[000:00:00;00] worked in the ministry of finance, obviously he should not write to facebook, but should write to the prime minister, to the same first deputy prime minister of finance, with the fact that there is such a critical situation and it is necessary to deal with it, for there are mechanisms for this inside the apparatus, inside what he wrote, well, maybe the guy has some prospects, when officials write such and such things, it means that he probably already has some plans to go to the public sector. to fly, to say directly that what he wrote, that it is critical, well, on today, unpleasant, not critical, critical was the summer, then the end of spring, the beginning of summer, when we were fighting, because then the situation was much tougher, and in general, this is such a problem, on the one hand, there is the desire of the state to take taxes , on the other hand, there is a desire to pay them

less, but i would not see that it is... critical and everything has stopped, in reality it is not so. mr. mykhailo, thank you for the discussion, mykhailo nepran, the first vice-president of the chamber of commerce and industry of ukraine was with us, and we have not finished with andrii and more to discuss, and another time, i think we will still have some ahead of us, there is little time, andrei , we are given little time, there is not enough, it is time to just somehow go beyond the limits, to do something more, the show is so serious, big, and with experts, additional ones that will help us, in short, are needed. big economic show is coming out, and we will talk more, sir, we agreed, thank you, thank you, we tell our viewers that we are going on a short break now, then we will come back and continue, we will have an expert on international security, the fund of the democratic initiative taras zhovtenko, by the way, one more short, short note about mayakovsky, i’m just here, i remembered that he was of ukrainian origin, his ancestors were from the cossacks

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zhovtenko, international security expert of the democratic initiatives foundation, candidate of political sciences and member of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine about the important events of the week, which are both about ukraine and about the world, mr. . taras, congratulations, let's start with today's news that volodymyr zelenskyi 's planned visit to israel has again been put on hold and is being postponed for the time being, or is canceled, who knows, by the way, this is happening against the background of the visit of, for example, the prime minister of hungary, that is, hungary with a lot of problems and calmly accepting, blinken three times already, and, in fact, already, i do not know who only from european ... countries, i have not gone there, but something from zelsky is already the second time , what is happening, what is happening , congratulations, i think that here, the main role is actually played by the fact that, well,

our western partners are trying, to avoid these too close direct parallels between ukraine and israel, in the context of the fact that, let's say, the support of western countries - ukraine in the fight against the russian invaders and israel in the fight against the terrorist attacks of hamas, in fact, should be linked strategically as a whole to such a concept of inadequate security, because it is obvious , in principle for everyone, that the same international players are behind both of these incidents, behind both of these wars, yes, that is, the connection between tehran, moscow and hamas is absolutely obvious, as is the evidence of the connection between, if attacks on ukraine, a then on the state of israel, but given the fact that we see that many western allies do not have, well, let's say such a stable and holistic vision of these processes, well

, in the united states of america, the republicans are trying to screw it up, so to speak , yes, this is the strategic vision of the biden administration about the indivisibility of support, political and military-technical ukraine and israel, an agreement with domestic political interests, we see that western european countries also have certain problems with this, taking into account the ambiguous the perception of the palestinians and the ambiguous perception of israel's actions in relation to, well, the population of the gaza strip, and i think that in this case, well, this situation is taking place, when president zelensky's aziz he, well, it's really not the time yet, given the fact that our western allies already have certain problems with how to perceive israel's actions, how to position chehal's actions in the gas sector, and accordingly, how to draw these direct parallels between ukraine and israel, as two democratic

countries that are victims of armed aggression, in fact, which originates from one center of this axis of evil, so i think that given the difficult situation in israel itself and the israelis. in particular, because, well, we should also not take for granted the fact that the figure of the prime minister of israel, netanyahu, is also quite specific in this whole story, well , taking into account the role he played before the beginning of the hamas attack on israel , yes, there were a lot of internal political problems, he had a lot of problems with his own security apparatus, and it is obvious that politically everything will be very difficult for mr. netanyahu in the near future , and of course, the beginning of the ground phase of operation tsehal in the gas sector, and also unclear political priorities, yes, that is, it is clear that

israel wants to destroy hamas as a military and political entity, but on the other hand , the political strategy, the political strategic goals of this campaign, they are absolutely unclear, what will happen next with the gas sector, well , that's it. will remain there and carry out the occupation, will there be any peacekeeping mission, for example, arab countries, i think that this is exactly what mr. blinkin is doing, well, it is not so much contacts with netanyahu directly, but contacts... with arab allies, such as, for example, saudi arabia, and well, the possibility that strategically, if this situation in a political sense were to be turned around so as not to create preconditions in the gas sector for the creation of hamas 2:0, well, because it is clear that the palestinian population is now absolutely one hundred percent against the state of israel, against the actions of the israeli defense forces on the territory of the gas sector, and something must be done about this too, that is, this whole complex of problems... it seems to me that it absolutely cannot but influence the fact that, well,

let's say, president zelensky's visit to israel right now, he will to show too bright parallels between the situation with israel and the situation with ukraine, and well, this will not be very convenient in the context of the peacemaking efforts of the west in the middle east, and it is clear that it will not be very convenient for either the american politician or our key allies in western europe. oh, by the way, this the question of what's next, in particular. and what to do with israel , what to do with ukraine, in the end, raises the question, this is thomas friedman , a well-known american journalist, you have probably read his column, just as it is published, in particular on hb, printed it, he seems to be for new york times, and thomas friedman says that it is necessary to support both israel and ukraine without options, these are the countries that must win now both in their wars. but this victory will not be the one that

tel aviv hopes for and it will not be the one that kyiv hopes for, because in the end it will have to to make certain compromises, er, this is his opinion, i understand that this opinion has already prevailed to a certain extent among our allies and what this will mean for us, by the way, in the near future, but if we take the specific current moment, then indeed we we see that quite a lot of such voices are beginning to be heard in the west about the fact that a victory, well, let's say so, and a political settlement, and the russian-ukrainian war, and er, war, of hamas against israel is really theoretically possible , well , it will actually depend, not so much on fulfillment of absolutely all priorities, of the israeli and ukrainian sides, in this case, each in its own specific case, how much from some certain compromise... options, but it seems to me that there are two points here

that we should also not let out of our attention , the first point is that, well, actually , the opinion of our western partners, it can change, and what is being heard now is absolutely not the official position, of our key western allies and equally key allies of israel in the west, yes, that is it's just alternative the opinions that are now being discussed in the public space and no more , yes, that is... are not transformed into some official position and they are not transformed into some kind of official political strategy, both in relation to the russian-ukrainian war and in relation to the war on the middle east is now so palestinian-israeli and the second point is also very important, in fact it is that these thoughts reflect what is happening now, as they say on the ground, and what is happening on the battlefield in ukraine and what happening in the gas sector in general,

i.e. well, in ukraine we have a situation that was very well described by general zaluzhnyi in his article for zaeconomist, yes, well, this is a situation, well, in fact, which is approaching patova, and in order to prevent this situation from going into such circumstances, it is necessary to look for some new technological solutions in order to ultimately move this whole situation, all these circumstances in favor of the armed forces of ukraine, and we see that, in principle... the ground phase of the tsekhalo operation in the gas sector, it too develops absolutely, well, obviously far from visions, c prime minister netanyahu himself is the first priority, and this operation will also take, well, according to the estimates of the israeli military, at least 3-4 months there, and that is under very favorable circumstances, if other players do not intervene in this situation, such as well, hezbollah, for example, or iran directly, or other iranian proxies in the region. and if this happens, the situation will

change even more, so to speak. and here are the thoughts of our western allies, they are now a reflection of what is happening now, but it will not be this does not mean that with the change of circumstances in ukraine, for example, and in israel, these opinions will not also change and evolve. mr. taras, about the opinions of our allies at biden's in the white house, they said that the aid packages for ukraine... are smaller due to the fact that congress cannot reach an agreement in a vote, and we see that interest in ukraine is decreasing, decreasing in therefore, it manifests itself in this way, moreover, polls of americans have shown that among americans who believe that the united states provides too much aid to ukraine,

there have already been more of them, they are now about 40%, six months ago there were about 30 %, but actually these trends are understandable to a certain extent, yes, with the rest of the united states of america, american citizens should focus primarily on their own problems, internal, on their own national interests, and to what extent , they argue, the need for assistance to ukraine and the influence of ukraine and in general on what is happening on our territory, on what is happening inside the united states of america and on the security of the american state, it is after all the responsibility of the same biden administration, that is, it is already a plane. american domestic politics, in which, of course, not without our active participation, but nevertheless, a key role must be played by the current american administration, which must ultimately correctly build its own strategy, which, to a certain extent, we can agree with the critics of the biden administration in to the republican party, not with the trumpists,

of course, but with those moderates who say that, well, in the grand scheme of things , biden's strategy regarding ukraine is lacking... goals and there is a lack of a vision of a specific result, well at least at the level of an articulated result, yes, that is, this constant struggle in biden’s entourage between blinken and austin on the one hand and the director of the tsar burns and the president’s security adviser sullivan, yes, they have polar points of view on what should be the victory of ukraine. sullivan and burns defend the point of view that it should not be a loss for ukraine, but also not...' a complete and utter fiasco for the russian federation, but austin and blinkin defend a different point of view, that the victory of ukraine has to be the defeat of the russian federation, well, at least in the military sense, and the biden administration was also constantly swaying in its official positions, and from one side to the other, well, this ultimately led to the fact that

, indeed, it is possible that if one of the vectors was chosen , then if it would be more clear, well, for what purpose and for what purpose does all the military aid that is sent to ukraine serve, and on the other hand, the fact that now the white house announces that these aid packages will be reduced, it is well really objective the situation of the fact that there are 10 days left of this 45-week temporary budget, which was adopted before all these events, and in the end we see that there is now an active discussion between democrats and republicans about, well, how the implemented should be implemented voting for this package, a large package of aid to ukraine, well, it is clear that we have already been separated from israel, and objectively , there is nothing tragic about it, as they say, because, well , it does not affect the amount, the final amount of money, with on the other hand, israel for the united states is official, with

the official status of the main partner of the us outside nato, yes, that is, aid is implemented there under completely different mechanisms and in completely different volumes. but the fact that ukraine should remain a priority is also said by the new speaker, newly elected from the republican house of representatives, mr. johnson, and in the end, the republicans are not against the fact that the issue of ukraine is tied to the issue of, for example, the security of the southern borders of the united states of the united states of america, the border with mexico, and, for example, to support taiwan, this is not the worst development, and in the end, the main thing here is that in these 10 days, these negotiations... come to some kind of constructive finale, well, in the end, that all this is voted as it is being talked about, including and the republicans, who absolutely do not refuse to continue supporting ukraine. we have literally two minutes left, i think i will have time to ask one short question and hear a short answer, although it is quite global.

yesterday we spoke with the deputy speaker of the knesset, a native of ukraine, yevhen sova, from the mykolaiv oblast, and he is from and that he talked about how the political situation in the country of israel is currently structured, about the fact that there is such a thing as military censorship, about the fact that there is such a thing political censorship, its complete absence, about how, for example, the coverage of war activities is organized , who does it, the tzahal army does it, well, in a word, about what is happening in society, it is very different from what we have in ukraine we see, not to mention the government of national unity, which lessons we can...' actually spy on your opinion in israel, we literally have a minute for an answer, but the very first lesson, in fact, is in how controversially the relations between the highest political leadership of the state of israel developed and, unfortunately, continue to develop,

by the same prime minister netanyahu and his military commanders , so to speak, and here the specifics in the personality of binyamin netanyahu himself and the specifics in the political background with which israel entered this war, he entered this war with very serious internal political problems, and therefore these problems actually did not go anywhere, the main of these problems was once again prime minister netanyahu, and it is clear that the echo of these problems, it actually continues to be felt in this coalition government, the new israeli , and in the way the relationship is built between the political leadership of israel and its power apparatus , that is, there is a lot here, you can talk in detail, for a long time about the pros and cons of all this, but we must understand that this is the greatest danger when these echoes political... crises in the relationship between the political and security leadership of the state, well, they influence, continue to influence, more precisely, so

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pressing questions, authoritative comments and forecasts in the information marathon project with vitaly portnikov. every sunday at 20:10 at espresso. the war in ukraine is the main topic for ukrainians. wins and losses, analysis and forecasts, politics and geopolitics. serhiy rudenko and the guests of his program will talk about all this. people who have information and shape public opinion, people who defend ukraine and create the future right now, the main and interesting thing in the program verdict with serhii rudenko, from monday to friday, at 20:00, and now our daily column fact- true or fake checking, we are joined by katarina marchent, de abrus. today we will talk about fake magazine covers that are published on social networks, on which it is indicated that ukraine does not support israel catalino,

tell us about it, that's right, it's about non -existent magazine covers that will be distributed mostly by russian propaganda channels and websites. let's look at the first example, which was published on october 19. the user points out that this is the cover of the german satirical magazine titanic. so we can see that the cover is dedicated to halloween, a group of people are asking for candy and most of them have masks on their faces and insult the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi. we also see. another character who is dressed in the national jewish costume, its pumpkin is filled with sweets, those with the mask of president zelensky, the pumpkins are empty, there is also an inscription: this time there will not be enough sweets for everyone, that is, it is meant that the event will run out of funds for financial assistance to ukraine, of course such a cover the german magazine titanic has never had it, and

it's easy to check by going to their website, which has... all publications for the year 2023. so we see that our fake cover is not here. and in general, president zelsky, who asks for money among recent publications for september, may or november. there is none. so. quite such a dangerous story, because it is very easy to believe and believe in it, we know that similar statements have already been made, in particular, it is about the cover of a turkish magazine, tell me more, please, just like that, here is the cover of the turkish magazine liman, which was shared on social networks ex and which also depicts president zelensky. here

you see how he folded his hands and curses against the background of what resembles events. it seems to israel that all journalists have forgotten about the president zelsky and directed their attention to what hamas is doing. there is also an inscription that he is ready to return all the attention of the media tweet to ukraine. of course, such a publication never happened. in the upper left corner you can see the magazine number, 1647. we checked this issue of estuary magazine and this is what the satirical magazine issue under this number actually looked like. we see two men crossing the street, and no mention of zelensky, either in this issue or in other publications on the limon website for 2023. we also switched to

twitter and pointed out that such a publication has never happened, that they. quite interesting, because this is not the first time we have seen such fake magazine covers distributed by russian propagandists, right? indeed, this is a fairly common practice of spreading russian disinformation about the war in ukraine, with the help of fake covers, well-known western magazines, as well as in the news of the western media, and it is especially aimed at discrediting ukraine and president zelensky. we will continue to see this, and the current fake is definitely not the last. we used to saw such a cover of the titanic magazine, on which president zelsky was depicted, but we are not only talking about magazines, limen and titanic, similar fake covers also appeared in the charlie hebdo magazine, and to be

more precise, for the year 2022, at least six such fake covers were swarming on the internet, so you can imagine how many... such fakes were created in 2023 and they are really misleading, because president zelenskyi and the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine posted on their twitter accounts on october 7, immediately after the brutal attack by hamas expressed unquestioning support for israel's right to self-defense. catalina, thank you for dispelling these fakes for us. ukraine is football, our national team personifies the hopes and pride of ukrainians. espresso tv channel, together with vibet, recalled 10 significant milestones in the history of ukrainian football. there is a key moment in the project. the premium sponsor