[000:00:00;00] it is necessary to help in a timely and high-quality manner, i think it will be, they always say red lines, like if you cross this one, well, you will definitely get a slipper, and this one, well, yes, yes, there will be a slipper, but for americans, what red lines are there, what are they they set themselves as red lines, yes, what they set, we have already crossed several lines, we mentioned about crimea , to touch crimea, i mean, russia will do it now, yes, and we will assume that russia crossed the red line. no, well , first of all, i am indirectly involved, there it is clear that the ears of the iranian and their proxy forces are sticking out, russia of course supports, it politically supports the terrorist group, and the weapons that bucinta ukraine sold and so on, that is , of course, that this is this, but the direct

participation of russia so far... nothing has been proven, i think that after some time we will find out about possible planning, about possible training, and by the way, literally, yesterday there was talk about reuters or someone said that the so-called wagner, well, company to give means an air defense system, well, for now we did not see it, and of course everyone will immediately understand where it came from, so this is israel - it is completely different, but nuclear weapons, yes, but exaggerated fears, let's say so, in the united states, of what russia will do, the last, let's say, maybe three months there, the rhetoric has stuck with the russians, it's a simple thing, deterrence works, because deterrence, if the number of weapons is the same, they are not ready to use them, then deterrence does not work, thank god that the americans have already dealt with with their fears and they are, in principle, signals, make it clear, what will be bad, russia is not stupid and putin can show that he has it there

, let's say, how is the bar, let's say, reaction, it is quite low there, but in any case he understands what will happen to him and from everyone will turn away from him, even his chinese friends, i am not talking about the so-called global south, the rest of the global south, by the way , china also took a very clear position on nuclear weapons from the very beginning, speaking clearly to russia, by the way, this was said by the former presidents of ukraine, no no nuclear power can blackmail, threaten stagnation nuclear weapons, to a non-nuclear state or other states, sir, let's go, nuclear weapons are clear, nuclear. blackmail, nuclear terror, well, we saw a rocket a week ago that flew to a nuclear plant, yes, and before that we saw the seizure and ongoing seizure of the zaporizhia nuclear plant and so on, how about this for the americans, this is a red line, for the americans this is a red line and i agree with mr. oleksandr about deterrence, it is important that not only the americans join this, there is not one nuclear power in the world, we are talking about what you see here again, with your permission, i will return to the peace formula, what is the peace formula, it is

the coercive pressure of the leading states. of the world to russia in other spheres than only on the battlefield, because on the battlefield we fight against russian aggression with the help of our partners' weapons and we will bring it to a victorious end, but take any sphere and russian aggression is present there, take the nuclear sphere , the energy sphere, the food sphere, the ecological sphere, violation of the un charter, all norms, violation of the civilized rules of war, and so on, and here, well, there are also countries and leaders whom putin is afraid of, because he is afraid of force in general in principle, and we can see this when we started using force on the battlefield and so on, and the more such countries will unite to put pressure on the leader of the state the aggressor, the more he will see that such pressure is not reversible, and the sooner it will happen, we would like it to be faster, unfortunately, sometimes it does not happen so quickly, and here it also applies to help from

partners. on weapons, well, look, first of all, everyone has some bureaucratic, inertial mechanisms, in every state, in every one, the bureaucracy somehow works from the adoption of the decision of the first person to the fact that it descends to the direct executors or to the manufacturers of weapons and so on, so yes, by the way, i do not agree with mr. oleksandr, we are just criticizing our partners, sometimes even publicly, and this also sometimes brings results, in the beginning he and remember the president's speeches, they were quite harsh and critical, and that's why we got what we 're getting now, is that enough? no, not enough, and we are also open about it we say, but we also understand the realities , we cannot completely deprive this or that country of the means for its security, and we always say that we know, by the way, we know everything that is there in warehouses, in possession , and so on , we say no, there is a certain volume that we know you have, you can give, if it is not difficult for you to do it now, sell, rent, transfer for some time, please do it , but we are already

thinking today that, unfortunately, russia... will always be aggressive, even when we defeat it, we will need sufficient the level of weapons and in order to deter further russian aggression, it means that it must be produced, it means that it must be produced jointly, you know, russian aggression... i think forced to make such a check in many countries, if not in all countries, and not only europe, they looked, and what do we have, listen, if we were attacked now, could we at least as effectively deter as ukraine, many countries ask, chevorons approaching victory, and another year when we do not celebrate, but choose our

independence, and another day when us they are trying to deprive us of the right to be ourselves, and another fleeting moment of the terrible war that continues. but the whole world is already convinced that our independence will not be grabbed, drowned, burned, shot, and the greater our hatred, the stronger our independence, the closer our victory, independence, we prove every day. ukrainian gives freedom. the occupiers are pulling their tails, having heard about ukrainian cotton and cotton. and we haven't mentioned 30-letter words yet. ukrainian is the language of the free. hrobchik, how are you? i feel it is difficult for you.

maybe you are confused and it seems to you that nothing is working out right now. you know what i do when i'm confused? i go to the mirror, look at myself, remember what i have already achieved and say. i am well done. at the same time, you just need to pat yourself on the head, whether in imagination or in reality. you see how well done we are, doing what helps. on the site how are you.com, caring people from the mental health program and their friends from unicef ​​have collected tips on how to help yourself and your child cope with stress. nationwide telethon on the air, we continue to... a discussion studio and we talk about we discuss two such two such events of the past week and this is an article in time and an article in the economist valery fedorovych of the valiant commander-in-chief and we talk about what can

happen now on let's go already let's talk about the geopolitical level, we'll get out, although of course, we just talked about - also such, narratives that began to emerge in the information space, about the narrative of reconciliation or reconciliation, to quote, specifically the person who first uttered this the word, and the article , and that, and the second, and the second interview, it is so presented, by experts , by some, as the impasse and the need for reconciliation, and then they give out... these are such buns, the first bun, what they say, it means that during this time, for the time being, we will be there, going to a peace treaty, they say, the country can join nato, ours, that is, that part of the territory that

is not occupied, but the occupied territory, they say it will join according to the frr scenario , then, someday, and these experts necessarily say in parentheses, i don't think it will be long. really, people, that's great to hear, isn't it? so, the next narrative is that since it is a dead end, it means that it must be used, and likewise, reconciliation, it will benefit us, because during this time, and later, airships will begin to furrow the spaces of the world ocean, we are building such high-tech weapons , that we will overcome the russians immediately, if they come forward next time after the reconciliation, or maybe they will not come forward, because they will be afraid. for us, you understand, and when you hear such a thing, i understand that people who count don't count anymore, because there are already a lot of these flags in cemeteries, if people walk past the cemetery every time and see how many have died now at

the front, if they hear such experts, then of course the country can be plunged into unknown things, and into the complete unknown, what do you think about this , well, first of all, let's separate, if we mentioned here in the discussion, the person who expresses his presidential ambitions of aristovych, then he is not an expert, although he is called an expert, here we must distinguish, never confuse, because. .. these are different things, an expert position and a political one position. in fact, aristovych is currently proposing a political position, and the fact that this peace-making rhetoric is heard there, i already said a little about it, who will be the first to propose now, we want peace, we are ready to go for peace, he will find himself in a weaker position, and this is now in the interests of russia, from the point of view of the country, who will be the first to propose, from the point of view of the politician, from the point of view of the politician and from the point of view of the logic of negotiations in the future. yes, because now, russia

will then put us in a frame, will issue an ultimatum, and so on, this is unacceptable, even purely political logic, but there is also what is more dangerous is that he uses such terms as: reconcile , reconcile, one thing, when we have to conduct certain negotiations, for example, about the exchange of prisoners, or when a grain agreement was, yes, yes, even, possible, and in we had such an experience, there was the minsky experience. kugod and so on, yes, but these are forced things, and when they talk about reconciliation, then, eh, it is not only about the war, not only about the end of hostilities, and this is already very, very dangerous, and that is why the suspicion, excuse me, so hence the suspicion that this one a person is already oriented in fact to the electorate of the former opzh and can promote narratives in this way, you know, mr. volodya, i conducted such a discussion in absentia, but when i hear that it is necessary to reconcile... it means in order to make

another qualitative leap , and then win, or just scare the russians, if they are us, when they promise, this, this is candy in order not to be seen, i think, and what will russia do at this time, well, russia, which already now, yes, at three, at three shifts and children already, teenagers work in factories, she what will stop and say, well, thank god , ukraine is not at war, they are calming down there, that is very correct, you mrs. natalie, you say, any narratives of this kind. and no matter what their surnames are, and in what respectable or disrespectful publications they sound, all this comes from one and the same center, which is the aggressor state russia. the narrative of reconciliation, appeasement, immediate peace , cease-fire began to be heard from the first days of open russian aggression, and you so fleetingly mentioned minsk, and minsk, and other formats, they began to appear immediately from in the first days of the aggression of the 14th year, 108... 75 rounds of negotiations were held with

russia in total, and what, and what did we get? russia tried to do this after the start of open aggression directly, remember, they said, let's give peace and so on, it didn't work, ukraine rejected it, they saw terrible things, the whole world saw it, we saw it, unfortunately, from the first days of the war, the whole world saw the terrible events in bucha and other cities and said: what a peace, with those barbarians, it didn't work out right away. started to launch through some partners, remember these proposals of our some countries of the global cock, and let's try to be moderators, mediators, ghanaians of goodwill, i don't know, messiahs of some kind, we clearly said, listen, the time for mediation is over, it's already, it's over, if you want something good to do in order to stop this aggression, you must clearly show on which basis you used to condemn these uncivilized barbaric methods

of waging war, stand on one side with ukraine, that is what the peace formula was for, remember the russian narrative, this is not us, that's what we want peace, and ukraine does not want, no, ukraine wants peace more than russia, because our people are dying, but definitely not on the russian terms, so it did not work out through intermediaries, ukraine rejected these proposals, narratives began in the press, you see, they now continue, you are right, that is, my thesis, you see, you supported it, after all. what are these articles , where are they coming from, by the way, please pay attention, somewhere in parallel with this article, again another statement of the russian official representative, we are ready for peace before peace, we we remind you, on russian terms, but we are ready, yes, here you go, please, well, it ’s not, it’s not a coincidence, except for the russians, mr. igor, i want to remind you that about a year ago with similar proposals, and it really made me think to ask you, did kissinger, for example, speak? well, what if he is 100 years old, but kissengerj rystevavich

cites, well, this is actually kissenger, to join nato with that part of the territory that is unoccupied. francis fokuyama also told such narratives, that is, it is not only the russians, and in connection with this, i have a question, you, as the deputy head of the president's office, do not see behind this and such a temperature measurement by the americans, and what do the ukrainians think about such a scene. and not only americans now in europe are ready to listen to this thesis and its biden, all questions are removed no, i don't think so after the speech. biden, remove all questions, look, if you have already mentioned kissinger, then kissinger is now saying completely different things, there was a recent meeting with mr. kissinger at the president, when we were in washington, kissinger now talks about the full-fledged accession of ukraine to nato without all these half-hearted decisions, no, again, the fact that such stones

will be thrown by these experts, historians, political scientists, and of course, will be thrown, will be thrown, i repeat once again, by that center, from which it all... comes, but at no official negotiations, at any of our contacts, and they are in different formats, there are also during visits, telephone conversations, and ttat-tet meetings , there is no such thing, well, ukraine will not give in half or on the 23rd to nato, it will join normally, full-fledged territory, and we need nato for only one purpose, it is the best guarantee of security for ukraine, we have realized this, we have already realized this with you, look at the level of support of the population of ukraine. the question of joining nato, where in all the years of independence more than 90% of the population of ukraine did not support joining nato, this figure is like this now, they don't even talk about e there any more, so what are we talking about, what compromises are they telling us our nato partners, that ukraine will not be able to join nato until the end of the war,

because nato will not now apply article five in the course of this ongoing russian aggression, there is such a position, there is such a position, we hear such a position, we hear such a position. does this mean that ukraine is removing the issue from the agenda, no, we are preparing , we are working, the district assembly, the state of wisconsin, it seems that i said the right title, yuri rashkin, and i just, why was i so triggered, because he he tells me, so during my broadcast on youtube: you, then, write the right guarantees, and with the countries that can give them, and enter into nato, also part of the territory and then he tells me, you know, then an article appears in time, it seems, but no, we discussed an article in time, and he comes with such a proposal to the air, then it appears in a day, already discussion at the level of experts, and regarding

the entry, and again, make only guarantees and enter , and let them be such guarantees, not such as the budapest memoranda, you understand, you are following the chain correctly, here it is. one center is made to order and is simply made different ways, but the center is ordered with an american passport for today and what, but this does not happen, well, absolutely calm, and about security guarantees, if i may say two words, look, it is very important, here it is very important to clearly distinguish the best security guarantee is the accession of ukraine to nato , full stop, but we just talked with you about the fact that, unfortunately, ukraine will not be able to join tomorrow until the end of the war, so we are talking about security guarantees from specific states, uh, until ukraine joins nato, as it is written there, the villeneuve declaration when it was concluded at the villeneuve summit of nato, on the second day of the summit, it was signed, remember, by the countries of the group of seven, and now 30 countries have joined the moment, which means that before the victory, for the victory, during the victory and after the victory

, by the time we join nato, we will need security guarantees, they already partially exist today, providing us with the best, most effective weapons, this is also a guarantee of... security, maintaining the level of sanctions that our partners have finally reached now, will you remember how to of open aggression, president zelenskyy urged: make preventive sanctions, and show the russians what the price of their possible aggression will be, they were silent, did not do it, now they have done it, the level is insufficient, but it must be kept, at least not lower, and if the escalation of aggression begins, or for example, after our victory, the russians want to resume aggression, they should immediately understand what the level of sa will be. that is, sanctions are also components of guarantees of our security, financial aid, its level is known, the time of our guarantees is also clearly calculated security and so on. look at this document, it is quite interesting, and now on the basis of this villeneuve document, we are making bilateral, or by the way, many bilateral agreements with those countries that have joined this

declaration, but again, this is a change of concepts, listen, maybe you don't need nato membership, but there will be guarantees, no way, guarantees will and should be , we want to conclude very quickly, of course we want them to be legally binding, we don't want it to be notorious the budapest memorandum, but that does not in any way remove the question of membership in nato, and someone is uncomfortable with this, and here is what appears, look, we have a unique situation that during the war we maintain a very high level of democracy, and freedom of speech, and if such attacks, let's call it that, will be thrown into society, then society, warmed by the expectation of a quick victory, let's talk about that too, right? now there is disappointment, and a little, of course, yes, of course, society will want this sweet break. eat and at least hold it in hands, which is called, there for peace, reconciliation, well, what is called, rather

freezing, or freezing of the war, and here the question is whether the government is ready, not the way the government will talk to its people, what the ukrainian government should say to its people , how will the government convince its people, what arguments will it give, er, will the government have certain negotiations with our partners by this time before this serious conversation, will it have guarantees from partners that we have one and that the very purpose with them, you see, that is questions, there will be, if possible, i'm just a metaphor from the godfather, the first one to offer... no, he's a traitor, yes, that is, by and large, this is the most important thing, the second point, i can't say from the point

of view of the emotional , as the government has, well, by and large, our president is a great master in this, well, by and large, he is a great master , yes, that is, to appeal to people's emotions and motivate them there or explain something, i can say from another point of view, from the point of view of national interests, the russian federation perceives the world as a zero-sum game, which means someone must lose, no compromises can be agreed. and we see it in those cities that have been destroyed, in torture, in the removal of ukrainian children, that is, it is a war of destruction, so to agree something with the russian federation simply means to avoid the continuation of this war at the moment when ukrainian society will scattered, or there will be no such international support, then i understand that it is difficult for those who lost their loved ones to understand, but on the other hand, you know, i also really like the metaphor that when the unr lost, their statehood, yes, then they ate their children, now we are in the same situation, then, you mentioned these various proposals that let

’s join nato in parts, nato has already gone through this history, it dissolved the soviet union, almost the collapse of the soviet union, which means that the americans are communicating with the germans, the germans say that gorbachev gives the green light there, which means that reunification, but they do not want nato to expand further into eastern germany, the americans said: you are stupid, like us we can protect half the country, that is, we actually put the possibility of protecting you under the sums at all, and since germany was always at the forefront, that is, berlin was the hottest point during the entire cold war, then this cannot be, and by the way, when the russians say that there were some agreements , that they gave the go-ahead there , that not only eastern europe in general, but even germany, will not be decided, this is a delusion, there is no document, there were such communications and the americans themselves clearly said that this would not happen, respectively. this will not happen in ukraine,

they can't take us as a part of us when we have an unfinished conflict with the russian federation, that's why it's also rejected, then they mentioned kissenjar, it's a problem of political realists, again, i'm getting a little specific, and mr. igor knows, because he graduated from international the theory of international relations, realists, idealists and realists, yes, realists have taken them a little in the wrong direction, in the sense that they believe that russia is a powerful state, well at least. there are nuclear weapons and they can play some positive role even in the conditions that exist now, or at least not to be such a bad actor who breaks something and constantly starts some there, intensifies conflicts, she doesn't start conflicts, she intensifies them, so it's better to have russia on your own boss, next is china, then it 's better to tear the country off, what does vivek ramoswamy say about : let us know ukraine, and here, but the russian federation will not have a military alliance with china, it is without. insanely delusional, thank god that he has like kefir, this support of the population, he will definitely not be a candidate or

president of the united states, so political realists, john feshemaya, walt, they continue this old, they are indoctrinated, and they cannot see that the world has changed and that there is no clear realism, clear idealism, they are mixed up, that is , there is no such model of the world, so look at kissinge, listen, what he says makes no sense, he has always been, russia is in this sense , like china-centric, so he, we don’t know what to expect from china, they seem to have to cross paths somewhere next week, biden and xi, that’s right, by the way, somewhere there is a summit of the san economic union francisco, san francisco, both sides are working, here is an example of what you see, they will talk about whether it is positive for ukraine, positively, yes, it is better to let them negotiate than to accept a confrontation, look, well, i can’t say

there are names specifically or countries, but to what extent is this aggression and the position of ukraine, that we did not give up, that we began to win, that we began to show that it is possible to defeat russia, how much it changed the thinking and leaders of many countries, not only by the way , european nations and so on, just us now, maybe behind these , our daily worries, we have to defeat the aggressor, we have to, it's called that now , well, to put it mildly, we don't, we don't, we can't abstract what ukraine is actually doing now, you know many of your colleagues, even journalists, ask, what about you? do you sometimes work on the creation of a new system of international relations, holding peace formula meetings and so on, uniting completely different countries, sometimes according to their own positions, around the issue of ukraine, around the victory of ukraine? good question, right? we have one from the points of the peace formula, it is called, by the way, the fifth point of restoration of territorial

integrity and world order, see why this has been happening for 30 years. and this resulted, in particular, unfortunately, in the fact that these countries, we have become, were subjected to aggression by the russian federation, firstly, we are not the only country that was subjected to aggression by the russian federation, and secondly, not only in this events are happening in part of the world, why is this happening, and because after the end of the cold war, a new system of international relations was not created, it does not exist, no no the rules that were developed in 1945 during the creation of the yaalton post of the system of international relations, the creation of the united nations, and the fact that the united nations does not need to be reformed, the president speaks about this very clearly and frankly, look again at his speech at the general assembly, look at the security council, now tezrael talked about it quickly, as soon as it happened, just that biden talked about the expansion of rathbez and will put brazil in there, you know, who will have such a right of veto that, you know, we still

shudder at the mention of russia, or vice versa, understand thanks to yes, yes, it’s not a fact yet, they, it’s not a fact that they will give the right of veto to new members of the security council, well, in general, there are more proposals than agreement, yes, i think that just now there is a competition, in these proposals, because and china, and russia, and the states, and the europeans, they are competing to gain the sympathy of some countries of the so-called global south, to trade here and there, yes, come on, that's why i'm just poon i'm a big skeptic, i'll go back to our chance of expansion, if ukraine's terror remains veto or some radical countries, well, this does not solve the problem, it does not solve, yes, many institutions proved their inability today, we mentioned the un , i can mention, for example, the international committee of the red cross, well, what did the organization

do for the liberation of ukrainian polenets, zero, zero, therefore... here is another field for you to make efforts by the whole world, the country is making an appearance here, the problems have just begun, the same claims are made to the same international organizations, but on the other hand, resolutions are constantly being adopted against israel and it calmly ignores, yes, that is, in principle, since the most important goal of this state is actually for the state to exist , to protect the jews from a possible second holocaust, that is, i think that we also have to learn something, although we can teach, with great on account of certain certain things, because what happened on october 7 is a great tragedy, normal, but these are great mistakes, actually of this government, and the most important thing is that it also affects us, i say it as a negative, because it is happening and can be escalation, so with that did not become positive, because if there was reconciliation between saudi arabia, israel and

through the mediation of the united states, we would be fine, because israel would be. would be in a different position and could help us, i hope he will help after the government changes, but the most important thing is that then there would be deterrence against iran, which provides assistance to the russian federation, which is one of the elements, the axis of evil of this, that's why i can go a little bit to this adjacent branch behind the establishment and from there the questions to mr. volodymyr, last sunday should have been parliamentary elections in ukraine, and if there was no war, eh, now they say, maybe they will be there in the spring, maybe in the fall , tell me, or until the end of martial law, as the constitution of ukraine says, now they will discuss after koleba’s statement, whether there will be presidential elections elections, but look, one way or another, the partners hint to us that during the war they always had elections, and this confirms the legitimacy

of the president there, which means that the parliament gains a certain legitimacy. please tell me, mr.