white yayango was in direct contact with us. thank you. and just now , oleksandr musienko, head of the center for military legal studies, joins the broadcast. alexander, good evening. how can you hear me good evening. i congratulate you. well, actually, continuing the topic of avdiivka, the possibility of the russian army storming avdiivka has been discussed for several days in a row. how realistic is this scenario, and in general, is it realistic to get avdiivka under these circumstances. well, they will storm, it must be said that the ukrainian defense forces have already completed many important tasks, because they have to to understand that the enemy's task is not simply to advance on avdiivka, this is a secondary task, the primary task is to withdraw all our forces from the south and prevent us from conducting a potentially ambitious operation on the left bank of the kherson region and advancing in

the direction of melitopol, that is, the enemy seeks to do everything to today, well, in fact , we had only one hot area on our agenda, and our troops were operating there, especially the reserve, that is why avdiivka was chosen for these attacks, it is clear that the enemy did not achieve these goals, some units were indeed redeployed, they are now helping to defend avdiyivka, especially from the northern flank and not only, but in parts we see that, let's say, some redeployment from other directions of a significant mass of ukrainian troops is not recorded, so the enemy has already failed in his plan, secondly, the fact that nevertheless, they were forced to redeploy somewhat from the lyman direction, which stopped , at least there for a certain time, the offensive actions of the russian troops, they did not reach the same, obviously, because they wanted to advance in the same way there, and then the holding of avdiyivka is

an important goal, which is carried out by our forces, to date, well, we can say quite successfully. to what extent it will be possible to hold, for what period of time, it will depend on how many more attacks the enemy will carry out, what forces will be used for this, how the operational and tactical situation will develop there, whether they will be able to close the ring they seek, i.e.... close and this, let's say, bridgehead, which goes from the north to the south of the flank, will converge, and accordingly it will depend on it, that is, only real combat actions will show, as far as our forces are able it will be possible, but i, you know, specially deliberately emphasized that and started with the fact that a lot of defense tasks have already been completed, because, well, you have to understand that really, the losses that the enemy has already suffered, and since our

forces are holding up and at the same time, they continue to perform tasks in other important directions, this is already the result of our positive and foiled plans of the enemy, in fact, regardless of how the immediate battle for avdiivka will end. you mentioned other directions, the spokesman for the ground forces, volodymyr fitok, says that russia wants to buy kupianskyi again, that's what this direction is, he is currently one of the hottest on the entire front line, well, we're just. aggravation there, they talked about it at the beginning of october, but what kind of dynamics can we talk about, a month from now, is it a question of waiting for a certain convenient moment for an attack, or is the current tactics of the russian troops understood at all, precisely in the lyman-kupyan direction , of course, to conduct offensive actions in order to advance, no dynamics are observed, you see the village of senkivka marked in yellow, this is one

from the hot areas, where the enemy uses different types of weapons as well as its own aviation , they are trying to break through there, there are no successes, in general, in this direction , we can say that the enemy has been advancing not only since the beginning of october, but also since mid- summer was perhaps up to 2 km, well, that is, they had such an advance, indeed certain successes were recorded, there were phases of escalation, and recently... another phase of escalation, when the enemy was actively attacking, but as of now, the intensity of hostilities is somewhat has decreased, the occupiers there, let's say, plan to escalate somewhere, on november 5, to go, but not in the kupinsky, but in the lymansky direction, to try to conduct offensive assault actions, but for now , what we can state is that the russian troops have no success there,

despite their... attacks, moreover, in general, the situation is such that the enemy himself notes that in the kupyan direction, they are now rather in active defense and in defense than conducting active assault offensive actions, this is due to the fact that that our forces chose a successful defense, a plus is due to the fact that the weather conditions in the end partially prevented them, and they wanted to do it, they suffered losses, therefore, despite the pressure, of the russian troops, there is no record of any significant advance by them, but what will change then until november 5, which you say, as the date of the probable, probable activation of the russian troops. it is known that it can be, in general, nothing will change from what has already happened, well, the day before, that is, this is another wave simply connected with the fact that the stormtroopers have arrived, additional reinforcements,

as the occupiers themselves call them zeks, who are waiting only to go there on the offensive and so on, well, that is, there will be a certain wave of aggravation, which has already happened before, i think that in our... the forces will also repel it, i hope, in principle, to expect that this will give progress, that is, the arrival of manpower is recorded, who have with them, with them small arms, who have grenade launchers, sometimes not even all of them have grenades for reinforcements, in order to go, especially to the districts forests, especially in district plantations, where they can go out, well lead such assault actions with these small groups, well, this can happen, there is no record of the arrival of additional numbers, equipment, or the strength of means, although , in general, the enemy plans to strengthen some of the artillery, in particular a new one developed with this coalition, a self-propelled artillery

installation, somewhere at the beginning of the year, they expect that it is possible that they will have some kind of artillery, artillery reinforcement, well , they expect a plus, there may be a regrouping and rotation of individual units in december in these directions, and yes, well, let's say that preparations are being made to suppress such actions of theirs, our defense forces know about this, and measures are being taken to counter this, let's go from the east to the south, the institute for the study of war writes that the armed forces tried to break through the defense of the russians on the left bank of the kherson region and claim that the ukrainian military allegedly holding positions in the squares near the antonivskyi highway and railway bridges. and there is no official information from the general staff, but what is the value of these positions, taking into account the huge risk for the ukrainian military, because as far as i understand, these positions are being fired at from all sides, i will tell you that there is active fighting there,

it is noticeable that the enemy, well, especially already on the left bank, the enemy is really trying to displace our forces, if we are talking about the importance of this bridgehead. then it is important from the point of view that it is an opportunity to carry out a flank attack on the defense forces, which in general would have significant consequences, it is also from the point of view that the enemy would be forced to react, to transfer his forces to remove first of all from that of the melitopol direction, consider that in the melitopol direction they are now planning to rotate individual units, especially those that have lost their combat capability, so who to transfer... to transfer units that have lost their combat capability is also good, after all, then it would give them the opportunity to spoil things with logistics and push back a separate group to crimea, so there are many, let's say, perspectives, it is clear that actions are taking place there, what is the ultimate goal of the actions

of our troops, it is difficult to say, obviously only the command knows this, but there can be two scenarios, the first is an organization bridgehead for further forcing of the dnipro. with the transfer of heavy equipment and weapons, and in order to implement all the points that i have just listed, and the second scenario is to pull back and restrain the russian units in this direction so that they do not use them in other directions, on that melitopol and berdyan were not thrown near avdiivka, but it is clear that the enemy is reacting, it is clear that they are worried about the development of the situation, because the commander changed there, russia changed, plus there, it happened before staffing, partially, more troops have approached, south of oleshok, where the russians are there, it is obvious that they are , well, let's say, somewhat worried and so nervously

watching this direction, and are trying to really squeeze out our forces, but our forces are active, plus it is underway counter-battery fighting, although it is really not easy, because it has to work... on the left bank, and of course, in order to fully conduct combat operations, you need to have air defense means and artillery. mr. oleksandr, let's go then let's remember, there are many more... questions, but you know what i want to remember, today 's statement by shoigu, he said that russian troops shot down 37 planes and six atakams missiles during this month, or rather in october, it is interesting that shoigu, on the basis of these data , immediately calculated in what period the russian army can destroy all the f-16s that ukraine will receive, let's listen, and then i will ask a question. air defense calculations are working successfully. in

the past month, they destroyed more than 1,400 means of air attack of the enemy, including 37 aircraft and six atakams operational-tactical missiles produced by the united states. i also want to note that 37 aircraft is almost twice the number that was guaranteed by the delivery of f-16 aircraft to ukraine. that is, for such work of our system. of air defense - this is about 20 days of work, this is about 20 days of work, well, considering that in march 2022, it was the 11th day, it seems, of a full-scale war, shoigu stated that literally, practically all combat-capable aviation of the kyiv regime destroyed, on the 11th day of a full-scale war, of course we will not analyze the veracity or realism of these statements now, but it is interesting to what these statements are calculated for, if these previous statements, well, surely you remember the command

that sits and listens to him, only on internal audience, only for the internal audience, exclusively, you see, in general, that there is a lot of him on tv in russia, he appears quite often, he creates information drives, he is discussed, you see, he also made statements in china, he had previously traveled to the front of it they showed, then, it’s true, how many... it passed, well, probably no more than a week, when there were 24 planes, when, as it were, they reported to him there, as if in one of the positions, now there are already 37, well, of course, only i have a question, you know , and why is russia so actively trying to search for our aviation at airfields on the territory of ukraine, launching missiles in various regions where we have airfields, well, it seems to me that this is all we see now. this is already a game on the internal audience, this is an attempt to create

the image of the extraordinary efficiency of the russian army, demonstrating shaiga, and thus, competing with another camp there, which is represented by the fsb wing, and this obviously meant something in the competition for the future for post-putin russia, because it is obvious that somewhere putin is weak, losing the levers of government and they they are already fighting among themselves, but the tag has become a lot over the past few months, on television, plus he is trying to create these informational occasions himself and openly pr, but i will tell you, this is only for the internal audience, because it can believe someone from the russian hinterland, who constantly listens to russian television, does not watch anything else, and believes everything because they are told from there, no one will believe it anymore, well, you mentioned heida, i can’t help but mention the statement from the air command forces, the armed forces, but they say that during october, russia launched

the smallest number of cruise missiles, starting in may and mostly used them in october , and shahedi, it is about six missiles that were launched, launched by russia over ukraine in of october, and among them not a single launch of kh-101, kh-55 and naval calibers , of course it is assumed that this is the russian stockpiling of missiles for winter strikes, but how big can this stockpile be and how many ballistic missiles can russia launch at the same time, and as for ballistic missiles, i will tell you that, well, not the largest number , because they keep several units of iskanders and s-300 and s-400, which are kept in the bilhorsk region and kept in the bryansk region, respectively, the bilhorsk region, the ballistics are oriented east , mainly, this kharkiv and beyond, where bryansk will become - this is kyiv region oriented here, well, mainly kyiv region, mainly kyiv, well, there is an insignificant

amount, as for other missiles, they are really accumulating, well, as far as i know, there was no significant jump, the level of readiness , the total number of kh101, kh-555 missiles available to their aviation is 160 , for today, well, plus or minus there are 160-170, well, there are 70 daggers that they are ready for use and about 60 more calibers, but that will take time accumulation, that's why they are accumulating, the goal, why is obviously preparing for missile strikes, because the reconnaissance of our facilities, obviously the goal is to create psychological pressure and carry out one or two massive attacks, well, at least 70 rockets will be used there, well, approximately plus or minus it is difficult to say how many, so that you know, to create the illusion that this will always be the case , well, but it will not always be like that, because the most optimistic data and scenarios that exist, which provide information

that, well, the maximum that russia has reached now, is 100 missiles per city. by the way, this is more production than there was around the same time period a year ago, unfortunately, it is necessary to state, that is, they really became more, circumventing sanctions, looking for opportunities, but this is not growth in some geometric progression, when we can say that now russia can attack ukraine once every 10 days with 100 missiles, 150, 200 and so on, no, there are still no such technical possibilities. heard, oleksandr, thank you very much, as always, for the interesting. oleksandr pusienko, the head of the center for military legal research, was in direct contact with us. thank you. but the ukrainian authorities promise to produce tens of thousands by the end of the year drones, and oleksandr kamyshin, minister of strategic industries, calls this direction the one that is being expanded more than others. at the same time, in russia, the same emphasis is placed on the reconnaissance of unmanned aerial vehicles

, and even former breadbaskets are being converted for their production. about the war of sods. about how it works at the front, further in the report of the nastoyasche vremya tv channel from solidar. bakhmut direction. here is the city of solidar, occupied by russian troops, and there, where there are many white dots, are the positions of russian soldiers. military servicemen from aerial reconnaissance of the 30th brigade of the armed forces of ukraine adjusts the equipment before the combat departure. this area of ​​hostilities. and so has always been very active, but over the last few days it has become even hotter here. it was an assault, yes, they found approaches there, they saw the approaches of enemy equipment and assault groups, it was a bmd bmp on which they were driving, and the guys from the infantry struck and destroyed them, the second, and then the second groups destroyed

their infantry with skirmishes, then the assaults were repulsed. oleksandr tells how the russian military... the day before, they went to storm the positions of the ukrainian infantry, the attack though repulsed, but the russian soldiers managed to enter one of the trenches, ukrainian infantrymen could have gone to relieve it, instead drones of the armed forces of ukraine flew over. it was like a means of communication between them, so we immediately decided to destroy it somehow, and thanks to the mavik, we stuck it there, reset to the mavik, and thanks to the reset , we worked off the sweat of the cable and hit that cable, then the military began to clear the trench from the air, the position was recaptured, and if the ukrainian infantry went forward, there could be losses. oleksandr says that such situations, when drones replace people increased.

i also don't want to count how many human lives it would be for our guys, because we can't measure it, it 's a lot, kamikazes can knock out all the bastards from our country, it needs to be developed, the more, the better, as practice shows, this year if we were only engaged in reconnaissance, then we are destroying the equipment right now. oleksandr says that the russian military is also paying a lot of attention to drone attacks. very strong, very strong, they fly too, they are a lot of drones, kamikaze, there are a lot of them, but this does not prevent us from kicking them out of this land. dmytro and volodymyr are responsible for the technical component of small unmanned aerial vehicles, including making bombs, joking that experience from childhood helped. well, i played more with matches , here, er, a whistle into the asphalt, you hammer a little, covered the matches, hit a brick on top,

it creaked, now that the works are reset. you remember childhood, i remember what i liked in childhood, now i regret that this knowledge came in handy. understanding the power and efficiency of drones, drone pilots on both sides of the front have become priority targets that everyone is hunting for - say the military. yes, they hunt, as well, this is also the number one goal for us. knock out competitors. the sbu and the national police are conducting massive searches in the alatra organization, which calls itself an international social movement. this morning was reported by several media at once, citing sources in

law enforcement agencies. rfe/rl received confirmation from the security service of ukraine and the national police regarding the investigation, while they noted that they would be ready to provide official comments only tomorrow. for the previous one information, law enforcement officers suspect that alatram works in the interests of the russian federation and systematically promotes kremlin narratives among ukrainians. i noted that previously people's deputy inna sofson wrote that members of the sect arranged telebridges with russia, to which they invited deputies from united russia. and the people of alatri comment on the torture and murders in buchi at their events with the words, we kill each other. well, just now inna sovsun, a people's deputy from the voice faction , is in direct contact with us. inna, good evening. thank you for joining. good evening, sorry about the car, eh, thank you for finding the opportunity, let's first understand , here is alatra and this charitable society, they are

one and the same, because there is a lot of talk about the rebranding of alatra, that is, the big boards of the charitable society can now be seen, and latru as such is not, as you actually argued your request to the authorities, i know that you applied, indeed, when i first came across the history of this organization, through a personal story that was told to me by a friend, whose friend, accordingly, got into this organization, and at first i also asked the same question that you asked, i say look , it does not say that it is the alatra organization, they have this rebranded charity society, but if you go to their website and dig deeper, you you already see mentions of alatra, firstly they appear, secondly they are the same media resources, they are the same people, so it becomes clear that it is actually the same organization that apparently carried out this rebranding, because in in previous years there were several journalistic ones as well

investigations that pointed to this organization's ties to russia and pointed out directly that this organization was promoting such kremlin narratives, and obviously on the back of that they did some sort of rebranding, but really, to show that these are the same people , including mr. danilov, whom you are currently showing on the screen, it was not really so, it was difficult, so in principle there is no doubt that this is one and the same organization that has been operating in ukraine since the 12th year, and you they also wrote about involvement in this sect, yes so to speak, many representatives of the authorities, some refuted such information, some did not, there is not only the central government, but also the local one, and if, as you say, you dig around on this site on youtube, there are a lot of public axes, representatives show business people go to visit them, or they did, yes, but what kind of phenomenon is this in general . and what are the scales of involvement of ukrainians in this organization? and look, the scale of involvement is very difficult to estimate, but you are right that it is real

involved a lot of people, they were involved in most of what we can see in public, giving various kinds of interviews, and whether they were directly members of the organization or not, it has to be checked on a case-by-case basis, but now you are actually showing yes, screenshot from the video. which are on their resources, and actually one of the first screenshots that you showed is a screenshot from an interview with the deputy prime minister, mrs. iryna vereshchuk, who was the only one who publicly denied that she belonged to this organization, but honestly, did not object very convincing, and unfortunately without sufficient corroboration, because i am from reliable sources, and here i can say with absolute certainty that she herself was involved in the organization, and did not just happen to come to this one. and i know for sure that her husband, who by the way held a very important position in the security service of ukraine, was the deputy commander of alpha in the security service

of ukraine, he definitely belonged to this organization, and i know this, well, including from representatives of the security service from the inside, which confirmed it to me long before this story became public, who said that he was unashamedly walking with the badge of this organization to the work of the security service, so when ms. iryna says what they were talking about, it's just some kind of interview, or she denies that she is in any kind of relationship at all to her, well, this is definitely not true, and at the very least, it is necessary to explain her husband's involvement in this organization, unfortunately, she does not do this, and that is why i still hope that law enforcement agencies will give an answer here. mrs. inno, well, here it is, we just saw the screenshots, about which you mentioned, there are mainly, let's do good, talk about good, and all this goes under the brand of such and such. in all respects, what is the danger of this organization, why did they pay attention to it in general?

what is the danger, well, on a personal level, what this organization does to people, it actually pulls people out of their usual circle of communication, and after i wrote about it on social networks and began to communicate publicly, i was approached a lot of people, there are whole organizations that unite the victims of this organization, and it is not those who became members of the organization, yes, and these are those relatives whose children or wives, men got into this organization, and i observed in their stories the same pattern of behavior - this is when people... after getting into this organization, stop any -what kind of contacts you have with your family, with friends, with loved ones, and that is why it is, of course, a tragedy on such a personal level, which i have heard several of these stories already from relatives and loved ones, those who got there, but in the political sensei, there is a danger here, more systemic than that lies in the narratives that they promote, and here are the ideas, including one of the screenshots that you showed, this is literally a recent advertisement that appeared in kyiv, this one,

actually, about a world without war. well, you understand, this is not a world in which ukraine won, this is a world without war, it actually repeats stories and narratives one by one, and come forward in the 14th year, they are not there, not for russia, they are simply against the war, but, here , this, this is basically the same thing, the same can be said about their other ideas, which they promoted even earlier, about the importance of slavic unity, well, excuse me, there is one country that promotes slavic unity, and this is the same country that would ukrainian cities, this is russia, yes, they are in their books, which can appear completely, well, inadequate, in some places , because they also talk about the fact that the world was taken over by reptiloids, i'm not kidding, this is unfortunately part of their official, let's say, propaganda, and they say that the only way to get rid of the reptiloids who have taken over the world is with words' yansky union and the leader of the slavic union named nomo, whose biography is one in

one coincides with putin's biography, you see, that's all, when i first read it all, i thought it was all so inadequate that people couldn't believe it, but then i saw that in fact the number of people involved in it , much more than we could even imagine, to the point where i was riding the subway there, i saw people sitting on the subway, watching their videos, and i see a lot of advertising around the city, which has now appeared during over the past few months, evidence that they have clearly stepped up for some reason and, most importantly , it's actually a much bigger story than it might seem if you just listen to the snippets of what they're promoting. mrs. ino, how do you assess the possibility of law enforcement officers to prove their involvement with the kremlin, and actually, what can the state, deputies do at the legislative level, how is it regulated? look, regarding the law enforcement officers, in fact, before leaving public communication, it is true, of course, i addressed them with parliamentary appeals and asked if they

first knew about this... organization, or they are investigating her, and the security service confirmed to me that they have been investigating the activities of the alatra organization since the 21st year, by the way, at the same time, mrs. veryshchuk's husband held a certain position in the security service of ukraine. i can't say that he could or could not influence whether the investigation would take place or not, but the fact is, this coincidence definitely needs to be explained, but in any case, despite the fact that the investigation continued from the 21st year, there were no public results, i also know that the police investigated, not in the questions, there connections with russia, first of all, first of all because of the complaints of the victims, and those whose relatives got into this organization, and they investigated, well, first of all, because of fraud, because of those who were skilled in this direction, they investigated the activities, and and again, these investigations lasted for years, and victims' organizations told me that they were there

, well, depending on personal stories, well, there , someone wrote statements to the police a year, someone two, someone three years ago, but unfortunately, it is not had no results. that's what now they publicly came out with some kind of action, but i can't say whether it was provoked by communication on my part and my appeals or not, well, at least there is such a coincidence, and we can record it, but in any case, what we we definitely expect, this is the first thing, this is the completion of this investigation, bringing it to court with... the closure of this organization, it should be stopped completely in ukraine. second, to clearly show who funded it, what were the sources of funding for this organization, and whether there was funding from russia, and of course, to punish the leaders of this organization, who organized all this, but it is also very important, of course, after that to take care of the people who became victims of this.