[000:00:00;00] paternet and we have paternet, who invented such communication, yermak’s system, podolyak, the president’s office in our country runs the state today, they did, they hacked the parliamentary presidential state and turned it into an office presidential state, that’s all, that’s all that ’s happening, that’s all consequences, and when the article from which article that came out in time, it showed the weakness of today's government, the same days, without even reading the article, seeing the photo, at first they began to advertise it, the same yermak. yes, this very article, and then they started reading, oh, right there not about that, and let's remove her from the recommendation, what is that, what kind of nonsense, and i will say, because they thought, how they awarded the boy with an order, they think, well, that's it, we bought ourselves a journalist, now everything will be fine, but i will tell you that russian manipulative things , they first give a free dose, and then they hit the very painful place, like in drug addicts, you know , they plant, first the first dose is free, the second is also almost free, and then

who pays? pays with money, someone pays with health, so in this situation it is the same it looks like today's article is for the economist, it showed very scary things, and this was also confirmed by podolyak, i will just tell you the theses that podolyak said, that here zelensky there demands the implementation of decisions by 70-80%, that he reacts harshly to this, that, that, he only talks about one thing, about the instability of the president, and here i have questions, as a citizen of ukraine, whether... he can manage the state, being in such an unstable psychological state, you look, the supreme commander in time of war, even during martial law, he manages all processes through the post of the supreme commander , according to the law of ukraine, the post should include the head of the general staff, shaptala, he is not there, but there is the president’s secretary in the form of yermak, well, i don’t care i call this position because it is not even a civil servant,

he is not why. does not answer, but only on his command stefanchuk will sign the delegation of the people's deputy, this is not usurpation of power, what putin did for 20 years, zelenskyy managed to do in four, somewhere like that, he did everything with our country, today i thank god that we and our boys, brothers, that they at least continue to finish what i did not have time to do, and you and i in the information field have to gnaw all these things and tell the fools that they are fools, and the smart ones, so that they... don't forget that there is a war going on today. i don't want to offend anyone today, but we have both. sir, the instinct of self-preservation has disappeared in the authorities, they do not understand what is happening, they do not want to nothing to change, everything suits them, but we are dying, zelskyi's warm bath is today filled with warm ukrainian blood. mr. igor, it is clear that zelenskyy is giving an interview there, to simon shuster, which is part of it, or

comments on this large text that was published in the influential american publication time, but well, obviously, ukrainian tv viewers, ukrainian voters and, in general, everyone those who now live in ukraine, they feel betrayed, because there is a single national telethon that tells one thing and shows a completely different picture, and on the other on one side is the american edition of time, which says, listen, well, in general, he feels betrayed, almost betrayed, zelensky, and in general it is a disaster, because no one is reacting now the way they reacted a year ago, when he was in the united states of america, to him there they didn't give a word in the congress, and that is also a big problem, isn't it time for zelski to talk seriously with the people, with the people, and first of all with the political leaders, because we

don't see this dialogue, there is a m... parliament, there are leaders of political parties who were elected before of the verkhovna rada, to whom the people entrusted the representation in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, but in a year and 8 months, or nine months already, we have not seen such a dialogue where people discuss the future of ukraine, and the present, most importantly the present , because the future of ukraine depends on the present? first, podolyan deals with communications and formation... of the editorial policy of the entire single marathon and, so to speak, the structures belonging to it. yes, this is the same political technologist who was once thrown out of belarus for criticizing lukashenka for the allegedly weak connection with russia. that is, a person worked in the interests of russia. this is the same separatist who, in the interests of russia, quarreled georgians with russians, russians with georgians, and thus was very happy that everything was successful there and the war started. he was one of those elements. and what do you want to say

today. does he work in the interests of ukraine? no, they put the president in a warm bath, and he's already used to that warm bath, i've already emphasized, but the second thing they did, they believed that because of hacking all... the information field, sharpening it to praise the great leader , they will try to raise his ratings, and it worked, for a while it worked, because we did not engage in criticism or anything, we did not want to, if you look at it ukrainians in the spring of 22 year to criticize the government, only 20% believed that it is possible to do it, well, there are 20 with a penny, but the majority said that no, we need to unite and so on, and the opposition and everyone said , it is necessary to unite. but you will understand what it means for zelennyi to share some share of power, when you sharpen all power under the corruption component, then you consider it as if someone wants to take money from you, and as one criminal said, every dollar, every dollar of mine in

someone else's pocket, i consider as a personal insult, somewhere yes, today the president's office lives by this principle, they think that when they start talking to adults, to those who understand, that it is supposed that some kind of money flow will surely break out of them , because they... they this they will not do it, they will not share power, they have no instinct for self-preservation at all, we all understand that elections cannot be held, that is clear, i do not want to draw attention to this, i talked about it a lot on my youtube channel, but but , then what to do then, if you can’t hold elections, well, we have an elected position , it’s the president and deputies, yes, of different ranks, but nevertheless, it’s not so many people, but the army, or something, change the army officials, then the burden of corruption will be lifted from you, but they don't want to do this, so they are in the dark and in the dark, that's all, that's why i say, they have no instinct for self-preservation at all, they still haven't understood that if

this pixel strip bursts, then they won't be there either , we remember the economist article, yes, they steal like there's no tomorrow, that's how some people comment on this story, they don't steal like that. i apologize in advance, that's why, that's why you understand, all these theses, they all have a basis, because people see it all, that's why they won't have it, they will not establish communication with society, you understand, some say, i was told here, oh, let zelenskyy go to the journalists, answer uncomfortable questions, but he will not answer and will not come, because he has nothing to answer, he needs to to answer inconvenient questions, at least to know, but what now, what are people interested in? well, relatively speaking, he would meet, i ’m speaking so figuratively now, he would meet with rudenko, well, okay, maybe with lapin, because lapin are very tough, but rudenko is still journalist, and said, listen, serhiy, please tell me, here’s me blinking , here’s a lapin, that one blinks, that one blinks, why are they blinking me, i’m

good and fluffy, norudenko will say, look, i own it, that’s the problem, that’s the problem, this is the problem, they are not solved, they do not report to you about it, because they are afraid to tell you about it, and it needs to be solved, and it would be normal, but zelensky comes out and says: you stop writing about corruption, that's all, well what to talk about next? he is not going to fight corruption, he just wants to they kept quiet about it, and people don't want to keep quiet anymore, and russia, by the way, also plays very strongly on this, the russians today activated the entire agent network in various publishing houses and in ukraine, including in the offices, so that money flows start moving, let this scandalous topic of corruption go on, which actually suspends aid to ukraine, because the republicans are starting to say their own, well and so on, these are all links of the same chain, they don't think about it, they are rowing like there is no tomorrow, because in principles, they

they believe that if it doesn't happen tomorrow, they will lose money, well, they forgot that not only israel could create the mossad, that's right , i said briefly, thank you, mr. major, for the conversation, it was igor lapin, a major of the armed forces of ukraine, a special officer of the people. deputy of ukraine of the eighth convocation. friends, we are working live on telekanaluso, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently following us on these platforms. please subscribe to our youtube and facebook pages, as well like this video. you can take our survey, today we ask you whether you need to read the whole truth about the war with russia, yes, no, or your option, please write in the comments. under this video, further on we have a diplomat, permanent representative of ukraine , the united nations in 2004-2020, volodymyr yelchenko, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today,

good evening, sir sergey, mr. volodymyr, we are already with my guests, with iryna gerashchenko and ihor lapin, they talked about the publications that appeared in two prestigious international publications in the magazine time and the economist. in the first edition , zelenskyi commented on the situation in ukraine, but the text belongs to the american journalist simon shust. the text of valery zaluzhnyi, the head of the armed forces of ukraine, was published, and both of them say that, in principle, the situation is now quite difficult in ukraine, and in particular at the front, because a positional war, well, a trench war, is starting, simply put, what conclusions should one draw from what has been made public the world and most importantly, whether will do, well, of course, these two publications, they will draw attention to themselves, they have already

drawn attention to the whole world, but you know, for example, i listened to , for example, just today, such an interesting webinar online, where they participated, well, this is what the atlantic council conducts, an american organization, as well as a ukrainian, ukrainian-rican business chancellery or business council, there was a joint event, where distinguished people spoke, for example, mercy kapturs. the head of the friendship group with ukraine in the us congress, er, and several former us ambassadors in kyiv, er, and in their comments, you know, i didn't feel such drama, well, that is, they consider that, well, it's less worth it, let's say, to pay attention to what is written in the media, although we should here... take into account the fact that, after all,

in the economist magazine , it was an interview of a hard worker, that is, it is not an article, it is an interview , that is, his own thoughts, and thus , well, it is possible, it was a column, i will clarify, mr. volodymyr, it was a column, yes, yes, it is such a peculiar the author's material, mr. shuster's article, it is, well, more literary, although there are many references, although, well, some persons are named first it's the president's turn... zelenskyi, and some are not named, and we already hear that we have a whole such, well, a whole exchange of opinions, so who is this source of information, unknown, different names are called, well, i don't want to comment on it, i think that everyone, everyone is following this discussion here, well, i repeat once again that, well, i cannot speak for the entire western world, let alone for the entire world in general, but if you consider those thoughts , which i heard,

well, from such far from average americans, and those americans who are accepted by ukraine, know our topic very deeply, they do not hide the fact that the situation is indeed more complicated than it was there six months or a year ago, but by no means, these publications will not affect in terms of, say, a reduction in aid from the united states to ukraine, or understanding understanding that ukraine should be helped, because there is a public opinion poll, well, for example, the very respectable ambassador john hurps , who was the ambassador in kyiv, the american ambassador in kyiv, well, in such possibly the most difficult years, let's say of our modern times, no counting

of course the current war, he... thinks that uh, here is the first half of this article in timeime, which says that there was such a cold atmosphere, that our president was not received as warmly as he was a year later, and that everything things have changed and that is not how ukraine is perceived, he says that this is not true, er, he communicates with many congressmen and senators, other politicians, american ones, he says that he personally did not experience this. although indeed, during the visit of our president to the congress and his meeting with the senators there were really asked, well, maybe not very pleasant questions, but it was a frank conversation and, in principle, our president answered the questions that were asked, and then, the process continued, we now know that there are already some demands, well, let's say

congressmen who are asking that president biden, before they start voting on the ukrainian aid package, to give answers to a whole series of questions, but not in the sense that if he doesn't, then they won't, let's say, vote for this package, but they simply want to better understand where the money goes, what is the goal, what goals does ukraine set for itself, so this is all our homework, we have to do it all. but i repeat once again, here is my conclusion from this broadcast that i watched and i participated in this discussion, online, i concluded that a little bit... well , let's say, our emotions are running high about the article in timeime, well, zaluzhnyi’s article is the opposite, but it doesn’t seem quite fair to me, that is, you know, if the americans themselves perceive it differently, then we must understand

that all these publications, we are talking about american editions, that is, they are primarily aimed not at the ukrainian reader, or even at the russian one, at the american and western readers, so they are perceived in a completely different way, and that is why i think we need to calm down a little now and do our own thing, so that publications do not win the war, the state department of the white house is talking about the fact that the request for financing ukraine will pass both houses of congress, and the united states of america has not lost attention to the need to support ukraine, let's listen to what he said matthew miller, state department. as before, it is important that the united states stands by to help ukraine defend itself against these horrific attacks that russia has launched and continues to launch against them. and we believe that in practice, if funding for ukraine is put to a vote, it will be approved by both

houses of congress. in no case did we lose attention to the need to support ukraine. that's why you saw the president. delivered a speech in the oval office about our support for ukraine. we will continue to stay focused on it. of course, it is important to receive this aid, which matthew miller is talking about, because we are talking about a large amount and the approval of the budget of more than 60 billion dollars, it is part of ukraine and this aid package goes together with the military aid of israel. and it is clear that the united states of america wants more control over this money, they want to better understand what zelensky's plan of action is, because the republicans signed the letter and they demand a more detailed description of what will happen and where this money will go. how will this money be

to be used in your opinion, in this case, the kremlin sources that i will share are influential. information and psychological special operations, the material of these ipso, that there is a very high level of corruption in ukraine, that these weapons, as putin said, fall into the territory of the russian federation, then, someone steals there, there is something else, where did the americans get the feeling that that it is necessary to control the ukrainians more , well, you know, first of all, no one has stopped... those, those measures, these kinds of influence that russia exerts on the american continent, it is already known about this a long time ago, perhaps now control over this has become much greater, well, after such behavior of shameful, aggressive russia, by which i mean not only the war in ukraine, or aggression against us, but also what russia has done on

the territory of the united states, this interference in the elections earlier, and all kinds of such, you know, measures in this direction. to the humiliation of the americans, and in general , the atmosphere that currently prevails in the territory of russia, such anti-americanism, it already, you know, reminds of the best times of the former soviet union, if not worse, well and this surge of anti-semitism that we are currently observing in russia, and it is not only the makhachkala airport, it is many other things, well , it is enough to open the internet there and see dozens, if not hundreds, of examples of what is happening now in russia in relation to to the jews, and this is of course very carefully received, and in the united states, especially, let's not forget about the very powerful jewish lobby in this country, they are all

watching and seeing and following closely, and i'm sure it's all being reported and to the american political community also, even to those who do not particularly follow the news there, on the territory of russia, so i think that this influence, although it exists, but it is now much smaller, and it should not be paid such increased attention , on the other hand, we must state that there is a certain group or certain groups in the american political community, and in both parties, democratic and republican. people, if you take the democrats, this is such a left-wing movement, these are the people, by the way, these are precisely the people who have some influence on a whole series of printed

american publications, such as the washington post, the new york times , politicians, well, fortunately for us, the time chikonist magazine is not included, but these publications, they almost constantly write such, well, rather ambiguous materials about ukraine, on the other hand, there is such , well, the extreme right. republicans, even if it is small, and these are not only trumpists or pro-trumpists, but these are people who, well, they are not so much in favor of russia, as they do not want , well, some extra funds to go to ukraine, you know, for them, maybe even, well no i'm afraid to say that ukraine is, and still is, to some extent associated as a part of... something so big, where, there is russia, you know, such tere incognita, that is, the fact that they are few,

let's say, are interested, and they are not they really want this subject to receive as much attention as it is now, well, from the side of the american administration, so this influence is from all sides, but the main thing for us, you know, i am today during this broadcast, about which i guessed , asked a direct question. ambassador in kyiv, should we really be afraid, well, the disappearance or undermining this bipartisan support in the usa, which we have been talking about for many, many years, and we are proud of, he said that no, not at all, because those camps, well, the camp, let's say, the republican parties, which, not anti-ukrainian, but well , not at all pro-ukraine. it basically consists of, well, there are, i don’t know, two dozen people, and although they are usually so vocal, they influence

many things, but in no way can they influence ukraine to lose bipartisan support or parties, let’s say support from republican party it's just us, we need to take some, let's say additional steps, i mean in domestic politics, this is the fight against corruption, and some other things, we have a whole series of unresolved issues. with the americans, i will say as a former ambassador that eh, you know, these questions or problems , they don't go back to the first ten years, it 's our debts, it's the situation around motor boats, by the way, which we sold to the chinese, and since then we don't know , what to do with it, and there were american companies that wanted to take over the marsitori package, why we didn’t go for it, i don’t know by the way, this does not apply to the current government, but to some former governments. ukraine, let's put it this way, there is another issue, the huge board of the boing company, that is, all this does not contribute at all

to such a, you know, normal positive climate, for example, in relations between our businesses, and american business has a very strong influence, and on american politics , so we need to take some steps so that we really do not have a strategic partnership on paper, but in reality, and then we will be able to solve many more problems than we on... ourselves we imagine, well, regarding motors, mr. volodymyr, maybe ukraine sold a controlling stake there to the chinese, because in principle , boguslaev, he is accused of treason and always worked for russia, so in principle it must be, well, one way or another there was a decision, including the project manager, i don't know what status he was there, he was a people's deputy of ukraine, that's why the americans may not have received motorsich exclusively because of that. the fact that boguslayov was an agent

of the russian federation, he simply worked in interests of the chinese economy, the chinese military-industrial complex, i would rather say that, but i will tell you this, mr. serhiy, you are right in principle, but if our authorities had the desire, it would be possible to overcome even the opposition of boguslaev, ee this month there will be a meeting of joseph biden xi jinping in san francisco, there will be a summit of the asia-pacific economic cooperation atc, this meeting is already planned, the ministry of foreign affairs of the people's republic of china confirmed that, on the eve of this meeting, xijin pin made it clear to the americans that china is ready to say that china and the united states of america are ready to take responsibility for the future of humanity, as stated in one of xijinpin's congratulatory letters to the americano summit. chinese, but putin constantly talks, talks and talks about the fact that this multipolarity should exist in the world, this

is the main thing that the owner of the kremlin strives for, but judging by what xi jinping wants, he still wants two poles in the world, the strongest , china and, the united states of america, and they will divide the world and be responsible for the future of mankind, what do you say about the perspective of this meeting in the context of what will happen next with russia, because it directly concerns us, it seems to me that after this meeting with russia, there will be even more. .. push international politics to the sidelines, let’s say, no matter how much putin wants to remain at least some kind of pole there, or the second, or the third, or the first, well, not the first, well, but still he wants to be the second, and probably not the third, but i think he is also the third it won't be soon, er, that is, on the one hand, well, it is not very good from the point of view of geopolitics, that we are

again, at least in words, returning to a bipolar world. but on the other hand, it is good that russia is no longer in this polarity, and indeed, you know, i remember one quote said by the famous politician medvedev, who for some reason recently disappeared from twitter, and instagram or where he wrote something, apparently he has another illness, he then said that russia has, let's say, three pillars on which it stands, the first is a thousand-year history, the second is nuclear weapons, and the third is a permanent seat in the security council, eh, well, regarding history, they say, let historians judge, i don’t think that many people in the world, except for russia itself,

will agree with this thesis, regarding nuclear weapons, it also seems to me that apart from threats , there is nothing left there, but as for the permanent seat in the security council, it is the same in russia, but everything is going to the point that it will get rid of this seat very quickly, if will continue the behavior she is doing today, so i i think that today russia is much further away from that desired pole, in confrontation with another. world than it actually is, and as for your question about what to expect from this meeting, i think that , uh, the very fact that it's going to be, that it's being held, it says that there's already been uh , and documents, and agreements, because otherwise it would simply not exist, at such a level between such countries there is no such thing as

a meeting for the sake of a handshake there and some kind of protocol dinner there. there will be a meeting so there are already draft decisions, and all decisions will concern , i think, first of all, such purely bilateral issues between the usa and china, first of all, it concerns cooperation, in the economic, financial sphere, technology, bilateral trade, which today , if i'm not mistaken, it's already over 1 trillion dollars , thanks, compared to, for example, trading, we should just finish, sorry, i'm going to go off the air, just, sorry again, thank you for being on the program, it's was volodymyr yelchenko, a politician and a diplomat, a person who knows about international politics, everything, or almost everything, friends, this was the program verdict provii serhiy rudenko, i wish you all good health, take care of yourself and

your relatives, goodbye. congratulations, bbc news ukraine is on air. jaferu works in a studio in london. today in the program we talk about the first british summit on the security of artificial intelligence. elon musk warns artificial intelligence could destroy humanity, as more than 100 representatives of nations, tech giants and... forges gathered near london to discuss how to reduce the threats of artificial intelligence, but at the same time maximize its benefits, among the participants of the conference are ukrainian government officials. so, for the first time in great britain, an international summit on the security of artificial intelligence. this is