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that the neighbors handed over eight ukrainian soldiers dressed in civilian clothes to the fsb of russia. my colleague halyna tereshchuk heard the story of one of the thousands of ukrainian immigrants whose life was changed by the war. if you have seen a picture somewhere of mariupol, let's say it was there in the 20th year, the 21st year of mariupol, then whether anyone came there, well, it was already an unrecognizable city, and the city center, there are fountains, there is a fairy tale , there was a fairy tale, yes, but now everything is broken there, i was already leaving, so i left, the war started with us on the 24th, the border, and i was still at home until the 27th, on the 27th in our house an airplane missile hit, i was just in the bedroom facing the west
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side and i heard planes flying, shooting, the shock wave broke all the doors, windows, everything, well, in all the apartments, well, i almost threw myself out, how i was there i would have stood half a step ahead, i would probably have flown from the eighth floor, faster than i thought, people all went to the basement at once, because the age was already beating on the door there, the frosts were up to 8° at night, and how evil it is, april, march, the month and day eight times a day of frost, seven or eight times of frost, no snow, frost pressure and everything, well, we lived in the basement there for 35 days, in the first days of the war there was no bread, count that there was no bread, so what did you eat there, well, who had what, what did i have potatoes was in boxes on the loggia, there are boxes.
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such a one for 100 km, and the window was broken, the frost at night, the potatoes all froze, so did the people, there were cereals, pasta, everything was carried from the house to the basement, all the clothes were there, all the pillows were there, everything that could be covered, the door so that it wouldn't blow, it wouldn't seep through, there were also drafts, the problem was with bread, water, and we didn't even think about meat there, that is, there was no water there, nothing, nothing. the water was blocked, what was there, even in the batteries, everything was sitting, because food had to be cooked, and why did we even need a burning system , and then we sat there with water, a little cereal of some kind, which, well, we will say 200 grams of that soup, yes let's say, in the morning they ate this soup, in the evening they drank tea and that's all, and here they are in hunger for a whole month, yes.
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there were about 70 people in our house, probably 70 in the basement , and i was already the chairman of the house committee in this building we had 144 apartments in a house with 144 apartments, many of them immediately left as soon as the war started on the same day , and my daughter already stayed behind and they left in the first days of april, i say, let's go with us, i say , where am i going, the apartment here is broken, i need to put it in order, it’s raining there and so on , the windows were blown down, everything was falling on the door, i ’m walking, the entrance door, the one in my apartment vomited so much, the door was, well, a shock by the wave, there at the same time, i say, i won’t go anywhere, i say, i won’t do anything yet,
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it was also possible to walk around the city, but it was not possible, because it was still dangerous there, and they were shooting and so on, the corpses of mariupol, i say that there , if you look like that, i looked, people were hanging from trees, and torn bodies , and so and so, well, i think there are 10,100, well, no fewer of our people died there, it was dangerous to walk there, i didn’t go, i thought i would build an apartment for myself and i had to run away from here until... the police did not come, the russian guard, well , then the police are busy, then they are already busy, and everyone there already knew that i was a bendira, western ukraine, i would be the first to be handed over and, on the sixth , april 6, i already went to the checkpoint, went, took kravchuchka, there a bag, suitcases, a bag and so on, i took the gut.
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we had to walk 2 km to the checkpoint, and after the checkpoint the buses were already approaching, taking us to nikolskyi, there the russians were already in charge of the vavsia , the first time we drove six checkpoints, we were not missed anywhere, not only that we were not missed, we were already in manguzh they didn't want to start, we'll spend the night in the field and so on, the mankush was wow, well, i already had to leave, but he came, i say, so and so you, zvinni, i'm also a former soldier, i understand that you have orders, but we can't spend the night in the field, they didn't let us go, they just really didn't let us go, i understood, but i don't expect it. that putin is going to ukraine, and i will definitely come back, definitely, i remind you that you are watching the svoboda ranok project, and further on in our broadcast, do not miss it, the spouse confirmed that he will run for president and even
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presented the pre-election program, ex - adviser to the office of the president of ukraine, oleksiy aristovych , suggests demanding that the collective event join nato with an obligation not to to recapture by occupation. at the time of the entry of the territory, and to achieve their return only by political means, it was a direct quote. who are such statements aimed at and how should they be treated in wartime, when elections, the authorities say, are impossible. us president joe biden will veto the republicans' budget bill on aid to israel, which will not include funds to support ukraine, the media reported with reference to the white house. what are the chances that ukraine will get what was promised, and by whom, in the end, the united states will be the last a word to help ukraine. i remind you about your likes and comments, they are very important to promote quality content on the network, so please. the press service of the hamas group said at least 195 palestinians were killed
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as a result of two strikes in two consecutive days on the largest refugee camp in the gaza strip. jabalia. according to their data, 120 people are considered missing, more than 700 are injured. aljazeera, citing the head of a nearby hospital, reports that as a result of yesterday's attack at least 50 people died. similar data is provided by the guardian publication. according to journalists, one of the video recordings from the impact site shows the bodies of at least 47 dead people. a representative of the israel defense forces confirmed to cnn that the strike was carried out by the israeli military. it explained that its fighter jets struck the hamas command and control complex in jabalia, based on intelligence. in killing the head of the anti-tank and missile unit of the islamist group hamas. un human rights officials said that the strikes on the camp could be military a crime, given the high number of civilian casualties and the scale of destruction following israeli attacks. the day before, the evacuation of foreign citizens from the gas sector began, which the parties
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could not agree on for three weeks. reuters writes that at least 320 foreign nationals, from an initial list of fifty people, crossed the border into egypt through the rafah crossing, according to an agreement between israel, egypt and hamas, the crossing should remain open today, a diplomatic source told reuters that about 7,500 foreigners will be able to leave the gas sector in about two weeks. foreigners are evacuated in alphabetical order by the name of the country. the ukrainian ambassador to egypt exclusively told us the day before that the evacuation of citizens of ukraine has not yet begun. well, the new speaker of the house of representatives. congress of the united states of america, republican mike johnson declares that he supports providing aid to ukraine, but the politician is against combining it with money for israel. he said this at a meeting with republicans, poliiko reports. journalists write that johnson made it clear to his colleagues that he supports
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financing ukraine in the fight against russian aggression, even if it will differ in scope from the one sought by the president of the united states, joe biden. in addition, the speaker of the house of representatives. wants to combine aid to ukraine with strengthening the southern borders of the united states with mexico. another republican senator, roger marshall, said that if speaker johnson wanted to combine aid to israel and ukraine into one package, it would cause a riot in his caucus and probably was the bane of the speakership. the politician cites such a quote in his article. mike johnson writes that the publication considers the issue of israel and the issue of ukraine and the american border with mexico as two separate discussions. opposite. opinions in the administration of president biden, us joe biden, deputy secretary of state lees allen in an interview with radio liberty stated that the separate consideration by congress of aid packages for ukraine and israel does not correspond to geopolitical realities. she also added that the administration will continue, actually to convince congress, to combine aid
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to ukraine and israel. aid associations lobbied, as did secretary of state blinken and the us secretary of defense, lloyd austin. the president of the united states, joe biden, submitted a new request to the congress on october 20: to finance support for israel and ukraine. the request includes more than 61 billion in aid to ukraine and 14 billion in aid to israel. and already yesterday it became known that the american leader is preparing a budget bill. republicans regarding aid to israel, which will not have funds for aid to ukraine. this law does not consider humanitarian aid to the population of gaza and aid to ukraine and allies in the indo-pacific region, the white house administrative and budget board said. this is also an important topic that we want to discuss in more detail on the air. vladyslav faraponov, head of the institute of american studies, analyst of internews ukraine, joins our broadcast. i welcome you. good morning, congratulations. please tell me why you think the republicans. it is so important to divide the aid package between ukraine and israel, that is, in fact, what are the main, how
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to say it, contradictions and why it should be divided according to the republicans, well, look, the main idea now is that what the new speaker of the house of representatives, johnson, said, which means that israel supposedly needs help now and very quickly, and with regard to ukraine, we still have to get there with ... agreement, we must consider many more issues , in particular, these are the issues that have already started to be heard even more from the side of the republicans, that is, what is the strategy of the white house regarding the support of ukraine in the war, when it can end and so on, what kind of weapons should be specifically provided to ukraine so that it won and so on, that is, these are such and such moments, but we must understand that it really... can drag out the process, and in fact , this convocation of the congress has until
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november 17 to make a new or intermediate or main decision on financing of the government, i.e. in terms of the budget and accordingly there is not much time left, because there was no speaker for three weeks, and accordingly the chamber could not adopt anything, that is why there is such a really short timeline for us, that is why the administration is insisting that, so that these two packets of eyes were combined into one, and in the hearings two days ago in the senatorial committee on appropriations, that is, the allocation of funds, and the minister of defense lloydin and anthony blinken, the secretary of state, they explained to the senators that these two wars, they are very closely related , both in nature and in its consequences, which is why the administration wants... so that the legislators pass this in a single package, and what do you think
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is the higher priority for the united states, america, now, helping israel or help ukraine, or even aid to israel and ukraine, simply if biden has already decided that the aid should be this way and not less, then conditionally the republicans want to reduce the amount of money that the states can give to ukraine, well, look, the administration really thinks , and this basically suggests. stupidity and already institutional memory regarding aid to ukraine and earlier aid to israel, that the united states can help both ukraine and israel at the same time, and there is really no need to be offended at the american lawmakers who want to help there israel, but this does not mean that they will do it only at the expense of ukraine, yes , that is, this is precisely the main point, in principle, i think that it is clearly a priority. and help to ukraine and israel, and it is also important to understand that since
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a lot of effort from the point of view of policy making has already been spent on helping ukraine, on constantly responding to ukrainian needs, therefore , accordingly, the biden administration can no longer simply give up and say that there, from november 1, we will stop funding aid to ukraine, and that means, keep doing it, as you want without us , that is, it won't happen either, because... in fact, the reputation of the biden administration is also at stake in russia's war against ukraine, so everything is very, very connected here, and again, the administration understands that israel needs it now aid to ukraine, in the hearings there, again in the senate committee , for example, the republicans asked lloyd austin if we do not provide this aid, will ukraine lose, he said that he will surely lose if we do not provide , aid, after all, this
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aid to ukraine is already oriented towards the whole the 24th calendar year, so this is quite a large package of aid, so clearly, i think that there is no exaggeration, as they say, that without this aid we really risk actually losing, and please tell me how do you think how much smaller can be the amount that... the republicans are ready to allocate to ukraine, is it possible that their discussions, among other things, revolve around the fact that they want to fully control and understand where exactly the money allocated to ukraine goes, if we remember all the previous remarks. in particular, which were in relation to support of ukraine from the side of the republican party, well, look, in fact, as they say, this is stated by those who really do not follow what the american government is doing, we must understand in this context that there is a government, yes, there, which, now consists of democrats, and there are republicans who, as they say, want
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to become this government, yes, so accordingly, they do not announce that, for example, inspections are being carried out. or last fall, for example, those who monitor the implementation of aid even intended to organize an audit, weapons, almost on the demarcation line, that is, it shows that there is a lot of trust in the ukrainian side, which can ensure security up to this point, and accordingly, it means that everything else has already been checked and everything is okay, and not a single american legislator, nor a republican , no democrat, the one who was in kyiv. after returning to the united states, no one said that there are such and such serious problems, we should not help anymore, because it means that these are the problems we found, by no means, on the contrary, i understand that everyone was shown and told how happens and aid oversight, although it's very difficult, especially there close to the dividing line, yes, and so on, so as they say,
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the question here is that the republicans are using that argument, but really... these inspections, they already are held and held last year, and this year only intensified, yes , so there is nothing new here, as they say, but the republicans, on the eve of the elections, as they say, they should criticize the administration, that is, if the administration helps ukraine, then it means , they should criticize the administration for that let's strengthen even more, strengthen oversight of aid, but in this context we also need to realize that the facility for greater accountability, this does not mean calls for an end to aid, it is, on the contrary , a way to increase aid, that is, if the republicans also see that aid goes as intended, then they will no longer have this argument to say that let's reduce aid, and let's wait, let's discuss and so on, that is , on the contrary, greater accountability is the key to
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increasing the amount and variety of aid, sir vladyslav, we still have a minute to finish, the question will be about, how do you assess who is currently lobbying more strongly, their own interests among the american political community, israel or ukraine? well, look, there is such a connotative thesis that the israeli lobby really plays a big role there, i will say that the israeli to american aid to israel and the israeli lobby is simply a more experienced and, as they say, longer-lasting part, therefore, accordingly, it has already formed a certain institutional memory for generations that one must help... israel, in principle, we are also on this path, that is, we are also gradually moving to such rhetoric, but simply because of time, as they say, this is, in principle, we have half the experience of receiving american bilateral aid, so here it is quite logical that for now and israel is really, as they say, when it is needed, yes, it is more and faster and more active, but
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we are also not far behind, i think that in many ways we can even overtake israel from the point of view of advocacy, namely receiving bilateral aid from of the united states. i thank you for this analysis, i will remind you, vladyslav faraponov, head of the institute of american studies, analyst of internews ukraine, guest of our broadcast, we talked about us aid to ukraine and israel. ex-advisor to the head of the president's office, oleksiy aristovych, is running for election. he published on his telegram channel the so-called pre-election program, which was already mentioned in zmi, and in a comment by interfax ukraine. reiterated his intention to run for office in the next presidential elections, if they take place. according to him, the pre-election program will be finalized by specialists, already published theses are a subject for discussion. there are 14 items in the list of proposals. the ex-advisor proposes reforms in various spheres of social life, political, military, economic and others. in particular, joining nato with the obligation
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not to reconquer the territories occupied at the time of joining, but to return them diplomatically, this was a direct quote, or a transition to defense at the front or a change in the mobilization system and reform of the law enforcement agencies of the ministry of internal affairs, the security service of ukraine, and the judicial system. this program was criticized by users in social networks, in particular, the followers of the arrestee themselves. they they called it too populist. she was also criticized by public figures. for example, the president of the kyiv school of economics, tymofiy mylovnov, considered the economic points and positively assessed only the tax reform proposal, and called it unfeasible. let me remind you that until january 2023, oleksiy aristovych was an adviser to the head of the president's office, he was fired after it was publicly assumed that a missile hit a house in dnipro on january 14, allegedly due to the operation of the ukrainian air defense system. ra aristovych repeatedly got into scandals. in particular, he was criticized for proposing to rename ukraine to ukraine rus. he also called lgbt representatives deviant, made
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sexist statements about women. the next presidential election in ukraine should be held in the spring of 2024, although the law of ukraine on the legal regime of martial law expressly prohibits holding elections during martial law. in addition , the society perceives the idea of ​​holding elections during the war ambiguously. the last survey. the kyiv international institute of sociology showed that 81% of ukrainians are against elections during the war. it must be said right away that this is a very interesting and such a debatable topic, specifically about these statements of arestovych, we want to discuss it and we invited a guest of our broadcast for this conversation, this is mykola davydyuk, a political scientist. i congratulate you, mr. mykola. good day, congratulations. thank you for finding the opportunity, the time to join, but why this one, who is already called in zmi before. aristovych's election program appeared just now and how should one react to it, what do you think, because in essence the war means that the election are impossible, and the constitution says that
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elections in wartime are impossible. well, you know, anything is possible for a villager, and the only thing is that he is now in poland, and he is clearly not busy with the war, clearly not busy with what is happening here, but after the criticism of public activists, for the first time he publicly started collecting money to help the front, do not communicate with russians. with my favorite feygin, latynina, there pyankovsky, best friends from kindergarten, first started helping the army, well , you see, i think i wouldn’t responded, i don't see it in this , well, he wrote some column there, or there is a telegram post in the russian kremlin telegram, well, he didn't write, honestly, it doesn't matter, what matters now is what the industrious economist wrote, there are five points and an appeal to the west look for new weapons, you find new weapons to win, if speaking for the aristov, then this is a story, from my side, and now it is not a story about the evidence base, whether there is a journalistic investigation or some other investigation,
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it looks simple , that zelensky agreed with by aristovych's sponsors, create an artificial competitor whom zelensky must beat in the first round and be guaranteed to win, because most of all, those military personnel who can win him will not go there, because they are engaged in war and victory. some of the political competitors who work there in various fields, that is, the political opposition, political volunteering, political, i don’t know, populism, they won’t go, or they have no chance of winning over zelensky, and according to the plot, you can’t win without a competitor, then they will say that the elections are illegitimate, the elections are one-shot, how did you win with one candidate, and then there is no point in holding elections if you have only one candidate, and everything is clear, yes, it’s just that the candidate himself has to... redo the term again for five years, accordingly, he needs a competitor, and for some reason it seems to me from the outside that the agreement is precisely with mr. yarestovych's investor, about
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whom the deputies themselves spread a lot of gossip, well, this is simply creating such an artificial candidate, who in six months to he ran out of the elections , well, he ran until march just to become a candidate, they gossip there that like no, we already have a summons for him in the office, something else is waiting there. well, they would really like to, they would have given it much earlier, well, secondly, they understand that by giving the subpoena, they will only create an additional pore, because this webcam of aristovych will go inside and will tell some other things there, so i think that now so from the side that, well, again, what do all these points that he wrote mean, i am not there i agree with mr. mylovan, there are normal things there, well, for example, these points themselves are very similar to everything that zelensky went to the elections with, well, for example, education reform, well, what's bad? whether there is help for investors, tax and customs benefits, well, what is bad, or there are many others, it is so clear that it is like
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zelensky for everything good, against everything bad, mr. mykola, but we will stop at the points separately, but you made up, one thing, in fact, which i would like to continue in theses, but if we are talking about, from your words, in particular, it becomes clear that arestovych could be a project of the president's office in order for zelensky to win during the first round of elections, and you mentioned sponsors. i don’t know who these sponsors of mr. aristovych actually are, who these people are, former sponsors, maybe there are opposition platforms for life, because very often analysts also attribute the fact that the detainee can gather in himself those supporters that he has in particular political, you say, among politicians there are already some rumors about who it could be, here you are can you tell us who it could be, i think it's better to ask the deputies, well , again, i didn't socialize there and i don't hang around in these government quarters, but the deputies... say that it could be some big oligarch who, as you say, financed opoblog, yanukovych and many other things, the only thing is that this oligarch never started anyone himself, and usually all the projects
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he undertook, they failed, so in this case. the prospect of a potential russian party, namely the event of the party will be as payment for this so-called unsuccessful election campaign, which will be successful, then the parliamentary one and they will allow to start a friendly opposition party, yes, that's right, such friendly parties, opposition parties, this oligarch will do very badly, but what if we talk about the technology itself, at one time this technology was invented for mitterrand, then it was scaled up by jacques segel... the frenchman thought, but then segelatsev successfully sold it to yeltsin, but when they beat the communists in the second round, well, it is clear that after that that was all russians successfully sold to kuchma when they revived the communist party, and then kuchma won brilliantly, that means in the second round of this communist petro simonyanin and actually became president for the second time, well, a similar story from the 70s
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from france and the 90s from ukraine, zelskyi decided to revive with a pro-russian arrestee who grew up ideologically on feygin, who grew up precisely on dugin, and on mrs. arestovych is indeed very popular among ukrainians, he has been repeatedly included in these various ratings, and there his youtube channel, subscription to telegram channels testify to this. we still have about two minutes left, i would like to hear your analysis about what you think, whether individual items can be a conditional attempt to measure the temperature of society, for example , about the fact that a collective event would somehow have there, i don't know how to commit to taking ukraine into the alliance, and not to win back the territory by military means, but by diplomatic means, those that are currently occupied, but in this context, how can this statement and this point be understood, well, again, this is not a statement
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, it's just that he agrees with kissinger's point. if the west is ready to do this, it should warn ukraine, because simply saying, you are there, living in the regime of this, the first world war, but we do not give you the prospect of joining nato, and because as russia asks to recognize the occupation of the territories, well this does not suit us, if they are ready to raise issues and give clear tools for diplomatic conquest, because look, here but it is also important for the audience. when they say that diplomatic conquest without specifics is powdering the brains and fondling the eyes, it means that there is nothing behind it. when they say diplomatic return and they give you five points, but no more than how to do it realistically , and we agree that it's realistic, then yes, then we can talk, because uh, well, let's say so, if kissinger is talking about it and gives points, then i am ready to believe in it and the prospect of joining nato,
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for example, in a year and we will already be able to bring there, and the admission commission documents, okay, and if we they say, well, in the next 10-20 years, it may join until the 30th year, well, then you will never join , then russia again throws two or three ballistic missiles at kyiv, the war starts again and nothing happens again, you understand, so if this is a guarantee becomes kissinger and the western elites, who really, well, listen, guarantee the security of saudi arabia, the saudi who cut people , dissolved them with acid and poured sewers, if they guarantee him, then what they can’t guarantee us, they can, it’s just necessary that our elites sent them a corresponding message too, the fight against corruption, personnel policy, stop stealing jackets, time is limited, but i thank you for joining in, a really important analysis in the context of this topic, mykola davydiuk, a political scientist from our broadcast, we talked about aristovych's statements about whether or not he will run for president of ukraine if elections are held. this is the svoboda ranok project, as always at this time we talk about the most important things, my name is oleg galiv, take care
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of yourself and with you. see you on the broadcast tomorrow. hello, it's 10 o'clock on the clock, which means it's time of news in eteri espresso, kateryna shiropoyas works with you in the studio. all morning, the enemy shelled the mykolaiv region, in particular, the occupiers fired artillery at ochakov, damaged high-rise buildings, private houses, the power grid and a gas pipeline, there was a gas leak, the regional military administration said. the russians also raided the settlement of lymany, where the power grid was damaged. previously, people were not injured. in dnipropetrovsk region.

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