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do you agree that they throw a bomb, kill children or someone, what is there? no, it is fighting with hamas, yes, the fact that the peaceful population is dying is completely and entirely the responsibility of hamas, if there were no action on october 7, it was not only the murder of 1,400 israeli citizens in the south of israel, but the taking of 220 hostages , well now they say 220 , 240, it is not known exactly how many died, but forgive me, the full responsibility for all the consequences lies with hamas, because you, they, more precisely, have always had this is the time for the march on october 7, and they will return the hostages, lay down their arms, stop the resistance, and so on, and this was proposed to them . ответных документы, this is a question of ensuring safety, this is a question of punishing the guilty, and israel will not give
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up, yes, the ground operation is going on, it is going on in phases, sectorally it is going, not, so to speak, on a large scale, but nevertheless it continues, and with this points of course, moscow has taken an unequivocal position, anti-israel, pro-khamasov, and is doing everything to ensure that israel loses first in the information war, it has already lost it, this is a fact, and then it lost the purely military situation, so to speak, stopped the actions, see, mark, and for... why would the kremlin, so to speak, fit in so actively against israel? we remember how putin sobbed on bibi netanyahu's shoulder, we understand that they had a longer relationship, but no, it was at this moment that putin decided to get actively involved, and we understand that hamas did not come up with this attack on israel on its own, that is, we understand that it is iran, and someone else advised it, and there is an assumption that specifically the kremlin hinted or helped?
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it is not excluded, because first of all the western press writes that they have been preparing this operation for 2 years, 2 years, well, for 2 years they have been constantly going to moscow, and in august, they saw mashalla khania present to mr. lavrov in moscow or in peter, they were at a summit of some kind, it says something, they traveled constantly, they talk, they meet not only with lav, but with with the leadership of the special services, with the army and so on , they have a close relationship , as for why exactly now moscow took an anti-israeli position, it could maneuver, and somehow, well, they would condemn the events of the 7th. they said let's go to peace, let's go, no, i think that they are interested in dragging out this whole story, in order to shift attention from ukraine to the middle east, if israel quickly wins, wins, solves the issue of hamas, deals with iran, but this is moscow but they will not be happy because they have there will be problems of the second nature, there, well, iran supplies missiles, supplies shells, a lot of things there, if military objects are bombed, there are nuclear infrastructures, there are some centrifuges, and so on, then these factories can certainly come in handy, and this will
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greatly help ukraine , but ukrainians will stop being killed by these martyrs, as for hamas itself, you know, hamas is an uncontrolled, let's say, significant force of the arab east, which can provoke, look, it would seem that such a large-scale and terrorist action, but after all it was just a one-time event that took place one day in a flash on the territory of israel, and the consequences were all over the world, global consequences, angelina jaly even supported palestine today. yes, well, in such a context, yes, that is, it says something, that they know where to press, they know where to hit, they understand how it works, in moscow they understand exactly how it works, еврейский вопрос , the middle east question, the palestinian-israeli question, this is the most painful, the most sensitive question, they there they pressed in order, i repeat, to solve their problems in eastern europe , to solve their problems with the war, which they are not winning, at least to move the peace towards something, to the fact that, listen, let's... let's agree on
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ukraine, let's let's sit down, leave us the occupied territories, let's demilitarize ukraine there, let's, well , here's the whole set, and then we'll all get together and solve the middle east problem, we - he says, we offer, we are members of the middle east four, says moscow, we we are ready to take hostages, we are ready to help create a palestinian state, to participate in negotiations between the parties, we have contact both there and there, well, it sounds quite frankly, we say that there is a peace plan, that's what this is for. and moscow is unprofitable for israel to deal with hamas quickly now, very unprofitable, because the problem will be removed and everything will be switched back to ukraine, and with even greater aggravation and ferocity, because israel certainly supports ukraine more decisively now. another extremely characteristic moment, some internal russian survey conducted by the levvada center, they are starting to measure sentiments, i don’t know whether such numbers helped them form, so to speak, whether it is really possible as such a statistical
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reflection of sentiments, what would one like 2/ 3, about 70% of russians, they would accept with gratitude if putin stopped the aggression against. of ukraine, but at a characteristic moment that less than a third of those people would like putin to return our illegally and temporarily occupied territory, but we understand that all these dances, starting from dagestan, ending with those and all the public opinion polls, are rather all about the events in six months, when putin will re-appoint himself. well, look, we really can't judge the reliability of all these numbers, we can't. judges, that is, they may be reliable, partly, they may not be, they reveal a trend, after all, the war has been going on for more than 20 months, already the twenty-first month, that's a lot, and that's a lot for ukraine, that's a lot for the world, that's a lot , but after all, it is a lot for the russians, it is also a lot, because
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every day the number of dead increases, but the costs of this war , in the economy, in the social sphere, yes, a lot , but it is not that they are so happy, the citizens of russia , yes, they can feel - certainly there is some desire that it would end faster, they can feel, there is no doubt about it , the second question, you understand, after all, we are dealing with a totalitarian system, it has already developed as a totalitarian one, there are separate elements , some clusters still remain of the former authoritarian period, so to speak, they somehow exist, like laconic ones, and there is simply an opportunity to go and rest in turkey, you know, from the times, so to speak, of even authoritarian putin’s russia, of the previous two, where or with internet access, this so to speak, it’s also reduced from there, but still it’s from my previous life, the question is how much putin should be listened to in connection with the elections and it is necessary to listen to such sentiments, i ’m not at all convinced that this can shake his decision, to continue do that
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what he did, you know, sociology is interesting, of course, you can adapt to it, maneuver , change some of your actions, but rely on public opinion, which is changeable... it is definitely not gathering, the elections will be held very casually, there are no elections, that is will announce this figure, but they will also measure whether it will not cause a riot, a response, that is exactly why there are discussions about the new mobilization, whether it will be conducted or not, before the elections after the elections, and so on, of course, this is not only a question of mobilization, it the question is more connected with public sentiments, which should not contrast too strongly with the actions of the authorities, too strongly , i think... that within the permissible range, moscow maneuvers well between its interests, it still implements them anyway, at least for war, at least in elections , and actually the dissatisfaction of citizens, yes, that is, they generally fully understand the border that they do not need to cross, that is why i personally believe that
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these sociological polls are more likely evidence of war fatigue in russia itself than of any readiness , wishes population to somehow change its destiny, but does not correct these plans in the main , in the general, to force putin to give up the war, only a military defeat, a truly military defeat, and this is a combination of all efforts, this is the very defeat of the war, and there desertion from the front, and pressure from the west is more decisive with the provision of a type of weaponry that will decisively change the balance, and so on and so on and so on, that's it, that's the mood of the people, that's what they will demand, let's stop fighting, we we don't want mobilize i won't, well, i can't help but remember the great prophet, so to speak, who has been hiding putin for more than one year, the legendary professor nightingale. i don't know who to believe anymore, you know, well, at the moment we see, if not a hologram, then at least the unchanged putin's policy
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, if putin really was lying in a refrigerator, you know, in white sneakers, well, clearly some other process has already begun, that is, we understand , that they would start fighting among themselves. clans, but the key story, if valery nightingale is sincerely wrong, then who cares can be actively used, and why is it bubbling so actively, everyone wants him to die, i want, you want, everyone wants him to die, so, you know, imagine, and they tell you, but he died, and people, oh, how, ah, how it flowed, warm, in the stomach, everything , that is, it is from a huge desire, you see, and people want to discuss it, because it creates such a kind of... a little playful, a little cheerful, but joyful inner mood , that they finally got rid of this cannibal, so people are very susceptible to it, i i think valery dmitrievich exploits it, i have this feeling , he knows it and he consciously parasitizes on it, this is what i can explain, now as for putin in
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the refrigerator, but by the way, i already said that this is a great meme, putin in the refrigerator , it means that he’s pushing, it sounds very good, putin in the refrigerator is a good name for the stream, yes, so i think that of course, there is a benefit to the buyer from this story, you know, the kremlin rushed to comment on it in the face of peskov, true, yes i could not comment, say, listen, there it is like, and they are commenting, this means that it could even be him... and it is beneficial that he is always buried, buried, put in a grave, put in a grave, then he has cancer , that’s another thing, and he’s the same as everyone, that is, the unkillable putin , that is, forget about the fact that putin can be destroyed, and even a handsome man went against him, and where is that handsome man of yours, you know, that is, it can be for the kremlin, this this is purely netshanskoye, you know, like zarathura, that is what zarathura used to say, what does not kill us, makes us stronger, yes, accordingly, putin's rumors about his death make him stronger, make him unkillable, and it is possible. the kremlin, maybe, even out of purely trolling such people, he has something in mind, he is also
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ready to eat on this topic, to show off, somehow, you know, to show, well, what is there, vladimirov, look at him, he is sitting at a meeting and so on далее, that you are buried early, you know, like rabinovitch, don’t wait in the joke, so here, they are ready to satirize it a little, but so, you know, with far-reaching goals, that putin is moving towards the elections of his seventies second year i can say that i am healthy, vigorous, and so on, that is why some kind of goal is pursued, well, they say cured cancer, and what, well, he is cured, let’s say, if this is really true, because a person who is sick, even not fatal, but a serious disease, that's how putin is, and he doesn't appear, he doesn't look, he doesn't do business, even from what we see, you know, i wanted to ask you, mark, about the american election cycle, we understand that the debate is ongoing, debates are unpleasant, well, we understand for what purpose, yes
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stabilization of the geopolitical situation, on the one hand, on the other hand, we understand that there are now powerful attacks on biden, because the democrats would rather nominate him, perhaps specifically, and accordingly, simon schuster's article appeared, you see, it's already been done just shusters in ukraine, well, in any case, a person who had some access to certain offices there, and the article is quite unpleasant, although it is quite symptomatic, because it caused a colossal resonance in various serious political circles, that is, the article more serious than, for example , the general of the svr about the dead putin in the refrigerator, well, frankly, such an article could have appeared an hour ago, well, a year and a half ago, well, during the war, it seems to me, no, it seems to me, no, somehow in general and ethically he would be subject to journalistic ostracism, to say the least, it is so mildly
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expressed, in this they would see the order, they would see the interests of the kremlin, and now , after some time, no one accuses him of that this is some kind of commitment he has, that's it he went, well somehow he found out everything, he gave such material, like an interview and zelensky accepted it and so on, he wrote such a thing, as you know, it certainly is, regardless of the fact that in my opinion the article is bad, in my личный взглад, yes, because she is such a poisonous person, she does not have the degree of objectivity that i would like to see, but it does not matter, there are no surnames, you see, she refers to some ephemeral advisors, there are no specific surnames, somehow he is also on this, well, yes, like the entourage of the president, really, that's who it is, that's such things, who's saying such things, well, okay, fine, i think that this is the atmosphere itself, it's now exactly the same as we talked about above, that, after all, it's going on too long
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the war, really exhausted public opinion , and the most important thing that affects everything inside america, precisely inside american problems, i mean the election, this aggravation is precisely connected with the election, because president biden is definitely now giving in to this narrative, which voziz, there is something personified with trump, the republicans, what are you hiding there, now they are gaining points, they are not losing points, because the middle east crisis he aggravated this whole situation, let's help israel first, then ukraine, this is a priority, and so on, in this of the situation, of course, of course, biden and his administration look quite faded, because it turns out that they did not solve one problem, in ukraine, they were called to this, they talked about it there since december last year, well, in general, with a successful operation hours ago in september, in kharkiv, what is needed decisively, now using the moment, giving all the necessary weapons, well, to achieve more decisive success, yes, to reach the sea,
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something else, during the counteroffensive and so on, and there was a pause, time , now he is being pecked for this in america a lot, on the one hand, on the other, they say, well, if you missed everything like this, then god be with him, let’s drop it all, we won’t get involved to such a degree, it depends on the situation in ukraine, it more is directed to not to ukraine, nor to zelsky, we are on... opinion in ukraine, and above all on america. it seems to me that this is to a large extent related to this, for sure it will continue until november , until the elections are held and in january, the new or former current president of the united states, this situation will only worsen, although it would be a simple reminder that it will be next year, yes, because someone might confuse it, of course, of course, in november 24 , the elections will be held, and if, so to speak, biden will defeat the opponent of the current president, then in
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january, somewhere around january 20, 2025, he will take the office of the first person, that is , the president of the united states, but until that moment there is still a lot... what can happen, a lot of things, it is important to state that if israel it will be possible in the foreseeable future, well, it's a month, a month and a half, there, i'm talking about such a time frame, to deal with hamas and even prepare the ground for strikes on iran, and i think that this is inevitable, this is my opinion that it is now inevitable, together with the united states, separately, but tem ne menes, then this will aggravate, worsen the situation for moscow, you know, delaying is beneficial now and there and there, so that these conflicts continue and continue, on this... moscow ultimately also played on this, on these moods, to be dissatisfied, this is how biden's opponent in the elections played in the americans, from this point of view, of course , the biden administration is more interested now in a decisive way to transfer all the necessary weapons to ukraine , so to speak, to help in a decisive way in order to achieve an obvious result, so that to cause some inspiration so that everything was not
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in vain, that we still achieved and so on, but the hostage indicated that it was necessary for this, right? he said about it, that is, to reproach that you didn't achieve what you had hoped for, he says, we only moved 17 km, we need to go 30 a day, well, you understand, how would this is all good, but even now there are still no planes and an insufficient number of long-range missiles of the agency and there is not much, and even current ammunition, there are problems with them in ukraine has problems with them, so america really needs to be determined, because the bayina requires determination, if you fight, then fight to the full without any restrictions, give us weapons. after all, it is not american soldiers who die, solve this problem that in israel, that in ukraine, in part of their powers, part of their competences, assistance, first of all military, which, well, in israel, the situation is a little different, of course, the task america will not allow it to escalate from a regional war into a regional war, if not a global one, yes,
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then in ukraine the task is more local - it is simply to give ukraine the opportunity to simply reach the sea and cut it. now it is not even possible, because in one day they will liberate the entire territory of ukraine, that is 19-20% of the occupied territory of ukraine, just let the fronts be cut, for this of course additional forces, means, resources and so on are needed, and then they will figure it out , corruption means how well or poorly managed it is, then, yes , please, just like in israel, now no one, no one comes to mind immediately shoot netanyahu, yes, no, already my friend, of course, we are with you. let's figure it out, you come on, solve the problem for us with gas, and then we 'll figure it out with you, that's how the problems are solved. thank you very much, mark, for this extremely interesting conversation, i want to remind our viewers that mark fegin, a member of the russian opposition, a former member of the state duma, was currently working on espresso. the time of our program has run out, stay with the espresso tv channel, my colleagues will inform you about all the most important
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we are somewhere in the vicinity of bakhmut. we tell the main thing. on weekdays at 9:00. friends, i congratulate you, already this week for rent. there was going to be a great movie coming out, a new movie by sergei bukovsky called ivan and martha, and it's about a pair of beaks, about mr. ivan and mrs. marta and tells about the 1960s in a completely new way, without the heroic pathos to which we are accustomed, which many do not like, sergei bukovsky shows first of all mrs. marta, because she became the main character of this story, because mr. ivan is yours enough. was ill in the last years of his life, let me remind you, he died two days before the full-scale invasion, well, actually mrs. marta talked about the story of their love, about how they survived the
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60s, and the repressions, the arrest of mr. ivan, and so on next, the film is extremely interesting, especially, i noticed it on thursday, because there was a premiere, well, one of the first screenings, and the whole hall was completely packed with different people, fashionable bloggers came, because the topic: the history of ukrainian satanism gained a new wave of popularity after a full-scale invasion , well, actually a lot of people just admired ms. marta, who came to this screening and she is a real movie star, she knows how to hold her own, she is extremely beautiful, she is a very beautiful and elegant woman, intelligent and simply, everyone in the hall was shocked by this, showered her with incredible compliments. in short, this movie is extremely interesting. but it was never released, well, on thursday you could see some screenings there, and then the distributors, producers announced, i
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quote, the release of the film is being postponed due to outstanding issues of producers from the state cinema, the new release date is currently unknown, the purchased tickets it will be possible to return it by contacting the cinema where you bought them, i recorded an interview with sergei bukovsky, actually now you you can watch it. and there he specifically talks about the state cinema, we do not know what happened to this rental in general, maybe there really are some problems with the documents, but on the other hand, now the film community has entered into an even greater confrontation with the management of the state cinema, a large part of the film community demands his resignation the head of the state cinema maryna kudarchuk , and serhiy bukovsky is demanding the same thing, but the other day he signed an open letter to the prime minister, which was written by representatives of the film industry, they demand from the head state cinema and its deputy, yulia shevchuk, demand not to consider the strategy for the development of cinema, which they wrote, and after all, such
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a struggle has now begun with new force, and since serhiy bukovsky, yes, one of those who are opposed to state cinema, may have started we don't know about any sanctions from this agency, as well as the insertion of sticks in the wheels. we are waiting for comments from the producers, for broader comments, for comments from the state agency on film issues, and for now i offer you this conversation with serhiy bukovsky, in fact he talks in it, but what is wrong with the state cinema of ukraine? once i told ivan mykhailovych that our film will be called ivan and marta, he smiled, as always discreetly, and later answered, maybe better. she says: come, there will be handsome boys from kyiv, but i also somehow tell her, i don't need boys from kyiv, i have more here than
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i need, i say no. there is absolutely no need for kyiv guys. from what i understand, the film was heavily modified, from the beginning, yes, when you started shooting it, all the way to the final version, and tell me when you were already on the installation, yes, where actually, well, the story itself is created , yes, well, it was, well, last year, and during the air alarms, we already reduced the sound during the blackout to the phonogram of the generator. there was no lighting, and somehow, somehow, in the end, everything ended, thank god, i understand that the film was already different during editing, you saw that it was not at all the way you imagined it, tell us about this difference, what happened at the beginning, when you just started shooting, even though it was not an idea, you started shooting already montage, and as a result, the audience will see what the difference is, well , it happens so often in documentary cinema, and that you
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have conceived one thing, then the film. it takes you somewhere completely, well, not in the other direction, but something changes, this is what i love about documentary cinema, that there is no concrete script here and it is such an improvisation, but we still tried to keep this improvisation in our hands and not let it go him, so that everything does not turn into chaos. no, it's quite normal, you don't have to be a hostage to your idea, you have to let yourself go, because life is much more interesting, richer. also because of that, we waited a long, long, long time until we received some, albeit small, financial support for this project, and when we were thinking about it, of course, the main character was dzyuba, ivan mykhailovych, but by the time everything was already there was already a motor-camera, as they say, ah, and he got tired very quickly, and marta
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asked him not to torture him too much, because he, by the way, marta volodymyrivna was absolutely right that he did not really want this film, he is a very modest person, and to him, well, this is not his cup of tea coffee to be there, a public person, he was working a lot at that time, we dreamed, but unfortunately it happened, to shoot such a plot line, which was prescribed even in ours. synopsis scenarios, how they work together with mrs. marta, when he was writing something, an article or a book, the two of them sat together and she listened, he read something, they corrected something, it was so very often such a comical situation, like the wife sits and listens, and what did the husband write, and they argued a lot there, in essence, well, what was taken, was taken,
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and there are many such... internal things, moments, family things that i simply cannot tell, they are already like that, the moments are closed to the viewer, well, that's how it happens in documentary cinema, it's not a feature film, that's why, that's why we put everything on marta's shoulders, of course, and ivan appears there in the climax, and at the beginning of the film, as we said, we say, we put him to sleep, at the end of the film, he appeared, woke up, came to the guests, well it is, to put it very simply, and that final monologue of his about good and evil, good there is still more than evil in the world, yes , although it is hard to believe, and although it is not visible, but it is so, because otherwise, otherwise
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life would not exist at all. if there was no such thing, this is the very first shooting , even when it was not even in our mind to make a film about ivan dzyub, it was that distant, long -ago project where we filmed people, and the sixties, in particular, and took it from there the small piece that he wrote in the finale of the film, his yes, talk about, after all, there is more good in the world. than evil, otherwise the world would not exist, so, well, i think that this happens very often in cinema, and we changed a little, the accents, changed, and changed the subject, and the movie came out, not about the drama of a dissident, it came out about people's relationships, about love.
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