[000:00:00;00] that there are no good plans here, just as a phenomenon that needs to be discussed, this is the creation of the city military administration, the appointment of the head of the city military administration of sumy, they say that a rigid vertical from kyiv is immediately activated here and in fact such a phenomenon as self-government is taken away, is it possible say, is it possible to consider this issue differently, and if there was already a meeting with the head of the city administration, is there any understanding to expect from the work and activities of this newly created body? well look, yesterday the president really introduced the city military administration in sumy by his decree, appointed oleksiy drazdenko to lead this administration, he is a well-known person to me, he is a candidate of physical sciences from sumy state university, he worked there and defended his thesis, he worked there

as deputy dean, dean, then... in the summer , it seems, this year he was appointed deputy head of the sumy regional military state administration, and now he has been appointed to manage the city, well, against the background of the fact that everyone remembers this news from soums, as the current mayor oleksandr lysenko and the director of the infrastructure department oleksandr zhurba were detained on suspicion of receiving a bribe of more than uah 2 million, then lysenko was removed from office by the decision of the higher court, that is, he cannot perform his duties now, plus the situation is complicated by the fact that we did not have a secretary of the city council, that is, he is elected , but mobilized in the zsu and cannot accordingly fulfill his duties, the deputies recently elected a new secretary after

lytsenko was suspended by a court decision, but he became the head of the servant of the people faction, but, according to sources, we no longer have official information, but there is information from several independent sources that after a conversation with the head of the regional administration, the newly elected secretary did not accept the position, that is, he was actually elected, but i didn't take the position anyway, i'll just explain for the audience that the secretary of the city council, he performs the duties of the mayor in terms of conducting the council meeting, that is, the mayor has the executive part of his duties. mandatory, he heads the executive there is a vertical structure of power in the city, conducting a meeting of the city council, now after the president introduced a military administration in sumy, well, you can say that democracy has ended, that is, in fact, all elected authorities, the city council, the mayor, they have ceased to function, now the appointed authority, he can, the head

of the administration can divide the budget with his own signature, i.e. not according to the procedure councils, a group is specially formed, it is submitted there first to the budget committee, to public hearings, then to the session hall , deputies can make proposals to it, the mayor can make proposals there, well, many people can, that is, now this entire democratic procedure ceases to apply and, well, it's actually so convenient. and if i don't have any, let's say, reservations about oleksiy drezenenko's personnel, then, well, about manual control, let's say, i look at it with caution, you know, knowing that, knowing the history the sumy, the latest one, and how actually the community, the local government, the community, the self-organization, saved the sumy at the beginning of a full-scale invasion, of course, well, it's a legendary story, i think it should be

continued, anyway... thank you thank you, mr. andrii, andriy kramchenkov, the editor-in-chief of the social sum news , was in touch with us, we talked about the security and political situation in this important border region, and now we will talk about equally important things with serhiy zgurets, the director of the defense agency and the host column military summaries of the day. sergey, congratulations. i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers. christmas is still a long way off, but we have already received a gift from santa claus or santa scholz from germany, what kind of help is it from germany, how important and necessary it is, sooner, but will it be some kind of packages from other countries, or is germany here, as it were they say, it goes alone, please, well, i think that this is not the last package from germany before christmas, because these packages are regularly transferred military aid, by the way, now germany, in my opinion, is the leader in the supply of military aid to ukraine, given the size of its economy and the contribution is even more than the contribution of the united states, and

the extreme package includes... new radars for air defense systems that were transferred earlier, armored personnel carriers, drones, sea and air, sets of winter forms, combat systems, combat drones. that is, this is such a normal and effective package, which, of course, will be needed by our armed forces. and later in our column we will talk about the interview with the british publication, commander-in-chief of the armed forces valery zaluzhny and about his modern positional war and how to win in it, as well as whether our defense enterprises finally managed to get out of the trap created by the state audit service, because this cycle of absurdity continues for the seventh month in a row. more on that in a moment.

the war with russia is entering a new phase and is turning into a positional one, because de facto both sides have reached the level of technology that has driven ukraine to a dead end on the battlefield with equal opportunities for the current time, but this state of affairs carries huge risks for the ukrainian army and our state, because it allows russia to restore its potential and threaten the existence of ukraine again. so now our military needs a new technological leap. this is what economist valery zaluzhnyi actually says in an interview with the publication. and this interview really has an emotional component and an extremely realistic view of things that no one else has. he simply could not express anything other than what was necessary in view of his position and the amount of information about the state of affairs at the front. he says that there will most likely not be a deep and beautiful breakthrough, and in the context

offensive, but the war cannot be allowed to settle in the trenches, the biggest risk of the trench war is that it can drag on and exhaust the ukrainian state - says zaluzhny. and what to do then? so along with the interview. the economist also published such and his great essay entitled modern positional war and how to win in it? the full text in translation is already available on the website of the ministry of defense, this is such a rather important work, because it touches on the key areas of confrontation with the enemy and determines the directions on how to get out of the pitfalls of this protracted war of attrition. so, according to zaluzhnyi, ukraine needs the first, air superiority , it is not so much manned aircraft as drones of various purposes, of various quantities, the second is improved means of radio-electronic warfare, the third is enhanced counter-battery capabilities, the fourth is new

demining technologies, the fifth is opportunities to mobilize and qualitatively train more people, each of these five directions is painted on the basis of the current state and projects from the review. what the enemy has and will have, and what he already has us, and what we still need to do. the underlying belief is that this war cannot be won with weapons of the past generation and outdated methods. he says that the longer the war goes on, the harder it will be to continue it. so we need to look for technological solutions, we need to find this new gunpowder, as the tinkerer says, quickly master it and use it for a quick victory. because otherwise sooner or later we will discover that we simply do not have enough people to fight - says valery zaluzhnyi. so, now, as far as i'm concerned, this is a new realized point for the crystallization of a new one

ukraine's strategy regarding the vision of the war for the near and medium-term perspective and corresponding actions and plans based on a more realistic perception of threats and our capabilities. and now we are joined by mykhailo samus, this is the head of the analytical organization, as well as the deputy director of the center for research on the army, conversion and disarmament, mr. mykhailo, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, mr. serhiy, i congratulate you, how would you estimate the time of appearance of this interview, valery zaluzhny, and the very content of this conceptual work called modern positional war, and how to win in it, can it be considered that really , as i hope, maybe i am wrong, that it can become such, well, the point of a new crystallization in the formation of a new strategy of countering

the enemy, and maybe somewhat release a couple of these excessive expectations, which were associated with a certain such extended spectrum of expectations, in which a part of our population fell into a trap, what do you think about this? well, actually, this is not the first time that general zaluzhnyi has published such an article, it was about a year ago when general zaluzhnyi, with co-authors, and in principle also resorted to such a public discussion regarding plans for the next year, plans regarding the continuation of the war, and then the article was of a different direction, then general zaluzhnyi clearly outlined what resources are needed in order to achieve success in the 23rd year, and this article is actually a continuation and, let's say, a summing up of the results of the 23rd year, with the recognition of the mistakes that were...' made, he directly says that

the calculations were not justified in relation to the offensive, and precisely those calculations, which were set out in part in the previous article, regarding quantity tanks, armored vehicles, airplanes and so on, of course, that then our defensive, western partners did not provide everything, the equipment that was described in the previous article is still in use, but now there is a clear transformation of the views of the general himself, he now looks at the war in a different way, and precisely those weapons of the 20th century that he, about which he spoke in the last article, are now taking a back seat, and obviously he is talking about a technological breakthrough, that is , he says: so that russia does not drag us into the same positional war, this is the main thing russia's task during the 24th year is to prevent ukraine from breaking through on the southern front, freeze the front and then, when... they wait for trump in the kremlin, offer

him the concept that look, there is no point in helping ukraine, the front is deadlocked, so let's stop the aid ukraine and we will force kyiv to sign some new treaty like minsk-3, we have the opposite task, to prevent involvement in the opposition war, for this we need a technological breakthrough, general zaluzhny defines several priorities, which, at the expense of what mo can achieve this technological breakthrough, they are actually known, this is air superiority , of course, this is reb intelligence, counter-battery systems, automated control systems, and of course drones, various modifications, classifications of the use of artificial intelligence, but it goes even further , talking about the fact that in fact we have almost reached or will reach in these areas. well, for example, in the air, when

the f16s arrive, obviously we will have a certain parity, that is, he says that we have achieved parity with russia, or will achieve parity, and for a breakthrough we need to combine everything we have, and just find this gunpowder, that is, find some new approaches, well, for example, the use of artificial intelligence, when we talk about the use of swarms, drones, kamikaze or the same scouts, drones and so on. that is, he means that it is necessary to go further, to look further, and perhaps i am anticipating your question, but what is the difference between these two articles that caught my eye, and the first article, after all , was more about addressing the western allies, obviously we couldn't a year ago pretend that we will take tanks, hundreds of tanks, armored vehicles, and artillery systems from somewhere other than our western allies.

millions of ammunition, now it seems to me that after all, general zaluzhnyi appeals more to the ukrainian nation, to ukrainian engineers, to ukrainian statesmen, to ukrainian aitishniks, the military, and so on, that it is we who must combine these technologies that were given to us on the one hand allies, on the other hand, we already have our own improvements, and precisely due to the combination and integration of technologies, we will achieve that technological breakthrough, that is, this article is still more from us than from western partners. mr. mykhailo, then a question arises. conventionally speaking, there are five directions, each of the directions is technological and complex, and each of these directions, in order to have an effect on the battlefield, it must be either scalable, or let's say integrated with the others, and then the question arises timeframes for this kind of scaling and this kind of integration, we're talking about weeks, months or years, because conventionally speaking, that means if it's remote, then

it is necessary to change the system or management, or the intensification of these processes in ukraine, then the role of other ministries must surely be more dynamic, or meet the needs that general zaluzhnyi speaks about, which is absolutely true, that is, based on the fact that he is addressing precisely the ukrainians, and not to the western partners, he thanks the western partners and says that of course without their help we could not be, in fact, in the situation we are now. in parity with the russians, with russia, which mathematically, well, absolutely prevails over everyone indicators ukraine, but fortunately, answering your question, fortunately we already have acute issues this year , well, for example, the acceleration of the adoption of a specific type of weaponry for the armed forces of ukraine has already been done, it has been done sometimes in crisis mode, sometimes through , as they say, not thanks to, on the contrary, breaking the system, but at first such a locomotive

became the ministry of digital transformation, which created such a bryvan platform, then the aksele platform was created in the armed forces, which in principle is aimed at to reduce the time of evaluation and testing and adoption of a particular type of weapons or some technology from months or years, as it was before, to literally days and weeks, and this is already a big step forward, because well, actually, if we talk, discuss it the issue with our, especially european partners , the situation is a little different for the americans, for the europeans the process of developing a certain type of weapon and adopting it for use by the armed forces can literally drag on for years and sometimes decades and when they are told that we are now talking about the fact that within days some processes will already be carried out and that the samples will already begin to be in specific military units in order

to be tested and then scaled up as quickly as possible, for them this is some other reality, that is, in ukraine there is it is already possible to expand those solutions and those mechanisms that were found this year in order to achieve a quick result in the next year, of course, this requires concentration and the maximum, maximum improvement of those bureaucratic systems, which still remain in us, it does not evaporate so quickly, it is all around us, and thanks only to the fact that such are created, that is , the old system is not modernized, i noticed that where there is modernization of the old system, there ... not very bright, let's say this, it is gradual, but not bright, and where new systems are created, absolutely parallel to the existing, progressive ones, there is a result that can really impress, so i have hope that after all , this ecosystem will be created, where it will take and the ministry of strategic industry will clearly

understand its role in supporting r&d and just investing, budgeting for scaling, because mini. the ministry of defense, even if it says that we are adopting this model, some kind of equipment or weapons, it cannot scale, in principle quickly, but the ministry of strategic industry could just be engaged in scaling production and bringing it to series very quickly and individual samples and systems and technologies, so of course there should be, again a discussion is possible, how to organize this system of integration, joint work... of defense, mimstratigprom, ministries of other structures, in order to bring it to some kind , well, not ideal, of course, but to some kind of super-efficient work, because we only say super-efficient work, because it is simply efficient, i think we is no longer satisfactory, mr. mykhailo, you are talking about the fact that one way or another this article is aimed at our designers,

engineers, it is true, because in this article there are things that still need to be refined there, in particular, the use of jet engines there for demining. or there high-pressure water there for demining, that is, such things have not yet been worked out , but they should be an impetus for our designers, to generate ideas that will really be effective, but there has already been a reaction to the essays and to this article in foreign publications by foreign experts, who otherwise, they will influence european and american politicians, and then i have a question: can it not be considered that these are certain messages for, for example, the same american side that asks us what is your strategy, if there is a strategy, will there be money yes, the strategy of victory is that there are five directions, help with these directions, there will be victory, can i assume that this will also be an element that will affect the americans and europeans to look at the situation on the front line in a different way and see your role in this process in a different way, well, absolutely, i don’t know if it’s a coincidence

, but the date of publication is just perfect, well, we saw a publication in time, where there was an absolutely different image of reality, depressing, zelensky alone, he, only he believes in victory, and the generals, including, well, as i understand it, zuluzhny have already turned their backs on him, and the publication of this article, it really gives a completely different understanding, this is a very western, civilized approach, when the commander-in-chief of the armed forces brings such things to public discussion problematic issues that he begins to discuss with civil society, with experts, with journalists, with politicians, and i believe that this should absolutely impress, not only americans, but also all representatives of western civilization, let's say this, with regard to the americans, they are going through a difficult political period right now, and just this week and representatives

of the administration, we saw that both austin and blinkin held such briefings in the congress, and in the congress itself, very difficult, difficult such things are happening campaign about lobbying ukraine, and explaining why russia cannot be allowed to win, why a defeat for ukraine will mean a geopolitical defeat, a global defeat for the united states, and i hope that this article, which, in addition to such general talk about preventing the victory of russia, because it will lead to the strengthening of the axis of evil, in particular, the article by zaluzhnyi clearly lays out that in ukraine the command of the armed forces of ukraine, and obviously the commander-in-chief, that is, there is no division here, as in the article tim, they clearly understand the situation and not no. .. just general strokes, but specific directions, specific technologies that ukraine needs in order to achieve the same victory, so i

think that the article just turned out perfectly, to be honest, i didn’t even expect that it would be done this way, and , maybe you noticed, there are actually three materials, one large such academic, another more in such a magazine format, and the third even more emotional in the format of an interview. released, that is, such a complex system work, i don't know if this is a coincidence or if it is so, really professionally worked out, but i think that it is for the understanding of the united states congress, and maybe even in the american society, if it is explained by the mass media quite intensively, it will lead to a strengthening of the position of ukraine and precisely this package support for ukraine, which is currently being discussed together with israel's, it will be approved and it will allow the implementation of the ideas that general zaluzhny is talking about. mr. mykhailo, thank you very much for your professional and qualitative comments

, for your time, and i would like to remind our viewers that the creso fil was mykhailo samus - he is the head of the english organization research network, as well as the deputy director of the army, conversion and disarmament research center. and then about our defense industry, because valery zaluzhnyk also mentions our defense-industrial complex in his work and says that there is important in the development of our enterprises, in particular those that produce asymmetric weapons, develop missile weapons, at this time these enterprises themselves are in a trap, because this situation is still in effect due to the conclusions of the state audit service, where in fact these enterprises, and there, and kbb luch and others, which manufacture much- needed weapons, are now forced to respond to alleged accusations. in the fact that they do not rationally use the profits, especially since these profits were not specified in this

resolution, and now the question arises as to what to do next this bureaucratic red tape has been going on for, it seems, the sixth month in a row, and now at the current stage, we will talk with our next guest, vitaliy nemylostyviy will join us, he is the head of the all-ukrainian association of employers of machine builders of ukraine, ukraine. mr. vitaly, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear you. greetings to you and your viewers. just yesterday, there was a meeting of representatives of private enterprises, the national association of ukrainian industrialists, a number of defense enterprises, which had talks with the new team of the ministry of defense, where this topic related to profits was again discussed, this story, which was made by the conclusions of the state audit service, which is now actually inhibiting the work of defense enterprises, what was achieved in talking with

representatives of the ministry of defense, does the new team understand the problems that decisions made? you know, actually there was a meeting with the deputy minister of defense, who is responsible for this area, we did not meet with the whole team, it was very constructive, it was very constructive... deputy minister of defense confirmed the position of the ministry of defense, which was actually from the first day of the dasu inspection, this story has been going on for more than a year, unfortunately, and from the first day the ministry of defense took a normal position that enterprises have the right to make a profit, moreover, it was the ministry of defense that submitted to the court, with, let's say, not agreeing with the conclusions of the state audit service, there was simply approval of, let's say, another draft of the government's resolution, which, well, as it seems, for

today, finally, this issue will decide if it is submitted by the ministry of defense, coordinate it with other ministries, and the government will accept it, although from our point of view, even this should not be done, all the laws of ukraine allow enterprises to make a profit, several government resolutions that came into effect with the beginning of full-scale bargaining and currently in operation , they also allow us to make a profit, there are clarifications from the ministry of economy separately for das, separately for the ministry of defense, which confirm the position that enterprises have the right to make a profit, for us personally, that is i personally think that dasu should have retracted his act and apologized to everyone a long time ago, well, in fact, but they do this, but unfortunately they don't

do it, so the government executes the decree supremely. the council, which was adopted by 306 votes, is now developing another, let's say, resolution, as they say in the people to smear with butter, that enterprises have the right to make a profit, there are already two draft resolutions, there are decisions of the parliament, there are a number of appeals to the prime ministers -minister, and in fact they speak colloquially speaking about spirit, law and the spirit of the rules, and dasu speaks of the letter, if in this resolution the word there does not indicate profit. that means there should be no profit, manager daso, i saw her explanation, she says, this is a requirement of the constitution, relatively speaking, we, it is not, the law has no retroactive effect, in any case, let the legal conflict be resolved by the relevant authorities, and the head of the parliamentary committee says that this is really a mistake, that’s how it happened, you know, the head of the state audit service is deceitful, in several directions,

first of all, yes, this resolution really does not the word profit, but in the current ones... the word profit is in the other two regulations and there is legal science that says: if an entrepreneur is prohibited by one act of the government, while others are allowed, then he has the right to do what he is allowed to do, and no court can't deny it, it's firstly, secondly, retroactively, by the way , the 335 resolution in question was passed last march, and its effect is in effect, and its... effect was applied from 24 in february, also retroactively, and at that time no one had any, shall we say, contradictions, that this cannot be done, i can give you examples of hundreds of documents that are accepted in the same way, the question is that the law was in force and all the laws that were in force at that time are still in force today, and then you, mr. natalia, then the question arises the question is, on the basis of what did the dbbr or

other bodies begin to open cases against... the rectors, in particular against the fire engine, yes, that is, on the basis of what then? on the basis of the act of the state audit service, i want to tell you that today we already have examples when counter -inspections come on the basis of this act and instructions of the state audit service, for example, for enterprises and demand to hand over the drawings to them, i repeat the design documentation, for example, for missiles, to our question, why... they keep the drawings and design documentation for the employees of some regional office, so far there is no normal answer, they want to check the availability of production facilities at enterprises that have been bombed twice, they want to see what is left of those

enterprises that have not yet been bombed, all this is not there, let's say so, the authority of the state audit service, but for some reason... this is happening, why is this happening, we already have an agreement, we are sending all these materials, they are signed by certain officials, all these things that i am telling you about, we are all this we are sending, today i had a verbal communication with the head of the national security and defense committee, he said send us these papers, we are sending them to other special bodies, let them figure out why the state audit service is interested in secret drawings, for example, mr. vitaly, thank you very much for yours. professional comments, i think that we will continue to follow this extremely important topic, and i will remind our viewers that the filchrono was vitaly nemilostiv, he is the head of the all-ukrainian association of employers of machine builders of ukraine, and then the broadcast will continue to broadcast news and international and