doesn't end, actually , it never ends, it continues, and uh, you and i, i 'll see you literally at 2 o'clock, and you stay with espresso. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. a hellish night in ukraine. last night , russia attacked almost all regions of the country with a drone. dmytro kuleba does not rule out that presidential and verkhovna rada elections will be held in ukraine in the spring of 2024 . pseudo-historian putin continues to claim that ukraine never existed. today in the program. consequences of the night drone attack on ukraine, what russia wanted to achieve. zaluzhny told the bitter truth about the future of the war through the eyes of the chief of staff of the armed forces of ukraine. how is the new article? commander-in-chief can influence

the event. israel's ground operation: can the tzahal clear the gas smog. over the next hour, we will talk about this and other things with our guests, people's deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko, director of the center for close school studies ihor simivolos and political expert volodymyr tsibulko. however before starting our big conversation, i suggest you watch a video on the consequences of the night attack by drones of the russian federation on the night of november 3, in total, the ukrainian air defense forces managed to shoot down 24 drones, unfortunately, there were also hits, in kharkiv estepal burned down as a result of the attack, but cars, houses were destroyed, and the hundred-year-old college was also hit. we look at the consequences of the night attack.

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mr. oleksiyu, president, or rather, minister of foreign affairs, dmytro kuleba, stated that president zelensky is considering the possibility of holding elections during martial law, he stated this in an interview skynews, he said that such an election could possibly take place in the spring of 2024, why do you think your office is torpedoing the topic of a possible wartime election? in fact, this is a very dangerous trend, and it seems to me that zelsky is increasingly taking a course , instead of promising the public victory in the war, he wants to exchange it for his own victory in the elections, because, first of all, we have legislation of ukraine, which clearly prohibits holding elections during martial law, and this is important not only from a legal point of view,

but it is also important from the point of view of common sense, well, we all see, you showed the video of the russian attacks, and we all saw the terrible disaster in the village in the village of groza khar oblast, when one missile killed almost a third of the village there, as in such conditions can we hold an election? elections are not just putting a cross in some ballots, well, if these are elections, then we can say that elections are also taking place in the russian federation, elections are a democratic process, they are debates, discussions, meetings with voters, that's how all that to organize in the current conditions of security, i.e. both from the point of view of... and from the point of view of common sense, these elections are unacceptable, and in general, the country cannot be divided now , elections are always a division, this is a normal division, it is when people are divided according to their political preferences, but we're in a moment now where we need unity, not division, so i hope

that's what we're seeing, no, they really want to hold an election, but i'm hoping that it 's them, you know, the public's reaction on... these their test layers, sorry for the word, to advance the elections in such conditions will stop them, and let them do their work, and let them do their contribution, a very important contribution that they can make to the victory of ukraine, is it true that zelensky is in a hurry with the elections, because he understands that he is responsible both for the situation in the country and for the situation at the front, which, as the publication shows: both in time magazine and in the economist publication , the situation is quite difficult, and in this way zelsky is trying to hurry while he still has confidence citizens of ukraine and in this way wants to convert this trust into a second presidential term as soon as possible. well, that's exactly what

he seems to want to do, besides, he wants to take advantage of the opportunity, but there is espresso tv. thank you for being the free media that shows. different points of view, but let's be objective that the majority of, for example, television in ukraine is occupied by a national telethon, fully controlled by the government, then it is probably the dream of any government in the world to hold elections, when you control the media space, then you can there construct whatever you want, well, this is very far from democracy, and it cannot be called democracy, it is obvious that you cannot do two things at the same time, work for victory and elections, well, that is, it is impossible, and when zelensky said that yes, what we have to win the elections first, and today the talks are starting, and look how they throw it, kuleba, danilov, someone else , stefanchuk, that is, they release such, let's say

, second-rate people, speakers, representatives of the authorities, who, as it were, pump the society, feeling. promotion, well, it should come out on its own zelensky, by the way, i will tell you, i know how they want to sell it to society, how to explain it, because society asks, why elections, who, who demands elections, i am the opposition, i do not demand elections, the government, well, you and so is the government, and who demands elections, ukrainian people, well, society does not demand elections, all polls show that society is against elections, during hostilities, so who demands elections, both zelenskyi and the president's office are going to say... this is the west, this is what the western partners demand from us. i want to say this right up front lies, no demands from the west, i communicate with many western politicians, i communicate with the ambassadors of the g7 countries, very actively, and i can say that

there are no demands on ukraine to hold elections during the war, so if they tell you something that this event requires, just understand that it's sorry. and an attempt to cover one's own desire with the demand of the event. mr. oleksiy , this week, a column of a hard worker was published, where he tells the truth, or let's say, as frankly as possible about what is happening at the front, that there would be no quick counteroffensive, and declared that the situation at the front had reached a critical point. how do you assess this statement by zaluzhnyi and what does it mean for the future of ukraine? well, this is really important, you wrote correctly, a serious conversation with society, by the way, i can thank zaluzhny for this, because ukrainian society is very mature, we are, unfortunately, i wish we were not so mature, but look at the last 20 years, ukraine has survived two

revolutions, two invasions, one of them full-scale, and a pandemic, well, like the whole the world, it’s been 20 years, that is, we’ve already seen, excuse me, everything, that’s why i think that we need to talk to us as adults and ukrainians deserve it, zaluzhne conducts such a conversation, well, we’ve all heard these stories, what will drinking coffee in the crimea, zaluzhnye admits his mistake. this is also, by the way, for me, it is important when a person can admit a mistake , says that he misjudged russia, admits that there is no success in the counteroffensive, it is difficult to call a 17 km advance a success, although this is all and it was given at a very high price, and we also know this, and he also talks about it zaluzhni, so this is an important recognition of reality, because you can close your eyes to reality for a long time, but it usually ends badly, so the fact that zaluzhni does not look at reality as it is, with

open eyes, is very good, and that what he says society, well yes, it's bad that this is the reality, but it's good that, well, we talk about it, and not try to pretend that all this is not there, in this article there is a very important message for the west, and this message too for us this is, well, actually dangerous, this message sounds as follows: no one yet stopped it, this is very important, because there is such an impression in the west that, like, well , russia has already failed, as far as, you know, relatively speaking, there is that part of ukraine, a smaller part of ukraine, no, zaluzhny says, we have not stopped putin yet , and russia is a serious adversary, and an adversary that draws conclusions, and tries to adapt, under the situation, and use it to its advantage, and this is a very important message, dear measure,

dear partners, please give us today what what we need, and then zulazhnyi specifically lists it, he has five factors, this is air superiority , aircraft, drones, this is modern counter-battery warfare, this is modern mine clearance, this is the training of our units and this is radio electronic warfare, he names five components and says we need them now, there is a very important moment when the hard worker says about the fact that the west was delaying, when the west was pondering for a long time how to give us tanks or whether to give us tanks, well, while the west was delaying, russia was preparing for these tanks, building fortifications, grasping, mining, and now we see all this, we saw, especially and in navbb's work on the southern front, today, when the west hesitated for a long time, finally decided to give us... 16, we don't know yet how many, but zaluzhny says, well, when they arrive next spring, russia will be ready for it,

so, this is an important message, very necessary, and i can say there that for a year and a half i have been telling this to all our western partners, that if you follow putin all the time, not if you catch up with putin, then you will never defeat him, we will never defeat him , we have to step ahead of him, and then we will defeat him, this message from zaluzhny is important, another message from zaluzhny in this article is a message not to the outside world, but to ukraine. he says, first of all, that you have to tell the truth, and this is also a salute to the national telethon , on which, well, this, this cannot be called the truth, what he says there, and he says that all the things that he listed these five components, it is very desirable that to a large extent all this was produced in ukraine, he is not a military man at all, he is not a politician. he is not a manager, not a government official, he says: i need it, but

let's be honest, ukraine has not coped with this task for the moment, and our government has not coped with it, we will continue to be dependent, well, almost totally, on our partners, where is the mass production of ukrainian drones, where is the mass production of ukrainian electronic warfare, what is said diligent is necessary for our victory if we want to achieve it, so, well, this is a very important article, it is not easy, it is not an article that causes admiration and joy, it is an article that causes heavy thoughts, serious reflection, but it is necessary, because only in a serious adult conversation can you come to the right conclusions, and this adult and serious conversation has already been heard in washington, well, at least there is the reaction of the coordinator of strategic communications of the national security council of the white house, john kier. on the article of a servant, let's hear. ukrainian

leaders have the right to talk about their progress or lack thereof. i think this underscores how important it is that we continue to support ukraine. we are developing and have already evolved in the context of what we will provide ukraine with, as well as the war itself developed. and i suspect that this process will continue. it would be much easier for us to do this if congress passed additional funding. to support ukraine, because it is not only about ukraine's capabilities. a lot of that goes to restocking for the us, for our own stockpile. in the united states of america, did they hear what zaluzhnyi said , what zelenskyy said in simon schuster’s article, did they hear in ukraine what zaluzhnyi said and what zelenskyi said, because communication with society is too important to society understood that this war, well, it will not end today or tomorrow, and that a large mobilization resource is needed

, which, by the way, the same diligent person speaks about , the economy needs to be rearranged, and the military rails are obviously shifting the economy, why do you think there is no such serious conversation between government, ukrainian and ukrainian society? this is a huge problem, you know, i am another such difference between an article in the magazine time and the economist, i will spend, diligent, knows, well, in any case, he thinks, and so does he to us gives his opinion, he answers the question of what he thinks should be done, again, should be done, an article in time magazine about how zelensky simply believes, belief is very important, belief is not, well, an extremely important part of success,

but you can't just go on faith, you have to do, you have to take concrete actions, and that's why when...' and there zelennyasskyi believes, in the same article it is said that he could not remove reznikov for six months, according to whom everything was already it is obvious when he cannot curb the corrupt appetites of his own entourage, about it it is directly stated in the magazine time, we generally understand, well, how much this, well, this article in the magazine, it is very dangerous for ukraine, i am not blaming journalists here, journalists are journalists. they are doing their job, but this magazine is an american magazine, and now let's take it, let's just put ourselves in the shoes of the americans, they are told, we have to give money to a country that, according to what they write in their leading magazine, steals like tomorrow it won't come, i'm quoting the magazine the

magazine time, well, it's a disaster, that is, and this it is obvious that this is such a pass, to those who say, yes, what is there in ukraine, why should we send our money to ukraine, take it away from a resident of oklahoma, arizona, ohio, send it to a country where someone will simply steal it and put it pocket, and therefore it is very, it is not a bell, it is a bell, a very serious one, which requires an immediate reaction from zelensky, to be honest, the fact that several days have passed, and zelensky is pretending that this article does not exist, that article there is no merit, we again have some, well, these bravura statements follow one after another in this dinner address, it is very sad, it raises the question of the adequacy of zelensky himself, no more and no less, because the situation is very complicated, this

situation needs an adult conversation and serious decisions, ukraine and only he can make them, he built it that way system of power, that today all the power is in his hands, well , then he should directly use it today in order to stop, well, those very dangerous trends in which we are. thank you, mr. oleksiy, for the inclusion, it was oleksiy goncharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us on youtube. please vote in our poll, we ask you today whether you are ready for a long-term war with russia, yes, no, or your option, please write in the comments below this video, and don't be shy, please put like this video so that it can be trended on youtube. next , ihor simevolos, director

of the center for middle eastern studies, will be in touch. mr. igor, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. i congratulate you too. mr. igor, today, for the third time in the last month, the secretary of state of the united states of america, anthony blinken, flew to israel . dissatisfaction with israel's operation in gas is growing, and blinken is still trying to find that golden mean, when both israel will fulfill its plan and the surrounding world, especially the arab world, will not perceive the military so keenly. israeli army in the gas sector. how do you currently assess the prospects today? the unfolding of this war, ha hamas against israel, or israel now against hamas, in arab-israeli and the expansion of the conflict in the middle east.

well, i can say that it will be difficult to find opportunities for blinken, because israel, at least now, is not ready to make any concessions, and rather they want to use this moment to effectively solve most of the problems they face in the in connection with the palestinian-israeli conflict, and it cannot help but affect , objectively speaking, the situation in our country, objectively speaking, it cannot affect the situation with relations with the arab countries, because every day of this operation, the shelling, the bombing, the deaths, they are fueling the arab overlords and putting pressure, serious

pressure on even moderate governments that are interested in cooperating with the americans. blinken has already made a statement about what he wants to say to the israeli leadership and how he sees the future resolution of this conflict. so let's listen to blinkin, we are fully focused on getting the hostages back, getting them back to their families safely, and we believe that among other things, a humanitarian pause can help that effort, make it easier, that's one of the reasons we're focused on, but regardless, our determination to bring people back is evident every day in our efforts to do just that. and as i have said many times and president biden has said, we strongly support israel in its right and duty to defend itself, to defend its people, and to take the necessary steps to

try to ensure that this never happens again, nothing, nothing has changed, and that won't change, mr. igor, what does it mean to guarantee that it will never happen has happened again, that is, the complete destruction of hamas, or what should happen so that october 7 does not happen again in israel? well, obviously so, obviously so. obviously, we are talking about the complete destruction of hamas as a political structure, a military structure, and the like. because, otherwise, i cannot interpret his words. and, as for er, that it does not happen again, of course i can fantasize here about the fact that eventually the arab-israeli conflict will be resolved and both... both peoples will have their own states and there will be no more grounds for similar conflicts, but these are more my fantasies than reality, mr. igor, is

there any other option for israel in this situation, than the option they chose, the complete destruction of hamas, the entry into the gaza strip and the destruction of these underground passages, hamas bunkers , which are there, or is there another option, specifically for israel? well, i don't know, maybe there is, but i don't see it. i think that, in principle, israel is put in such a situation that they cannot but respond with a ground operation, according to everyone, risking in the future, very big problems in relations there, with the global rooster. the leader of the military-political lebanese shiite. hezbollah's hassan nasrallah has called on arab and islamic countries to cut ties with israel and recall ambassadors for expansion in the wake of the escalating

conflict in the middle east, let's hear what he had to say. the concern is that this situation could explode into a new conflict, or turn into a full-scale war. this can really happen, and the enemy must be ready for it. what happens on on our fronts is very important and influential. it seems that some want hezbollah to go to war with the enemy quickly and may take what is happening on the borders a little conservative, but we see that it is very important, large and influential, when in the united states of america they talk about a new message of evil, they there they say, there is iran, there is china, there is the russian federation, this is the new news of evil. how this new axis of evil is now taking advantage of what is happening in the middle east, who has what profit in this situation, that is, putin separately, separately. in iran

the leaders of iran and separately the leaders of china, that is , what are these representatives of this axis of evil, what do they get as a result of the conflict in the middle east? well, notice that no and, hezbollah, hassan dasrallah and and, supreme leader khamenei, and all their statements indicate that they don't really want to engage in conflict, that is, they are showing... readiness, they are shaking hands, telling, about the fact that today or tomorrow it will happen, but then they make a note where they clearly record what if they are attacked, if this happens and the like, and this shows that both iran and other shiites are actively using the palestinians simply in their plans, and their plans are to inflict a strategic... defeat

on the americans in the middle east, to prevent the formation of anti, let's say, security , security alliances that restrained the expansion of iraq, that is, in this case, of course, i am alluding to the negotiations that took place between israel, the united states of america and, and for them, this situation is ideal, that is, on the one hand, the arab... the degree rises, and the arab countries are forced to react in some way, and shiites can stand aside and rub because everything is for them, but what about china and russia, the strategic goals are the same there, remember, the first day of the conflict, putin spoke and said, on monday, to start

the conflict, and he said that the united states of america lost in the middle east , that they could not implement their strategy, and this is exactly what putin is saying absolutely, clearly and clearly, this message is actually aimed at the strategic defeat of the united states. the chinese need negotiations with the americans, but negotiations on their own terms and in a position where the americans feel such a need and do not feel strong, and therefore they also benefit from this situation, you say that hezbollah is waiting there, when the united states of america is defeated in the middle east, in general, is it possible this is when two aircraft carrier groups stand near the shores of israel and have such a power that, in fact

, they leave no stone unturned in the middle east, the problem is not that the americans can lose physically, but in the middle east, they succeed politics is building alliances and supporting the members of this alliance so that they prevent the development of negative trends, or let's say the spread. terrorism, the spread of islamic, fundamentalism, extremism, or there islamism , and shiite, let's say, fundamentalism, that is, these specific goals can unite countries with different ethnic, religious groups in the middle east, but for this, to achieve this, at least it is necessary, so that these countries feel... the power

of america, that america can implement difficult issues, because it is to strike easy, then what to do after striking, and buying gas is easy, and what to do after gas is occupied, that is, the father of the question, which is in the constant attention of the administration of the united states of america, and without which it is impossible at all resolve any conflict. near east today, vladimir putin once again repeated the fact that the ukrainians seem to be selling weapons to the middle east, however, for some reason he mentioned the taliban, although the taliban are in afghanistan, not in the middle east, but he has problems with from history, from geography, he constantly talks about the fact that the weapons that come to ukraine end up in the middle east, and this is this fake about the fact that weapons are traveling from

ukraine to the middle east. it is quite actively replicated in russian.