes in them were overthrown, not yet, they are still of a sufficiently massive nature, but not so critical that they cannot be suppressed, of course, thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, for participating in the program, thank you for your professional comments and for clarifying

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the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. victories and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics, serhii rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this. people who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and are creating the future now, the main and interesting thing in the program. from monday to friday at 8:00 p.m. repeat at 12:10 a.m. the world during the war program is back on the air on tv channel uso, i continue to talk with my guests about the most important things, and my next guest is, i apologize, volodymyr tsibulko, political scientist, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, congratulations, gentlemen.

well, let's talk about this, about yesterday's events in russia, i'm sorry, well, for now in the russian federation, dagestan, i'll say it like this, nazism of pure water, it seems to me like that, to your opinion, this is a one-time action or not, taking into account the fact that appeals are being heard in telegram channels, appeals are being heard in various telegram channels to the dags, to the avars, to the circassians, well, in a word, all the peoples who inhabit. kavkaz , are you going to hold similar protests today and in the following days? well, you probably can't talk about nazism, but the fact is that dagestan is a multinational country, there are only 24 state languages ​​in dagestan, so there are a lot of ethnic groups and it is, well, a multi-ethnic entity

within the russian federation. as for this anti-semsky psychosis, then this is the result of several reasons, the first is the long-term sowing of hatred through russian television, and dagestan, let me remind you, despite its multi-ethnicity, it is a very young region, where there are many strong young men who either have to fight somewhere or go somewhere to work out their energy, since there is especially no work in this region, and as a rule, they either go to work somewhere in the army, or bandit on the territory of russia, that's about it. so yesterday's events are evidence of several factors. first, political islam is quite popular in dagestan, in general, the russian regions, it seems to me, have started a completely different

communication, with these with the awarding of awards to adam kadyr, one of the sons of the chechen leader, so to speak, in kadyrov's pubic hair, and it looks very strange, because it is essentially the construction of horizontal communication between islamic regions with political islam, political islam in the vechkeria is essentially... the basis of the current regime, in dagestan also, by the way, therefore in this sense, regions with political islam, in their nervousness er, to the circle of palestine was transmitted through the global media, well, through russian tv, and through its own, the fact is that these regions are quite closely connected both with the emirates and with others, with iran, that is, with many

islamic regions, and this communication gave rise to another of the impulses to the entanglement, that it is surprising that the local authorities in dagestan immediately hurry... on the instructions of the moscow fsb to hang labels that this is a special operation of the ukrainian sbu, if this is a special operation of the ukrainian sbu, then i am proud of my special service, mr. volodymyr, please tell me please, you mentioned political islam several times, islam , what did you mean, what is political islam, the fact is that in today's world, classical ideologies, or socialism, are ugly, they are somewhat blurred, and political islam - this is a kind of tracing paper from christian democracy, political islam, this is when there is no

ideology in the countries, and on the basis of ideology, it is put, well, let's say, to follow islam. look, one of the requirements, for example, of political islam in russia is the introduction of sharia courts, and another one, russia seems to have already one, so to speak, in another monopoly of its own, in russia, in regions with a predominantly muslim population, they are beginning to prepare for the introduction of islamic... banking, that is, this is another model of banking, an alternative to the traditional one, where, where there is, well,

interest, which is based on interest, the entire profitability of banks, on lending, this is a slightly different model, oriented to e, the achievement of common benefit, somewhere, somewhere like that, but to imagine a country where two types of banking exist in parallel, this is essentially a prerequisite for further separation of islamic regions, well, i see, i think i understood you, mr. volodymyr, if i misunderstood , please correct me now, it is something similar to the fact that in russia there is the roc, the russian orthodox church, you can call it political christianity, yes, yes, yes, the fact is that the very bet on monotheism, which is so russian in the russian orthodox church as a single state religion, led to... a response from the islamic regions and they, as an antithesis, started their identity not around national memory, because well they very often lack the intelligence to to understand the historical mission of this or that nation, very often small nations try

to jump under some big ideological umbrella, and islam in this sense turned out to be more than suitable for those regions that do not want to be associated with the russian orthodox church. of course. mr. volodymyr, look, taking into account the fact that i see problems in his communication with representatives of this political islam, unfortunately he does not have problems with communication with political christianity, but there are problems with communication with one, with others, fail there what are there, please tell me what putin can really fear now, well... look , one of the political technologies of the kremlin was reduced to a systemic, systemically controlled crisis, the kremlin believed that the crisis could be controlled and

the one who shapes the scenario of the crisis, the one in in principle, it is governed by it, and he benefits from controlled, uh, conflict, but controlled conflict is always... uh, well, it is at the limit when it ceases to be controlled, and this controlled chaos, which russia created, first by the perimeter of its borders, then partly within itself, er, this chaos gave birth to a few antitheses, er, in particular, one of the antitheses is the horizontal communication of islamic regions, we see that the leadership of tatarstan awards adam kadyrov, then, eh, the leadership of the north caucasian eh, eh, formations, eh, ethnic also awards, that is, these are such signs of loyalty, but they do not have a kremlin,

that is, well, the interesting thing about current events, but the point is , that 35 million muslims on the territory of russia, they have a very, well, serious system of internal communication, we see, for example, how in moscow, ethnic groups, dovniks, they can even compete with each other and arrange competitive fights, but they all gather under mosques on the days of major muslim holidays, and this is very organized, very , a communicated community, and you are a supporter, you share the opinion that the beginning of the end of putin and his russia can begin precisely from the northern caucasus, well, there are many factors here, turkey, whose influence is growing very substantially,

started 20 years ago, initially with turkish council, and then it already moved to the league of turkic states or the association of turkic states, and the fact is that precisely in russia there are potentially islamic regions, most of them are turkic, er, that is, when a large community of turks is created, er, well, somewhere under 300 million, in total, then in the post-soviet space, in fact, an alternative to the soviet ideology, a unifying logic, this is the logic of ethnicity, is created in the post-soviet space, the turks understand each other without translation, what is the uniqueness, what, when, at one time, the russian empire on war with the turkish empire, captured central asia, it created the illusion all the time that turkey is a great evil, it is the main, main evil that opposes

the soviet union, the russian empire, then it turned out that in fact the turks understand each other, well, turkic languages, they are, well , the mechanics of formation are such that turks understand each other without translation, that is, they are not those russian quasi-slavs who do not understand belarusians and ukrainians. although ukrainians, in my opinion , understand almost all slavic languages ​​without translation, or poles, that's why peculiarity, i.e. russia ceases to be an integration center, and russia has no ideology for the post-soviet space, even, even for the space of russia itself, so precisely, the turkic regions of russia, and this is also yakutia, let me remind you, the mountainous altai, for example, that is ... there is an interesting thing here in that this is a huge territory of russia, huge

, simply, and the volga region, bashkatostan and tatarstan, they, they are the most mature of all the regions of the russian federation to full statehood, that's why bashkartostan is next to it, by the way, the population of dagestan is about the same as tatarstan and bashkortostan, it has a population of up to 5 million, and according to european standards... it is a completely self-sufficient country, ichkeria, well , 200 million, somewhere approximately, that is, ichkeria, compared to dagestan, it is a little bit, well , although it may have already distanced itself more from russia in spirit, but dagestan is a potentially explosive territory, because, for example, there are the magomedo brothers who were white partners, medvedev and putinsky, the security forces crushed the magomedovs, they imprisoned them, and

their influence in dagestan is big, and there is still a row there such dagestani billionaires who, in principle, feel quite uncomfortable in russia, but do not see a way out for themselves yet. mr. volodymyr, what happened yesterday in makhachkala, in your opinion, is a one -time such event, it seems to me that it is such a touchstone, i.e., well, now the regime has been shaken from this side, we remember that literally a week ago they were shaken regime with the announcement of putin's death, and no one saw the big tears of mass, millions of crying on the territory of russia, that is, there is a feeling that puti putin died a long time ago for the russians themselves, now swayed to the subject. well , the local security forces did almost nothing for such mass riots, they later of course did such

a simulated clean-up, but in principle. in principle, the local security forces are not ready to go against the people, that is, a lot of such, well, test scenarios are being created now , it seems to me that now russia will be shaken by these test scenarios every week, in your opinion, i read this morning about what many people wrote about the fact that this did not start inside dagestan, but that it was stirred up from outside, what do you think about this? well, it is difficult to stir up from the outside the fact that there is no yeast inside society, it is the same as, do you remember, for example, russian propaganda told about cookies, from victoria day, that the cookies of the state department suddenly forced ukrainians to rebel against yanukovych, well, we in ukraine know that cookies are not the incentive

of the uprising, our desire to live in a free world, dagestan. overpopulated, dagestan, very intra-conflict, there are a lot of inactive youth, i.e. free youth, they very often break into, well, revolutionary scenarios, so now, i think that they will try to work on dagestan, due to some external scenarios, i want to remind you that in general, dagestan fought against russia in parallel with echkeria, and this struggle did not stop even... in recent years, in ukraine there is the dagestan battalion, so to speak, calls itself the foundation of the future dagestan, the future dagestan army, independent dagestan , well, as for islam, in dagestan, in my opinion, there are both shiite and sunni, uh, well,

the presence of shiites and sunnis, because the neighbor azerbaijan is shiite, as is dagestan due to such polyethnicity, it is, well, prone to internal conflict, but at the same time, for example, kadyrov's constant aggressiveness, it unites the dagestani elites, because kadyrov has been asleep for a long time and sees to create a north caucasian confederation on the basis of and much more... to penetrate dagestan, to make it a satellite of ichkeria, well, in fact, the people of dagestan do not like this idea very much. mr. volodymyr, due to lack of time, i have one last question, please tell me what it will be now putin's reaction to what is happening in dagestan, he seems to be gathering radbes tonight, what can they decide? putin has several factors

to try to use the russian guard. but the national guard from ethnic russians on the territory of dagestan, there are, well, yes, like yesterday, these units are part of the national guard, they are also in good condition, something similar, well, there are also marines there, that is, there are military bases there, i want to remind you, 20 seconds , mr. volodymyr, 20 seconds, i want to remind you that, in my opinion, the mass death of dagestanis in ukraine, in the war against ukraine, will generate just that wave of discontent, will make the anti-russian uprising quite successful. oh, if only it would become quite successful as soon as possible. mr. volodymyr, as always, thank you very much for your participation in the world at war program, it was volodymyr tsybulko, a political scientist, they were talking about russia and its quick, i really hope, death as a country. well, on this, due to lack of time, i will summarize the program, today we talked about

china, its influence on geopolitics, and the situation in the middle east. and about the events which took place the day before in dagestan, which is still part of the russian federation. we will meet with you next monday, there will be new guests, new topics, it will be interesting as always, my name is yuri fizer, see you soon. in ukraine, at 2:00 p.m., a news broadcast on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval is coming to your attention, greetings to all viewers. details of the morning attack on odesa region have emerged. muscovites fired rockets into the ship repair plant, which caused a fire. four employees of the enterprise were injured, two of them were hospitalized, the regional office was informed prosecutor's office there is also