[000:00:00;00] which allow, well, allow to restore this accuracy, i was not surprised by this, but there are certainly such sentences, it seems to me, that demining, there is the most difficult problem from what was named, from such that, well, it is very uncertain, because technologies in general, such technologies do not exist in order to pass such mini fields, that is why, of course, not everything, but there are things that i think are determined. that they can already be quickly resolved. oleksiy, can it be assumed that, conditionally speaking, this publication will be in economist such a certain argument for the same american partners of ours who say that we want to see a plan, victories or a victory program there, then from the ukrainian side we will say that this is our strategy, which provides for four technological directions there, if you

help to really get involved there , then we can talk about some kind of success on the field... if not, then relatively speaking, well, we have what we have, well, it seems to me that these processes are connected, those processes are more or less, i think they are positive, which are in the chamber representatives the us congress is now taking place regarding the vote, regarding ukraine, well, after all, positive statements are being made there, even from all spectrums, that there should be help, then the question arises, what is this help for, it cannot be, as before, here we see to which, it is said here, honestly, to which, in the end, the situation for ukraine is even, perhaps not the same, if you look at the tone of western publications, perhaps not even as strict as for israel, there in general, there are hints that the necessary political changes, they directly say that netanyahu should go, that's what, and then, and then, money is given for this, we

still don't have such a situation, yes, they say. about the fact that explain how you are trying to restore maneuver warfare, the explanation has been given, well, it seems, well, maybe there are some additional political demands, but we are not hearing them publicly now, we now see that there is a plan for restoration, well, let's move on , maintaining the offensive and resuming the de-occupation intensively, so to speak, and we see on the other hand that there are still positive discussions regarding... the provision of a large package of aid until well until presidential elections in the united states. here it is necessary to understand that the money, the decision that is being taken now regarding the money for ukraine, is the establishment of a limit, this does not mean that the money that will be given right now is being decided, no, this, this, the limit is determined, limit for a year, at least, and within this limit, already

at the level of the administration, at the level of... our government , these small packages of 500 million, 300 million will be constantly found out there, which will arrive regularly every month, but here is the principle decision that there is a vision and it is willingness of the contiguous states to continue aid, well i would say we are no worse off than israel. oleksiy, then the question arises, we now believe that this publication is aimed at our foreign partners, because it was published in a foreign publication. it will be guaranteed to be read by everyone who is related to the problems of ukraine, and then whether this publication, these technological trends or any other tasks before our structures, the ministry of strategy and industry, the ministry of defense, the ministry of statistics, in order to somehow satisfy these the needs that general zaluzhnyi sounds like for foreign partners, what

should we do ourselves? of course, that's all, well, it's just a question of how internal communication takes place, if, if, it turns out that this article, an external publication, is news for another part of the system, well, the security, defense system, well, then, then this is wrong, i still would like to believe that this is such an agreed-upon thing and everyone understands what needs to be done, and such a joint, well... a joint application has been made to the outside, but of course, first, any, any, any such, such a technological solution, it is in addition to the actual western weapons, which should already arrive modernized, what i said, protected by the gps signal, and well, that's what needs to be done, the rest should be done first of all by ukraine with the help of our partners, well, yes, it is so , but if we do not succeed in this, and we

talk to... for us something else and something else, well, i do not rule out that such a thing is possible, but additional explanations will be needed, and why exactly you can't do it, well, here's your money, here's your... technological help, and what you you can't do, but first of all, apart from what i said that certain, it said that certain western weapons would have to be modified to work in these new conditions, and the rest, well, basically we have to do with the help of our partners. oleksiy, thank you very much for taking the time for these explanations for our viewers, for your expert evaluations, i will remind our viewers that it was oleksiy ezhyak, an expert of the national and institute of strategic studies, and then we will talk about one of the five directions which valery zaluzhnyi offers a radical qualitative change for the conduct of combat operations on the battlefield, but this is already after the advertising

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now we are joined by the chairman of the board of the new energy alliance of ukraine, the commander of the special unit of strike drones, bily rel valery borovyk. mr. valery, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, congratulations, congratulations that you , like everyone involved in the military activities, carefully read the interview of valery zaluzhny, and the father of the proposal, the chairperson regarding the use of drones in different directions, what are your general assessments after you read these publications? well, quite frankly, clearly, clearly, and with the definition of the strategy, with the definition of what is necessary, as well as with a rather critical analysis of the situation, which is with a sober assessment of the potential of the russian federation, and those of the factions that, unfortunately, are our

enemy at this time was able to achieve, as well as with those where we want to go, what goals to achieve and on why concentrate, quite balanced, balanced and such a clear interview, i liked it, and when we talk about the direction related to unmanned systems, where valery zolozhny says that it is necessary to create a swarm application of systems that should jam the russian anti-aircraft system of defense for... different versions of drones that can work there in rere conditions and so on, as far as it currently corresponds to the potential, the technical potential, at which our enterprises that manufacture there are located, in all drones of various purposes are being developed, domestically manufactured drones of various purposes, what would you say , could you implement the requirements that the zazhulzhnyi set for new samples of disembodied subjects at the facilities of your enterprise in particular, see the requirements enough.

quite true, uh, the question is, i compare what i am chasing with, using rebu and countering rebu, you know, like with doping, yes, who, who will make a new decision, in a new invention, who will move forward faster, that and for this particular period will reign in the sky, if we are talking about drones, that's for sure as well as in doping, there is an anti-doping check, how fast it goes, along with how doping is made, yes, and here we can say that russia, unfortunately, is one step ahead today, it is quite serious in these six months even increased capacity and technology, including in the rebov plan

, that is, in the system of countering drones and in the reb system of jamming drones, they were already one of the leaders, now they have taken the lessons from the previous year and made changes to their decision, and we feel it. our last one departure in the zaporozhye direction is, in principle, a loss of drones, and few people can oppose these, these systems. constantly, that is, this is a constant struggle, tactics of application, you look for these gaps in - in total, rebov, rebov resistance, you look for when there is a change in them, that is, these walls, conventionally speaking, of radio-electronic warfare, you need to decide to fight them not only there technological solutions, but also tactical application, but first of all, of course, it is necessary

to do this with technological solutions, as far as the ability in this, well, look, we are after the last departure, we are now changing one decision , we understand how to change it, what was bothering us, and we will leave in the east, use it there for several weeks, so what is good, for example, unfortunately for manufacturers, what a pity for the manufacturers, because this is happening on our land, but ukraine is now a training ground for such military technologies, where the manufacturers can, mr. valery, a request for you to open the microphone, it seems that you must have closed it, and it is not quite audible ours viewers, now it's better, yes, and if you basically continue to use your complexes now, which would be quite a lot, just

last week there were publications that your company is setting up a mass serial production of a repulsive strike drone, so the question is how to ensure scaling , are there any current problems that you are solving, and how is this funding, which was directed to the fact that there are 40 billion uah for the manufacture of drones, how did it reach your company, if the... sources, as well as with those that we refer to as special forces that go outside of... state contracts, we, now a few for special ones, mr. valery, now we have to call you back, because the audience can't hear, we will now call you again, i'll remind you, that this is valery borovyk, the chairman of the board of the alliance new energy of ukraine, this alliance unites a number of companies

that manufacture strike reconnaissance drones, among them such drones as vicy or, which actually. have been destroying the enemy on the front line for a long time, and mr. valery, i ask that you continue your opinion on how scaling is ensured, at what cost and whether the government's assistance is primarily financial from the point of view of ensuring more production of those samples that are needed on the battlefield. unfortunately, unfortunately, the contract is still in the process of conclusion, but, you know, this is what we faced. that the state special forces , in the form of specialists dealing with drone topics, took over the functions of assessing combat capability, price policy, and so on, so they are currently not,

fully comply with resolution 256, where you give all the documents, give the need, we need several special forces, and they have to sign a contract and provide funding, now we have already produced enough drones to provide the first batch, but so far we do not have a signed contract, and this is a problem and not only ours, i think that we will now very seriously analyze how these funds were allocated, to whom they were allocated, to which companies, who, and who will actually be able to fulfill those the delivered volumes that were written in the contracts, because it turns out, it may turn out that some companies have recorded large amounts of finance for themselves, not you, will not be able to fulfill them by the end of the year, there is a re-signing of, for example, additional agreements for the next year,

and at the same time, those companies that have not signed up cannot produce products at the expense of state funding, and there are other, very serious, issues, this is the policy of evaluation and pricing, which was highlighted by the state, an institute that should evaluate, in fact, your complex, when the institute evaluates this complex, it already sets the final, version of the evaluation, according to those parameters that are prescribed in all the necessary documents, but eh, the state intelligence service may not accept this evaluation, or freeze it and say that it is not yes, for example, here is a drone, if he is not talking about a drop-off, i and you talked, it is compared, compared to fpv drones made by china, which have now been bought a lot, and which are actually

made from chinese components, there is nothing ukrainian there, we have we don't have a drone, we have a drone performs tasks on the mission to start. over over over the target, who works under the reb and not only under the reb, but with eltaye dems, who performs special operations, which we will not talk about further, and in fact, these, let's say so, are unprofessional assessments of incompetence, they lead to the fact that what is this brand becoming, and look at this axis, the residents are comparing this drone and this one, made from ukrainian equipment, made from ukrainian... made using completely different technologies with what is simply assembled from a hobby, and such things are happening not only with the osa drone, for example, with the interception drone, all the documents are collected, but somewhere there is a delay

in meeting, holding a meeting and so on, and time goes by, you need to buy equipment, you need to continue ... to let, therefore, for today, we are working on our own funds, on the funds of those that we attract, and we are analyzing how we should proceed, we will see next week, if there is no contracting, we will to take the following actions and take any seriously legal aspects, and as i understand it, mr. valery, we are talking about precisely the money that goes through min-digits and contracts with the ministry of digital transformation and or with state communications, these are not contracts with the ministry of defense, that is, you now hoped that that ottsich will go exactly along this line, was considered the most flexible and most adequate in terms of interaction with state bodies, but we see that in reality, here we are slowly entering

such a dead end, and then the question arises, what about the ministry of defense, the same seems to have made simplified procurement decisions drones, rep systems, does this give you such a window of opportunity to readjust and start working then with the ministry of defense, we, we work in parallel with the ministry of defense. , yes, here it cannot be said that the first, the first way is the ministry of statistics, the ministry of statistics gives all its, let's say, work experience, evaluation of companies and so on, it gives all this to the state special communications, the money, the budget allocated for the state special communications, and the state intelligence service finally signs contracts for the supply of goods, they never even submit, well, it’s very

strange, for example, they can call the special unit, or the customer in the person of the chiefs of the bpp, the military and say, listen, you better not contract this, but contract this, we already see several such trends, and well, this is such a bad bell, because state telecommunications is actually a structure that must accept documents, if they all comply with the 256th resolution, hold commission meetings and contract according to needs special forces, according to the needs of the armed forces, there are the national guard , sbu, guru and so on, it takes on non-specific functions that, in principle , border on exceeding the powers of the state body and representatives of the state

body, then when they start entering, already mr. maria, an important point , i am asking you to definitely reconnect once again, because what you are saying is starting to disappear , i want the audience to hear it and i don't have the sound right now, i would like to remind you that this is valery borovik, the chairman of the board of the new energy association of ukraine, it is about the production and scaling of the production of drones, because we know that we have significant sums declared there for their production, but we see that this path of creation and production is now again running into some strange bureaucratic obstacles, because relatively speaking , state communications. the structure that should not evaluate the samples is now actually acting as a brake on these processes, and mr. valery, i would like to clarify whether this is a situation related

only to your company, or whether a similar method of actions of the state intelligence service is characteristic of others as well companies that manufacture drones and offer them for the needs of the defense forces, well, i don't have statistics on how many companies are in the same situation, but i know that there are several companies that are in a similar situation, of course, which i cannot speak for my colleagues, i cannot speak for those colleagues who received contracts and are implementing them, the main thing is that everything is transparent, clear, honest, and let's say yes, such, according to the same procedure for all companies, not so , so that one company received more, could not to perform, postponed this contract to the next year, and... at the same time, other companies do not perform, it is not that they do not perform, but they are not contracted and they are not contracted and not

financed, this is unacceptable, and of course we have to carry out an analysis of how the funds were allocated, what the results of the allocation of funds were, what the results of impressions were, how much funds were allocated, for example, from these 40 billion for the purchase of non-ukrainian manufacturers, and how effectively it was used. that's why you and i are talking to the market participants that we should go to - ukrainian production, to localization, so that we do not depend on our now friendly partners , nor on potential enemies and those who support our enemy, that is why we need to make ukrainian production, and not finance china or other countries, and so much... programs that are approved by the cabinet of ministers now, that will be approved in the future, as far as they

allow the implementation of this production strategy in... ukrainian, ukrainian military, defense segments of ukraine, so this whole analysis must be carried out, we have already began to conduct it, because, well, we concentrated on two devices, and today we, we deal with them and do them, but we did not see, after the evaluation of the ministry of digital transformation, they did a great job, when it went into the contracting stage, we took issue with the issues that i raised and they need to be taken down, you remember we talked on the last show about the procedures that were preventing admission to operation and uh, we raised very seriously this is a question before the general staff or before the ministry of defense, the ministry of digital affairs, and so on, and now these procedures have been changed, and it is very good

that the state is reacting to the fact that the market is slowing down due to procedures that, well , are not typical of a military situation, it is also necessary to check whether everything faithfully works in those bodies that are responsible for contracting, for drones, for for saturation with drones, advanced, so all companies that have capabilities, for example, like ours, evaluated capabilities, have, have experience, have products. have a place to apply and have needs from the defense forces of ukraine, to what extent they are all contracted, how transparent, clear and honest it was, because i know that now there are and will be audits, i understood the main challenges, thank you very much for this, well, new data, it is extremely important for our society, we will follow this

issue, it is extremely important, i will remind our viewers that valery borovyk was in eteriso, he is the commander of the white eagle special unit of strike drones. wear treatment, let's start with washing, and the first to the nose - of course, maridosa. there are discounts on maridoz. 20% in pharmacies, plantain, bam and savings. in 2023 this year espresso celebrates its tenth anniversary. we are proud to present our new ethereal look. stay tuned for an updated espresso, because despite everything, we stay in touch. the information hour on the espresso tv channel continues. our viewers, to whom we are infinitely grateful for their trust, are in touch with you. greetings,

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in the morning, from monday to friday, at 20:00. in 1992, when savok disintegrated, that’s right, let’s just think with you, that ’s right, we gained independence, belarusians gained independence , the baltic states gained independence, georgia, all 14 countries that broke away from the rsfsr gained independence, and they, they in 91- in the year 1992, yeltsin wanted to go on the air to address the citizens and , you know, so to speak, comrades, well , not comrades, what about russians, mr. oleksandr, i apologize, the topic is extremely interesting, we just don't have enough time,