[000:00:00;00] because to overcome mine explosive barriers with the help of appropriate technologies, it is not difficult technologically, it is difficult , well, it takes some time, but i repeat once again, they have a sharp increase in their effectiveness if they are covered by troops, that is, in terms of fire, the enemy, fire impact, prevents the use of these technologies directly on the battlefield. if these explosive barriers are not covered by troops, it just takes time to overcome them, but what if, er, they are covered by troops, then it becomes more difficult, it is still necessary first, look at the enemy troops who are hiding behind mine-explosive barricades, and then try to overcome them. please tell me more, here is one of those points, which valery zaluzhnyi also emphasizes, says

that mobilization in ukraine should be expanded. how do you assess which, that is, in what number, the ukrainian armed forces, if it is of course for the purposes of security there and so on, you can call it, there are still needs for the armed forces of ukraine, but if we are talking about i don’t know, nothing, i can’t help you with anything on this occasion to say because statements, the main operational department of the general staff and, let’s say, the operational, main operational department of the general staff, they are, well, unknown to me, so the conclusions, well, let’s say, this constitutes a state military secret, i would not talk about the mobilization, let’s say, the capabilities of the mobilization system of ukraine would speak in an open public space, then in this open public space i would like to talk with you about weapons in the west, the weapons that are provided to ukraine, they are not enough at the moment, but the hard worker also says, but in the western partners of ukraine, are there really enough weapons to fulfill the promises

they made, or is that all? nevertheless, they are also trying to make up for it now, let's say, in the field of modern weapons, armament of military equipment, well, those samples and types of weapons that we fundamentally need in a key character, there are certain limitations, because the possibilities are also not yet expanded in our partner countries, this is , first of all, well, regarding more outdated weapons, well , there you have to see which ones are needed and which ones are not is needed, that is, which meets the requirements and needs of the armed forces of ukraine at the moment, can they meet, will they meet in the short or long term, uh, a very different approach is needed here, no, let’s put

it this way, uh, you don’t need to understand , that our... partner countries, allies that provide us with military and technical assistance, they will provide us with everything that is necessary at the first click, this is not quite true, it is firstly, secondly, well, it is outdated weapons, why in ukraine, that's why they need time for them increasing its capabilities, for example, in the production of ammunition, 155 caliber, including high-precision guided missile weapons , such stocks are not so large in our partner countries and allied countries that they can provide us with a large volume at once, you understand, to immediately satisfy the needs of the zsu , that is, they need time to build up, that is the moment that mr.

zaluzhnyi spoke about, the danger before the transition of the war. oppositional phase, stage, er, why is it dangerous, because er, the same processes take place in the military-industrial complex of the russian federation, they are also increasing their capabilities in this regard, by the way, the military and political leadership of the russian federation invests substantial financial resources in this area, well, it is obvious that in conditions when the russians still have, let's say, a certain number of countries , which are helping them in the sense of there technology, er, resources, there , i mean china, iran, north korea, and so on, well, obviously there is, let's say , some, some danger, sir kostyantyn, what do you think, this is the coordinator of the council

of white house national security, john kirby, he. e, characterizing and evaluating the article of the useful in the economy, said that this is one of the important arguments that it is necessary to continue to support ukraine, whether it will possibly affect - those politicians, for example in the united states, republicans, who still think, or is it worth supporting ukraine or not, here are such materials that definitely characterize the war as it is, there from the words, from the first, no matter how much we would like it, but on the meaning and content of military-technical assistance assistance to ukraine is somehow affected by the domestic political situation in key partner countries, well, we will not get anywhere from this. if, for example, certain political groups in one or another country, well, they question the volumes, for example, and the content of aid to ukraine, then they proceed from some of

their own political interests, this is obvious, and the meaning of this political it's a pity, no matter how much we would like to admit it, but ukraine's aid is a significant factor in this political internal struggle. active, on the political the arena of those countries' forces, well, we must take this into account, the point is that what is the level of influence, volume and size of these groups that advocate, for example, the termination or reduction of aid to ukraine, we must take this into account, what is the level of their real political influence, when planning actually, i mean, in the sense of planning one's own actions , in order to understand, yes, one more question i have will relate to exactly what is happening on the left bank, there is a lot of information, analysts give their information, in particular about what there are supposedly battles going on in the markets, there are

the position of the institute for the study of american war, i would like to hear your expert opinion, how do you evaluate the messages that come in, in particular from telegram channels, there are russian pro-war telegram channels also writing about the fact that the zsu is allegedly already in the streets, so how you evaluate this information and what should be done... the average ukrainian who, for example , is watching our broadcast right now, what is happening on the occupied left bank right now, well, the armed forces of ukraine managed to create several tactical bridgeheads, well, one of them really is located in the direction of the village of krynka, but it continues like this, the battles continue, the enemy is trying, if not to eliminate them, then at least to substantially limit them, that is the main meaning of his actions. is to create an obstacle for the armed forces of ukraine to transform these tactical bridgeheads into more significant operational scale, that is to prevent the armed forces of ukraine from increasing these

bridgeheads, that is to eliminate them when the opportunity arises, thank you, thank you for your expert analysis for what you found time and opportunity to tune in to our broadcast, kostyantyn mashovyts, this military observer, coordinator of the resistance group, a guest of our broadcast, in the robino area, in the west of the zaporizhia region, russian troops are conducting tactical counterattacks, this is an element of elastic defense against the offensive actions of the armed forces of ukraine. analysts of the american institute for the study of war report this and explain: the situation south of robotino is unstable, as some tactically important fortifications have changed hands several times . analysts write that difficult encounters continue. fighting on a robotic ledge. to the forces defense of ukraine managed to occupy one of the heights. meanwhile, russian forces are rotating and introducing new formations into battle and actively counterattacking ukrainian forces. analysts say, i will quote: unfortunately, in this

battle, the number of infantry is decisive and, accordingly , the enemy may suffer heavy losses for a long time. it was a direct quote. in the summary of the general staff for the past day, it was noted that the russian forces in the zaporizhzhia direction are without a shoulder. they successfully tried to restore the lost position in the robotny district of the zaporizhzhia region. the ministry of defense of russia reports on the destruction of the positions of units of the armed forces of ukraine by russian artillery, they say that they disrupted the offensive of ukrainian forces in the district settlements of roboty and verbove. i will remind you about the liberation of the village of robotyne by the ukrainian general staff in august of this year, all local residents were evacuated from there, since then, the fighting near robotyne continues , and the fact that ukrainian forces still cannot move freely through this population. point, since it is in the zone of damage of russian artillery, wrote the international agency af. in the chat under our broadcast write to us, actually, what is the situation in your region, i will remind you that

the russian forces attacked ukraine last night, in particular lviv oblast, kharkiv oblast were affected, odesa oblast, information about the work of ppol also from khmelnytsky oblast, if you are watching us from these settlements , then be sure to write in the comments what your current situation is. individual fighters of the third assault brigade were accused of sexism. a wave of indignation broke out after a post by historian marta havryshko. she noticed that on one from public events. brigade, which took place two months ago, the fighter standaper and comedian viktor rozovy, condescendingly and sarcastically joked about the role of helping women in the army. i suggest you listen to a fragment from this event, and what do you think, in which one, where exactly, and in what way could women help at the front, exactly? exactly where and how i will be silent, is silent, the source is silent, and what i am silent, i cannot be told, i will tell , let's see. it is worth noting that after

this comment rozovoy's brother with the call sign istok began to explain that women in armies can perform clerical, administrative functions, can work in warehouses. and he added that in the third stormtrooper there are no restrictions on gender, but at the end istok says, i quote, a girl, no matter what, is still a little weaker than a man, but after that the soldier recognized that women were needed in the news, and he personally knows those who fight in the infantry and that these are physically strong and strong-spirited women. another question for the military concerned combat medics, who has more at the front, women or men? the winter gnome fighter said that there are more men, because it is difficult for women to be combat medics at the front, and he does not see them much, it was a direct quote. later , a combat medic from the 72nd brigade addresses the military scene and says that it is a lie that girls cannot be combat medics, because she herself has been a vokop combat medic for four years. and in their brigade, there are other women, and this is what

she heard in response, not all girls can do that, just like not all boys, but there are fewer girls going to war, right, there is such a thing, yes, that's why it all happens, that's why no one in any case wants to humiliate, there are girls who are fighting and i thank them very much, i think we should applaud the girls, yes, who are fighting for ukraine, and also, it was this joke, in which rozovy equated it with a call to applause for women fighting children and dogs, that historian havryshko singled out separately in his post, and after that gener media in detail called on the third assault brigade to explain the fighter's statement. we demand from the third assault brigade a public communication on this matter, or

the mentioned discriminatory statements are the official position of the brigade. the organization of the women's veterans movement joined the condemnation of such a statement. we do not need apologies, we need professional selection, a fair career growth mechanism, and the absence of barriers in education. it must be said that in the comments there were also posts in support of the military. someone said that it was just a bad idea, someone called on women to go to the military at the same level as men, saying that men are mobilized, but women are not, that men, or rather, are mobilized, but women are not, this is also discrimination, the fighter viktor rozovy himself, after the beginning of this wave of indignation , published a message on the x -former twitter network. it should be added that, as of october of this year, almost 43,000 servicemen are serving in the ranks, in the ranks, excuse me, of the defense forces of ukraine, and there are no job restrictions for women, they occupy both non-combat positions and fight on an equal footing with

men at the front. kateryna prymak, co-founder, veteran, volunteer is in touch with us. good morning to you. good morning. i i must say right away that we also invited viktor rozovy to participate in the broadcast today, the press officers of the brigade asked him, but he said that he was not ready to comment yet. ms. kateryna, the case we talked about actually discriminates against women. military, what do you think, is it really possible that this is just a bad joke that is not worth such a detailed discussion and such a violent reaction? i think if society is still discussing and it's relevant, there's probably a big demand for it, there's a big demand for equality kind of, there's a big demand for respect for women who fight, and that's right, of course, about the joke itself... my position is more

that the joke itself, it's demeaning, but it's not discriminatory, it's a product of the system , which actually discriminates against women, and despite the fact that in 2018, we worked as an advocacy campaign of the invisible battalion, thanks to which we actually opened 63 combat positions in the 18th year , and it is very annoying such a position that, like, what else do you need, women, you got the right to vote, there in 2018 from... you opened positions, what else is needed, but the question of equality is when actually all, ah, problems that were, all inequalities, society, in order to overcome them, yes, puts a little such a springboard

for those who were, more, subjected, type of inequality, i.e., conventionally speaking, now we have huge barriers in education for women in the army , accordingly, in order to level it a little, we need quotas there in order to overcome it, but why are they needed, actually, because until now, despite the fact that women seem to have all structural rights, it is often in the minds of people in the army there remains this stereotype that spoils... women's lives, but this stereotype is often present in people who work in the military, and actually there could be more women, if it were not a product of the system, including these jokes, but you and i will discuss this in more detail further on, i have to say that we are ready to give mr. viktor airtime as well, if he agrees,

to actually comment on our broadcast on all those, let’s say, accusations that are being made in his direction, on the other hand, in social networks, he i commented on this story and let's do it now listen to his actual position. i respect women who think differently, can go to. tell me what to pay attention to when being sexist. life hacks, pitfalls, maybe there is some literature, write only to people with experience. i'm just today the first day huh. ms. kateryna, actually, if we are discussing this particular joke and this particular incident, how do you think society's reaction was appropriate and how should society generally react to such jokes, for example. it causes some concern there a separate part of society? well, you know, i just see a little bit now from the other side , there are fewer women, fewer women are fighting on the front lines, why is that

another question, ah actually, it is very difficult that those women who have already achieved something. they are perceived as an exception, and this is wrong, because simply, it is not necessary , in some way, to pay a lot of attention to women , maybe in the army, it is necessary to pay a lot of attention, informational, i mean, a lot of attention should be paid, actually to the leveling of these bars' ers, which are real, but unfortunately, without informational attention, to overcome these barriers it turns out to be impossible, i think that many men who are fighting now have some kind of claim in their heads, and to the fact that the world is there now, it still gravitates towards some kind of justice, social, gender

equality, at least in words, because i don't really see that gender equality , which was proclaimed there during the president's speeches, where he always starts with the defenders and defenders like this, well, that this linguistic construct, it strongly influenced the actual situation in the army, but, however, without information support to change something very much it's difficult, but men, in spite of the fact that, well, there are about 5-60 of the 43 you mentioned on the forefront of women, that's what affects, these are men, like, well, why aren't they talking about us? and there is so much talk about women, but i just remember when we started the invisible battalion advocacy campaign, we also started with the media, because no one talked about the women who were at the front and when they got off the trains and everyone was greeted, yes, with flowers and

applause, women stood somewhere aside and their contribution was really invisible, and well, just ms. kateryna, but i just wanted to have a little discussion, look, in the army itself, in the army itself, because this is actually, if we are talking about a specific incident, it was actually the statement of an individual military officer, about this it should also be said, but in the army itself, what kind of discriminatory processes can women face, well, for example, i don’t know there, they are not given high military positions, for example, because we know, here is the commander of the medical forces of the armed forces of ukraine, this is a woman, this is a high position in the army yes, this is a high position in the lid, this is one and only female general, ah, if uh, talk about, there.

how, how they really like to send women to administrative clerical positions, well, for example, management positions are also quite bureaucratic, but nevertheless they, for some reason , there are many women businessmen and administrators, yes, but there are not many women managers, women generals are one of them , of all the armed forces until now, women who occupy... the highest rank there, it's there, major, lieutenant colonel, colonel, they, there were only half a percent back in the 20th year, when i was doing research, in fact, for a woman to achieve some career heights, ah, she needs to do a little more than at the behest of a man, ah, but in addition to the actual positions and for example what you said, a high military rank,

one of the highest in the armed forces of ukraine, has essentially only one woman, who is a general, who heads the army, actually the medical forces, what other facts of discrimination do women face, i do not know, it is possible with the fact, i do not know, that they are paid less salary than men, or there is no such thing, we do not have such a concept in ukraine as pay, but we have women who earn less, because they are usually in lower positions, but for women it is necessary, as such, there is no such obvious discrimination anymore, as a system, but there is no, for example, hygiene provision on the front lines, so there, well, this is about menstruation, if a woman starts it in the trench and there is no store, yes, she cannot go and buy it for herself, that is. this is such a detail that needs to be changed for women, for women there needs to be more doctors, gynecologists,

for example, than there are, why are there less of them, although the request is big, because a doctor from within the military system has to go through additional education to get additional specialization, does anyone want to go and spend three years in the army for the sake of women? no, of course, unfortunately, no, there only recently. introduced a mm introduced a female uniform, but this applies only to the summer suit, there is no winter suit, and also a woman, being of small size, will receive the smallest winter jacket, and it will obviously be big for her, because the sizes start with men's, for example, is such is her old legislation, it fully considers veterans, and it considers military servicemen first of all as men, for example, if

there is no procedure for submitting women to awards posthumously, because in the award, my lord, the award, as a reward, i apologize, ah, some kind of award, distinction, the wife of the deceased will be included in the procedure, if it is a posthumous matter. there is no man there, because, well, there are simply no women in these procedures. ms. kateryna, i thank you for voicing , in fact, these important things, i have to say, here the topic of our conversation, radio liberty reports that on thursday the united states senate approved the candidacy of admiral liza franchetti for the position of the head of the navy, making her the first woman to hold this position and the first member of the joint chiefs of staff, i.e., in different countries, such. .. women can also hold high positions in the armed forces of different countries. i thank you for joining our conversation , for bringing up this topic, kateryna prymak,

co-founder, veteran, volunteer, guest of our broadcast, and i must also say what we continue to say now about the consequences of the attack of russian forces on ukrainian cities, tonight in the lviv region, according to the reports of the head of the regional military administration maksym kozytsky, it was possible to destroy 11 drones, in total in the west of ukraine. 16 drones were flying, five of which hit a critical infrastructure object, there were no casualties, and the fire was promptly extinguished. ihor tusty, director of the department of civil protection of the lviv regional military administration, joins our broadcast at this moment, i congratulate i welcome you. mr. igor, thank you for finding the opportunity and time, please explain what is known as of now, what are the consequences of the actual attack by russian forces on the territory of lviv region, if you can say what kind of object it is, in fact, i also have all this i must say that you have already said, indeed, at night we received information from the

air command about the threat, accordingly , it was carried out. the night was quite long, there was anxiety, several waves of shaheds flew into the territory of our region, which means that, thanks to the successful actions of our military, the dominant most of these bunkers were destroyed, but unfortunately, we really hit one of the critical infrastructure objects, well, you understand the details, it is not correct to talk at the moment, there was a small fire, it was localized in time, but the main thing is that there are no victims. that there are no promoted ones, and this is probably the main thing that i can inform you about at the moment, there will be one more question , it is of such a general nature, i already asked it today to the representatives, actually to your colleagues from the kharkiv regional military administration, but if for example , kharkiv the border territory with the russian federation, lviv oblast is very far away, located on the border with the european union, that's what the russian forces set themselves as a goal when they attack

the lviv oblast, they want, i don't know, to frighten the population. to show that their drones there can reach any corner of ukraine, how do you in the regional military administration during the meetings, when you burn the consequences of these hits, explain what the military tells you at the meetings, in this context , of course all this is certainly happening, they demonstrate that they can fly somewhere, it can be threatening, they create a certain confusion in the heads of citizens, they want to scare in this way, they want to somehow, you don't know, come to the door yesterday and say that you have danger, but thank you... or to our military, we with honor and dignity, let's say, destroy all these threats that exist, we have already yesterday, the day before yesterday, i had anxiety again, when for a certain period of time there were no such threats, again i traditionally say that we, let's say, breathe a little easier and we think that everything is over, that the threat is passing, but as we can see, the enemy has enough

weapons, the threat can be daily, once again i call... all residents not to ignore the air alarm signal, to stay in shelter, well, we understand that the time 15 minutes, two hours, three hours, but there is no way to do that, we understand, we have an advantage over other regions of ukraine, so we still have a certain period of time to move from our home to the protective structure, or to a certain shelter, and we have the ability to understand whether danger is really approaching the flight path, we do not understand that it flies to one area, it turns out that the final point or goal is completely different areas, but all this must be understood, we are a nation of winners, i think that

everything will be a victory for us, so what. to you for joining, for finding an opportunity, i let me remind you that ihor tus, the director of the civil protection department of lviv ava, joined our broadcast about the consequences of the actual hits in the lviv region after the night attack. well, it must be said that president zelensky reacted to the attack of 40 shaheds on the territory of ukraine, he said that more than half were shot down and also noted that the air defense systems will actually be strengthened, they are currently working on this, in particular he noted the regions that were affected as a result of this... night attack, zelenskyi wrote about it in his telegram. i thank you for watching us, for trusting us, for subscribing to radio svoboda's youtube channel, to all our other platforms, this is important for quality information to actually take place and to share it with others, the svoboda ranok project, we wish you as much as possible a peaceful weekend, we will meet with you from monday, traditionally on radio liberty's youtube, as well as on the air of the tv channel, where you can also watch us,

take care! congratulations, it's news time on the espresso channel, kateryna shirokpoyas works with you in the studio. russia at night struck peaceful cities of ukraine again, according to the information of the air force. the enemy attacked with four dozen shock anti-aircraft missiles of the shachet type from the kursk region and the primorsko-akhtarska region. in addition, he launched one kh-59 guided air missile from the occupied kherson region. shaheds were launched in waves and they headed in different directions. an air alert was announced in most regions. air defense forces destroyed 24 shaheds and a missile