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to try, the answers will dawn, our values and ukrainian views remain unchanged. hello, this is svoboda morning, an informational project of radio svoboda. top guests every day, this is a ship district, live inclusion. we we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. weekdays at 9:00. the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. wins and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics. serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this. people who own information and shape public
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opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future right now, the most interesting thing in the program verdict by serhiy rudenko, from monday to friday at 20:00, repeat at 12:10. congratulations, as always, at this time, the program world during the war breaks into the air of the tv channel, i with our guests, we discuss the most important things that happened in the world during the past week, and we try to look into the week ahead, in order to see what
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we need to be ready for. thanks to everyone who watches us where we haven't been taken off the air, thanks to those who watch us on youtube and a big request to you, please put your preferences. and write comments, in this way the youtube algorithm will show the world at war program more often to youtube viewers, so , well, in order to have time to talk a lot, i introduce my first, my first guest , this is alina hrytsenko, the chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, ms. allina, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, good day, glory to the heroes, well, i will talk to you about the east. the far east, southeast asia, in one word we are talking about today with you about asia, you know what i want to hear from you, you spoke repeatedly, even in the program world during the war, when you and i touched on the topic of china, you spoke about what china the leadership of china is constantly playing its own game is doing
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everything is so that it is in favor of beijing, look, i want to remind our viewers of three points now, and then i will ask you a question. two weeks ago, putin was in china at the invitation of xi jinping, he came there, met with him, came, well, experts and you said that he came as a junior partner, then the minister of foreign affairs under heaven ivan and last week he went to washington, met with the president of the united states states by joe biden, and today defense minister serhiy shayguz is again in china and speaking again about some very serious strategic partnership and cooperation between russia and china. ms. alina, what kind of game is beijing playing, considering such, well, multi-vector trips? well, first of all, china positions itself as
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a second world power of a global dimension, just like the united states of america, this is the first thing to note. second, it means, accordingly, that china has an absolute. as, in principle, all other sovereign states conduct the foreign policy that they consider necessary, that is, if china considers it expedient to continue cooperation with russia federation, because it helps china to satisfy some national interests, in particular in the energy sphere, in food , in the sphere of food security, then china will implement it in the future, therefore, perhaps, in our opinion, western european visits, trips and so on, in fact absolutely... is invested in china's strategy, china's logic, china as a global power that has this very not -quite-stable, deteriorating relationship with the united states of america, one way or another understands all these negative
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consequences that this confrontation can bring to china itself in the sphere of trade, economy and so on, plus , to date, due to the russian-ukrainian war, china's reputation, china's image in some countries has become a little more toxic, and china become toxic, some countries understand that this bipolar confrontation between states and china does not bring anything good and do not want to make a choice in favor of one or another state, they try to maintain neutrality, some countries distance themselves from china to a greater extent, because the united states of america in one way or another currently has more opportunities, more influence, in particular in the global financial and economic sphere, so some countries... do not avoid closer cooperation with china in view of this fact, and china of its own, with his side understands that relations must be improved, relations must be somehow corrected , that is why this visit was aimed at this, at further
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negotiations, at the search for some common interests, points of contact, where china, the interests of china and the states, coincide, and plus this there is definitely a build-up to the meeting between sizzimpin and joe biden, which will most likely take place next month on the sidelines of the ates summit, which is due to take place in san francisco in the united states of america, and at the same time china continues to keep russia close as, well, you can consider it and as a junior partner, as a vassal, in fact, this semantics does not play a significant role here, er, china will continue to cooperate with the russian federation and invite representatives of russia to such multilateral sites, platforms and forums where china is directly represented, so there is really no illogicality here, china , on the contrary, is trying to confirm its role and its representation as a responsible global player that
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is ready to cooperate with those states that are open to china, actually with from the point of view of the russian federation, everything is also very simple, for putin there was a visit to the forum, which was dedicated to... the one train, one way project, first of all, it was work for an internal audience, because in this way putin demonstrated to his own society, the russian society, that russia is not yet in isolation, and that russia has partners with whom it is possible to cooperate, it was also an attempt to use this cooperation with china as a trigger for the event, because everyone is closely watching cooperation between russia and china, what they agree on, how much they deepen their relations, and that these relations, this cooperation do not cross some red lines, in particular in the sphere of, for example, the supply of arms to russia from on the part of china, but that's why china really really plays its own... game and does everything exclusively for the benefit of its own national interests. ms. allina, have these red lines
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not yet been crossed, i mean the supply of weapons by china, well, maybe not weapons, but maybe there are drones, components, have these red lines not yet been crossed? well, as far as we can see, not yet, yes, that is, we know, we know of cases that china continues to supply some individual, some individual products that can be considered dual-use products, i understand, that is still ongoing those agreements that were reached even before the start of a full-scale invasion, plus as far as we can judge from the review, yes, that is, from information from open sources and the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine and from the pentagon, for example, that china does not supply any heavy weapons that could fundamentally change the situation and state of affairs at the front, because as we see, these red lines have not been crossed to date. and i to this day, i still very much doubt that china will still dare to take
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such a step, and so, so openly to support the russian federation in this war by supplying serious armaments. and regarding the open support of ukraine, because look, they really broke in a year ago with their initiative, well, a little less , well, a year ago, with their peaceful initiative , they broke in, went to russia, to ukraine, to the united states of america, now somehow. .. very much quieted down, well, actually, the same peace plan that we, in particular, criticized so much because of its watery, let’s say, ambiguity, because there is no there was no recipe, it was not some kind of plan, there was no road map, how to settle this conflict, in particular by political means, and the problem is that there is no such recipe, there is no one, including china, and besides offering to sit down the negotiating table, yes, i.e. to stop hostilities, nothing else china, like other states, in principle, cannot offer, we saw it
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on the example of african states, we saw it on the example of brazil, so in particular, that apart from just calling until before to sit down at the negotiating table, we are unlikely to be able to hear anything, and china itself has shown itself in the same spirit now against the background of the conflict in the middle east between hamas and israel, again they have a special representative... from the chinese government for middle eastern affairs, who is also currently on a tour of the middle east and is visiting the arab states and they are supposedly trying to find some way to resolve the conflict, but i very much doubt that we should put any hopes on china that china will be able to really to act as a mediator, even despite the success that china had in normalizing relations between saudi arabia there and iran, because the parties there were ready for these negotiations, and they were, in principle, already negotiating, when china so very
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timely broke into this process and was able to represent itself as a guarantor of security, as a meddiatrist and a country that can really be such a platform for these changes, but regarding the conflict between hamas and israel, i very much doubt this, as well as regarding the russian ukrainian war, because on today, despite the statement of today's minister of defense of the russian federation that russia is allegedly ready to conduct some negotiations there, as he expressed on a realistic basis, for today, any negotiations with the russian federation are unlikely to be expedient, therefore involving china as a medical doctor, especially since the neutrality of china, as it is often very marked in the pro-russian family, as it is called, nevertheless we see informational support of the russian federation, ideological support, therefore, we can hardly consider china as a truly impartial player, a country that can act as a mediator in the settlement of the russian-ukrainian war.
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of course, ms. alina, and the last question for you, but i am adding two more countries, india and north korea, the deepening of economic cooperation between russia and india, and the deepening, seriously, the deepening of military cooperation between russia and north korea, how it can affect on the strength of russia, let's say, in the war with ukraine, well, india actually, as well as china. continues his as well its own strategy of the so-called strategic autonomy, and just as china puts its own national interests first , russia provides india with energy carriers and oil. and coal and diamonds, and this sphere of diamond processing, diamond cutting is one of the most significant for india, yes, because india has the city of sora, it is such a world capital of diamond processing, which are then supplied to third countries, even though that on those diamonds mined by russia on its territory, in particular, the company is the monopolist there alros, despite the fact that these products
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are subject to sanctions, if the products were processed in some third country, for example, in india, then that's it. sanctions do not work here , and you can continue to export these products. therefore, india, like china, realizes its own national interests, but at the expense of such a less pro-russian neutrality in our country, india managed, unlike china, to maintain a positive image. today , india is not as toxic as india , as it has regional geopolitical competition with china continues to actually implement this competition and try to replace china on this front, to involve as many countries as possible, to develop some alternative initiatives, not those that china has, china has one belt, one road, india has an alternative proposal, this is the project of the road to spezia, this is a mawson project, india has alternative
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venues, debatable, for example, the racine dialogue, which was held in new delhi this year, and there were a lot of representatives from countries and even secretary of state blinkin was there, so india, while all the attention is on china, on the confrontation between the states and china, india is slowly rising and gaining weight on the world stage, in terms of how much it can strengthen the position of russia, well , to some extent it can be considered sponsoring the war, yes , because one way or another, india buys these products from the russian federation. and helps russia stay afloat, as well as china, they help russia avoid this isolation, on the other hand russia has to date, no other way, and is ready for any conditions of cooperation, and makes crazy crazy discounts on products for these countries, for asian countries, so there is no other way left in russia, but again, this cooperation is not directed there against ukraine, i.e. no one
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is trying to make ukraine worse, on the contrary , everyone thinks first of all about their own national interests, that's how ukraine should do it. as for north korea, there are certain risks here, indeed, this visit of kimchinin to russia was a bit worrying, because kimchinin first of all went to ask financial aid, humanitarian, food, because as far as we know, there is a very serious famine in north korea right now , a massive famine, that's what we can read from open sources, because of course, to investigate, to really assess the scale of this famine is very difficult in view of the tightness and closure of... north korea, there were indeed negotiations on the supply of weapons, and most likely north korea will continue to supply the russian federation with certain types of weapons, why will it continue, because in principle, north korea has been doing this for these almost two years of war. we know that the soldiers of the armed forces of ukraine found ammunition of north korean production, there was
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ammunition for barrel artillery, for mlrs, this, this, this weapon, which. the dprk received from the soviet union back in the 60s and 80s. here the question is both the quantity and the quality of the weapons that kraindr will be able to supply to the russian federation. it should be noted that most likely these deliveries will not significantly change the situation at the front. especially since kimchin is asleep and sees these damn things the imperialists are preparing an external intervention in kindr and they are indeed preparing for war. therefore , the question is about the number of weapons that the dprk will be able to supply to the russian federation. the russian federation, for its part, what it can offer kaidr in the field of military-technical cooperation , it is most likely some kind of space technologies in the field of outer space, kaidr is already this year trying, trying, but still will not launch its space spy satellite, therefore , most likely, the russian federation can provide
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some certain technologies, but not sharing nuclear weapons, this is a very, very unlikely scenario, so there are certain risks of cooperation, for ukraine, they are, again, i'm not a military expert, but as far as i understand, the weapons that north korea has , it will not significantly change the situation at the front in favor of the russian federation, there is still more risk here for regional states, in particular for south korea and japan, for which the dprk poses an existential threat, of course, ms. alina, thank you very much for participating in program, alina hrytsenko, chief consultant of the national institute of strategic studies, said. with her about china and the influence it has on many geopolitical processes in the world, we are now switching to the middle east and oleksandr bulin is already in direct contact with me, from the middle east, mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, congratulations, glory to the heroes. mr. oleksandr, explain to me, there was information that the ground operation
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of the israel defense forces in the gaza sector will last even six months, taking into account such intensive shelling, not combat operations, but shelling that is currently being carried out by the israel defense forces, and considering that the territory... of the gas sector is roughly the territory of kyiv, why half a year? well, it is quite simple, because firstly, there are 2.5 million people living in gaza, who have a very bad attitude towards israel for many reasons, starting there since the first arab-israeli war of 46-48 years, and secondly, hamas built in gaza, the lousy infrastructure, everyone has seen this so-called, so-called metro, khazy, which is actually, well, not any metro, but tunnels, that have been built by hamas in order to ensure their firepower, there are even tunnels that have rails that
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can be used for carts with weapons, with ammunition and so on, so with such a large population, with such enormous resources , which hamas has, and no one even in the israeli government expects a quick and victorious war, and this is bad, of course, because, as far as i understand, a lot of human and technical resources will be spent, and most likely there will be many deaths, but let's move on, here you already mentioned hamas, hamas was in moscow, this is the only country, i mean russia, where representatives of hamas came, they have not been anywhere else, can we talk about the fact that in this way openly... russia openly showed the world, that she supports hamas, not israel, despite the fact that putin used to have, well , one might say, quite good relations with the prime minister of israel
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, benjamin netanyahu. from one point of view it can be said that, from another point of view, you are really right that putin stayed here, well, in the negative, because it would be in the interests of russia to stay status quo in the middle east, which was until october 7. when russia supports syria, has close ties with iran, including the war in ukraine, and including, russia has good ties with israel and personal very good ties between president putin and netanyahu. now, when russia has to choose a side, it turns out that she, she decided that it is more promising to go for such a small cooperation with iran in this matter. in order to continue and further cooperation in the defense sector, to purchase iranian drones to use them on
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war against ukraine and so on. in general, it is likely that russia will try to use these meetings in the future, now hamas, recently, a few days ago, a few weeks ago, putin met with the head of the palestinian national administration on the west bank. fadh bumazen, so it seems that russia will try to use these meetings in order to later present itself as a mediator and take advantage of these connections with fatah in the west bank, with hamas, with the gaza strip, with which negotiations are currently underway, and more at least until recently, good relations with israel in order to try to be, yes, a mediator in this conflict and try to win. to score some political points in this region. mr. oleksandr, you mentioned iran, and please tell me, are the threats that have recently been made by representatives of the iranian authorities,
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are they just threats, or will iran at some point be ready and even able to join in supporting hamas? well, first of all, iran, well , de facto already supports hamas, at least with weapons and finances. in any in this case, he has already joined this war, secondly, the direct entry of iran into this conflict is currently very unlikely. iran does not have a border with israel, so it is not clear how to divert the troops. even if it can be said that iran could use its expeditionary, military group in syria and strike israel from the north, from the same dutch heights, the effect of surprise is already lost if... this is iran, the same hezbollah, wanted to actively enter the war, it had to be done, at the beginning of october, together with hamas, and inflict
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strikes from many sides at once. now that there is a draft for the army in israel, yes, they have mobilized there, from 350,000 reservists , when there is already a huge israeli group in the north of the state, the longer it takes, the less likely it is that iran will enter this war directly, so for now these are such threats, in order to simply show that here we are supporting the other side, not you, and to expose ourselves to those who support hamas in a good light, but no actions, active actions, so far do not have to be expected, well the last to you question, mr. oleksandr, please tell me, at the moment, as far as i understand, this is only a local conflict, given the protests, the threats that are coming from different parts of the world, is there any threat that this
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local conflict can change. .. forgave something more, eh, there are threats, and a lot depends on how much they can resist, the modern regimes in egypt, jordan, in which, well, there are autocracies, in egypt the military has been ruling since the 13th year, in jordan the king , and which have had good relations with israel for several decades, at least in the top brass, if we see that the protests are happening , if we see that, iran, and the leaders of hamas are calling for the citizens of jordan to rise up against their rulers, uh, yes, overthrow them and started a war, a general arab war against israel, then in this case it could turn into something more than a simple local conflict in one small gas sector, but again,
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there are no prerequisites for the ... demonstrations in these countries to win and the regimes in them were reset, so far there are no, they are still that are of a sufficiently massive nature, but not so critical that they cannot be removed, of course, thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, for participating in the program, thank you for your professional comments and for clarifying the situation, regarding what is happening in the middle east now. oleksandr bulin, middle east expert. now a short advertisement. according to the rules of television, we will meet with you in just a few minutes. espresso celebrates its tenth anniversary in 2023. we are proud to present our new ethereal look. stay tuned for an updated espresso, because despite everything, we stay in touch. the information hour on the espresso tv channel continues. our viewers, to whom we are infinitely grateful for their trust, are in touch with you. greetings, dear viewers, this is velikiy ter program on
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