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the topic of what to expect from this winter, as you may have also seen, a high-profile publication where one of the unnamed employees of the president's office says that they expect even more shelling. than even last winter, but this time , he says, no one will apologize to us and they will say that you did not prepare well, what do you think about it, as in particular the ex-minister of energy, well, look, what to expect, it is difficult to say, so what is here many factors, well, first of all, what will the winter be like, well, if it is abnormally cold, then the situation is the same, if it is warm, then it is clear that we will pass it. we will pass, more or less, without any such complex difficulties, such big ones, well, from

the point of view of preparation, well, first of all, there are three factors that characterize the state of preparation for winter - this is, first of all, the availability of personnel , highly qualified equipment that will prepare... and fuel, well as for the personnel, we cannot have any problems here, although, although there are a lot of energy workers, they are now at the front, on advanced, but the companies are so equipped, as far as equipment is concerned, well, they did the maximum they could, although i think they could have done... there may be more, why didn't they do it, well, first of all, there are objective factors, so what was damaged, we know, in general, somewhere around 30-40% of all, equipment

, objects, infrastructure, energy objects, and some equipment cannot be restored there in two, three, even six months, and that , that could be restored... most of it has been restored, which means it has been repaired, but a lot has not been done, that's why that there was a lack of funds, firstly, the energy industry received, but not enough, we know why, because firstly, the energy market has a very large amount of debt, there, it is tens of billions, one company owed another, energoatom, ukroenergo, ukrenergo, to the generators there, to the distribution companies, and unfortunately, this issue ... is not resolved until today, and secondly, the 579 loans did not work and it is clear that the level of payments is not sufficient, and the volume of released

electricity has also decreased significantly, so the energy sector do not receive funds, but today, the equipment is sufficient to balance the demand and supply, this is the first, but we enter without a margin of safety, without the necessary reserves, both for generating capacities and for substations, therefore, it depends on what kind of winter it will be and secondly, what degree, degree , defense in our country, as far as these objects are... protected, and we know that air defense was being prepared, and there were meetings of ministers , there were meetings of leaders who, first of all, paid attention to the need for additional

air defense systems, exclusively for energy facilities, well, what is the current state, it is clear that you and i do not know about it, well, we hope that the protection will be strengthened, and it depends on the mass of attacks, missile, drone attacks on these energy facilities and even if and such strengthening, the anti-air defense system, if there are such significantly larger and massive attacks, then it is clear that there may be damage, and therefore we must be prepared for the fact that we will also have an emergency shutdown schedule and we must be ready to so that there will be no electricity and for a short period of time there for... several hours

a day, or maybe for a week, or maybe for two, until the energy companies restore the objects that will be damaged or destroyed, well it is definitely winter, we must, definitely, we must be ready for various scenarios of the development of events, there is another risk, a risk, in particular of effective management, of corruption. the risk of relations with russia, in particular, and you know, recently asked one of the deputies of queteria, just as we were discussing the issue of as a baby, a newly created service to combat economic crime, a bureau and , here the largest restaurant business in ukraine was shaking, namely lviv, lviv fest, because they use fopi there to minimize payroll taxes, which they have

... well, less so, i asked, well, okay, but where would you be, if you were the head, the manager, where would you direct your efforts, first of all, she said, without a moment's hesitation, energy, energoatom, and all of them appeared here as well history, literally last year's publications of yuri nikolov, in particular, who is now known throughout the country, and maybe even not only in our country, in particular, incriminating publications about procurement, the ministry of defense, which in the end... cost mr. reznikov his position, and he has also a huge publication from last year about who the current minister of energy, mr. galushchenko, herman is, about his connections, in particular with andriy derkach, who is recognized as a traitor to ukraine, and about the fact that galushchenko's entire team worked in one way or another with derkachem, and these are all people, approximately, somewhere his teams, do you see any danger in this, corruption risks, in your opinion, what do you say about it?

uh, well, i've said this many times already, uh, well, unfortunately , in our country, there are energy issues, uh, this situation happens every time the president, uh, and uh, on the next day, there, in a week, the entire leadership of the energy complex changes, starting with the minister, company managers and ending with directors, there power plants and so on, and unfortunately, our energy sector is politicized, it has always been like that , and after the last presidential election, unfortunately, everything was repeated and the leadership was changed, including the energoata, the entire upper echelon there was

dismissed and appointed new people. and even before the start of the war, the activities of the ministry and energoat and several other companies caused such, well, i am surprised by their actions, and here you can mention a lot, and the construction of a repository for spent nuclear fuel, and now there is already a scandal when there company, it is accused of 150 million gr. although i think there is much more , do you remember those stories about the purchase of electricity from russia and belarus on the eve of the war, when we all said, what do we need this electricity for, we don't need it, we are destroying our own energy complex, no, it was bought on a regular schedule, speakers were paid in ukrainian, he asked not to do that, not to support lukashenka's regime, he introduces a law that

was completely unrelated to these issues, he introduces an amendment that allows the purchase of russian electricity, and they work to this day, and in general the energy complex today is not coordinated or managed, i say many times that they work like partisans, camps, that's the energy, and it has its own strategies, remember, we we are building 12 reactors or 19 with 1,000 nuclear reactors each, then we are building these modular e reactors, there are 40 of them, and so on and so forth. and fantasies and the like, and and and barges, you can talk about it a lot, a lot, unfortunately, no conclusions are drawn, they are these people, they work to today, in the eyes of politicians, including the management of the ministry of energy, when

they did not let them in, they said why should you go to the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, even though it was already occupied, the management of energy. atom and the ministry say no, don't worry, we are monitoring the situation at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant, there are four power units operating there and we sell electricity for export, well, how can we control the power plant, which is nuclear zaporizhzhia, which is occupied, well, they assured us that everything is fine , calm down, that's all well and so on, and there are a lot of such examples, as far as corruption is concerned, then, well, i can't... now blame, there are relevant bodies that should deal with it, but, i don't see, today such, well, if the works, well, if it were a matter of substance on these issues, yes, there are some cases where they are engaged in, but

, unfortunately, this is electricity trading, which for a year in advance at low prices, especially of state-owned companies, we remember let's go to the center, the debts there are immeasurable, they just sold electricity, well, at that price at a low price, that there is no profit, no cost price, no cost cost to speak of, and we know that in four years, six managers of this energy center changed there, and this company today , unfortunately, is not prepared for the heating... zone, there are a lot of questions, i think that there are corruption, and organizational, and all of them, because the energy complex today, well, if, look, today there is a decision-making center for energy, it is the office of the president, mr.

shurma , yes, we know everything, but where is the center responsibility, there is no responsibility center in the president's office, all decisions are made there. and where is the responsibility, the responsibility should be in the government, and we feel that the government has responsibility, we do not feel who from the government deals with energy, well, the prime minister, sometimes convenes some meetings, and the president collects energy rates, yes, what is there here is the energy rate of the supreme energy rate, the rate is rising, they raise the rates, they raise the rates all the time or not, i hope they gathered there and raised the rates, well, that's probably why. well, well, i don’t know, it’s clear that it doesn’t contribute to preparing for the heated season and passing, look how much, how much, the debt, the level of debt, it’s tens of billions, there, ukrenergo owes 50 billion,

energoat 40 billion, tell me in recent years , who is dealing with this issue in order to solve these debts, is not dealing, the government is not dealing, nobody is dealing, the verkhovna rada, the relevant committee is not dealing, and they, they, they are building up, building up, they will shut down this energy , so i, if we do, i finish, as far as fuel is concerned, then, the third, the third factor, we have gas, thank god, today there are 15, i think there are already more, there are up to 16 billion cubic meters of gas, that is quite enough. and i can give an example, we remember what happened in naftogaz , how many scandals there were, salaries, these managers, they made statements, there was no gas, default and so on, then they appointed a manager, cherneshov, that's all, the situation stabilized , this

is an example of how the situation can be stabilized in the energy state companies, so even today we have enough and there are no worries here maybe by the volume of gas, we need 12-13 billion, and we have more than 15, and as for coal, the situation here is very difficult, we need somewhere one and a half to 1.8 billion, we have, 1.8 million tons, we we have 100 million, and the stock is decreasing, yes, detek buys in poland, in other companies, but this is not enough , why, and because it is what state company, and who, and who manages tsenterenergo, do you know who is the energy company today head of the state property fund, please tell me where the fund is, the property, and where is the power center, a powerful power plant

a company that is changing, and so on, there are a lot of questions here, and unfortunately, if we take the technical part there with the people, then in principle the energy complex is more or less ready, but if we take the financial sector, then the energy sector is absolutely not ready for autumn-winter maxima, and management quality. you know, i always remember the words of oleg prokhorenko, you can treat him in different ways, but the fact that the minus turned into a plus, thanks to the leadership, is an absolute, undeniable fact, remember, he was taken from the business, he seems to have worked for a large american international company, and how much they discussed his salary of 4,000 hryvnias per month, that this is an incredible salary, and we will not pay that much to anyone in our life, this is a person who earned more in business, of course, but he said very well then phrase, he said that the problem is not even that someone steals money, you wrote him a salary of 10,000, he then steals a million for himself, you say, the problem is that he,

in order to serve the scheme from which he steals for himself million, he spends so much on it time, that he doesn't have the balls to run the company, and these are golden words, but i wanted to say one more thing . she can afford it, and according to the idea she should give online and she does, her debts have not been paid since last year and since this year the spring of this year has not yet been paid, at the same time we read that someone who is not clear what status, but definitely responsible for everything energy, namely rostislav shurma, for example, his family business receives 380 million uah in compensation for the energy they produced in the occupied territory and gave to the russian energy system. how do you comment on this, we literally have two minutes left, well, look , i am not sure, first of all, what they gave to the russian energy system, because

the occupied territories after they are occupied, we do not disconnect these territories from the ukrainian energy system, this is, firstly, secondly, even if this electricity and and and got into the ukrainian energy system, why does this power plant , which is in the occupied... he also asks, and there is another question, a question of conflict of interests, a banal conflict of interests, can a person manage the energy industry, if his brother has a huge energy business, you know, i worked as a minister in three governments, so there was a lot. many questions

there were questions, this is the 99th year, the fifth, the sixth and so on, but eh, energy, it was managed, it was, it was coordinated, it was impossible that every company, they work like partisan camps, not only with from an organizational point of view, but also from a financial point of view, he has the money, he does what he wants with it, and he doesn't pay attention, but you know what... the problem is that we have a national regulatory commission in the electric power industry, which should be, well , it cannot be completely independent, but it should to regulate it, she fully complies with all the instructions of the office, the president, and they raised this, this main body, which, which should coordinate it, and therefore, and that is why we have such a situation, unfortunately, unfortunately, she, she is not. .. good, to put it mildly, in the energy complex of ukraine, thank you, thank you, mr. ivan, ivan plachko, the former minister of fuel and energy, was with us, the chairman of the council

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