[000:00:00;00] somewhere demining one's own lands and unfortunately there is already an unfortunate incident , one such amateur sapper was blown up and died, yes , we also have such cases here, now 12,500 hectares have been demined, out of 683 in the right-bank kherson region, but also here there are enough people who are also deminers engaged in such gray or black demining for money for people and there was also a case when these people were detonated, so we do not advise our people to use these services, especially since after demining

by such deminers or sappers, you are not people don't... no documents, then they can't claim compensation from the state, and what if you said something about evacuating little by little, from the city, for example, kakhovka, deep into the kherson region, the occupiers, in particular, some kind of pension fund there , the employees of this fund were evacuated, and they are starting to resettle in the houses of those residents, those ukrainians who were forced to flee from the occupation. and now their homes are occupied by these very workers who are being evacuated, what is the reason for such an evacuation to the depths of the kherson region, they are afraid of something, they are afraid that in the ukrainian military can enter the tile, to be honest, i heard through word of mouth that there was a connection, i can't hear very well, mr. oleksandr, i'll ask once again if that's how you hear me, that's how i hear now, yes, there is information that the russians

have started to carry out ... the evacuation of employees of at least the pension fund there and some other public institutions of theirs deep into the kherson region, they are given apartments there of those ukrainians who escaped from the occupation, why are they carrying out this evacuation, they are afraid that an example may come to kakhovka ukrainian military? yes, of course, well, in principle, this aggression is now an increase in the number of these aerial bomb attacks, including, and there are cases when these aerial bombs hit the left bank, they are very worried and afraid that very soon, our defense forces, armed forces will capture them, some documents, including some institutions

that they organized there with their collaborators, so of course they... and they don't care about evacuating all the population, but some institutions, because they don't have enough people to do anything worked, there are no schools, not even hospitals, they have there because there are very few people who agree, so they bring these doctors from russia, who also run away a month later. because nobody here is interested in dying on a foreign land, well, if we talk about russia, and how is the humanitarian situation in the occupied parts of the kherson region, i understand that there is some kind of re-vaccination with russian vaccines against covid, because there is again the incidence has increased, this vaccination, yes,

well, they are constant there. these measures, well, this is their standard, such a tactic, pleasing the eye, they constantly hold some kind of holidays, some kind of permanent events, well, people just understand that there, as with russians, there is always food and spectacles, they just don’t give bread, especially because even with aid now, with humanitarian aid... they have problems , and with medicines, problems, everything is very expensive, and there are simply problems with payments, and even from there , doctors and teachers do not receive salaries for four or five months, there are delays in pensions, i think that this is also in including the problem with those collaborators who are leading there

institutions and they simply steal this money, and it does not reach the people, and besides that, there are no major repairs , there is no water supply, including no road repairs, in principle, this situation is getting worse every day and worse, i think that this is a consequence of the fact that the occupiers simply do not believe themselves that they will stay there for a long time , so why invest , for the story, tolokonnikov, head of the press office of the kherson regional military administration, was with us, we are moving forward in our roll call, now we will ask what life is like in chernihiv, chernihiv region, and in the meantime, while we are waiting for oleksiy maslov, a journalist from

chernihiv, to appear on our airwaves, i want to answer, ours is already here, a journalist from chernihiv, oleksii maslov, mr. oleksii, good morning, good morning , i greet you, how did chernihiv oblast sleep, how did this night pass in chernihiv oblast, were there any shellings, tell us, shellings are taking place, unfortunately, but it has to attention to the border, the border with the russian federation, the border communities are under shelling, a day has passed, it was shelling , it seems that they were shelling from grenade launchers, in principle, day to day is different, sometimes these shellings are intensified by the enemy, sometimes they are comparatively smaller ... in terms of intensity, this is the logic of the enemy itself, it is hardly possible to track the enemy without being a soldier, probably they somehow distract from the force, or carry out

provocations and so on, but this happens in relation to, unfortunately, unfortunately, what , what does he still live for? chernihiv, how to prepare, how to prepare for the heated season, whether there is actually readiness for future shelling, i read in that sensational material of the times, in particular the times magazine, and that in particular there, in general, this is this publication, which can be disassembled into very small quotes , that one of the officials of the president's office predicts that this year there will be even fiercer shelling than last year, but he is worried that this time no one will be so lenient with us, they say, you had a year to prepare, but you didn't prepare. well, we prepared, er, again, here some of the information, obviously, and this is natural , is, is a secret, including a military secret, but that is the information that is made public, that can be made public from time

to time, we see, we read , we hear that there is constant work on strengthening the border, among other things, regarding the fortification works in the past week, there were, how to say, from the authorities, it went around the border, and well, as far as it is possible was, reported that the fortification works are now ongoing, they are strengthened, even this in terms of border defense, and in terms of preparation, before shelling, obviously , it should be assumed that this winter season, the heating season, the enemy will again... again , most likely, attack the energy infrastructure and infrastructure in general, of course the same goes preparation, but we simply do not know about everything and civilians should not know, but

what is meant is that the air defense forces are being strengthened, and all other defense forces in the territory of the chernivtsi region, including them. did not weaken never the defense, only strengthened, i’m talking about the fortification and air defense forces too, tell me, yes, yes, please, regarding the preparation in general for the heating season, then, as i also mentioned in the past inclusions, the biggest problem is probably that that debts were accumulated, on the one hand, debts of consumers, to heat suppliers, to heat supply companies, and on the other hand, in turn, as according to the domino principle, so to speak, these heat supply companies... also owed money, owed money for energy carriers, for example, for gas, and this fall a strategic decision was made at the state level to restructure the debts

of teplokomungo, namely chernihivsky, so that these debts could be repaid in a few years, and this made it possible to start the actual heating season. it's still warm now, so the heating is running in such a frugal mode, but it's also running in the home , that is, in all the infrastructure facilities where there should be heating, and constantly, even though it's not september 1 far, but none the less, none the less started, some educational institutions are actually starting to work, here is fresh news for chernihiv , these are two more preschool educational institutions, kindergartens, as we say, have started their work, this is meant from those kindergartens that were once damaged, badly

damaged by the russian the time of the invasion in the 22nd year, that is, it is as if one of the indicators, one of the indicators that actually the entire infrastructure is working, and work on repair, reconstruction, restoration, procurement of new equipment is constantly happening, continuously, er, public, actually chernihivske, published such material, which is difficult for me to understand, maybe you can help us, i understand that the point is that dmytro brezhynskyi, the head of the city military administration and acting chairman of the city mayor after the court actually suspended atroshenko from performing the duties of the mayor, oleksandr lomako, quarreled among themselves , they accuse each other of who is actually responsible for this missile strike, when i remind you that the volunteers who held the exhibition, in particular the achievements of this production of domestic drones.

theater, what is the essence of this dispute, if possible, why, why, and are the relations between the city government and the military administration really so strained, these relations are strained, they are even sharp, this, this is a very sharp dispute, since that time, in fact, when the military, city military administration was appointed in chernihiv, since that time, this confrontation , an open confrontation, between dmytro brezhynskyi, the appointed head of the military administration of the city, and oleksandr lumak, who is the secretary of the chernihiv city council and performs the duties of the chernihiv city mayor, and therefore this new round, so to speak, of this dispute of this confrontation, it flared up again last week, it really was, as you rightly said, these two as sides of the confrontation of this, they... actually accused each other of the fact that

the opponent, in relation to each of these parties, the opponent, that the opponent knew about the fact that this drone exhibition would take place on august 19, and that is, dmytro bryzhynskyi and oleksandr lumako, that is their rhetoric was such that they say i didn't know, they said that about me, but he knew and could, let's say, warn, maybe influence. in order to prevent this tragedy, and accordingly, everyone, everyone using certain information resources or social networks, he expressed himself in this way, and this further has such a development that oleksandr lomako, for example, stated that he would submit to of the trial of dmytro bryzhynskyi, the head of the military administration, dmytro bryzhynskyi, for his part, recently mentioned those

episodes which, in his opinion, testify about the fact that the city authorities, well, they could have known, in fact, that is, each other constantly , if they were looking for, looking for any reports about that, which could testify, testify to not quite, let's say, pure play on the part of the opponent , but i would like to emphasize that this is not only a matter of some personal insults , that oleksandr lumako, for example, directly in his social media, well, on his facebook page, he said that he was under pressure, last week there were also searches in his apartment, by state employees the bureau of investigation, which says that the pressure is explained by the fact that he inflicted such and such an insult or called him a coward, i am literally quoting dmytro bryzhynskyi, but, but the fact is

that here, here under the soil of this, i am sure of this, and my confidence is based on the analysis of the events that are taking place and the data that we have, that under the ground of this conflict there are financial processes and the redistribution of financial flows, the fact is that the city military administration can and does significantly influence financial decisions. of the city council, if, i.e. finance, that is, if the city council makes a decision to allocate budget funds to certain needs, then all this can be adjusted by the city military administration, and this is what happens, accordingly, we are talking about - about sums in the millions, tens of millions, perhaps even hundreds of millions of hryvnias, and accordingly, somewhere in the subtext, under the ground of this conflict are the effects on financial flows, there can be no doubt about this,

and it is obvious that this does not contribute to the effectiveness of the implementation of some, some management decisions, that is this is firstly, this of course, it destabilizes... the situation in the city, and secondly, it is also a very unfortunate and very serious consequence that can be observed, is that it polarizes the society, including, we see that there are volunteers, for example active volunteers, authoritative volunteers, some of whom support this dispute and directly declare it on social networks, support, for example, the city military administration, say that it is right in its intentions and aspirations, and actions, while others support the city administration more glad, the same applies even unfortunately for the military, who, being, i mean, currently serving in the armed forces of ukraine, let's say , they still follow the news and they also express themselves from time to time on social networks,

that is, we see that this polarization applies even to military people, not to mention volunteers and generally authoritative public figures in chernihiv, and it is, of course, also very unfortunate, because we see that it brings a certain discord at a time when we need the opposite, unity about . more wait, i'm reading this one at the end already, mr. oleksiy, just for our viewers and for reflection, some teenage guy in chernihiv bullied a pigeon, i don't know the details of this story, but as a result, he was given from three to five years, for cruel the treatment of this pigeon, of course, which is cruel to animals, to people. it's bad for us, mr. oleksiy excluded us , well, for our viewers, i just condemned a certain young woman in the kovel court, who liked to drink a little and somewhere i stole a piece of lard from someone, probably to have a snack, sentenced to five years, here for

cruel treatment of a pigeon under the age of five to a teenager, there are just some things, for example, like mykola tyshchenko, which i remembered about him, because he is here they gave him a bit of a beating in lviv, so to speak, such a human lynching took place for a while, so during the war, during martial law, he took and took advantage of his deputy status and went to have a good rest, and then he also told us that it was he who established diplomatic or other connections, yes so to speak, he held the diplomatic front, and he has nothing to do, he calmly continues to enter the verkhovna rada, calmly travels around ukraine and, for example, comes here to resolve some issues in the lviv region. hey, dear friends, we are going to take a break, then we will come back, andriana kostenko will be with us, we will talk about what is happening in sumy oblast, stay with

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quiet well, the border areas of the sumy region continue to be shelled by the enemy, in fact, in the past day , krasnopilsk, bilopolsk communities suffered and continue to suffer, and also, in the mass media, there are reports of hits in the potivlsky, srednobudsky and other border... communities , as a rule, we are talking about what is being carried out, shelling from mortars and artillery, well , nothing has changed for us for three and a half years, unfortunately, unfortunately, those settlements that directly border with the terrorist state of russia, they are subjected to constant shelling and people, in fact, there is not even a local population left, they have moved to remote, remote communities, remote settlements of these communities.

i also wonder what the current situation is, so to speak, politically at the local level , the sumy city council was raided again the other day, and in particular the acting mayor's office, after the mayor was also arrested, and this there is a secretary of the sumy city council. that's right, yulia pavlyk, what about pavlyk, i don't know, pavlyk, what is it about , are there any comments on this matter now , what does this lady yulia herself say, or what is happening now, so mrs. yulia pavlyk notes that that there is a criminal proceeding and it is actually registered, the court order on searches was obtained, the searches are related to the fact that actually...' suspicion of embezzlement of budget funds, in particular, questions to certain officials of the sumy city

council regarding the purchase, purchase of winter winter clothes, maybe even other certain means for assistance to the armed forces of ukraine, in particular to military formations, well, as far as we know, there are no suspicions today, that is, undeclared suspicions. and not directly opened a specific case against specific officials, although indeed, in my opinion, these events should be connected with the previous suspension of the mayor of the city of sumy oleksandr lysenko, most likely such a whole package of formation is taking place of the evidence base, the whole case regarding the formation of the evidence base, the involvement of certain officials in offenses, to possibly corrupt certain schemes.

we will see how it will develop, but the fact that today the sumy city council from... is left without leadership and the deputy corps is unable to make very important decisions for the border region and deal with issues of security, preparation for winter, and so on, actually in my opinion, a very dangerous situation has developed in our regional center, which in the end may lead to the importance of military administration in the city of sumy. actually, yuliya pavlyk, as i understand it, she is from 1991 birth, that is, a fairly young politician, i would call it that, and i understand that she also has an affiliation somewhere with the vo batkivshchyna party, yes, yes, for a long

time, the sumy city council, headed by the motherland. er, several convocations in a row, the majority of them were representatives of this political force, and oleksandr lysenko, the suspended mayor, also belongs to the political party of the homeland, and in fact his entire team, the executive committee, are in most cases supporters, supporters or members of this political party, it is clear whether or not what is the attitude for... in brief, literally in sum, regarding this case, do they say that it may have political implications, after all, these are not the servants of the people, that is, it is not about a not quite pro-power party, or do they say , that these are really corrupt people, most likely what people are saying, people are saying that the current mayor has already served more than one

term, and in various media there are... suspicions about certain violations, in particular abuses, in the budgetary sphere , and this issue is mostly related to the fact that there is some lobbying local business and purchases there, purchases of various services, accordingly holding tenders, inflated prices, i.e. there are suspicions , i am not ready today, being a responsible scientist, yes, in the teter, to give some, some legal assessments, let the law enforcement system deal with this breakdown , yes, but the fact that, in my opinion, the fact that, today , so much careful attention is paid to the work

of local self-government bodies on the subject, their, well , legitimately, work and this is definitely on time, the war, after all, has arrange everything in places, and in local self-government bodies they have people who work for the community, not for their own business or not for their specific mercantile interests, should work. ms. andriana, thank you very much for this conversation, andriana kostenko, doctor of political sciences and head of the social research center, member of the board of geo intelligence of sumy region was with us, we are on this information block from this hour, we are concluding, we will have news later, kateryna shirkopoyas will tell us the news. katya, congratulations, you have a word. greetings, colleagues, in a moment i will tell you about the statements of the us senate regarding aid to ukraine and support for the ukrainian peace formula

the vatican we will wait. congratulations on the news in eter spress, kateryna shirokpoyas works with you in the studio, so we are ready to tell you operational information as of this time. at night, the enemy shelled ukraine again, in particular, it attacked the myrhorod district of the poltava region with missiles, and there were no casualties or damage to the infrastructure. this was announced by the head of the regional military administration, philip pronin. the russians also launched a drone. in khmelnytskyi and mykolaiv regions, our air defense forces worked on targets there. according to the general staff, at night russian occupiers struck another blow at ukraine, using two shahed and one kh-59 guided air missile. all