[000:00:00;00] of these things, zelenskyi said, he allows elections to be held in the spring of the 24th year, that is, this is such a hesitation, and the question is, why , and the question, why, in general, why ca n’t the ukrainian establishment say in chorus at the same time, there will be no elections, because the front and the elections - this seems to me to be something, too much, will stretch the back of the ukrainian people who are already so...' tense, including the elections, well, i absolutely agree with you, the problem is that there are two factors that affect the conduct of the elections, the first - this is an external factor, we are under pressure from our own, part of our partners and part of the establishment of our foreign partners who say that you should hold elections because you are a democratic

country, well, that's an argument, i tell you... that from 39 to 45 years in england, in britain there were no elections, there there was, there was a war, there was churchill, he ruled his country, the war ended, elections were held, so it happened that he was not a permanent minister. the second is why the president hesitates, well, there are different points of view within the government, and some of those people who, let's say, advise him, they say, in your current rating... is relatively high, you can move on the basis of this, no one knows what will happen there in a year, this is the same logic, my logic, like that of most other public organizations that signed the petition, as well as most of the opposition politicians , is because the elections, well, apart from the technical problems, the elections at the front, in the occupied territories abroad, will simply tear the country apart, well, you can imagine what the elections are, this is

the sweat... well, shit, the candidates will pour out each other's candidates, and we will to tell in the conditions of war, which the commander-in-chief is simply wrong, i don’t want to use the terms there, maybe he didn’t really make mistakes, serious mistakes, but let’s leave it at that, after the war, we won’t analyze it, but not at the front, when soldiers, fighters, officers, generals they will... tell you how the supreme commander-in-chief did it wrong, i associate all of this with the situation of february and after until november 17th in the russian empire, when kerinsky was, you know, what he was called, the supreme chief negotiator, then too, they said that we needed democracy, they adopted

the corresponding order, a soldiers' committee, elected commanders, democracy, how did it all end, the revolution and the loss of the war. i am not for the russian empire to win the war, to win it, but i am against ukraine losing the war and losing as a result of these elections, which can push our country not to democracy, but to anarchy and defeat. yes, well, there, before all this started, putin was killed there, i yes, well, someone would have killed putin here, maybe not you can kill, and putin will get wet somehow, then the question is this, this question is no longer political, but humorous- ironic, political or humorous or sarcastic-political, people simply discuss it and i am very much asked to talk about it with specialists, or with who, if not with you, but where does this narrative

come from, which is enough ... mr. arestovych loudly proclaims that we need peace on the territory instead of the territory, instead of nato, and if, i want to tell you that if you and i, mr. igor met somewhere in a cafe for a beer, maybe we too they would talk about it, but it's not a public sphere, you know, you can't talk about defeat during the war, it looks kind of strange, but then questions arise. why, excuse me for taftology, do such ideas arise that gain enough supporters that maybe we should really come to an agreement with muscovy and start peace negotiations, well , it is clear that several factors are also at play here, well, as you know, in ukraine there was a part of such , you know the electorate, which is under the influence of certain political forces, it oriented itself towards

the north, well, after february 24, i hope that this, the share of this electorate, it has drastically decreased, and this is objective, you understand. the russians there destroy people who speak, they speak russian, they say that they came to liberate them, on the contrary, they kill them, so this is a completely natural process, but, well, people, some of them remained, and they are voters , and they will focus on those people who will say something like this, no longer some kind of eternal union, not a customs union, but that it is necessary to somehow conclude peace. to have some kind of friendship, well, and the second factor is this objectively, we all, society is tired of the war, it counted on a year, well, a year and a half at the most, now we don't have such a perspective, when we regain consciousness, when we

can say that in a year, in six months, the war will end, that's why these conversations about war fatigue, against the background of war fatigue, they will increase it objectively and there will be people who do not care about the future of our country, the future of our nation, our people, the fate of individual people, and they will think and tell us how it is better for us to surrender to russia. because mr. arastovych, he is so very a kind of a kind of political person, he was there with the russian nationalists, if i am not mistaken with the same dugin and so on and so on, that is why we have to keep a very sharp ear here and it is not excluded that some field representatives of the political establishment, including the working elite, the ruling elite, they launch such trial bullets in order to

feel the reaction of our society, politicians, civil society, to such narratives. yes, i understand, but you understand, on the one hand, we really have a democracy, with on the other hand, the war, and these are... and i think that if i were to sit here from morning to night and tell everyone, we are tired, ladies and gentlemen, we are tired, we need to rest, we are tired, then i think because half a month, then everyone will start, but somehow we are really tired, if such narratives are constantly exploding, then everyone thinks, maybe i am really tired, what is this, i didn’t know that i was tired, and here it turns out, arestovych told me , oh sure, i'm tired. how many people at the front of our soldiers will say that we are tired and there they are they really get tired when they are there for six months to six months at the front directly without change, then a person really

blends in and not here in the rear, but here is such a suggestion, when you are tired, let us have a better peace, before that there is not a political, but a military one censorship, and there are absolutely norms of the constitution, which, gentlemen, would be closed down, gentlemen, who spread these fables about peace, which amounts to simply surrendering without, without weapons, the surrender and capitulation of ukraine, by the way, mr. aristovych is abroad, as far as i know, he is not in ukraine, well, god bless you all, we will go further, with mr. zhnanov and talk about what? in a few days there will be some kind of interim decision on whether to start talks with ukraine about european integration, funderlein says that excellent results have been achieved,

as far as you think, it is beneficial that these negotiations will begin by the new year, we are not saying how they will end, they may last for decades, but the fact that they will begin is already a big step forward towards european integration. has ukraine done its homework ? let's do it, first of all, i don't think that the negotiations will start before the new year, that complicated, rather bureaucratic process, but what will be announced, that the negotiations will begin, will begin, it will be announced, well , i think, in the same month of november, and, let's say, yes, ukraine has done its homework , if we talk about all these six, tasks, somewhere on four, there are some problems, it is related to the law on the oligarchy , let the west itself figure out what we need to do, there are problems with the law on national minorities, although it has been adopted, but it is under such

a frenzy under the pressure of hungary, it was partly accepted by romania that there are a lot of us there a knock was made, but there is no truth, children, so i think that they will tell us, we are starting negotiations, you will finish the truth. you still have a couple of months to finally solve these homework assignments, and then we will sit down with you at the negotiating table, because there are a lot of cases, it is a big bureaucratic one. procedure, so i think that such negotiations will already begin next year, look, this is ukraine's progress towards european integration, is it formal or actual, because it is very difficult to understand here, legislatively, maybe fulfilled, there they said to adopt 26 such laws and 17 such, fine, there is a parliament, everyone voted, they raised their hands and everything is fine, but we understand with you that there are exceptions like estonia, like poland, like

the czech republic, which are much wider they took steps, i apologize for the toftology to europe, and there is romania, bulgaria, which is like it is in the russian language, so there is the word siminili, yes, chik-chik-chik, very, very, compared to such huge steps of the same poland , ukraine, yes, formally, it can accept everything, but not our life will change, well, we are formally, in fact, going to europe, indeed, now this is the idea of ​​even such a respected journalist as you and me, these are formal steps, but we had to accept it, and we accepted it, especially since we have a majority there, mon there is a majority, the power is unified and so on, well, why not accept it, if there are preconditions for this, but after these laws are adopted, they... must be implemented, someone will say, well, they are not implemented in our country, that is

not quite true, because any official, when he sits there, i remember, i was minister, there was a prescription, you need to hold a discussion with some law, a public discussion, if you don't hold it, you can't submit a normative legal act for consideration by the cabinet of ministers, which means you won't adopt a resolution, you won't fulfill some prerequisites there, formal thing, without it you cannot go further, so at first it is perceived as a formality, and then it turns into real meanings, it is filled with certain meanings and procedures, and democracy is a procedure, as we know, the last question, in the same thing , yes, a the ukrainian people, ukrainian citizens, they are already semi-european, because when you and i were still talking about in the 90s, and a lot of people, we need to go to europe there, and i said,

well, like this, this is to europe, a lot of time has passed, there are definitely positive changes , the nation is definitely changing, the two revolutions have definitely pushed the majority of people into some kind of pro-european plane, but ukrainians are already europeans, ukrainians have never been, never stopped being europeans. we were, are and will be an integral part of europe and european nation, because the first crack that happened happened 1000 years ago , in 988 ad, when the prince, the grand prince equal-to-the-apostles volodymyr the great, accepted christianity, by the way, all these fables that accepted orthodoxy,

there was no orthodoxy at that time, roskov took place in 1054, i am a historian, a historian, i will tell you in secret that they accepted, don’t tell, don’t tell putin, because he is in such a pleasant state of confusion that what happened there, that is, we formed as a great european state, our, well, well-known facts, the daughter of yaroslav the wise, anna became the queen of france, some came out, i don't remember for scandinavian. in my opinion, monarchs and so on and so on, that is, ukraine was then in the form of the kievan rus, it was formed as a european, christian state, and we became part of europe , they tried to tear us out of it, they tried to plant these asian orders on us, but i think that we have de facto returned to the european family, i thank mr. igor zhdanov, i have always appreciated his political optimism, it is always nice, igor zhdanov,

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understand it somehow, because we have it too there is also a war going on. anna ukolova, press secretary of the tsahal, and anna, hello, good evening, thank you, tell me if i am speaking correctly, after all, i am watching, jews speak tsahal, and ukrainians speak tsahal, and russians, by the way, also speak tsahal, yes tsahal or tsahal, well really tsaal is an abbreviation, that is, in hebrew, tsaganali israel, well, that is , if na speaks in hebrew, it is tsahal, that is , tsahal, well, in russian, it’s already kto kak, the most correct formula - this is the army of the defense of israel, long, but the most correct, okay, that's great, then we will talk about it with you. to what extent - the israel defense forces understands and knows how to deal with the so-called gaza metro. because everyone says that it is above the ground, but this is secondary, all the main forces

are concentrated under the ground, under the gas sector, and it is not clear to me, not a military person, but what to do with it, if it is down there, they naturally strengthened it as - for years, we cemented, and now with this, gas, gases are prohibited, how to deal with them, that is? i'm not, i'm not asking how exactly, but i am i ask if there are any developments, let's say this, look, in fact, tunnels are one of the biggest dangers, and this is a huge infrastructure, that is , hamas representatives themselves say that there are about 500 km of tunnels under the gaza sector, the gaza sector itself , by itself, there are 300, 380 km, that is, it is a huge, huge infrastructure , they hide warehouses there, they move through the gas sector through these tunnels, that is , i can tell you that one of these

tunnels in 2014 year that discovered which were able to extend almost to israeli cities, i visited it, if you can call it that, then it is like a well-concreted tunnel, that is, there were even, yes, even special tracks to transport heavy objects, food, electricity , that is, everything that is needed in order to feel comfortable there, at the same time there are tunnels that are much larger, that are even suitable for cars to drive through there, and that is, they are not only built tunnels for the growth of a person, even tunnels that are built for cars, of course, we understand how big a threat tunnels are, and our engineering troops already today, that is , tunnels that detect entrances there. tunnels and so on, as if they were checked and blown up in order to relieve some kind of load, to

remove at least part of this infrastructure, it is clear that we will not be able to inspect everything now, that is, it is done gradually, and so that, well, yes , our forces are moving forward smoothly, but they are being used the data is revealed, they are found in the tunnel practically, well, along the entire perimeter, that is, i can say that today, well, last... we found the entrance to the tunnel near the hospital, yes, that is, we clearly understand that the hospital is built, ah on the tunnel, on the infrastructure, yes, that is, near the hospitals, we find launchers, launcher shafts from which rockets are launched across israel, and today we were able to release a video, that is, there are launchers, you can see well-embedded launchers, rocket launchers , right near the children's pool, that is... near the schools,

weapons warehouses in mosques, that is, a whole citizen's second, that's how much, that's what you said, the engineering troops will destroy these tunnels as much as possible so that they are not restored, well, i imagine the picture , the israeli army is winning, hamas is running, everything is in order, engineers they climbed inside, blew it up, 5 years later they start building tunnels again from the egyptian territory, and after 10 years it is repeated again on october 7, because through the tunnels, of course, again weapons, again all this is imported, and so on, and so on and so on so further, you are very very heavy described the scenario, of course, because what happened on october 7 was a catastrophe that the world had probably not seen since

the holocaust, that is one of the... in order to destroy the infrastructure, including the tunnels, precisely so that such tragedies do not happen again, in order to stop rocket fire in order to stop attempts by terrorists to break into our territory, that is , of course, nobody, that is we are very strong we don't want and we do everything so that all demands - in general, somehow get approved , we prevent them, that is, we liquidate groups of terrorists, commanders, commanders, that is, those of the level of commanders, that is, in order to destroy as much as possible, this entire structure, tunnels, again, that is, it is a very philosophical rhetorical question, what will happen next, yes, that is, it depends very much on how the operation will go, and on what goals we will achieve, that is, on what we, at what stage and what will happen next, that is a question... to which i cannot answer at the moment, because we are focused on what is happening now, as it were, on the actions of today, on what the forces

are advancing, there are command... points, in in the command posts there are certain intelligences that help us move forward, eh, and of course, as if we now have two main goals that worry us the most, this will destroy the entire infrastructure, destroy hamas as an organization, and return eh home to everyone of hostages who are now in captivity, today 241 people, which is already a month, and today is the thirtieth day, since the beginning of the war, already a month... 241 people are in captivity of hamas and we are talking about small children, yes, that is, there are children, who are six months, 9 months, 3 years old, there are teenagers, there are 10 years old, er, old people, young people, this is how it would be, that is , one of our main goals, and this is probably one of the main prayers, which here is today in every to the israeli house, this is for the safe

return of the hostages from captivity, see i'm not a military expert, but i see that somehow, there is talk of encirclement, not only of gas, like, sectors, but like cities, i understand correctly that this is the first step, it will be surrounded, and then gradually squeezed, tell me your comment, yes, the idea is not to squeeze the gas sector. yes, that is, a city in the sector, the gas sector, it has several cities, several districts , the gas city is a part, a part of the gas sector, yes, that is, it is located in the northern part of the sector, and the northern part of the sector is exactly where today, all the work of the israeli army is concentrated, and we do not have a goal to surround david, we have a goal to strike at the infrastructure, and if you paid attention, from the first day

of the war, we called in absolutely... different ways called on the residents of the northern part of the gas sector to go to the south, yes, that is, in the south they can be more peaceful, because today our main strikes, the main attacks, are in the northern part, the main infrastructure of terrorists is also concentrated in the northern part , she of course, there is everywhere throughout the gas sector, but now our, as it were, our main, our main strike on the northern part of the gas sector, the residents have gone to the south. i can tell you that yesterday we also already, when our infantry forces were what we call the gaza sector, surround the city of gaza, yes, we created a special corridor along which the citizens who still remained - in their homes so that they can leave the city so that we can continue our

work, when we opened this corridor, first of all, hamas began to launch anti-tank missiles and fire at this territory, that is, they began to prevent the citizens from leaving, our, our only goal is to strike at the terrorists in hamas, we have no goal, and in no way are they suppressing or they will surround citizens with a sector, we absolutely, from the first day, urge them to leave the territory and go to a better, more peaceful one, that is, you even know that there are some residents whom egypt allowed to leave the territory of the gaza strip, absolutely not. .. anna, look, yes, well, this is the gas sector, there is still hezbollah in the north of israel, eh, well, the question is, to what extent, that is, do i understand correctly that the strategy or tactics, the strategy of the government and the military cabinet,

is, as it were, the protection of the north and pressure to the south, that is, we press on the gas, to the north, we just pay attention... we have troops, we defend , we shoot down missiles , etc. day in a state of heightened combat readiness on all borders, that is, we still have idesaria, where there is also unrest, there is a border with syria, there is a border with lebanon, and there were also certain air threats that we noticed in the red sea area, this is the south, yes, the south of israel , there where the southern... resort town of eilad, which we also intercepted, today, we see that hizbullah is taking a certain part, it basically consists in the fact that there are several attempts to penetrate into the territory of israel, to cross the border into mostly shelling of ours and our soldiers, yes, because in the main it is shelling of civilians, it is shelling of cities, but simply most of the cities in