[000:00:00;00] did not say that he was wrong when he thought that russia would stop the bloodshed of its troops, and that we are currently witnessing a war that is actually a century old, that is, when we reached a dead end, when we need a technological leap, and now that according to the calculations of the general staff, ukraine could advance to crimea in four months, but now in six months they have advanced 17 km, and this is at the cost of incredible efforts of the military, great human losses, did the nsdc at the bank review the strategy, taking into account the pace of the counteroffensive and the pace of western aid, and whether are there... mistakes, for example, that you have personally realized or recognized for yourself? the commanders of the command that these issues have been repeatedly considered, these bodies today make those decisions, what concerns the military, directly components, because according to our regulatory and legal acts , the documents will be issued, just the rate of the supreme commander in action during the war to make those or other relevant decisions, did we listen to valery fodorovych

zaluzhny and his proposals, yes, it happened more than once, but we have, have, have in mind, that in this case we are not alone, if we were alone in this world , the situation would be a little different, we have partners with whom we also, let's say, agree on certain things, we have hope for the supply of certain things things, they are sometimes delayed, it gives the enemy, let's say so, to make certain decisions, as far as recalculations are concerned, keep in mind that it is not only ours. accounts, when this great war began, here is the word combination of sanctions, here they began to sound quite loudly like that, but on a very large scale unfortunately, many countries do not follow this procedure, i would believe that the sanctions should be as strict as possible so that the russian federation does not have the ability to kill our children, but i would really like sanctions to be imposed on the oil complex

of the russian federation , which without...' is directly a supplier of currency for russia to replenish stocks, they don't buy for kariochi, they buy, take from iran, now in krey, the famous, let's say authoritarian , these cartridges, they pay for it in currency, that's what they receive at the expense of, well, we live in a world in which it is clear to us how much the russian federation receives in a month or a year, let's say, for oil, but such a position is not yet timely, and the further it goes, the more difficult it is to impose sanctions, because it is a great pity that the values ​​that are primary in any democratic process, they are for some representatives from one or another country , for some reason they are beginning to slip into second place, were there any personal miscalculations that

you can admit, if there were, of course, well, phrases personally about accounts, or expectations that did not come true, or plans that you were forced to revise, well, i drew parallels with what mistakes general zaluzhnyi admitted, well, look, i don’t want to speak for general zaluzhnyi now, i can only answer, of course, that’s it when we make certain decisions, of course, i would very much like our relations with our partners to be more dynamic in terms of the supply of weapons, starting from february 24 from the first day. moreover, when they started telling us from october 30, 21, that in there will be a war, i explained to them all, it will happen, but we will perform operas, they will definitely not capture us, but give us help, you remember that there was help, but it was extremely limited, it was more of an emotional help, for which we are sincerely grateful to our partners, because it was so worked out that we believed that we had such weapons of victory, although in fact, if you immediately look at

the tactical characteristics of the weapons that we received at that time, well, well, and what we have today is, as they say, heaven and earth, if we are from the very first days received the help that we would like to count on, as it eventually began to arrive, well , the situation would be completely different, keep in mind that it was time that gave the enemy, but to mine our huge territory, time gave the enemy, let's say this, prepare, gave the enemy time to negotiate with raran. with korea, with other things, but it does not affect us, unfortunately, because we are on planet earth, where there are a lot of processes, events, and mr. lusi, let's go back to the pond and to the times article in which much written by simon schuster, about how the bet happens, i saw you comment on this piece in the times, this article, you say that the authorities should answer what these anonymous

sources are, and what do you see for . the leak of important information from such inspiring insights from an anonymous person? i believe that no one has the right, out of sight, to tell something about our president, which i want to remind you that today the president is the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, who is waging a very difficult, complex war, including in this the article clearly states that the president has no doubts about our victory, and if someone in the president's circle doubts our victory, if someone believes that it cannot be achieved, if someone believes that it is necessary to make some concessions to the aggressor , then you have to go out, publicly and tell, this is the first , second, it is very carefully prescribed as if... the events that take place, let's say this, at the meeting, it is written there of the military cabinet, so look, all 114 meetings of the rate that i organized on behalf of the president, i was present,

none, let's say, what is written there, none has any, let's say , with reality, because this person does not understand at all how these processes take place, and i do not know, at all, who could be present there for to make such comments , uh, but you are saying that if there is... in the environment of the president, a person who does not believe in victory, he has no right to be near the president, why? please, please , stay, but publicly make your public statement, say that i do not believe in the victory of ukraine, and then i have a question, what you then work with the president, here you know, this is very, very, very important , look, the team must have people who believe in the leader, who understand each other and do everything to ensure victory, but if we say so , fall... the mood, if all this is lost, and let's surrender, and let's go to some negotiations, you understand how it will end for the president, for our country, you understand the consequences, and you are sure that everyone who is at stake,

the same understanding of victory, well, of course we're talking about the borders of 91, look, i know all the members without exception , i can say, i don't know anyone who... didn't believe in our victory, look, the fact is that 90% of the members of the stake, that's it the generals, the generals do not believe in our victory, they lie down, they defend us ukraine, they look, from the first day they stood up for the defense of our ukraine, together with all our people, the fact that there are problems yes, but this does not mean that we don't believe in victory, everything is complicated , but it's not... it means that we don't believe in our victory, what is, let's say this, is a problematic issue , including in terms of supply and in many, yes, but we believe in our victory, this is the main thing, the main thing is faith, if you don't have faith, faith, keep in mind, you lost, the question is whether

everyone is willing to pay the same price for this victory, and whether the forecasts differ about the duration, do you talk about it at all, that there will be a long war, it was clear collusively, since march, april. er, last year on the 22nd, because the russian federation is er in terms of territory , it’s like a big dinosaur with a big with an ass, i apologize, but with a small head, and of course it has to be cut into pieces, cut, cut, this is a very difficult process, i emphasize once again, as a result of the events that are happening in the world today, each country has its own interest, we have to count it with you, we have to understand, another matter is that we would very much like it to happen immediately, but keep in mind that we were and are still in a very difficult situation of the influence of russian agents, the influence of russian agents of influence on the situation on the territory of our country, here is one of our key mistakes, i

said the same thing when in 1991 we did not close the crucifix on volodymyrskyi kgb street, but simply took it and renamed it sbu. mr. oleksiy, about the russian agency: the national police security service, today they confirmed that they have been neutralized and blocked. on 20 cells of the pseudo-religious pro-russian sect alatra, which operated throughout ukraine, which justified russian aggression, and here it is worth noting that this structure has been operating on the territory of ukraine since 2011, when it was targeted attention, why exactly and how many such pseudo-religious organizations can exist in ukraine, are you following anyone else closely? well, the tracking is going on, and i can say that it is a very complicated process, because people , under the guise of one or another... public institution, they decide at their own discretion their questions on the task, what concerns the special agencies of the russian federation, but this is a cover, well, there

is no need to go far, i already said that look, i expect that in the near future another one will appear from political acquisition the russian project, under the name women were for the future, now they will be for peace, that is. er, you can be sure of these women, who at one time told here and there that we need peace, we need to reconcile , we need to be friends, etc., of course, but not under the auspices of, er... fsb, that's what you mean , that it should be a completely different situation, but we are also here to restore order in our country, no one will do it instead of us, and what concerns the work of this alatra, she was known, she was known, let's say, even earlier, i can say that when every day the president gathers all the representatives of the security and defense sector from the very morning, and when there was a report of the security service, he asked the question, why didn't you do it earlier,

well, as they say, it was in developers, ugh, mr. oleksiy, and i know that we are running out of time, but i can’t help but ask about energosyma, because the closer to winter, the more the stake meetings talk about energosyma, it’s no secret how much is prepared ukraine will enter this winter, what exactly has changed, and is it possible to calm down ukrainians that this winter will not be as difficult in terms of energy as the previous one, we cannot have a simple winter. i want to emphasize that we are in the stage of war, we understand what our adversary is counting on, he will recently reduce the number of shelling, what concerns critical infrastructure, namely the energy sector, he is now accumulating, he is accumulating first in order to give us exactly, let's say, when the temperature will be winter , in order to try to harm us, i can say that we must ... let's go, it won't be a simple winter

, because once again it's the winter of war, it's not the winter, let's put it this way, of a simple period, everything that can be done is done and the state, makes companies that are responsible for this, ukraine can receive a positive decision from the eu leaders regarding the move to the european union, this is how the head of the foreign ministry of germany berbok was perceived at the conference on the expansion of the european union in berlin, i will add that it is expected that the leaders of the european union will consider the issue the possible start of negotiations with ukraine on its accession to of the european union summit in december, and their conclusions will be based on the european commission's assessment of ukraine's fulfillment of the candidate criteria, which will be published on november 8. berbok said that she knows how much effort is required from the candidate countries to move to the eu and assured that she understands how difficult this process is for warring ukraine. well, just now to ours. ogrysko, head of the russian research center, diplomat,

minister of foreign affairs in 2007 joins the broadcast. mr. volodymyr, good evening, we have already talked with you before direct inclusion, but let's start then with the news that i just announced, this is a positive decision on the start of negotiations on membership, let's translate from diplomatic language to civilian what it means, how important it is, it means, ms. daria, that the political decision on that ukraine. getting closer to the european union and ultimately becoming a full member is accepted, something that hasn't been since, well, actually, i think, 2000 8, when we signed the association agreement, when we started, started advancing to the european union, when we just started...

the process of preparing for the signing of the association agreement, you can imagine, 2008, the start was apparently given, then the truth was that a famous president came to power, who did not want to sign the agreement that we had already offered and asked, in the end we got problems, because then we already had to fulfill the criteria in order to sign the association agreement, and so it continued until actually the last time, after the full-scale russian invasion of ukraine, finally in the west understood that either ukraine will be a semi-colony of russia, or it will become a member of the european community and finally return to the place from where it was violently torn out at the end of the 17th century, that 's exactly what mrs. burbok's statement today is about, about the fact that we are returning, and the european... leaders, european leaders

will help us in this, formally it will be announced in december, but i think that now on november 8 we will receive, well, the actual green light that we will move forward, but this is not means that everything will be very easy and it's going to be, you know, very, very simple, unfortunately, it's not like that, unfortunately, we still have a lot of problems , which, which we've been told about for years, and which we're trying to sort of understand, but really don't really understand, so after these negotiations begin, problems will begin. for many of our officials, who will have to report, the truth is already not to, not only to us, but also to the european commission, why and how this continues, i really do not want you to repeat the experience of turkey, ugh, and what next, actually , about which temporary the framework can go, and what it depends on, it depends on us, ladies, it depends on us how

much we will do what is needed, well, actually, it will be a technical work to some extent, because we will have to synchronize our legislation with the european one, and this... it is hard to even imagine how simple, well, complex technical work it is, it is necessary , well, to dig through tens of thousands of volumes of the legislation of the european union and bring it into line with what we have, or rather, our legislation is in line with what is in europe, that is, it is difficult work for the verkhovna rada, first of all, because a lot of laws will have to be adopted, well, now we have them, some of them have already been adopted. part, of course, this is exactly what i wanted to say, that the association agreement gave us, so to speak, the opportunity to start getting closer , but to the final approximation, well, this is still quite a significant term, although, well, some of our high-ranking officials talk about it two or three

years, well, god forbid, god forbid a wolf eats us in our tylyat, well, then let's go to the materials with... use in the economist with the use of zaluzhny, interview with zaluzhny, his column, yes, but those messages that were voiced by the ukrainian commander-in-chief, in your opinion, which of them receive the greatest response among western partners? and it seems to me all of them, because all those, well, at least five main points that he talks about, they are vitally important, that is, you cannot replace something with something, it is a complex, and one depends on the other. we start with the latest technology or the necessary number of weapons and end with mobilization, these are all things that are one and the same process, one cannot be separated from the other, to say, we are we will win, no, this is all a complex, so i think this is a whole program

of what we need, i would really like our western partners to finally understand that you cannot feed the ukrainian army a day, a teaspoon, if we want results, about which some, well, too many, i would say, active supporters of the republican party are shouting, let's get results, then in order for there to be results, diseases need medicine, if there are not enough medicines, then the disease continues, i mean under disease, what will be necessary for the russian federation anyway to punish for her crimes and at the same time to punish... mercilessly, so i think that here we need to work equally actively with our western partners, to explain to them that it is impossible to win by half-steps, it is necessary to work seriously and do what actually

needs to be done they, our western partners, need, well, actually, there are four points, let's say, the four first priority points that zaluzhny calls, these are precisely the things that depend more on the help of western partners, and what prevents us from delivering in larger volumes, with greater speed aid to ukraine, it is about political will, bureaucratic obstacles, the fear of the collapse of russia, or about everything at once, you absolutely correctly listed all, all all, all the reasons, it seems to me that first and foremost it is the lack of political will to make a decision about what to do with russia, because everything else follows from this. if you make a decision that russia will not lose, although it seems to win , ukraine wins, this is one logic of actions, if you make a decision that ukraine wins and russia loses in the sense in which they are

today and in that form, it is a different logic of actions, but there is still no clarity in that sense, and what should be the end of the war, some say it is the don of 1991, others say no, it is only the beginning of the process , because after that russia must be punished, after that russia must pay compensations for collusion, after that russian war criminals must be tried by an international tribunal and so on, but you can’t say that, and what else, the destruction of putin’s regime , this is not a consequence of this war, and definitely has, and the re-education of the population is behind the bar. which is riddled with chauvinism, nationalism, anti-semitism, now we see it with our own eyes, isn't it a task to transform this so-called russian federation. so, we really have to tell ourselves what we want, and

from that it will be clear what tools and medicines we should choose in order to achieve the result, otherwise it will be, you know, walking on the sidelines, here something was done, here something they didn't do it, but they forgot it, and they didn't plan it, well, that's it then we don't have what we should have, you say that we need to clearly understand how clearly ukraine has articulated what it believes. for the western world, this is exactly the question, this is exactly what we need, i think, to do daily, every minute, every hour, to bring this very philosophy, ideology to the understanding of our western partners, well, this is what i know from my own experience , i will tell you honestly, they are afraid of this, they are afraid like hell, of even talking about the fact that russia needs to be transformed, the logic is this, we do not interfere, we wait, well, on in my opinion, you can't wait for evil to do even more evil, well, it's a

kind of, perhaps, beautiful pacifist position, but it's not moral, that is, we can't continue to give opportunities to evil, to multiply this evil, evil must be punished, it must be eliminated , it must be destroyed, but unfortunately, in many american minds, the simple and simple truth that evil must be fought is still unclear, it is some kind of post-soviet legacy, or why, does russia still have nuclear status, you know, i think , that the nuclear status is a scarecrow mainly in order to to support the internal russian, so to speak, this thermostat of this chauvinism, this heat, we will win, we, we will not win there and so on, and so on, for the west it is clear that putin will not, will not use nuclear weapons, well, because that would mean its end is physical, political, and the end of the russian

federation itself, and they understand it all very well there. therefore, it is more and more such a political-diplomatic, er , er, indeterminacy, unfortunately, er, no, unwillingness to see, a strategic perspective, er, expectation, that first the fact, and then our answer, i think that logic is not very effective when it comes to this maximum escalation that we are currently seeing, and we will soon have our correspondent from not our our colleague from the voice of america from the united states, and i also want to mention the article the the times, we have been talking about this a lot in recent days, but there is still a raging discussion, and what effect did it have, on western politics, on western society, in your opinion, i think it is negative, because

the times is read, it is that considered, well, a fairly, fairly balanced journalistic product, and so on, but this is again, i agree with many here that this is the personal opinion of the author, but we all have to draw a conclusion, i have already spoken about this many times, we must finally understand who is who governs, in our system of power coordinates, and to do it absolutely... honestly, i believe that it is high time to adopt a law on the functions and powers of the advisory body under the president, which includes the administration, secretariat, office, and so on, so that everything is plain and clear, i think then, well, those nameless observers or observers will be clearly reduced, so it will be clear who is responsible for what and how it should actually... happen. ugh. well, let's move on to the states then. ostap yarykh, correspondent of the ukrainian service of the voice

of america, voice of america, will be in direct contact with us now. yes, ostap, i congratulate you. good evening. congratulations, well, actually , today i was convinced, or the day before , the spokesman of the state department, mati miller , that the united states has not lost its focus on supporting ukraine, and the request for funding will be adopted as soon as the relevant document arrives. to the vote, when it might happen, and actually, what amounts of aid might be involved? yes, let me remind you that there is now such an internal dispute here in washington, how and in what form to approve this funding, let me remind you that the white house is asking to approve a joint package for ukraine, israel, the indo-pacific region, other needs, in the amount of about 106 billion dollars, but today we heard a proposal from speaker of the house mike johnson, the speaker-elect. he believes that israel

should be considered separately, put to a separate vote and separately after that combine the request of the white house on ukraine and the protection of the southern border of the united states, he believes that this is how it should be considered, and he is not ready for any, for any other option at the moment go. in the senate, in turn, they believe that there is greater support, in fact, for the proposals of president biden in order to consider the package as a whole and for ukraine and israel, today, for example, chuck schumer, the leader of the democrats in the senate, let me remind you that it is the democrats who control the senate, called the proposal of mike johnson, the speaker of the house of representatives, is inadequate, and one that does not meet the request and needs of the united states. let me remind you, the white house also said that if congress approves funding for israel separately, and does not include other needs, such a bill will most likely be promised. let me remind you, for the viewers watching, that in order to get final approval, it needs, it needs to be considered, the same, by both the house of representatives and the senate. we will watch whether the congressmen succeed and senators to agree on the

form in which this funding should be considered. and whether the white house will agree to this, so i think we will have an answer in the next, the next few days and maybe next week. sap, today it became known that a group of republicans called on biden to give ukraine a longer range of attacks, and it is interesting that this is happening at a time when the house of representatives, which is the majority of republicans, is just about to vote on a separate bill, providing aid to israel ignoring president joe biden's demand to accept broad funding, and what is known about this, is it purely political statements, or could it have some kind of follow-up? you know, such letters, they are not the first, i think they are not the last, we have similar letters and also about f16, and in the past we have seen about other capabilities from a certain group of republicans in the house of representatives and in the senate, now we are talking about influential legislators, this is michael mccaul, who is the chairman of the foreign relations committee, the house of representatives, these are other

lawmakers, roger wicker, for example in the senate, so what... who also head the committees, are important, now they have a call for the biden administration to provide ukraine with a larger radio court, we remember the previous tranche, it was about 170 km, this is one of the options , an older version of atakam, now senators and congressmen are calling for the white house to eventually grant ukraine greater such capabilities. just to remind you of the past, in the past few days we have seen another letter from another group of republicans urging the white house to consider funding israel. separately from ukraine and put their question to joe biden, in particular, what is his vision, the victory of ukraine in this war, how does he see this strategy, and also asks him to provide a list of weapons that the united states has not yet provided, but in their opinion, this, these weapons can change the situation for battlefield, and these lawmakers say that until the white house provides these answers, or fulfills these demands, as they call them, they will not

provide one dollar for ukraine. we know that in the republican party. in fact, there are different factions, different groups, yes, which, perhaps, have different visions support for ukraine, such letters are a common practice from democrats and republicans, we have seen them many times, this is one of the manifestations of the influence of congress on the white house, heard ostap, thank you very much, ostap yarysh, correspondent of the ukrainian voice of america service, was with us directly connection, thank you, mr. volodymyr, so what are the risks, what are the prospects , as you assess... those scenarios that will further develop with the help of ukraine, and you know, ms. daria, it seems to me that any problems should be transformed into positives, well, this is the highest aerobatics and in diplomacy, and in politics, and look, now your colleague is talking about the fact that this core, pro-trump, trump, demands

what, demands that, president biden said clearly, and what is the goal, uh, yes we just talked about it, so it would be great if president biden would say that my goal is to change the regime in russia, i don't know if he would say that, but it would be great if he said that 's what i want, for russia to lose, great, that's followed by the next question, what does that mean practically, and then we start listing all those things that we have talked about for a long time and more than once'. you said, it is great what needs to be done in order to achieve those goals, which means that some american congressmen and senators are telling us again that we need to give ukraine additional weapons, which is the f16, maybe, but why not the f-35, well for example, well, i 'm fantasizing now, of course, and why atakams at 160 km, and not at 300, and so on, that is,