[000:00:00;00] will we get some solutions there that will really affect the battlefield, or does that mean that we then have an uncertainty factor as to when we will ensure that these solutions are integrated, and thus a question of positional warfare until technological solutions come to our aid, becomes such a factor that we will have to take into account and for a certain time act in the conditions of such trench warfare as we are currently acting in the confrontation with the russian federation, well, as far as i understand, trench warfare does not lead to defeat already next year, there simply it is said that strategically, if the trench war continues, as in the first world war, then russia wins in such a war because of its mass, but i think that it is still not mentioned that there are two months before the new year in order to resolve these question, of course you have to agree that there is uncertainty, otherwise there would be no need for such strategic

communication, to say that it is necessary is uncertainty in what i started with, the economist himself drew attention to this thesis that in the first world war, did not wait for the technological changes of any of the parties and in the end politics intervened, this suggests that even now there is no such complete confidence that technology will decide the fate of this war and politics will intervene, that is, one of the sides will not simply endure, and there is also a hint that it is not necessary... this there will be a ukraine that will not survive, because there are many factors in russia itself, but in the end , the task is shown, i think, after all , it is not said there that everything must be 100%, must be solved, but certain certain, i don't exclude that, well, i wouldn't be surprised if

they found out, let's say, in a month again the effectiveness of hymars and atakus has become dramatically higher, that is, some ground signal stations have appeared that allow, well , allow to restore this accuracy, i was not surprised by this, but there are certainly such sentences, it seems to me that demining is the most difficult problem and from what was mentioned, from something that is very uncertain, because there is no such technology on certain technologies in order to pass such minefields, therefore... therefore, of course, not everything, but there are things, which i think are defined that they can already be quickly resolved. oleksiy, can it be assumed that, conditionally speaking, this publication in the economist will be such a certain argument for the same american partners of ours who say that we want to see a plan, victories or a victory program there, then from the ukrainian side we will say that our strategy, which includes four

technological areas. if you help to really get involved there, then we can talk about some success on the battlefield, if not, then relatively speaking, well, we have what we have, well, me it seems that these processes are connected, and those processes, more or less, i think are positive, that are taking place in the house of representatives of the us congress now regarding the vote, regarding ukraine, well, after all, there are positive statements being made, even from all spectrums, that help must be. then the question arises as to what this aid is for, it cannot be as before , here we see what it is for, it is said here, honestly, what, in the end, the situation for ukraine may not even be the same, if you look at the tone of western publications, maybe not even as strict as for israel, there at all, there they hint at the need for political changes, they directly say that netanyahu should

go, that's what, and then, and then... money is given for that, after all, we don't have such a situation, yes, we say about the fact that explain how you are trying to restore maneuver warfare, the explanation has been given, well, it seems, well, maybe there are some additional political demands, but we are not hearing them publicly now, we now see that there is a plan for restoration, well, let's move on , maintaining the offensive and resuming the intensive de-occupation, so to speak. and see from the other side on the other hand, there are still positive discussions regarding the provision of a large aid package before the presidential elections of the united states, here it is necessary to understand that the money, the decision that is being taken now regarding the money for ukraine, is the setting of a limit, it is does not mean that the money that will be given right now is decided, it

is the limit that is determined, the limit for... per year at least and within this limit already at the level of the administration, at the level of our government, these small packages will be constantly clarified, there are 500 million, 300 m each, which will be received regularly every month, but here is a principled decision, that there is a vision and there is a readiness of the united states to continue helping, well, i would say that we are in no worse condition than israel. oleksiy, then the question arises, we are now paying attention to the fact that this publication is directed at our foreign partners, because it was published in a foreign edition, it is guaranteed that everyone who is related to the problems of ukraine will read it there, and then, or this public. these technological trends pose some challenges to our structures there is the ministry of strategy and industry, the ministry of defense, the ministry of digital, in order to somehow meet these needs, which general zaluzhnyi sounds like for

foreign partners, what should we do ourselves? well, of course, that's all, well, it's just a question of how internal communication takes place, that if it turns out that this article, external publication is news for another part of the system, well, the security and defense system, well then, then it's wrong, i would still like to believe that this is such a coordinated thing, and everyone understands what needs to be done, and such a joint, well, joint application externally made, but of course, first, any, any, any...' such a technological solution, it is in addition to the actual western weapons, which should already arrive modernized, what i said, protected by gps signal and well, what needs to be done, the rest should be done first of all by ukraine

with the help of our partners, well, yes, it is true, but if we do not succeed, and we say, do something else and something else for us, well, i i do not rule out that this is possible, but additional explanations will be necessary, and why exactly you can't do it, well, here's your money, here's a technological help, and what you can't do, but first of all, apart from what i said that certain, it said that certain western weapons have to be modified to work in these new conditions, but the rest, well, mostly we have to do it with the help of our partners. alexey, thank you very much for taking the time to explain these to our viewers, for your expertise. evaluation, i will remind our viewers that it was oleksiy yezhak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, and we will talk later about one of the five directions that valery zaluzhnyi offers for a radical qualitative

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12:10. we continue. our military program, where we seek to assess the technological directions of the transformation of the ukrainian army, based on valery zalozhny modern positional warfare and how to win in it, there valery zalozhny says that in order to increase efficiency, it is necessary to develop and increase the potential of the ukrainian defense industry, which absolutely logically, but when we are talking about those four technological directions, then one of them concerns dominance in the air precisely at the expense of addressing the issue and the development of the direction of the use

of drones for various purposes, and now we are joined by the chairman of the board of the new energy alliance of ukraine, the commander of the white eagle special unit of strike drones valery borovyk. mr. valery, i congratulate you, glad to see and hear. greetings, greetings to all. i am sure that you, like everyone involved in military activities, carefully read the interview of valery zaluzhny and these proposals, commander-in-chief. regarding the use of drones in different areas, what are your general opinions after reading these posts? well, quite frankly, clearly, clearly with the definition of the strategy and with the definition of what is necessary , as well as with a rather critical analysis of the situation, which is a sober assessment of the potential of the russian federation and the gains that,

unfortunately, our enemy was able to make during this time achieve, as well as with those where we want to go, what goals to achieve and what to concentrate on, a fairly balanced, balanced and such a clear interview, i liked. and when we talk about the direction related to unmanned systems, where valery zolozhnyi says that it is necessary to create a swarm application of systems that should jam the russian anti-aircraft system. of defense, to provide different versions of drones that can, well, work in rere conditions and so on, to the extent that it currently corresponds to the potential, the technical potential, at which our enterprises are located, which manufacture, serially develop, serially manufacture drones of various purposes, which b you said whether you could implement the requirements that are required for new samples of disembodied subjects at the facilities of your enterprise in particular.

look, the requirements are quite, quite correct, eh, the question is, i am comparing what i am chasing with eh, using rebu and countering rebu, you know, like with doping, yes, who, who faster, will make a new decision, a new invention, who will advance faster will rule the sky for this particular period, if we are talking about drones, so that's right, in doping there is an anti-doping checking how fast it goes, along with how doping is made, yes, and here we can say that russia, unfortunately , today, is one step ahead, it has quite seriously in these six months even increased its capacities and technological including in the rap plan, i.e. in the counteraction system... and drones and in the system

of reb jamming drones, they were already one of the leaders, now they have taken the lessons from the previous year and made changes to their decision, and we feel it, the last one our departure in the zaporozhye direction is, in principle, a loss of drones, and few people can counter these systems constantly, that is , it is a constant struggle, tactics of application, you look for these gaps in the total, rebov, rebov countermeasures, you look for when in changing them there, that is, these walls, conventionally speaking, of radio-electronic warfare, is necessary, i will decide to fight them not only there with technological solutions, but also with tactical application, but first of all , of course, it is necessary

to do this with technological solutions, as far as the ability in this, well, look, we are after the last departure, we are now changing one decision. we understand how to change it, what was bothering us, and we will leave the east, use it there for several weeks, so what is good , for example, unfortunately for manufacturers, what is unfortunately for manufacturers, because it is happening on our land, but ukraine is now a training ground for such military technologies where manufacturers can, mr. valery, request that you open the microphone, it seems that you must have closed it, and it is not quite audible to our viewers, now it's better, yes, and if you, in principle, now continue to use your complexes, which are quite a lot, just

last week there were publications that your company is setting up a mass serial production of an attack drone. repulsion, so the question arises, how is scaling ensured, are there any current problems that you are solving, and how this funding, which was directed to the fact that there is 40 billion uah for the manufacture of drones, how did it reach your company, if until it happened, it happens at one's own expense sources, as well as with those, let's say, special forces relations that go. out of state contracts, we are currently preparing several solutions for special ones, now we are forced to call you back because the audience cannot hear, we will call you again now, let me remind you that this is valery borovyk, the chairman of the board of the new energy alliance

of ukraine, this alliance is brings together a number of companies that manufacture strike reconnaissance drones, among them drones like these, which have actually been destroying the enemy on the front lines for a long time, and mr. valeria, i ask that you continued your opinion on how scaling is ensured, at what expense and whether the state's assistance is primarily financial, from the point of view of ensuring that more of the models that are needed on the battlefield are manufactured, unfortunately, unfortunately, with a contract now the conclusion procedure is still going on, but eh, you know, what are we dealing with, that the state intelligence service, in the person of specialists who deal with drone topics, has taken over the functions of assessing the combat capability, price policy, and so on, that is why they are

currently no, they fully perform resolution 256, where you give all the documents, give the need, we need several special forces, and they have to sign a contract and provide security, provide financing, now we have already produced a sufficient number of drones to provide the first batch, but so far we do not have a signed contract, and this is a problem and not only ours, i think that we will now very seriously analyze how these funds were allocated, to whom they were allocated, to which companies, who, and who will actually be able to fulfill the delivered volumes, which were prescribed in contracts, because it turns out, it may turn out in such a way that some companies have recorded large amounts of finance for themselves, not you, will not be able to fulfill them until the end of the year, there is a re-signing of, for example, additional agreements for the next year, and at the same time, those

companies that did not sign up, cannot produce products at the expense of state funding, and one other very serious issue, this, the policy of evaluation and formation of positions, was allocated by the state, an institute that should evaluate, in fact, your complex. when the institute evaluates this complex, it already sets the final version of the assessment, according to those parameters that are prescribed in - well, in all of them in all the necessary documents, but... the state special communications service may not accept this assessment or freeze it and say that it is not so, for example, here is a drone , if he is not talking about withdrawal, i challenge.

we said, it is being compared, compared with fpv drones made by china, which have now been bought a lot, and which are actually made from chinese components, there is nothing ukrainian there, we have, we have a drone that is not fpv, we have a drone that performs tasks mission that hangs over over the target, who works under the reb and not only under the reb, but zeltaym dems , who performs special operations, which we will not talk about further, and in fact, these, let's say so, unprofessional assessments of incompetence, they lead to the fact that it becomes such a brand, and look, here, the sediments compare this drone and this one, made from ukrainian components, made from ukrainian parts, made using completely different technologies, with something that is simply assembled from a hobbyist, and such things happen, not

only z, e drone wasp, for example, with a drone the rebuttal, all the documents have been collected, but somewhere there is a delay in meeting, holding a meeting and so on, and time is running out, we need to purchase the complete set, we need to continue to produce it, so we are currently working on our own funds , on the funds of those that we are attracting, and we are analyzing how we can join next week, we will see next week, if there is no contracting, we will take the following actions and seriously consider some legal aspects, and as i understand , mr. valery, it is about just about the money that goes through the ministry of digital and contracts with the ministry of digital transformation, and or with the state communications, these are not contracts with the ministry of defense, that is, the expression hoped that the fightback would go exactly along this line, which was considered the most flexible and most adequate

regarding interaction with state bodies, but we see that in reality we are slowly entering such a dead end, and then the question is, what about the ministry of defense, it seems to have made simplified decisions regarding the purchase of drones, rep systems, does this give you such a window opportunities to readjust and start working then with the ministry of defense, we, we are working in parallel with the ministry of defense, right now we are doing well, the military leaders are watching the production, the assessment is being made and so on, that is, it is a parallel path, yes, it is not possible here to say that the first, the first way is the ministry of statistics, the ministry of statistics gives all its, let's say, work experience, evaluation of companies and so on, it gives all this to the state special communications, the money, the budget allocated for the state special communications and the state special communications. in the end signs

contracts for the supply of goods, never they eh, they even go ahead, well, it’s very strange, for example, they can call the special unit, whether it’s the customer there in the person of eh, the chiefs of the bpp, the kind of troops and say, listen, it’s better for you not to contract with so-so, i’m contracting so-and-so, we already see several such trends, and well, this is a very ugly bell, because the state communications is actually a structure that must accept the documents, if they all correspond to the 256th resolution, hold commission meetings and contract according to the needs of the special units, according to the needs of the armed forces, there, the national guard, the sbu, guru and so on, it takes on non-proprietary and, in principle, bordering on exceeding the powers of the state body and representatives of the state body, then when

they start entering the pariah is already an important point, i ask you to definitely renew the connection once again, because what you say is beginning to disappear, i want the audience to hear it. so that i can hear it, there is no sound right now , i will remind you that this is valery borovyk, the chairman of the board of the new energy of ukraine association, it is about the production and scaling of drone production, because we know that in we have been declared there in significant sums for their production, but we see that this way of creation and production, it is now again running into some strange bureaucratic obstacles, because, relatively speaking, the state technical service, a structure that should not evaluate the samples, is now actually acting

brake of these processes, and mr. valery, i would like to clarify, it is about a situation related only to your company, where the method of actions of the state special communications is typical for other companies that are engaged in the production of drones and offer them for the needs of the defense forces, well in i don't have statistics on how many companies are in the same situation, but i know that there are several companies that are in a similar situation, of course i can't speak for my colleagues, i can't speak for those colleagues who received contracts and their , the main thing is that everything is transparent, clear, honest, and let's just say so, such, according to the same procedure for all companies, not so that one company received more, could not fulfill, postponed this contract to the next year , and at the same time other companies do not perform, not that that

are not performed, not contracted and are not contracted or financed, this is unacceptable, and of course we have to conduct an analysis of how funds were allocated, what were the results of the allocation of funds, what were the results of impressions, how many funds were allocated, for example from these 40 billion for the purchase of non-ukrainian manufacturers and how effectively it was used, that is why we are talking to the market participants that we should go for ukrainian production, for localization so that we do not depend on our friendly partners now, nor on potential enemies and those , who supports our enemy, that is why we need to make ukrainian production, and not to finance china or other countries, and to what extent are these programs approved by the cabinet of ministers now, which will be approved in the future, to the extent that they

allow the implementation of this strategy, ukrainian production, the ukrainian military, segments of the defense of ukraine, that is why this entire analysis must be carried out, we have already started conducting it, because well, we concentrated on two apparatuses, and today we, we deal with them and we do, but we did not see, after the assessment of the mini-ministry of digital transformation, they did a great job. when it went into the contracting stage, we were faced with the issues that i raised and they need to be removed, you remember we talked on the last program about the procedures that prevented the admission to operation, and we raised this issue very seriously before the general staff, or before the ministry of defense, the ministry of statistics, and so on, and now these procedures

have been changed, and it is very good that the state is reacting on the way, the market is slowed down because of procedures that, well, are not typical of a military situation, it is also necessary to check whether everything is working correctly in those bodies that are responsible for contracting, drones, for the saturation of drones, the front line, that’s all companies that have capabilities, such as ours, rated capabilities, have, have experience. have products, have a place to use and have needs from the defense forces of ukraine, as far as they are all contracted, so it was transparent, clear and honest, therefore that i know that there are now and will be audits, i understood the main challenges, thank you very much for these new data, it is extremely important for our

society, we will follow this issue, it is extremely important. repeats, i will remind our viewers that valery borovyk was on the air, he is the commander of the white eagle special unit of strike drones. and then, the broadcast will continue with the news, so stay tuned to the espresso channel. in ukraine and news time on the espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. the people's deputy became a participant in the fatal accident road accident in the morning, an 18-year-old girl died on the kyiv highway. the tragedy happened in the village of berezivka, zhytomyr district. the driver hit