[000:00:00;00] conditions i know why the trip didn't happen then but he could have made more conditions to make it happen sooner well if it happens now it's the right gesture and brave enough you said you know why then the trip did not take place, and why, well, there were a lot of different factors , in particular, the visit of the americans, well, you understand that there are still certain priorities, after all, the visit of blinkin, the usa, the visit of the prime minister was more important for them of the minister, of the country that opened the corridor for evacuation, yes, but i understand that too, but still in many ways, ukraine was in a position of support and not so many world leaders immediately wanted to come, in fact, that's why time matters, but let's be honest, we

had a difficult period when neither our ambassador nor our ambassador was allowed into the offices, well, i i will not say why this happened, it is also known, but now i really hope that this visit of the president, god forbid that it happens, but also happens safely, it can really change the approaches of the two countries, and i really hope that israel will also make certain conclusions from the previous line of hope for putin that he will be able to keep hamas at bay, and now the situation has changed, i don't know how ready prime minister netanyahu is to talk about new conditions, but the fact that we can cooperate closer to military-technical cooperation is obviously, and israel also has something that can help ukraine, and we can do some things for israel, that is, we are in the same boat now, and such a visit would be timely, but

how do you think this visit is now equal to white home, here is the background of all discussions regarding military aid to ukraine and israel , you are pushing me on a slippery path, no, i am pushing you on the path of realism, it is always slippery, the usa does not need it, it is not necessary, no, why? well, because the us is leading its line , in which it obviously has leverage, it has, that means, there are aircraft carriers here, it has groups, we will not offer this to israel in any way yet. but, well, maybe it is necessary only in one way, which is still official, and president biden and secretary of state blinkin combine two issues, yes, we see it, and it is right, and combine israel and ukraine in terms of financing. perhaps it will help, if a quick visit of the president of ukraine is made, it will help the acceptance of a package of financial aid

to israel. this is in the interests of white, this interest exists, the interests of others, well, honestly, i don’t see it, because the usa has its own leverage here, it is unlikely that we will add anything to them militarily, when we receive this help from them, please tell me in in principle, if we talk about what is currently happening in the american congress, how do you react to this letter from eight republicans to the president of the united states, where indicated. where the conditions of military aid to ukraine are specified, yes, in general, what is possible , i read it very carefully, i think that it is not necessary to get carried away with the points that relate to pressure on the administration, to strengthen aid to ukraine, there are very interesting points there, see what types weapons are needed for victory, i have analyzed this situation, i will tell you my conclusion, this is a delicate game and we do not

need it, we need... now as soon as possible a vote on aid, and here are all the maneuvers, let them leave it for some other countries, so what immediately follows in these points, the first position, such assistance as it is provided now, monthly is not necessary, here is the conclusion, and then some questions want to be asked, well, i have already read the conclusion is not necessary, i generally perceive it as delaying the process and if they want to push the administration to take more decisive actions on weapons, then this was done by another group of congressmen, so more traditional republicans, who are calling on joseph biden to provide the missiles that have already gone to atacamus only at an even greater distance of 300 km, so in principle, i believe that this eye these so-called conditions will not bring anything good in this situation, we need a quick solution to the issue, because we are fighting on

the front right now, that's all for... where do the republicans want to bargain later, it's obvious, bargain for money on in the interests of their voters, the interests of republican voters - this strengthening of security serves. states, in particular on the border with mexico. i will tell you by the way, these are the right requirements , that's right, i was there, they showed me the border, and i saw how the relevant services work at the border, there is a difficult situation there, there is also smuggling, there are tunnels under all these barriers, there is a very difficult situation on this border, but to trade at the expense of ukraine, to do this, i think that it would be enough, well, unfair, well, i understand that the positions are now more strong in the senate because senators continue to insist that packages should be combined? yes, the vote took place in the house of representatives, then it will be in the senate, they can return their version, yes, that is, they will return

the package again. joseph biden is enough and the administration expressed quite strongly that they can make a covenant, even a law against israel, yes, imagine, mr. vitali, who in america will dare to...' help israel. well, i also have a question, what will it look like in reality, it will come together, and i will tell you how, and they put arres there, well, it’s their taxes, they are this money, cunningly, they want to take it, these money, so that the democratic voters criticized and the republican voters applauded, linked it to money from the taxes of one or another group of the population, and therefore joseph biden, for all the reasons, can safely say that, not because he is against aid to israel, but because the republicans lead an internal party group, and this is, by the way, well, the republicans, it's not all of them, it's just

the group that until she managed to appoint her representative to the position of the speaker of the house of representatives, a very important position. i will tell you more, he is now, johnson is the leader of the republicans in the senate, not a midwife. because if a party has a minority in the senate, then their leader in the house of representatives becomes the leader of the entire congress, and the entire representatives are controlled by johnson. therefore, he is playing his game, he has been saying this for a long time, he has long been offering to divide this aid himself, but the fact that the position of the white house has become more rigid, it is right, i think in these conditions to let this great group of republicans play their domestic political card, it's not about security issues, and frankly, well, it looks quite, i don't want to sound cynical, but unfair to ukraine, moreover,

i believe that if the package does not pass, we will see a substantial reduction in aid to ukraine, you see, there is such a question here, how much risk can biden take, i read before this broadcast, an article in the new york times, which says that now american jews, who are usually supporters of the democrats and their such, i would say classic electorate, they now, when it comes to the middle east, they generally watch television reports from foxnews, a channel that is precisely associated with people like donald trump, like miles johnson, and let's just say this, this first step into a different informational reality, it can be very dangerous for biden if he is going to be re-elected for a second term? well, i don't quite agree with you because the support

for israel is bipartisan and they, if you 're talking about the perception of the picture, yes, the voters, that's right, but the voters are happy with the result. these are maneuvers for now, which will not drag on for a month or two, if it is decided in days, and i really hope that by november 17, when they have to decide to prevent a shutdown, they will vote on it, moreover, they can to vote simultaneously, more precisely can joseph biden sign a package on israel at the same time, well, if it is not possible to unite israel and ukraine at the same time, it is very possible, so the fact that he went for such, well, i can agree, yes, maybe there are such risks, if it drags on, in short, i don't think he's taking any chances because the committee, the israel in america committee, or rather the jewish committee in

america, he understands what we're talking about now, and so basically they need a result, but again, if on november 17, all these issues will be voted on one way or another, no negative reaction. tell me, in principle, if we are talking about how the situation will change in relation to ukraine, in connection with... with public opinion, which can be dictated one way or another by the western media world, well , let's say, is this text time, general zaluzhnyi's essay on economy, how does it affect the western political elite in general? well, this is a good question, because we only considered how it affects ukraine, it was not published in ukraine, but it is paradoxical. in this way

, most of everything will flow in ukraine, that is, in ukraine it moved so many layers that i'm even surprised how two articles can change the situation like that, well because they can just be about something different than it was before, well people just saw what's going on behind the scenes, i 'll tell you more, right now simon shuster confirmed that he did conduct these interviews with the current, with the current advisers about. i sincerely believe in this, listen, if a person walks around the office, talks to the president himself, why should he, why should other officials not talk to him? no, there was speculation that those who were not responsible for anything there were already there, well no we will name their names, but they are no longer in ukraine, but those who gave interviews, they are all in positions now, they are responsible for our foreign policy and our security, and they really doubt their success, this is a dangerous scenario, but the economist is a little leveled the situation... of ukrainians, but did not level the name,

i will explain why? well, i have talked with maybe three or four people abroad, their perception, i myself, i am interested , it means that they perceive in general and that material is directed in one direction, that the situation has entered a certain moment, a new stage, and this new stage requires some new decisions, and this, the reverse, you know what they asked, asked, well, two asked, i think, whether this article is feasible, confirmed, read by the president , well, a good question, by the way, i would have asked it to you too, if i were a western expert, i don’t know, i don’t know, my, my impression is that it’s difficult, well, in fact, there is a way

to synchronize, and in two magazines there are their own certain terms of exit, theoretically it is possible if it was such a maneuver very fast, with office of the president and they involved general zaluzhny, and together they made such a hit, well, brilliant, but mr. vitaly, you know, this one is unrealistic, unfortunately, so some, some events will be such that we will not have time to observe them there somehow, i am with with fear, i am waiting for some article, or on the contrary with hope, an article by the prime minister of ukraine, somewhere forbes , well, the only thing that the russians bought is forbes, let's not forbes, well, there is another publication of such a scale, where he will say about that in fact everything is good, that we are developing, washing corruption, we are shortening, so let's wait,

the article of the prime minister of ukraine in the next magazine. thank you, mr. valery, valery chaly, the ambassador of ukraine to the united states, in 2015, 2019, the diplomat was on our air, we talked about these risks that exist today in terms of supporting ukraine in the united states, about how the situation is changing : in the world in connection with the war in the middle east, indeed today she received a message that the president of ukraine volodymyr zelensky next week will visit israel with the first a solidarity visit after the terrorist attack on this country and we will of course be following this visit closely as well, i think, as will most of the world media, because it will be a very important trip, and we're going to break now for literally five minutes, maybe even less, but... stay with us, because

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of the front. freedom life frankly and impartially. you draw your own conclusions. we continue our information broadcast and we will talk now with elya paanarev, the russian opposition, former member of the state duma of the russian federation, congratulations, mr. ilya, but we can't hear you, we can see, well, but we can't hear you, but i can hear you perfectly, you see, i'm you now i hear perfectly, so please tell me, it was you who provoked this funeral in dagestan, because i read it all the time from everyone i can, not only from russian, official sources, but from our mutual acquaintances, russians like you their to call liberals, well, it is these so-called liberals, they spread all this, they are all this very much to me, i want to understand why, why and who is prominent, you know, it is better

to transfer the main russian issues of the 20th century to the 21st, well, first the source is leonid volkov, i.e. the former head of the novalnitsa structure... vilnius, who was released due to bribery, well, he was the one who generated it from the very beginning, this is the volkov who called for the lifting of sanctions against friedman, just like that, just because of that and was fired, and yes, very very dignified, and when the kremlin heard about it, of course they decided, here is bingwano, they will use it, well, that’s how it started, but it’s already there and i already read there in the insider and in medusa and somewhere else that they they understand that i'm not here, no, no, no, i 'm actually, i know what kind of channel it is. cooperated with them there, more than a year ago, when

we stopped the mobilization in dagestan, and there we actually saved many lives, with these islamists who run this channel, there are about 1000 dagestanis, who deserted from front and returned to dagestan, well, the mobilization there was simply stopped because of the armed... protest that was unfolding in dagestan, but after that, of course, they are there by themselves and i have no relation to them, that is, you are not the owner of this channel and you did not establish it, nothing like that happened, this is a dagestan channel , by itself, no, we created it once there, a year and a half, a year, a year ago, and after that, that ’s all, they control it, i have no business there it has nothing to do with it, and how do you... evaluate

these events, but in principle, they, let's say, artificial, organized by the russian special services, is this such an explosion, dissatisfaction, let's say this, such mass radicalism, what is it at all , because there have never been anti-semitic actions in estonia, well, well, well, there were once there in the 17th and 18th centuries, well, i don't know , can it be called anti-semitic actions, the mountain jews had their own relations with the dagestan khans, well , that's all. well, first of all, this place where there was , there was this khazar kaganate, yes, and there remained many mountain jews, tats, in the caucasus, of course, and these pogroms, well, generally speaking, this is not against the jews as an ethnicity, it is against the jews as a religion , and this is an action of solidarity with hamas , well, that is, solidarity with a terrorist

group, in israel, that is why, of course, i feel very bad about it, as , how can one express solidarity with those who are killing the civilian population there, peaceful citizens, well , this is this is simply impossible, and whatever motives there are, they cannot justify such events, well, once again. russian special services, what role did they play, organize, just watched, missed the danger that you choose from these options, well, we understand that for mr. putin the ideal is the brezhnev era, in the brezhnev era such soft anti-semitism was almost official, the ideology of the country, well, i apologize, it is not soft which, it is not soft, soft - what to compare it with, because there is hard anti-semitism, there is hitlerism, there is

such a thing, when officially it is not there, but in reality it is, and here they are back in these times, i think , that it is very organic for them, that is, many people who work in special services, they are actually anti-semitic and i don't think they had any role there in organizing it, i think it was from the bottom, but the fact that they didn't stop it and we saw a lot of police officers just participating in these pogroms, and this applies not only to dagestan, but it also happened in chechnya, and there kadyrov, by the way, took a break for two days, and then it happened in nalchik and in cherkessk and in other cities. the north caucasus, that is, it is a fundamental problem for this regime and its

development is very logical. why do you think putin? accuses ukraine of organizing all this, not even the west, but ukraine. well, that 's what he always does, his position is that ukraine is home to these nazis, and he always accused us of the anti-semitism of the jew zelsky. er, and this is just an official principle, an almost official principle of his policy, the fool himself, and how, as father fyodor said, well, no one believes it, i am now in washington, we talked a lot about it here with the official persons, americans, and they understand that, of course, that the responsibility for this, well, that's on it 100% for putin. if we talk about the domestic political situation, did you see, i don’t know, did you see putin’s speech today in front of the members of the public chamber, when

he told practically the same thing about ukraine that he always told, that no ukraine existed, that these three oblasts, to which other oblasts were added, and russia was ready to agree to this, until they began to persecute russians in this ukraine, so what to do with this unchanged position, because if you look realistically, it means that putin will stick to this idea the non-existence of ukraine all the time, so that it does not happen, well, of course, someone is surprised by this again, well, he will stand on this position, of course, this is his position, and until we destroy him, then he will stand on it and the war will continue , that's why, once again here in the west, people need to be explained that it is not changes in russia that will begin when we win in ukraine, but the end

of the war in ukraine and israel and, in other parts of the world, when we destroy this regime , on the contrary, well, the potential of this regime now does not look like what it will take now it will be destroyed, you know, but, well, look, it is very unstable, and these pogroms themselves are an illustration of this, ah, now it is very fragile, and, beautiful, beautiful, we remember, they have already there are drones flying inside. countries, no, i believe that putin is a person who is not fully in control of the situation now, he does not even fully control his own environment, well, it is like in the last days of the soviet union, we observed the same thing there, and the fate of the russian federation will be the same too, but can you

tell me more about the environment, what is happening there? well, you saw there, the disputes between, there, shoigu, and prigozhin, there is a contradiction that exists, there, kadyrov tried to seize the position of the minister of defense, once, then stopped, left there, zolotov claims, there, there are questions about , patrusheva, medvedev and myshustin are arguing and competing over which of them will be the recipient of mr. putin, so there are a lot of tension lines, and this is very beneficial to us, but it is necessary for ukraine to declare its rights to a solution, how the situation will develop after the victory in this war, so that neither there nor the united states do it

states, not there, great britain or germany. ukraine, as a victorious country, needs it, it needs to decide what will happen there, it needs to ensure that there are reparations, that war criminals are punished, that the most important thing is that all this space, after victory, that it be staked, but tell me please , this is what shoigu said about the readiness for some negotiations on the end of the war with measures with ukraine, which means, well, now the main thing that is still holding the situation inside russia is the hope that the united states, in the future in the spring, will force ukraine to sit down at the negotiating table and agree that there will be a certain truce, ah, they are sure of this, here of this,

both the kremlin and the russian opposition are sure of this. and this hope keeps a certain part of the elite there from coming to the side of good and negotiating with the west, and it keeps the opposition from supporting the russian military units that, together with the ssu, are fighting against this aggression, and this is very it is an important matter, and that is why it is necessary to explain it to everyone at the event there. explain that this is dangerous, and please stop all this talk that we will sit down and negotiate, and ukraine will never agree to this, as far as it can be assumed that when xi jinping goes to san francisco in just a few days, he will talk with joseph biden, that he will be an advocate of putin's position, do you think russia will use china, or china russia in such