[000:00:00;00] an angry president who will fire someone and so on, well, that's it, it's not quite so, right, the president, by the way , is constantly in communication, in direct communication with a large number of journalists and so on, they see his attitude towards that or another problem, the president openly talks about the problems, and even then anonymous sources are not needed, if the president was isolated somewhere, and he practically did not communicate with journalists and so on and so on, then i would understand this construction, well about to practically communicate with journalists, i know that there is time and we are waiting for this interview , in fact, that is why i did not communicate with our journalists, for open meetings, we have not been invited yet, so we are waiting for this invitation so that all questions put, mykhailo, let's talk about the details, you will say that there is no truth, but the article announced big changes, even by the end of this year, about the dismissal of one minister, it also mentions one of the generals responsible for the counteroffensive, or such changes probably will, have you heard anything about it ?

well, first of all, changes are constantly taking place, let's not forget, minister...' they are constantly changing, even military ministers are changing, changes are constantly taking place in our armed forces, and they are initiated by the commander-in-chief, mr. zaluzhnyi is in charge, and definitely there will be constant changes go and go, based on what was implemented, what plans were implemented, what plans were not implemented, and who is more functional, who is less functional, you see, well, that is, constant changes are taking place, the generals are not in the same rotation as the ministers are today, again i don't see anything wrong with this, because rationally it is necessary at what stage of the war we are at, there is fatigue among certain people, there is a lack of understanding of how to move forward, there is a loss , let's say, motivations, and even then you carry out rotations, and among ministers, by the way, and among generals, so again, just think about how it sounds, one general will be changed and one minister will be changed, and this essentially affects all processes, or again, was it necessary 24

no one should be changed in february, regardless of the results we achieve within the framework of the security of the army, or within the framework of ensuring the general war as such, or within the framework of conducting certain or other military operations on the battlefield, well, that’s nonsense, that’s right, changes are coming constantly, and they will go constantly, and this is not a question of the president personally interfering again, but replace me with this general, or appoint this general, and there is no such personal intervention, because there is also one in the material such a moment that some ukrainian military allegedly refuse to go on the offensive, even under a direct order from zelenskyi's office, and here , firstly, is this true, and secondly, is there such a practice that some orders are given to the military from the president's office, and from the president's office they do not surrender and cannot surrender, because the structure is built as follows, there is a military cabinet , there is a staff of the supreme high command, there is a general staff and without directly the commander-in-chief, they report one or another scenario plans, this is closed information,

of course, it will not be printed, we do not discuss it, they report and they also plan various scenario operations in different directions, based on resource capabilities, based on operational and tactical tasks that stand in one direction or another, moreover , it stakes are extended, where one or the other is present directly, commanders of directions or teams of brigades and directly they discuss alternative different scenarios, well, that is, different scenarios are proposed and those that are the most optimal from the point of view of the decision of those or other tasks, directly, i say again, politically, this is not... it is possible to give an order directly, for example, to a brigade with such and such a number, then give an order, go out now in such and such a direction, to solve such and such tasks, it is impossible, yes this system can't work because if you talk to one direct brigade there are 10 more next to it that have to support this, that or the other offensive, it just shows a misunderstanding of the scope of the war, unfortunately, still misunderstanding of the scope of the war like this war

is built on the front line, how many people involved in making this or that decision, for example, about conducting an offensive operation or about conducting a defensive operation, how many resources are pulled up and how many commanders directly participate in the discussion of specific operational and tactical tasks at their level, these are dozens of people, and therefore you know, it's like in a hollywood movie , you pick up the phone and directly the president of the country calls tambo and says, today you have the task of liberating two, two villages in vietnam, well, well, you understand what it is absurd, that is, you deny it, but i heard you, mr. mykhailo, how frankly you can tell about one more point, and how did you react to this text in the president’s office, did president zelensky see it, here is the ukrainian truth, for example, it says that andriy yermak posted this text on telegram as a recommendation to read, and then this message allegedly disappeared, so what is the mood, what is the reaction? in the president's office, i will say this,

after 600 plus days of war there, everything is calm and it is as if except for one thing, except for what is happening directly on the line front, because there it is necessary to constantly talk about the deficiencies of certain instruments of warfare, about the psychological state. military personnel, how to work with it, about certain tasks that need to be performed, and about everything else , about information work, let's say, partners there, or media partners, we treat it calmly, we just understand that we need to constantly repeat the key positions that we take, both on the conduct of the war, and on the fatigue of the war, and on the need for russia in this state not to win, you know, i would just in a slightly different way, on the contrary, in this one... i put those accents then, then in the time article the following should be written: let's say that the united states , together with other countries, the democrats will lose the war, that's not the question, i'm just broader, let's put it in the negotiating context,

for example, let's say that the president does not want to hold negotiations there that are not on ukraine's terms, he certainly does not want to, and it is certainly clearly stated there that the president is interested in seeing that such a war, of such a scale, with such devastating consequences for ukraine, ends justly, because u.s after that it will be necessary... to rebuild ukraine with security guarantees, and we will not receive these security guarantees in any case, if putin's russia remains in the form in which it attacked us, then the emphasis in time magazine should be slightly different, let's write that it's not ukraine that doesn't want to sit at the negotiating table, because it's the united states, i mean in this case, if we're talking about a specific magazine, yes, that it's the united states, together with democratic countries, are ready to lose to russia , a then why not put the emphasis in the article, no... ukraine is not ready to sit down at the negotiating table, yes, we are not ready to sit down at the negotiating table, taking into account the goals that russia sets before itself, because if russia does not lose the war, you and i are aware of this, that's right, it will continue to destroy the statehood of ukraine, then let's say that together, that as of today

, democratic countries are unable to stop authoritarian systems that aggressively violate international law and attack neighboring states, neighboring countries, let's then we write like this, the correct accent will stand. the issue is not that, on the contrary, look, today ukraine does not allow democratic countries to make certain compromises, let me remind you of these compromises of 2008-2014, which led to a large-scale war in eastern europe, if there were no compromises then, we would not be with you today, well, let me remind you, yes, there would not have been a georgian war , which did not receive proper evaluations, if there had not been the annexation of crimea, which everyone turned a blind eye to, then today we would not have a large-scale war that we have today we come to a compromise again, and this will be called tolerating putin, look, just yesterday, putin came out to assess the events in dagestan, in his own country, and again said three things, first, we must

stop the bombing of the civilian population in the gas sector, yes, of course, but let's talk then, what russia is doing, secondly, that the war in ukraine is from an event in the middle east, it is all an escalation behind which the countries of the west stand, well, that is, the author directly: the war in ukraine says that it is not me who is killing now in ukraine, it is you who are doing it, and and the third component everything that is happening in magachkal, and this is the russian federation, yes, it is all inspired by the western ukrainian special services, that is , the person directly who starts all the conflicts is already talking today that it is you who are doing everything, and let us agree with you that we will continue to do this, but say that you are doing this, and in this way it will be a closed circle, that is what we need to write about then, and not about the fact that ukraine is ready to go to negotiations, yes, we do not want to, we do not want to get the third stage of the war with you and be finally destroyed, and certainly the president is in favor, well, the president is responsible for this, and the price that ukraine has already paid is the price that we cannot simply say, but

that's all, fine, we fought a little with the russian federation here, russia did not lose, well, let's go now to somehow agree on something with her, on which we will agree, that russia will remain in the occupied territories, and from these occupied territories will carry out terrorist attacks on the territory of ukraine, well, what will russia do. to behave otherwise, well, it's nonsense, and that's why you need to put accents correctly in the article. ukraine takes the position which takes 600 plus days, absolutely concretely, the same as the countries of the pro-ukrainian coalition took at the beginning, inside, well, there are still three months, mykhailo, summing up, ukrainian partners also take the same position, ready to support ukraine, despite the corruption scandals , due to which reznikov's resignation took place, despite the fact that anti-corruption bodies do not work as they want. without the usa for example and despite all these points? first, from a political and military point of view, the partners definitely support and take the same position, pro which i just said, which is the same position that ukraine takes. secondly, now let's move on to corruption, this is a very important issue, we definitely have

it, you and i understand it perfectly, and we definitely need to work there, again, and the fact that even during the war there are resignations of the relevant ministers , well, are there other persons who in one way or another are directly or indirectly related to corruption there, this indicates that we understand this problem, we are working with it, but what you say about anti-corruption bodies, which are not so work as i would like, but who is in these bodies? works, the citizens of ukraine, well, accordingly, they still have to decide for themselves, i always talk about it, you can work out many regulations, you can work out many reputation components, previous ones, but then you put this or that citizen of ukraine there and he for himself has to decide what he wants, he wants to make a career in the conditions of yesterday's ukraine, or he wants to build other relations between these or other institutions and society in ukraine, if he chooses the second path for himself, then we we will have effective law enforcement

agencies with you. i would like to note here that, in principle, ukraine's partners , the west and the united states and the european union, make demands or recommendations to ukraine, we are talking about anti-corruption reform bodies, we are also talking about reforming the judicial system there, for example, yes, that is why these are so important things that we also talk about on the air, i thank you for joining our air and reacting to the theses that were voiced in the times magazine article, mykhailo podalyak, adviser to the head of the office. was a guest freedom morning. thank you. this is svoboda ranok and we will talk about the events in dagestan. that the events in dagestan were inspired by western special services from the territory of ukraine, russian president vladimir putin stated during the meeting, which was convened the day before due to sunday's anti-semitic pogroms in makhachkala, which occurred against the background of the war between israel and hamas. the russian president seems to be hinting that the rioters in makhachkala should go to fight in ukraine. because it is there, as

putin says, that the fate of russia is being decided, everything of the world, including the palestinian people of the palestinian people, who so support the pogroms in makhachkala, in makhachkala, the events in makhachkala yesterday evening are inspiring, in particular through social networks, not least from the territory of ukraine, by the hands of agents of western special services. the one who really defends truth and justice, fights against evil and oppression, against racism and neo-nazism, who wants the west, is fighting now on the donets front. mavdiivka on the dnieper. these are our soldiers and officers. but the day before, the head of dagestan serhiy melikov stated that the utra dagestan telegram channel, which allegedly was the first to publish calls to search for jews in makhachkala, is administered from ukraine by, i quote, traitors. the spokeswoman for the ministry of foreign affairs of russia, maria zakharova, says that the kyiv regime played a key role in these events, and she also specifically indicated who they mean in russia. we are talking about the former russian deputy i. ponom, the founder of the utra fevral holding, of which utra

dagestan is a part. however, on sunday evening during events in makhachkala, ponomav denied his relationship to this telegram channel. you will hear his position on our broadcast a little later, by the way, the utra dagestan channel has already disappeared from telegram. earlier yesterday, the owner of the pavlo social network, pavlo durov, promised to block channels that call for violence. meanwhile, in ukraine , they deny their involvement in the anti-semitic pogroms in dagestan. spokesman of the ministry. minister of foreign affairs of ukraine oleg nikolenko said that the events in makhachkala reflect the deep-rooted anti-semitism of russian elites and society. threats to exterminate the jews are the result of the work of russian state propaganda, which for decades cultivated among russians feelings of hatred for other peoples. let's recall that not so long ago , president putin and russian foreign minister lavrov made insulting anti-semitic statements. the ministry of foreign affairs of the russian federation accuses ukraine of involvement in the events in dagestan. an attempt to shift the responsibility of a sick head to

a healthy one. the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi, in his evening address, too mentioned the jewish pogroms in dagestan. he actually trolled the russian government, which mobilized all its forces to seize ukraine, but does not control the situation inside its state. for the second time this year, russia has lost control over events. the rebels are going to moscow. and no one stops them, then the vertical of power in dagestan evaporates and a real pogrom takes place, these are all signals that russia can withstand hostilities and in some places increase pressure on the front, but is unable to withstand this confrontation strategically. i let me remind you that a large-scale anti-semitic pogrom in makhachkala, the capital of dagestan, took place on sunday evening, hundreds of people stormed the local airport before the arrival of a flight from israel.

people broke into the airport terminal, and then surrounded the plane itself on the runway. rioters also threw stones at the soldiers of the national guard who arrived at the scene. the airport completely stopped work, and planes and domestic flights had to be re-directed to other airports. people, including law enforcement officers, were injured in the clashes. in the russian ministry health services requested a statement about the person who died during these events, in the ministry of the interior. russia reports on searches in the homes of fifty residents of dagestan and on the arrest of 83 people involved in pogroms. the airport itself in makhachkala has already resumed its work, but flights to minra. makhachkala flights from tel aviv will still land elsewhere, reports rosaviatsia. meanwhile , israel's national security council and the ministry of foreign affairs raised the north caucasus threat level for israeli citizens to the highest, there they urge their citizens not to visit not only dagestan, but also a number of other russian republics where an outbreak

of anti-semitism is possible. and those israelis who are already in these regions were urged to leave them immediately. well, one is accused. so to speak of the events in makhachkala according to the version of maria zakharova, the above-mentioned ilya ponomav told me in an interview that he did not participate in the organization of the action in dagestan, and although he confirmed that he was a co-founder of the utra dagestan telegram channel, there is nothing in common with him. ex-detate of the state duma, russian political emigrant and political scientist, shared his version of events. were these pogroms directed in the kremlin and does kyiv have anything to do with it. let's listen. they say that. somewhere you are involved in what happened in makhachkala, zakharova seems to have said something like that, tell me what you did there, well, of course they are on fire there, but is anyone surprised that in modern russia they started jewish pogroms, of course

not, well, this is the natural process of the development of this regime, and this is what we are observing now, but of course for them it is very it is inconvenient, they want to appoint someone guilty of this, that it is not them , plus there is a question for certain people from the russian opposition, because from the very beginning this wave that we have something to do with this was started by leonid volkov, who is the leader a former fbk who was kicked out there for participating. to the scheme of freeing mr. friedman from sub-sanctions, well, for him, all the other oppositionists are enemies, well, the truth is that this morning of dagestan channel once started, it was part of the holding morning of february, which

i head, which i created, and, we did very important matter, we stopped mobilization in dagestan. well, a group of local islamists came to me there and said that they were also against the war and they were ready to do it together with us, well, but after that i handed over control of the channels to them, and there was no more money or management of it channel for more than a year already, and they wrote about it many times, you talked about it, well, but the people there do not care, who benefits from what happened in makhachkala, yes, because here, well, probably someone has there are already thoughts about what it was the russian side that initiated it, that the kremlin staged it and that in general it should perhaps spread to the territory of the whole of russia in general, these same anti-semitic sentiments, what do you say?

but look, there is simply no conspiracy here, er, it actually happened because of such and such a popular movement from below, because... there is solidarity among active muslims with hamas, because they see that here, here are muslims, there muslims, and there is a common enemy, and they treat it in such a way that they don't care if there were terrorist attacks there or not terrorist attacks, these are their own, and also the leaders of this utra-dagestan, these are salafis, and hamas, these are also salafis, who are, well , radically, radically sunni, thatch, well, it is wrong, of course, to create solidarity there with the terrorist movement, and this is contrary,

islam, islam is against terrorism there, but people do not understand this, and they believe that the main thing here is the struggle against, against the common... enemy, well, for the kremlin, it is simply an organic development of them, their regime, there is nothing to be surprised about , and they are just now, well, trying to transfer to someone, guilt because of this, that is, in your opinion, it was not staged there in the kremlin , for example, for some purpose, because it surprises someone there, and in social networks there, those russian citizens who were on the plane from tel aviv, they are there blocked, yes, they were talking about the fact that the red guards are not doing anything , and the police are not doing anything there, there is such and such inaction, for nothing... that maybe it was necessary, or is it really just such a crowd and the law enforcement agencies of russia could not

cope with this? well, look when putin meets with hamas, he sends a certain signal to his own security forces that it is his own, he is not meeting with netanyahu now with hamas, well, everyone sees it, and the policemen in this dagestan, they are also muslims, and that is why they sympathize with this case and they directly took part in these pogroms, and again there is nothing to be surprised about, this is a reasonable and logical development of this regime, the usual political responsibility for this lies with others anyway, and i return to the representative of the national security service of russia, maria zakharova, which is also your surname remembered, and she said that ukraine allegedly played a key role. role in organizing the action at the makhachkala airport, well, the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine also responded to this and said that these statements

are a transfer of responsibility, from a sick head to a healthy one, and what does ukraine have to do with it again? well, for the kremlin, this is a powerful blow to it, because putin has always used the jewish diaspora in other countries as his lobbyists, and now he will lose them, well , everyone will know that there are pogroms in russia and all the meetings with hamas are already there. everything else, of course, they want to at least save something and transfer them to someone else, and that is why they use this topic with ukraine, but i think that no one will simply believe it, because everyone understands who is there anyone here, if we talk about the mood in russian society and the russian elites in general, is there anti-semitism there, at what level and is it worsening, the situation

there now, i would not, if i did not say that anti-semitism in russia in general, it is something like that, very powerful, but bit antisemitism well 100, 100% it exists, and it is more widespread in russia than in ukraine, it is everywhere , it is there in germany, it is also in the united states, there and there in spain, but it is an evil and it is being fought, and in in russia, no, well, actually, and it is very common among the security forces, it is from soviet times, the kgb, and putin, he is from these structures himself, and he rationally understands that friendly relations with the jewish diaspora must be maintained there, he always he did it, but of course there, well, his environment,

they treat this issue in a different way, and look again, the result, we now see, the secretary of the national security and defense council of ukraine, oleksiy danilov, he said that these anti-semitic pogroms in makhachkala are the beginning of the black hundred pogroms in general on the territory of russia, and the beginning of these pogroms is a matter of time, he said so , what can you say? well, he may be right, but it is most likely that it will happen first in the muslim regions, because of this, well, wrong solidarity, so how, how will people understand this, that is, i don't see how it can happen there, for example, in moscow, well, but there is air. in that direction, unfortunately. the ukrainian prosecutor's office in the donetsk region has started an investigation into the mass murder in

the temporarily occupied volnovas. the case was opened under the article on violation of the laws and customs of war. according to the prosecutor's office , three women and two children , born in 2014 and 18, were among the dead. the russian military, according to preliminary data from the prosecutor's office, shot the entire family of nine people, as previously reported by the ukrainian obbutsman, dmytro lubinets. he is. also named the family of the trapper, according to the authorized representative, which the prosecutor's office considers that the family was killed by russian military chechens because the locals allegedly refused to give them their home. in russia, information about the murder of nine people in volnovasi was recognized , the investigative committee of russia reported that they had detained two people who are suspected of involvement in the commission of this crime. according to their data, these are two servicemen from the far east who are serving under a contract. he noted that the first report by the investigator did not mention the russian military. the suspects are now allegedly in custody. in the investigative committee they say that the motive for the crime was

domestic violence. joins our broadcast. denys kazansky, journalist, writer, originally from donetsk region, denys follows what is happening in the occupied territory, denys, i congratulate you, i want to ask, what about the information that is heard these days, about this terrible situation in volnovas, that it is known for a fact that you can confirm whether chechens were really there, whether the reason is that these people, this family did not want to give up their home, what can you say now, well, all the information that we we have, this is information from local residents who write about it, yes, and i understand that, well , relatively speaking , they do not have any evidence, that is, this is information that is spread there at the level of rumors, that is, what has already been officially confirmed by themselves the russians, that this murder was really committed by the russian military, well, they said that in principle from the beginning, the only thing is that the local residents of volnovakha claim that it was the chechens, and we hear, well, they are not called

yes, that there are kadyrovites or not, but they say simply military from afar. who were on the contract, that is, it is possible that they were, relatively speaking, servicemen from the akhmat battalion, there are not only kadyrs, not only chechens, but ethnic ones are serving, and it is possible that the story is that someone saw that it was akhmat and decided that it was chechens, or maybe there is another story , that really, we know that the kadyrovs are in such a personal position in the russian army, they, in principle, are never threatened by anything, they do not go on these meaty assaults, they are not sent on such murderous attacks, but they are just more serve in the rear and shoot tick-tocks, for what the russian military itself complains, so another story is also possible, that everything was really done by the kadyrovs then, but they simply appointed other culprits, some ordinary russian military, whom no one there feels sorry for, and they

will now be condemned there, let's say this, they will be hanged on them.. . guilt, but in fact for us there is no, there is no, especially no difference, yes, who exactly did it, who, what nationality were these soldiers, what was the reason, whether because of the house or because of some other conflict, there is a fact, the main one, that the russian a military man who came to ukraine killed a ukrainian family, an entire family, in fact they cut off, that is , including minor children, nine people, but this is actually genocide. genocide of ukrainians, and this crime can also be cited in all international institutions as proof that the russians came to kill and commit war crimes here. yes, this is a terrible story, a terrible case that really spread, and thank you for telling me what details , well, i understood from your mood, from your comment, that in justice in the occupied territory of russian justice, you do not believe that just appoint some people we will follow this, i thank denys for

informing, denys kazanskyi, a ukrainian journalist originally from donetsk region. told about a terrible story from volnovaga, where russian soldiers shot a whole family in the occupied territory, who, they say, did not want to simply give their home to the russian occupiers. this is svoboda morning, i remind you that you can watch us every weekday from 9:00 on youtube on the radio svoboda channel, be sure to subscribe, like and set the bell so you don't miss important streams, and also on the air of the tv channel. tv, you can actively participate in our broadcasts, post your comments, write your thoughts, questions, maybe suggest topics that you think are extremely important for ukraine today, my name is kateryna nekrecha, i and the entire svoboda ranok team, we wish have a good day,

see you soon. greetings, it's ten o'clock on the clock, which means that it 's news time on esso, kateryna shirokpoyas is working with you. muscovites continue to attack kharkiv region. that night, the enemy shelled vovchansk twice. damaged private enterprise, home ownership, a garage and a car, - said the head of the regional military administration oleg synogubov. the occupiers also set fire to the izyum district and kupyansk, destroying three houses and a vehicle from the jet system. fortunately, no one was hurt.