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greetings, jafera works on the air of bbc ukraine, in the studio in london, today in the program we are talking about the first british summit on the security of artificial intelligence. elon musk warns artificial intelligence could destroy humanity, as more than 100 governments, tech giants and scientists gathered near london to discuss how to reduce the threats of artificial intelligence while maximizing its benefits, ukrainian government officials said. so, for the first time in the uk, an international summit on the security of artificial intelligence, this two-day conference.
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near london in bletchley park, in addition to representatives of countries , it is also attended by representatives of giant technology companies, among them elon musk, who warned that artificial intelligence can destroy humanity, but most experts believe that musk exaggerates this threat. the main focus of the summit is on how to reduce the risks of artificial intelligence, including potential privacy breaches, job losses, disinformation and bioterrorism, but at the same time how to reduce the risks to maximize benefits, and for all of this, according to the summit, countries, governments and private companies should work together. during this summit, 28 countries and the eu signed a declaration calling for global cooperation in overcoming the risks of artificial intelligence. this is the first such declaration signed by the usa, china and ukraine as well. thus the countries promised. intergovernmental cooperation in
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safe artificial intelligence developments. prime minister of great britain rishi sunik, who hosted the summit, believes that monitoring the risks associated with artificial intelligence is too it is important that only technology companies do this. in his opinion, this should be done at the state level. the summit takes place in bletchley park, a historic site. more about this meeting from the bbc's zoe clayman. it was here in bleach park that encryption codes were broken during the second world war. today , guests from all over the world have come here. among them is a member of the chinese government and yes, even elon musk. and already on the first day of the meeting , they agreed on the need to secure artificial intelligence. and this is the primary task. for the first time in human history, we have something that will be much smarter than us. so it's not clear to me how you can control such a thing, but i think we can. seek
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to steer it in a direction that will benefit humanity. the prime minister of great britain wants the country to be the arbiter of responsible technology development. is there a sense that the big us tech giants, who have their own commercial agenda, are already influencing these discussions too much. it is important that countries lead the process. we don't just take over the initiative we're really developing the capabilities that we're going to need to test what they're doing. company so we can make sure people are safe. to put it very briefly, artificial intelligence is a computer that designs things in a similar way to how the human brain works. such tools, unlike us, do not have consciousness, but like us, they perfectly detect patterns. artificial intelligence can digest a huge amount of information on a certain topic, more books than a human can read, more than in this entire library and it doesn't have to be texts, it can be. images or
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weather data, and then such technologies can give a lightning-fast prediction when there will be a request, for example, can form an answer to a question. generative artificial intelligence is a type of technology that creates content such as text, images, music, and video, and can make me. some delegates feared that the current summit had the wrong focus. it is also important to ask who is talking about these existential threats, because the people who us... in communities, it is not worry, we're more worried about whether artificial intelligence will deny people their pensions. demis hasabi, founder of google deep mind, one of the uk's leading artificial intelligence companies, says the industry should be careful. in this case, we shouldn't rush things and break things, as the typical silicon valley mantra says. i think the process of building huge companies that provide a lot of great services and programs has been extremely difficult, but ai...
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is too transformative a technology to rush into. even last year, few people even heard about the gpt chat, there are many more milestones to come and time will tell if the participants of the current summit... have made the right conclusions. this is not the first time that government officials have spoken about concerns about the threat of artificial intelligence. in the summer, this was discussed in the european union, where the text of the future law, which will regulate the rules in the field of artificial intelligence, has already been approved. and last week , the united nations announced the opening of an advisory body on artificial intelligence. the settlement is being talked about in the us as well, and everyone is worried about similar questions about security and personal data. and what do the developers themselves think about these threats? jack clark, co-founder of one of the companies specializing in artificial intelligence , agrees. governments have to control it. at this summit, there was a lot of talk about the big risks, such as biological weapons, cyber attacks,
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humanity losing control over artificial intelligence. so how do you assess these risks, how concerned are you about this situation? we believe that these risks are justified, but good. the news is that the support of the government is needed, which we actually see today, and companies have to find a way responsible approach to these risks. our company is actively working in this direction, and we already have experience that will help test such systems as we make them more efficient. indeed, the issue of security is extremely important. the us has just announced that they want to know what is going on in these companies, they want to see how artificial intelligence is being tested, how free it is. it's a good approach, what i see today is that ai companies are doing, i would say , their homework and evaluating the results of that work themselves, and we need others to governments such as the us government have reviewed this work, the british government is trying to create
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its own security institute, which was also discussed at the summit. artificial intelligence is clearly a global issue, the same as climate change, how do you… regulate, control, prevent these technologies from falling into the wrong hands. artificial intelligence is a technology that has no borders. let's start with the list of countries. european countries, the united states, great britain, and china are present here. so the fact that the british government has gathered everyone here is really promising. second, you have testing, and you generalize them into one system between countries. for example, how the safety mechanism works in cars or airplanes, however. around the world, a similar system is needed for the safety of artificial intelligence. ukraine is one of the countries that signed the bletchley declaration during the british summit, the deputy minister of digital transformation, george dubinsky, was at the conference, he says: it is important to find
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a balance between the regulation of artificial intelligence technology, while not stopping the development. and about how artificial intelligence develops in ukraine, let's talk with the development director. in the company yubustek, which works with artificial intelligence yury kostyuchenko. yury, i greet you, good evening, what is the development of artificial intelligence in ukraine today, in general? ah, good evening, thank you for the invitation, there are quite a lot of developments, in fact , there are development teams that work with artificial intelligence models, that is, they use ready-made solutions to create this or that program or system, there are people who will create: their own models of artificial intelligence in order to in principle create some kind of own product, for example, the most famous example would probably be the gremer company, which created a global product, which became a billion-dollar company there, the state's participation in the regulation of artificial intelligence, and look, the first steps the state
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created back in 2020, when the cabinet of ministers of ukraine approved the concept of the development of artificial in ukraine, which sets the goals of the development of our state, namely, in the 22nd year of the law of ukraine on copyright and related rights, and in august of the 23rd year a road map for legislative regulation of artificial intelligence in ukraine was announced by the ministry of digital, it will be implemented in approximately two stages: the first stage will be preparatory work and the second stage will be the adoption of a law similar to the european ai law. that is, the act of artificial intelligence. but i am interested in your opinion, can ukraine compete in the development of artificial intelligence with other countries of the world? what do you think? of course it can. ah, we actually live in a very technologically advanced country.
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we have a huge number of good engineers, scientists and universities that train young specialists. therefore, we are actually quite competitive. ah-ah and i would like to ask another question about regulation, we heard from jack clarke, your colleague, you could say that ai security should be regulated in the same way as transportation, do you agree with that? look, artificial intelligence is safe in safe hands, i think that if the government has come together at such a serious level to regulate these rules for the behavior of artificial intelligence and our behavior under artificial intelligence, i'm completely with it i agree, but if we go back to the threats to artificial intelligence, what are the warnings about the future of artificial intelligence, in your opinion? look, artificial intelligence is a technology, and as i said, in itself
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, a technology, it does not pose any threat, the threats are posed by the users of the technology, that is, if people will use it for the right purposes, that is, development, development of efficiency, then everything will be very good, if people will use it for not very ethical purposes, then this can be problematic, it seems to me that one country, the usa or ukraine, any other cannot be regulated, but a whole bunch of countries can do it. yes, we talked about elon musk , he generally believes that artificial intelligence can destroy humanity, do you think he is exaggerating, but look, we have all seen the movies there, terminators where the rebellion and something, people are always in these movies there is, that is, well, he probably exaggerates a little. but artificial intelligence is something that is already in ours, will develop, that is, it is created
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to make our lives easier and better and more efficient. thank you, yuvostek's director of development and co-founder of the flowmates community yury kostyuchenko contacted us. thank you. and by the way, artificial intelligence helped the legendary british group the beatles with the release of their new and last song. despite the fact that two members of the band, john lennon and george harrison , have died, the composition looks as if the whole band worked on it, based on a demo recorded by john lennon back in the 70s. over the years, the record differed on unofficial salaries. in the 80th year, john lennon was shot. and since then , the rest of the band had a dream to finish this composition. in the 90s, when george harrison was still alive, he managed to record guitar parts for the song, but then the technology did not
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allow to clean john lennon's voice recorded on an old tape, and this summer paul mccartney announced that artificial intelligence helped to separate john's voice lennen and finally, after tens of years of waiting, the artists today released their new composition with john's original vocals lennon and parties. george harrison. and if you want to know more about artificial intelligence, you can read about it on our website bbc.ua. there is a simple guide to help you understand artificial intelligence. we explain how artificial intelligence learns, what chatbots are, and what artificial intelligence is already used by humanity. and subscribe to our pages in social networks so as not to miss the most important ones. the news is on facebook, instagram and tiktok, on youtube you can watch our episode if you missed it
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the information attacks of the russians in the chronicle project. information war with olga len. tuesday, thursday-friday at 17:10 on espresso tv channel. mykola veresen, vitaly portnikov and the main topics of the week. if , god forbid, a truly tactical nuclear weapon is used against ukraine, it will definitely change the world. stories, issues, analysis and personalities. john herbst, the former ambassador of the united states to ukraine, is waiting for us. good afternoon, thanks for invitation, you have questions, you will get answers, also interesting questions, worth looking into, portnikov veresen, every friday at 21:15 at espresso. is there unity on the future strategy at the stake of the supreme commander, why the coming winter cannot be easy for
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ukrainians, and about the scale of pseudo-religious pro-russian organizations in ukraine. to talk about all this and not only, we asked the secretary of the national security council oleksiy danilov. the house of representatives of the us senate is preparing to vote on aid to israel separately from ukraine. at the same time, the congress assures that they will support funding for ukraine as soon as the relevant document is put to the vote. what amounts of aid will be saved and whether the white house will listen to the republicans who are asking for longer-range attacks for ukraine. details live from washington. the war is entering a new stage, and this may benefit russia. this was stated by the commander-in-chief, general zaluzhnyi, in the zaikonmist article. according to him , the war is now turning into what the military calls a positional war, that is , static and exhausting battles. as in the first
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world war. and this will allow russia to restore its military power. says the industrious. to get out of this stage, mr. zaluzhnyi emphasizes the need for key military capabilities and technologies. in particular, he puts aviation in the first place and notes, that the significant advantage of the russian federation in the sky made it difficult to move the bolt forward. the commander-in-chief calls radio-electronic warfare the second priority, and says that ukraine needs greater access to electronic intelligence from allies and the expansion of production lines for its own anti-drone systems. in the third place, zaluzhny singled out counter-battery fire, emphasizing that russia has significantly improved its own, including due to the thorough improvement of radio-electronic warfare, and that the effectiveness of russian weapons and intelligence cannot be underestimated. the fourth task - demining technology, since western supplies of equipment for demining turned out to be insufficient in view of the scale
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of russian minefields and the ability to quickly replenish them. five. and the last priority, says the commander-in-chief, is to build up reserves. russia has not been able to use its huge advantage in power, but our ability to prepare reserves on our own territory is also limited. we are trying to solve these problems. we are introducing a unified register of conscripts. we have to expand the category citizens who may be summoned to meetings or by mobilization. we are also introducing combat training, which provides. placement of newly mobilized and trained personnel in experienced advanced units for their training. is the bank ready, despite the unpopularity of the decision , to announce a larger scale of mobilization? i had a conversation about this with oleksiy danilov, secretary of the nsdc. they also talked about the threats of this winter, about pseudo-religious organizations like alatra, which operate on
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the territory of ukraine in the interests of russia. how many of them are closely watched. law enforcement officers and the appearance of new kremlin movements should be expected in ukraine in the near future. below is an excerpt of an interview with the secretary of the national security council for your attention. let 's start then with the article of the commander-in-chief , general zaluzhnyi, the article for the economist, this is the fresh one that appeared this morning. so he announced the threat of an opposition war, which is in favor of russia, and named five such priorities for ukraine at this stage. air superiority, radio electronic warfare, counter-battery warfare, mine clearance technologies and increasing reserves, well, actually the first four positions are in particular what depends on our western partners, in your opinion, what is preventing the west from helping ukraine with more weapons and necessary means? i want to remind you, back to the situation
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that was in february, in march of 22, if you remember, we begged to give protection to our sky, we begged to close our sky because it was about our children, it was about our civilians, etc., unfortunately we didn't get any at that time. well, help began to arrive, it gradually arrived, and we very carefully monitor in the apparatus who first provided what, and which country did it, and i can say that when we can look back now, i am more than sure that if this the help was faster, but maybe there were other results, it is true, and even today with a certain time, when the russian federation has already recovered, when they began to connect
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their friends in quotation marks, meaning iran, in the well-known autocratic korea, we have a rather complicated, complicated situation, that's why i think that general zaluzhnyi is right, we talked about it several times, including at the stake meeting, that new approaches are needed, and what concerns the sky, well, you remember that, it is an old story, because what concerns f-16 aircraft, i do not know, i emphasize again, it is possible to record when this conversation began, unfortunately, it has not yet come to life, and any military person understands that without such, at least parity, at least approximated in the air, it is extremely difficult to achieve the results we have to achieve, but this does not mean that we will fold our hands, we will wait for someone, our task in any case remains the same, to liberate our country, to liberate our country,
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that is, to drive the enemy out of the territory that we have in 1991, put an end to this issue once and for all, it will definitely happen, if the enemy there did not want to harm us, no matter how today some people start to play the pipe under the sand on the territory of certain countries, we understand what we have to do and we are consistent in ours. mr. oleksiy, the question is, after all, what what prevents the west from supplying the necessary weapons and ammunition faster and more, political will, bureaucratic processes, unpreparedness for the rapid disintegration of russia or the defeat of russia, what exactly? uh, final sentence, you are right, this is what confuses the west, there are different politicians, just like here, some advise this or that official to take their time, some, for some reason, with this or that piety may
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refer to russia, keep in mind that the world is big, it is diverse, and it would be strange if everyone were, let's say, you know, in in such a democratic way, this is how the vast majority of countries are, this is how our drive towards our democratic victory is, because, well, that is, the question of our survival, certain decisions are made based on one or another situation, each country separately makes its decisions, in addition to the buildup of weapons, the need for military support , mr. zaluzhny also talks about the buildup of reserves, it is also about solving certain organizational issues, the register of conscripts, and this is combat training, but of course it is also about the need to increase the number
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mobilized, our western partners have already talked about this many times, and about the reduction of the conscription age, military experts are almost unanimous in the fact that it is necessary to increase the scale of mobilization, and the military itself , those who have been at the front for almost two years without normal rotation, too demand social justice, and in this matter, the authorities are ready to announce an unpopular decision to increase mobilization, or at least to reduce the retirement age, the situation you wrote about now, you are right, it is very it is a difficult situation, but there are decision-making procedures, but this is not a decision that someone wanted, there are decision-making procedures , they are currently in place in our country, but there is a meeting of the supreme commander's stake, where each of the 22 members of the stake has the right to submit questions for consideration and it is mandatory, i, as the commander-in-chief's rate coordinator, must definitely put this issue on the agenda so that we consider this issue, first, secondly, there is the verkhovna rada, and if it is necessary at
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the legislative level.. to raise questions but you are right that it should be done there right now, it should be done by the members of the verkhovna rada, everyone has their own level of authority, but everyone should do their own thing, so the situation today is difficult, but as our military says , it is completely controlled, so there is no need here, let's put it this way, to blow up this topic, but our mobilization began on february 24 , 2022... the morning when the deputies of the verkhovna rada approved the decisions of the national defense security council, which we held in the president's office at 5:30 in the morning february 24, where everyone gathered at once members of the security and defense council, we have this process going on every day, is it difficult? yes, it is very difficult, because here we also return to certain things, when people are not clean on their hands, they start doing something to someone there, some proposals, some things,
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it reacts to it in the same way, it looks and of course these these these things can to outrage, you are talking about the involvement of various bodies, the verkhovna rada voted in may on a draft law on reducing the conscription age from 27 to 25 years old, president zelenskyy still has not signed this draft law, why? see when you will communicate with the president, i do not refer to the people who can be given by one or the other as the president, i am talking about what the subordinates say about it, no, i do not refer to people. who will say something about the work of the president behind the scenes, this is a question for volodymyr oleksandrovich, and my, my interpretation, it will absolutely not be correct in this case, i emphasize once again that we work only with documents, we work with our respective powers within and in a way, and you talk about it on rates, and whether it is decided with all the participants and whether everyone's position on this coincides, absolutely everyone...
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has the right to participate in the discussion of any issue announced on the rate, then this issue is constantly under control. once again, i emphasize what is directly related, when you address questions to me that are not within the scope of my competence, i cannot give you an answer, i have my own vision, i have my own understanding, but as a citizen, but i am now communicating with you as the secretary of the council on, that is, you cannot voice your attitude to the need to reduce the draft age due to: mobilization? i can do a lot of things, but keep in mind that i am an official, i would very much not like my words to be interpreted in one way or another, taking into account the situation in which we find ourselves today, if not there was this vote, if there were no such documents, of course you would have received a direct answer from me, ugh, okay, i heard, actually , let’s finish the article with the ezicon, there general zaluzhny said that
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he was mistaken when he thought that russia will stop... the disappearance of its troops, and that we are currently witnessing a war that is actually a century old, that is, when we have reached a dead end, when we need a technological leap, and that according to the calculations of the general staff, ukraine could have entered the crimea in four months, but now , in six months, we have advanced to these are for 17 km, and this is at the cost of incredible efforts, military personnel, great human losses, did the nsdc at the bank review the strategy, taking into account the pace of the counteroffensive and the pace of western aid, and are there any mistakes, for example, which you personally realized or admitted? for bets supreme commander, these issues have been repeatedly considered, it is these bodies that today make those decisions , what concerns the military, direct component, because according to our normative legal acts, the law of documents, it is precisely the rate of supreme commander-in-chief actions during the war for the adoption of certain relevant decisions, did we listen to valery fodorovych zaluzhny,
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