[000:00:00;00] here, by the way, i can completely agree with you, because when you commented, you said that all the articles, sorry shuster and zaluzhny, in principle there is nothing new, so that we, we already knew about it, yes, just , that it was formed, let's say, by zaluzhny, it was formed in a more detailed and form, in the form of such a plan, but in principle, we were well aware of these problems and everyone who follows the situation at the front, they are very aware of it. ... they know, yes, i said so, that we simply, here the problem is simply in the discussion around communication, so that zaluzhny formulated a pragmatic formulated a pragmatic plan, how should it be, how should we move on, and ihor zhovko and others, they simply said, as diplomats, and ihor zhovko is a career diplomat,

whom i also treat with respect. and as a diplomat, he said that it should not have been transferred to the public plane , that is, i translated it, let's say, into a difference in interpretation, it was necessary to do it publicly or not publicly, or it was better not to do it publicly, but at the same time i will say , did not question the realism of the assessments of the hard worker, that came out, by the way, i asked to agree on a quote with me, they said, we don't do this, but...' don't do it and they yes, but, but they agreed, yes, and they agreed with me and gave a quote, that what i saw was absolutely, absolutely everything correct, there is what i said about the tin and what i said about the gall, then in the editing process, you know, editors sometimes edit something, but they removed the first part, and only the the second part, yes, and as a result mine, well, nothing

fatal happened, but as a result it turned out that i more supported the side, the side of the president's office, well, i will survive it, but this is incidental to the fact that when we often like to refer to foreign publications, sources said there, wall street journal, washington post, new york times, financial times and so on, there are comments there. there they believe and so on, well, all this should be related to this, divided into, well, i don't know, not by two , maybe, but by one and a half there or, because something changes there, something has some inaccuracies, these are, after all , subjective opinions, subjective thoughts experts, subjective opinions of sources, then comes the subjective editing of this journalist, then the editing of his editors and so on,

so again... i think we should not idealize here and present it as, you know, the truth in the last instance, there the washington post said about the situation in ukraine, or the new york times, although the level of journalism is really, really high, but there are also some inaccuracies, and subjectivity always remains in all assessments, especially in such complex processes, well, as far as i understand, it praises us, because we are like that the publications read... the people who make the decisions, one way or another, it's true, it's true, yes, of course, but again, well, look, those who, these publications, they, you know, they create this social background , and it's very important, this is the public background, and because in democracies you can't ignore, yes, the public background, but the people who

make the decisions, yes, they are much more, that is, when we're talking about the officials of the state department or the pentagon , or there are brothers above, then of course they have a larger amount of information than what they are talking about even respectable publications write, thank you, thank you, mr. oleksiy, oleksiy haran, professor of political science at the kyivogyl academy, scientific director of the kuchaev democratic initiatives foundation, we will now talk about another important region, we have already talked about the middle east in sufficient detail, but there is another region, which is not directly related to the middle east and the east, this is iran, maziar mman, an independent iranian columnist, the author of the telegram channel revolution in iran, welcome mr. mazir, good evening, so let's start with this, minister of iran's defense threatens the united states of america, says that if israel's operation in the gas sector continues, then america will admit

the blow from iran, how serious it is. statement at all? in fact, the situation in the middle east is very tense, this is a fact, we know about it. but what concerns the direct participation of iran in what is happening in gaza, today , such an option is unlikely, because iran is directly involved in the conflict, well, it can be said that it is almost impossible, but because iran, but iran maybe put israel, through its proxy organizations in the region, such as hizballah, khachtashabi, and other organizations in iraq and syria, that is, through

these proxy organizations, iran can influence the war in gaza, but yesterday or the day before yesterday, we had a speech by hasan nasrov . the leader of lebanon, where he spoke about the fact that the attack of hamas on israel is the work of the palestinians, only theirs, and we, of course, sympathize with the palestinians, but we are not going to open a new front, that is, in general terms, his speech and we know that the americans have two ... noses in the region, these are gerald ford and eisenhower, and their task is precisely to withstand iran and its proxy power that is in the region,

so that they do not go to war against israel, on today, this balance exists and it has not been increased, despite the fact that military bases, american military bases in iraq and syria have been fired upon 27 times recently, but there are still serious threats for today the moment does not exist, but there is a final statement, including the minister's statement the defense today is about the fact that everything will start now, we will win everything, but for now, these are all general words, this is for today, that is, the situation is developing very dynamically, we need to watch, maybe something will change tomorrow,

but today i do not see such a threat, by the way, i have seen comments from experts both in israel and in the arab world who say that iran will easily sacrifice hamas because it has always treated it as expendable, especially since it is a sunni organization supported by shia theocracy, that's all. strange thing, as you know mr. mazir, and hezbollah is a shiite organization, quite strong, which controls , i said, not even half of lebanon, but two-thirds of lebanon, and it is so easy to sacrifice it, iran will not agree, just throw it in war as cannon fodder, as they have now abandoned the hamas, well, in fact, the islamic republic of iran uses its powers to achieve its goals, and if they begin to interfere with the islamic republic in their villages, of course, they merge them, what happened to

hamas, indeed, the islamic republic, for all the years of its existence after 79 it was constantly financed by hamas, the leaders of hamas , ismai and khaled mashal, talked about it, that iran, the islamic republic, their... the israelis, the israeli intelligence, the mass media, everyone knew about it, and the americans they knew about it, and the islamic republic, every hour, sent a third of the budget of hamas to hamas, directly, in kaza , and this without... these tunnels, under the gas that came out

there, in the desert of sina, that is, that is, that support was, for today, very similar to that hamas has become a subject of bargaining. for the islamic republic , today it seems very likely that the islamic republic merges them and trades with hamas, perhaps they receive some other dividends elsewhere from the west. and he will say, were you not surprised by this tripartite meeting of iran, russia and hamas in moscow? we have never seen the same before, why is it all happening, this is the axis. yes, a delegation was sent by hamas to russia, v at the same time... the deputy minister of foreign affairs of iran with a delegation

also arrived in moscow, they met there, i think this news was there a week or two weeks ago, i don’t remember exactly, ah, there was such a meeting, they discussed, i i assume that the issues of release were discussed there, and hostages, we know that the russians also have hostages, hamas. and the experts also suspect that other issues were discussed there - issues related to the ceasefire, and the peace plan and the prospects of the war in general , but it is absolutely no secret that russia, iran, and china get their dividends from this war, and by blackmailing

the west, and it is obvious that they get their dividends from this, in that they put pressure on the west, and push and openly, openly push the arab world , they act against the west and use it for their own purposes to displace the west. what do you think, in principle, and what is the internal situation in iran in this situation, did the authorities manage to bring the domestic political situation under control? as of today, we do not see street protests of the regime

it was possible, it was really possible to control the street, but there is a lot of tension in society, and in all spheres , we also see it, that is, we will see that it is limited, and the rights of actors, artists, scientists, athletes, and it really exists in all layers population, that's the tension. it is very , very strong, and this tension can be realized in a new wave of protests, it is very natural, when in society - there is such a tension in all spheres, it is very natural that it can - will appear in a new wave of protests. when it will happen, no one knows, but today, we do not

see street protests. speaking of how the situation will develop, after this war in the middle east, what do you think iran will do, will it continue to support its proxy armies, will it try to find some common ground with the arab world, or will it remain an ally in principle, what can be the intentions of russia? if in general, look at geopolitics... it all depends on how the war ends, we know that's it every day, the situation changes and every day we receive new information , it all depends on how this war will end and how this war will end for iran too, that is, will iran enter this war, will enter through its own forces, or will not join this... war, but if

you look at the situation today as a whole, it seems very likely that countries - some arab countries, like saudi arabia and the united emirates, they don't really want to - is moving away from the previous , pro-western vector of our vector, we we know that this is permissible... the whole arab world came out with protests in support of the palestinians , but we did not see protests in saudi arabia and the emirates, yes, that is, we know that in these countries... no, it's not democracy, it's also autocracy , but they control their internal processes very well, and if they do not want there to be no protests, then there are no protests, that is why i believe that there was no protest in support of the palestinians in saudi arabia

, and there was no protest in the emirates either, but for saudi arabia is very important preserve bridges with the west within the framework of the abrahamic treaty, which... they discussed with israel, and there were very interesting, very good infrastructure projects for saudi arabia that provided transit - through saudi arabia, transit of india and china through saudi arabia to israel , and the saudis really don't want to lose - these projects that were discussed and which were very close to an agreement, right before - before the attack by hamas, they want to preserve these bridges, and this is very clearly visible, namely therefore iran, iran, which does not want the saudis

to get closer to israel, and pushed the houthis last week, the akhusites are a yemeni terrorist organization that supports, supports, too. islamic republic of iran, they pushed them to new attacks on saudi arabia, where four saudi servicemen were killed there, and that is, after all , this vector that existed before the attack by hamas exists, some arab countries continue this vector - in this vector to move, but again, we need to watch what will happen next, because the situation can change at any moment , and even such autocratic regimes as in saudi arabia cannot completely ignore the opinion of the citizens, yes, that is, the muslims who believe there,

who live there, who we know that they support palestine, and at the same time we know that there was a process of normalization of relations between iran and saudi arabia, which went against the normalization of relations between saudi arabia and israel, and here these two processes cannot exist at the same time, yes, that is, the relationship between iran and the saudis, and the saudis with israel, that is, only one of them can survive, but today it very much seems that the saudis are all the same. the saudis, i mean exactly the power of prince bensalman in saudi arabia, they are more inclined to lean, they still maintain ties with the west and israel, that is why the rapprochement with iran by the saudis is a big question, but again, it is necessary

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decision and gave the appropriate mandate to the office of the president to prepare the presidential election on march 31 of next year, this one seems to be constitutional deadline, the last sunday of march, they are going to explain the elections to the society, it seems that this is the demand of the western partners that if these elections are not held, then zelensky is losing legitimacy, and especially against the background of the fact that putin will hold elections in march, which means that we will not hold elections, but we will not, well , they are democracy-type, i want to say right away that no western partners demand any elections, there are no public or non-public ones demands, it is absolutely not related to western partners, it is related to the political tasks that the office of the president sets before itself, we are talking about... only the presidential elections, because first of all, parliamentary elections are, in principle, directly prohibited by the constitution , but presidential ones are not,

presidential bans by martial law , well, which law can be changed from the constitution is much more difficult. well, in addition, it all facilitates this construction, because parliamentary elections are much more difficult to organize, a larger, much larger number of people are involved, the presidential elections are simpler in this sense, that is, zelensky, who promised us victory for a long time, and then the elections, now , apparently decided to concentrate not on victory in the war, but on victory in the elections, but sociology clearly shows that the vast majority of ukrainian citizens just believe that the elections should be held after the victory, no one has any desire to re-elect the president now, and this is absolutely logical, because in the current conditions, if we call elections, we need two different ones, you know how they say in odesa, by the way, which was just bombed, and there is a funnel there in the center of the city, they write to me from odesa, my family

is there now, and that’s how they say it in odesa, there are two big differences, you know, there are elections, and there is an electoral procedure , if we are talking about the electoral procedure, that someone came and put a cross on some piece of paper, well then we can say that there are elections in russia, and there are elections in belarus, someone comes and puts some crosses, and if we talk about elections as a process, with democratic, free media, free campaigning, debate, well, how to conduct it, well, we all remember the tragedy in the village of groza, kharkiv region, one rocket, there is no village, how to conduct elections in such safe conditions, how to conduct, well and there are a lot of legal issues, how to leave martial law, but what about freedoms, that is, the very idea of ​​martial law in what way, freedoms are limited, and elections are precisely the moment of complete freedom, when society chooses the government, and not the other way around, so i don't understand how to conduct it legally, i don't understand how

to carry it out technically, i don't understand what it's for, well, because we have the government. which, i repeat, no one has any questions about its legitimacy , the ukrainians do not want it, well, but the president's office is simply worried that he will, zelskyi will lose his popularity, so it is necessary rather, in addition, i will remind you of the recent statement of zelenskyi, who was reminded of his promise that he will only serve one term, and he then said, well, if there is a war, i cannot abandon ship, that is, if it is already over, that's another matter, as for me, when it sounded, it became obvious. what course did he choose, well, yesterday's statements of koleba, by the way, it is also very strange, why koleba was chosen as the minister of foreign affairs, as the herald of the first, that is, of this topic, well, precisely because, as will be explained further, it is not us we want, this is what the partners want to mean, that's why we promote this topic, it's a very bad idea , the country should unite, the election is in any case a moment of disunity, well, the right disunity, because everyone makes their own choice,

we need unification, well and here the question is how can ... the presidential election campaign, because people have to come out and criticize every candidate for the position of head of state, including the president of the country, during martial law, absolutely , if he is running for office, well, it is possible , you know, if it was such a gesture, i would not run for office, this one, well, it’s still some kind of, well, but it’s strange, but it’s strange, he already said that he won’t abandon the ship , well, in general, well, what’s the point of these elections, well, here’s someone, why, but the whole is this story with oleksiy aristovych also related to yours? opinion from the election campaign, yes, i think that aristovitch knows about this decision, and he started the presidential campaign, it looks strange, by the way, when he does all this abroad and writes that i cannot come, i am an oppositionist, when i read, it's so funny, i've been an oppositionist for five years zelskyi, and unlike aristovych , i was not his adviser, somehow i live in ukraine, i work, i defend my views, and arristovych