support for hamas? well, first of all, iran, well, de facto already supports hamas, at least with weapons and finances, so in any case it has already joined this war. secondly, iran's direct entry into this conflict is currently very unlikely. iran does not have a border with israel, so it is not clear how to divert the troops. even if it can be said that iran could use its expeditionary group in syria and strike israel from the north, from the same dutch heights, the effect of surprise is already lost, if it is iran, the same hezbollah, wanted to actively enter the war, it had to be done, at the beginning of october, together with hamas, and strike at once from many sides, now, when in israel, there is a draft for the army, yes, they mobilized there under...'

350,000 reservists, when there is already a huge israeli group in the north of the country, the longer it takes, the less likely it is that iran directly enters this war, so for now these threats are just to show that here we are supporting the other side, not you , and you and expose yourself to those who support hamas is in a good light, but we cannot expect any actions, active actions, so far, and the last questions for you , mr. oleksandr, please tell me, at the moment, as far as i understand, this is only a local conflict, given the protests. to the threats coming from different parts of the world, is there any threat that this local conflict could turn into something bigger, there are threats, and a lot depends on how far the modern

regimes in egypt, jordan, in which, well, there are autocracies, in egypt the military rules from in the 13th year, there is a king in jordan, and in which good relations with israel have been for several decades, at least among the ruling elite. in the event that we see that the protests are taking place, in the event that we see that iran and the leaders of hamas are calling for the citizens of... the jordanians to rise up against their rulers, yes, overthrow them and start a war, generally an arab war against israel, then in this case it could turn into something more than a simple local conflict in one small gas sector, but again after all, there are no prerequisites for the demonstrations in these countries to win, and the regimes in them to be overthrown, so far there are none, they are still... they are of a sufficiently

massive nature, but not so critical that they cannot be suppressed , of course, thank you very much, mr. oleksandr, for participating in the program, thank you for your professional comments and for clarifying the situation regarding what is happening now in the middle east, oleksandr bulin, an expert on the middle east, now a short advertisement, for by the rules of television, we meet with you literally in a few minutes. there are 20% discounts on long-lasting cream in the pharmacies psylansky, ban and oskad. oh, sprained your back or joints, flamides gel quickly reduces inflammation and cures pain, from pain in the back and joints, flamides. espresso celebrates its tenth anniversary in 2023. we proudly present our new broadcast.

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, the avars, the circassians, well, in a word, all the peoples who inhabit the northern caucasus, to take out similar protest actions today and in the following days. well, it’s probably not possible to talk about nazism, but the fact is that dagestan is a multinational country, in dagestan there are only 24 state languages, so there are a lot of ethnic groups, it’s like, well, it’s poly -ethnic formation, as part of the russian federation, as for this psychosis of the anti-semitic people, then this is a consequence. several reasons, the first is, well, the long-term sowing of hatred through russian television, and dagestan, let me remind you, despite its multi-ethnicity, it is a very young region, where there are many strong, young men who

either need to fight somewhere, or somewhere to release their energy, since there is no particular job in this region, and as a rule, they either go to the... army somewhere, or bandit on the territory of russia, that's about it. so yesterday's events are evidence of several factors. first, in dagestan, quite popular political islam. in general, it seems to me that the russian regions have started a completely different communication with these with the awarding of awards to adam kadyror , one of the sons of the chechen leader, so to speak, in kadyrov's pubes, and it looks very strange, because it is essentially a construction

communication, horizontal between islamic , between regions with political islam, political islam in vichkeria, this is essentially the basis of the current regime, in dagestan also, by the way, therefore... in this sense, regions with political islam, they have nervousness around palestine was broadcast through the global media. and through russian tv and through its own, the fact is that these regions are quite closely connected both with the emirates and with others, with iran, that is, with many islamic regions, and this communication gave birth to another impulse to the patchwork, which is strange, that the local authorities in dagestan immediately rushed according to the instructions of the moscow fsb to hang labels that this is a special operation of the ukrainian sbu, if this is a special operation of the ukrainian sbu, then i am proud

of my special service. mr. volodymyr, please tell me, you mentioned it several times political islam, islam, what did you mean, what, what is political islam? the fact is that, in today's world, classical ideologies, well, conservatism or socialism, are useless. they are somewhat blurred, and political islam is a kind of tracing paper from christian democracy, political islam is when there is no ideology in countries, and on the basis of ideology , the postulates of islam are placed, well, let's say this, see, one of the requirements, for example, of political islam in russia is the introduction of shariat. vessels, uh, further, one more, russia seems to have already arrived

in another, uh, so to speak, in another monopoly of russia, in regions with a predominantly muslim population, uh, they are starting to prepare for the introduction of islamic banking, that is, this is another banking model, an alternative to the traditional one, where, where there is, well, interest, where interest is based, the entire profitability of banks on lending, this is a slightly different model, oriented to e, the achievement of mutual benefit, somewhere somewhere yes, but to imagine a country where two types of banking exist in parallel, this is already essentially a prerequisite for the introduction of... separatism of islamic regions, well i see, i think i understood you, mr. volodymyr, if i misunderstood

, please correct me now, it is something similar to the fact that in russia there is the russian orthodox church, the russian orthodox church, you can call it political christianity, yes, yes, the matter in the fact that the very bet on monotheism, so russian, on the russian orthodox church as the only state religion, led to a response from the islamic regions, and they , as an antithesis, started... their own identity, not around national memory, because well they very often lack the intelligence to in order to understand the historical mission of this or that nation, very often small nations try to jump under some big ideological umbrella, and islam in this sense turned out to be more than suitable for those regions that do not want to be associated with the russian orthodox church. it is clear, mr. volodymyr, look, considering the fact that i see problems in his communication

with representatives of this political islam, unfortunately he does not have problems with communication with political christianity, but there are problems with communication with one, with others, what failures are there, please tell me what putin can really fear now, well, look, one of the political technologies. reduced to a systemic, systemic controlled crisis, the kremlin believed that the crisis could be controlled, and the one who forms the scenario of the crisis, in principle, manages it, and he also benefits from controlled conflict, but controlled conflict is always, well, on that border , when it ceases to be controlled. and this controlled chaos, which russia initially created along the perimeter of its borders,

then partly within itself, this chaos gave birth to, well, several antitheses, in particular, one of the antitheses is the horizontal communication of the islamic regions, so we see that the leadership of tatarstan rewards adam. kadyrov, then er, the leadership of the north caucasian er, ethnic formations, er, also awards, that is, these are such signs of loyalty. but they don't have a kremlin , that's what, well, the interesting thing about current events is, but the fact is that 35 million muslims on the territory of russia, they have a very, well, serious system of internal communication, we, for example, we see how in moscow, ethnic groups,

developers, they can even compete with each other and arrange competitors. fights, but they all gather under mosques on the days of major muslim holidays and this is a very organized, very well-communicated community, and you are a supporter, do you share the opinion that the beginning of the end of putin and his russia can begin precisely from the north caucasus? well, there are many factors here, firstly, turkey, whose influence has grown very substantially... it started 20 years ago, first with the turkish council, and then already moved to the league of turkic states or the association of turkic states, and the fact is that precisely in russia potentially , these islamic regions, most of them are turkic, that is, when a large community

of turkic people is created, well, somewhere under 300 million, in total, then on... in in the soviet space, an alternative to the soviet ideology is essentially created, a unifying logic, this logic is ethnic, the turks understand each other without translation, what is the uniqueness, when , at one time, the russian empire in the war with the turkish empire captured central asia, she just constantly created the illusion that turkey is a great evil, this is the main, main evil. that opposes the soviet union to the russian empire, then it turned out that, in fact, the turks understand each other, well , the turkic languages, they are theirs, well, such is the mechanics of formation that the turks understand each other without translation, that is, they are not the russian quasi- slavs , who do not understand belarusians and

ukrainians, although ukrainians, in my opinion , understand almost all slavic languages ​​without translation. or poles, that's what's special, that is, russia ceases to exist integration, an integration center, and in russia there is no ideology for the post-soviet space, not even for the space of russia itself, therefore precisely the turkic regions of russia, and this is also yakutia, let me remind you, the mountainous altai, for example, that is, there is an interesting point here that this the vast territory of russia, just, well, the volga, bashkatostan and tatarstan, they, they are the most mature of all the regions of the russian federation to full statehood, that 's why, bashkartstan, nearby, by the way, dagestan is approximately the same in number as tatarstan and bashkortostan has a population of up to 5 million, and by

european standards it is a completely self-sufficient country, and chekaria has a population of about 200 million. that is, ichkeria, compared to dagestan, is so little, well, although it may have already distanced itself more from russia in spirit, dagestan is a potentially explosive territory, because, for example, there are the magomedov brothers who were white partners, medvedev and putin's security forces crushed the magomedovs, they. imprisoned them, and their influence in dagestan is great, and there are still a number of such dagestan billionaires who in in principle, well, they feel quite uncomfortable in russia , but they do not see a way out for themselves yet, mr. volodymyr, what happened yesterday in makhachkala, in your opinion, this is a one-time such event, it seems to me that it is such

a touchstone, i.e. , but now the regime has been shaken from this side, we recall that literally a week ago the regime was shaken by the announcement of putin's death, and no one saw the big tears of mass crying of millions on the territory of russia, that is, there is a feeling that puti putin died a long time ago for the russians themselves , now shook on the subject, well, the local security forces did almost nothing after such mass riots, of course they later did such a mock sweep, but in principle, the local security forces are not ready to go against the people, that is... a lot of such trial scenarios are being created now , it seems to me that now russia will be rocked by these trial scenarios every week.

and in your opinion, i read this morning that many people wrote that this did not start inside dagestan, but that it was stirred up from outside, so what do you think about this? well, hard to stir up what is not there from the outside. yeast inside society, it’s the same as what you remember, for example, russian propaganda told about cookies, from the victoriads, that the cookies of the state department suddenly forced ukrainians to revolt against yanukovych, well, we in ukraine know that cookies are the impetus for the uprising, our desire to live in the free world. dagestan is overpopulated, dagestan is very conflict-ridden. there are a lot of young people who are not involved, i.e. they are free-wheeling, they very often fall into revolutionary scenarios,

therefore, now, i think that they will try to work on dagestan, due to some external scenarios, i want to remind you that in general , dagestan fought against russia in parallel with echkeria, and this struggle did not stop even in recent years, there is a dagestan battalion in ukraine, it is so so to speak, calls itself the foundation of the future dagestan , the future dagestan army of independent dagestan. well, regarding islam , in my opinion, dagestan has both shiites and sunnis , well, the presence of shiites and sunnis, because neighboring azerbaijan, it is shiite, like iran, so due to such multi-ethnicity, dagestan is prone to internal conflicts, but at the same time, for example

, kadyrov's constant aggressiveness unites the dagestani elites, because kadyrov has been sleeping for a long time and sees the creation of a north caucasian confederation on the basis of them and swallowing the more numerous dagestan, making a satellite of mychkeria, well, in fact, the people of dagestan do not like this idea very much. mr. volodymyr, due to lack of time, i have one last question, please tell me, what will be putin's reaction now to the fact that in what is happening in dagestan? tonight, he seems to be gathering the security council, what, what can they decide? putin has several factors: to try to use the russian guard, but there is a russian guard made of ethnic russians on the territory of dagestan. well, since yesterday these units are part of the russian guard, there is also something similar there, well, there are also marines there, that is, there are military bases there, i want to remind you for 20

seconds, mr. volodymyr, 20 seconds, i want to remind you that, in my opinion, mass death, daestanis in ukraine in the war against ukraine, will give rise to exactly the wave of discontent that will make the anti-russian uprising quite successful, oh, at least it will become quite successful at... as soon as possible. mr. volodymyr, as always, thank you very much for participating in the world at war program. it was volodymyr tsibulko, a political scientist, they were talking about russia and its quick, i really hope, death as a country. well, on this, i will run out of time, i will summarize the program, today we talked about china, its influence on geopolitics, about the situation in the middle east, and about the events that took place the day before in dagestan, which is still... while it is part of russian federation. we will meet with you next monday, there will be new guests, new topics, it will be interesting as always, my name is yuriy fizar, see you soon. we are looking for

13-year-old sofiyka nikifora. the girl lived in mariupol and disappeared on the first day of the large-scale war. for almost two years , nothing is known about the fate of this child, so i really hope for your help. look at the photo and remember sofiyka's face. if suddenly someone sees the girl or you know her whereabouts, do not delay and call us on the service hotline search for magnolia children by short number 11630. calls from any ukrainian mobile operator are free, or write to the chatbot of the russian service. children in telegram. i also want to remind you that we are continuing the search for 17-year-old serhiy samoilov, who also disappeared in mariupol. his

mother said that on the first... day of the full-scale war, the city was very restless and the situation only worsened rapidly with each passing hour. the family hid in the basement from the bombings, but shelling was far from the only problem of the residents of mariupol. there was no internet, clean water, we even drank technical water from a technical tap, then only at the police, well , the whole family was fed up, he couldn't drink, they ate us. to be honest, it was very difficult, the stores were all ransacked, there was no lift, nothing, we just sat there , we wanted to, despite all the horrors, what bothered 15-year-old serhii samoilov the most was the lack of internet, which is why the boy wanted to leave mariupol. he was very interested in computers, studied programs, asked questions there develop them, create a server, and why did he actually leave home? yes,

there was no connection or internet at home, of course, there were already problems with water and food, he was going to go to pokrovsk. serhiy planned to go to his mother's acquaintance in pokrovsk, which is also donetsk region, about 200 km from mariupol, but the boy's family did not dare to leave the house, so serhiy left alone. it happened in march, at 4:00 in the evening, my grandmother and i did not let him go, because we were shooting a lot. around, well, to be honest, to us even then there was absolutely nothing to eat and drink, it was very scary, he took a backpack with him, there was a computer in it, he dressed the way young people dress, i say, seryozha, come on, i thought he was walking around the house and would come back, and seryozha left the house already, when he left, i already understood what my wife

and i had done . sergey's mother still lives in mariupol and does not lose hope of finding her son. tim sometimes serhiy's father, who has been living separately for a long time and is now in the territory controlled by ukraine, does everything possible to find serhiy. in particular , he turned to the office of the public prosecutor. i understand that they want to contact that party, and find out if there is any information on that side, because i have found out a lot. from the children to the russian territory at that moment, so now they will be contacted from that side. maybe the boy was taken to russia, but it is possible that he is still somewhere in donetsk region, so i am appealing to the residents temporarily occupied territory, who may see this program on social networks. look carefully at the photo of the child, if anyone has seen the boy after march 8 of last year, or if anyone knows where he might be now, don't delay, dial from any

ukrainian mobile phone. the operator's short number of the magnolia children's search service is 1163. calls to the hotline are free. if suddenly there is no connection, write to the chatbot of the child tracing service in telegram. any information is important. we have created a resource through which you can report about any crime against a child. in any city, at any time. just go to the site and report. we will launch all possible mechanisms to punish the criminal. stoppm ua. hello friends, this is the svitoglyad program. my name is vasyl zima, today is our last edition of the svitoglyad program. you and i have been in fact from the beginning of the full-scale

invasion until now. from the next season on the air of the tv channel, i will continue to work with espresso, but there will be other programs, other content, the big ether will remain as it should be, well, the program worldview will no longer exist, so we will try to convey our thoughts to you somewhere on facebook, tiktok, youtube, but today we still have the opportunity to talk, i will take two topics for conversation, this is vata number two, is vata returning to ukrainian politics and raises its head in ukrainian society, well, and secondly, russia, or the disintegration of the russian state from the black hundred riots, let's say, you can call what rested in makhachkala, in dagestan and what may continue further in other federal lands and the peoples who inhabit the russian federation today, we will of course start with a conversation about vata 2, or vata returns, dmytro kapranov is with us, a writer, publisher, publicist and public figure. mr. dmitry, i congratulate you. good health to everyone. good

health vasyl, glad to see you.