[000:00:00;00] and this is a problem in american politicians, or in ours as well, for example, the latest sociological survey says that 41% of americans believe that the united states provides too much support for ukraine, and compared to the figure in june of this year, it has grown significantly, because in june, there were 29% of such americans who thought so, they were questioned, of course, we see how it was reported on television that what a colossus... in ukraine, the figure is even manipulative, it was reported that ukraine has already received more than 100 billion there american dollars aid since the beginning of the russian withdrawal, in fact, as far as military aid is concerned, the number was real, the fact that in the form of weaponry there is a little more than 20 billion, the rest is also important, but about a third of this amount, it has nothing to do with ukraine at all little, but it was help

to africa, in fact. which was included simply situationally in the general bill, but informationally everything looked very powerful, although in fact, as someone noted that for 5% of the pentagon budget, the ukrainians, ugh, inflicted a powerful defeat on the second army of the world, all for 5%, so in this case, it is a sin to repeat, very cheaply, very badly hit the russian army, and there is a corresponding propaganda campaign to show that the united states is doing something shady, it is not shady, it is actually a minimal effort, and in this context, of course, that is exactly what we are making a bet by offering those positions that are recorded in the manifesto of sustainable peace, that the approaches must be reviewed urgently, because the defeat of ukraine will not only be the defeat

of ukraine, well, thank you very much for this conversation , mr. mykhailo, mykhailo gonchar, an expert on international energy and security issues and the president of the strategy 21 global studies center, was with us. after a short break, we will actually continue this topic, our next guest will be taras tets, and we will also talk a little about domestic politics and whether you can be a warring country and be a democratic country, because in fact this is the main thing now, let's say it like this, the main thing, the main thing, the main flag under which we attract western aid, stay with us. why am i here , i have sensitive teeth, eat ice cream, pain, cold air, pain, sweet, pain, the dentist prescribed lacakal sensitive, which effectively reduces the sensitivity of teeth, if i had known lacal sensitive earlier, i would not have had to come here at all, lacalot sensitive is a reliable protection against pain, runny nose, immediately snort

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to the next one, actually the next one has already appeared guest and we are here for a break, we are announcing our plans a little , what we will talk about, dear friends, taras tetsky, people's deputy of ukraine of the first, fourth and sixth convocations is already in our studio, mr. taras, we welcome you. good afternoon, i wanted to say, mr. taras, what happened recently , just before the previous guest, mykhailo gonchar and i were talking about it, that a lot of american politicians have appeared now, even american ones, who are not competent enough, and the proof of this is , by the way , a fairly popular republican and candidate, possibly for the presidency, vivek ramaswamy, an interview he gave to a famous british journalist, give me a memory, please, no one will give me a memory at this hour, okay, less than that, he gave an interview yu said in this interview, in particular, that we will simply freeze the war on the line

where it is, and somehow agree that ukraine will not be in nato, and simply in exchange for this, china will promise that they will not union with russia, it looks like a meganav, and a journalist, a british one, asks him, okay, that is, russia simply stole territories, killed people in democratic countries, and we simply give it to russia, to which ramasvani begins to object to him several times: ukraine is not a democratic country, ukraine is not a democratic country, ukraine is not a democratic country, eh, and this is next to the well-known story about corruption, this is another very serious narrative that i hear a lot now, that in reality ukraine is not so democratic. we are not doing so well in fact with the functioning of the parliament, we are not doing so well with the functioning free media, that there are problems with the telethon , the only news that is financed by the state, and again today i read that another 2 billion

will be allocated next year, we will again have a telethon, the only news for 2 billion hryvnias. in a word, to what extent is this a serious threat that ukraine will not be able to prove that we are a real democracy even in the conditions of war, is it important. well, the point of view of freezing the conflict is not a new point of view in the american politician, and not only in the american one, there is such a point of view, and we cannot turn a blind eye to it we can, as far as democracy or undemocraticness is concerned, well, this is the point of view of a specific politician, let's say, not the most popular in america, and there is not much to say about democracy here, i think that in the western world there is a consensus that ukraine is democracy. like any democracy, american or ukrainian, they have in the congress, we have in the parliament, there is such a diversity of opinions that we can get lost in this diversity when we talk about such things, the freezing of the conflict, or, for example, democracy in ukraine

whether it is democracy, corruption in ukraine or not corruption, then we must focus first of all on the official point of view, well, specifically the white house, it is the executive power, well, or the decision of the congress, well, the decision of the congress, no matter what we open, there are questions about corruption , such questions exist. and this is a direct rebuke to the ukrainian authorities, both current and previous , and this is homework that, unfortunately, ukraine does not fulfill, but there is such a thing, you know, when i am told about corruption, it is such a medal that has two sides, on one side there is not even anything to speak, ukraine should take steps in this direction, and on the other hand, i am categorically against the fight against corruption being replaced by security issues, well, when we knock on nato, they don't want us. give an invitation to nato and they pull out a greased card, they say, but you have corruption, this is wrong, because our answer is very simple, and when you hosted romania and bulgaria, was the level of corruption there lower or higher than in ukraine? about

the same, but you accepted them and being accepted into nato, that is, after receiving security issues, they they began to deal with corruption much faster, so here you need to, you know, approach this issue more objectively. and not to play along with those politicians in america who, for example, simply want to reduce aid to ukraine, in the confrontation with russia, or want, for example , to freeze the conflict, because they are worried about the opposition there. america and china, but ukraine must react very sharply to such things and not allow itself to be drawn into, well, such discussions, because these are discussions that are not in ukraine's interest, democracy, in addition to the fact that it characterized by the fact that once every 4-5 years there are general elections and they are recognized as being fair and competitive, but all the time between this election day, it also functions as that these people who were elected, they form different branches .

power, in particular, there is a parliament, the parliament creates a coalition or non-coalition government, the government is engaged in executive power, well, that is, there are these things called parliamentary democracy, but from the point of view of this, here i read, for example, the investigation of the ukrainian truth, from which it follows that in fact the government, government officials, in full and partial composition, receive direct instructions from the deputy heads of the president's office or from the head of the president's office. from the president himself, they go twice or more a week to report on the execution of orders, even such a thing as a mandate of the president of ukraine, it is now circulated in writing by the office very, very widely, although it actually concerns legislation before the adoption of the constitution, even, it is some kind of law kuchmy on instructions to the president, to the adoption of the constitution, let me remind you once again, that is, it has absolutely no legal relation to the state in which we live, the mandate of the president, the government, but nevertheless, all this is used as

absolutely legal tools, i mean it, when i say whether the parliament in a warring country should be a parliament, i.e. the people, whether the people voted for , for example, the situation in the energy sector to be decided by a person for whom they did not vote, a person whose purpose is unknown from where, whom we only we know that it was a person from the office of god, from the party of regions, from some... local cells there in zaporizhzhia or somewhere , i am talking about noise now, of course, i understand, i want to say that in ukraine since 2019 there has been a strong distortion of the parliamentary presidential model towards the presidential model branches of government, and this is an abnormal situation, in fact, and this was determined, well, by the vote of ukrainian society, first for zelensky, and later, the mandate of confidence in the parliament. creation of the monomajority and the extremely low

professional level of this monomajority also determined the situation that the parliament is a subdivision of president zelenskyi's administration and the government is a subdivision of president zelenskyi's administration, commanded by yermak. and such a thing , which i remember from the 90s, when we fought with kuchma, and told him that the constitution of ukraine and legislation. does not provide for instructions from the president of the government, does not provide for them, and kuchma gave them, and we seem to have overcome it, as if we overcame it, not quite, but we overcame it then, now after some time we see the same practice, well, we have to read the constitution, the president has no right to command the government, he does not have the right to give him orders, but we will not correct the current situation, because we have always, unfortunately, always in the 32 years of ukrainian independence had the desire of the presidents, well, maybe to

blame. kravchuk and yushchenko command the government, can it be fixed? well, probably the parliament will not fix it on its own, because there is no one there to fix it, if we talk about the independence of the government, then the way out, in my opinion , should be found only on the path of replacing the existing government with, well, here you can see the options, or with the government of technocrats, ugh or on a government of popular or national trust, well, according to the model of israel, is the current ukrainian executive power headed by zelensky capable of doing this, more likely no than yes, but this version exists, and i think that there is a mechanism to do such, such, so what it's called a transfer, uh, well, it's just direct pressure from the west, theoretically, if i don't know, they would have heard us there now, there are people in the president's office and they say, well, brilliant idea, they'll call you now 15 minutes after... they say, well, taras, come on, what is your

idea, on what, on what grounds, on what grounds criteria, we will assemble this government, how about cards in your hands, carte blanche, let's assemble a government, well, there is a world practice, we are in favor, especially in conditions of war, of inviting representatives of all parliamentary factions, well , ukrainian, you understand, we do not take these, and their leaders are invited to become ministers without portfolios , and their... factions are invited to submit candidacies for certain ministerial posts that are subject to agreement, well, most of the ministerial posts, of course, should go to the servants of the people, well, the ruling party, but not all. and well for example, 50% are in the service of the people, the remaining 50% belong to the factions that subscribe to the government of national trust, ugh, and then the last question, the most difficult is the candidacy and figure of the prime minister, ugh, who must be independent enough not to listen administration of the president, the logic of the government

of people's trust is to distance it, to create it as an independent subject of politics and executive activity. it is difficult to find such a figure, because even if the president or his entourage agree, they will want to replace the current prime minister candidacy, which is under their control, and that is why i say that if this venture is to be pursued, then this venture can be implemented only by direct pressure from the west, which gives money, uh, yes, well, specifically the united states of america, in my opinion, it would be the right move, and if by the end of the year it would be possible to do such a thing, it would, in my opinion, only benefit ukraine, and what does it give, what do we get in the event that, well, let's fantasize, as it was once called, for example, mr. rashkavan, former, manager, for example, that is, ot a man whose competence no one doubts, whose patriotism no one doubts, and also, no one doubts

, that he is not so stupid as to be a plaything in the hands of others, which he ultimately proved, because i, as far as i know, informal talks were held with him more than once, that is. for example, he says, okay, i am a leader and we will get such and such a prime minister with powerful ministries, where each ministry has powers, real budgets and real policies approved, where no one can interfere with office of the president, what we get in return, i think that we can get at least two advantages, the first advantage is the strengthening of the professional level, well, when we take, for example, even such a figure as rashkovan on the project and compare him with the current prime minister, well still there is a difference. in professionalism, in the scale of thinking, in the same independence, and secondly, when we create a coalition government instead of a monogovernment, the government we increase the level of public trust, and this is an important thing in the conditions of war, it is ukrainian unity that keeps us going for now, it is the key the factor that we are fighting and

fighting successfully, and the level of public trust , we look at sociological polls, and you see, the second year is coming to an end and gradually, gradually , trust in the president... of the parliament begins to fall little by little, and this is bad, it is bad for a country that is at war and that is leading to exhaustion, so such a step would increase the level of public trust in the government, professionalism plus the level of trust. mr. taras, if you recall the 2019 election campaign, volodymyr zelenskyi, for example, promised ukrainians then the candidate, that if he becomes the president, he will lower the prices of utility services, gas, electricity and so on will become cheaper, it was, and of course, that wise people explained that it is not the responsibility of the president, that the president is busy with other things, that it not at all from that, not from his sphere, and he cannot

promise such a thing, but people needed this sweet pill, you just say such things here, people in our country do not understand what the cabinet of ministers does, what he is responsible for, and for that doesn't match. what does the verkhovna rada do? who is responsible, what he is not responsible for, and what, where does the president's responsibility end and where should he somehow delve into all this, or speak on behalf of someone, when, for example, there is some good news, and he appropriates this news and speaks and announces them. it is necessary to explain to ukrainians what each branch of government does, something so elementary, but in reality, go out and ask. this, they will say, but we do not know, in fact our people really, really, well, poorly understand the level of competence or the sphere of responsibility of the government and the president, they mix everything into one, so to speak a heap, and it seems to them that this is how they voted for the president, then he is responsible for everything, you know, people can be forgiven for this,

but politicians cannot be forgiven, therefore, if the president was earlier actor, pom became a politician, then he must have time to read the constitution a little, learn and say that i am the president of ukraine, according to the constitution, unfortunately, unfortunately, dear ukrainian people, i am not responsible for the tariffs, this is a question government, i am responsible for external affairs politics, defense, what i will do, he doesn't say that, because he thinks that he wants, he thought that he will manage everything, but when you manage everything, then you are responsible for everything, even for what you cannot do according to the constitution and laws of ukraine. i can only spread my hands here and say: ukrainian democracy is still too young, 32 years, compared to 200 kopecks of years of american democracy, this is a little difference. there, this question has been worked out to the point of automatism, and the tradition there is already such that, well

it is, it would be nonsense, probably, if the president of the united states of america said that he would lower tariffs, by the way, there are actually very few examples of successful presidential models in the world, maybe even one, by and large, it is the united states itself , the united states itself, although in the united states itself there are more and more voices of constitutionalists that the presidential system. is very, very, it splits the country, firstly, because the winner gets too much, that's the way it is, that's the way it is, and although the american system has very large deterrence, after all, there is always a strong congress there, and the american system has that peculiarity, there is an incredibly strong judicial branch of government, it is, well, in ukraine such a model is like heaven, most likely in ukraine it is even impossible to implement such a model, so ukraine in my opinion the opinion should realize itself in principle, if not as a purely parliamentary model. at least real, i emphasize, real parliamentary-presidential, with such a clear division of powers and with legal responsibility for the violation of those

powers, then if we already have a president is engaged in foreign and defense policy, this is his sphere, he should sit there and not move further, but in this case it implies a very independent parliament, huh, and i hope that more such experiments as our ukrainian people allowed themselves in the 19th year , with the handing over of power to one party, well, apparently, this experience will not be repeated, yes, in ukraine the parliamentary model works well when there is a coalition majority, there is a two, three, and there is a strong opposition, then the parliament becomes a real branch of government, which forms the government, and then the government becomes more independent and independent from the president, well, if we have 254 votes, or rather in the 19th year, we had a monomajority in the parliament, and this monomajority was recruited on the street, well, actually on... it was recruited, there for today , well, i don’t want to say anything, well, there will be about two dozen adequate politicians who understand what parliamentarism is, then there will be

great success, all the rest are people who happened to fall in, who went under the zelskyi brand, and if they were to be sent now to majority district, then i think no one would won it, but you can't do such things about it, because it immediately distorts the model, he won't do anything if they are dependent on the president, they will listen to him, although you see, there is only a minute left. who to vote for, if we don't see the activities of this parliament now, and that's why we can't hold elections now, whatever happens, it will be possible, but we don't know, the same people will go, we don't know who they are, i adhere to that point of view , that elections can be held only after the end of martial law, after the end of the war, plus a transition period to prepare for the elections, a minimum of six months to launch the mechanisms of competition , to allow the parties to enter the political arena, to allow the parties to open their lists, so that people can read who is coming from which, dig into these lists, and then a truly democratic

elections, all those who think of holding elections under martial law are suicides, they will blow up ukraine with these elections during the war, unfortunately, they are not suicides, but murderers, i would say so, that's why, but i don't know or because i think c these people have golden parachutes and the opportunity to calmly, later on a yacht, as aristovych said, watch the illuminati for what is happening. thank god that we have a civil society that will not allow this, 100%. thank you, mr. taras, for the conversation, taras tetskyi, people's deputy of ukraine of the first, fourth and sixth convocations, was our guest. thank you, our dear viewers, for being with us today, andriy seichuk and i will be back on ether tomorrow at 7:10, and you stay with espresso, because espresso ether continues, and there will be much more from our colleagues, who will definitely tell you all about it, and don't forget to report to our army for our scouts, under... youtube broadcast, there is a description and all the details, and in the lower left corner there is a qr-code,

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