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ukraine, is it really a split, as the new york times writes, or just different approaches to information? well, by the way, this is a very - well, disturbing thing, because i really didn't like it, that is, i really didn't like the speech of yermak's deputy ihor zhovkva criticizing zaluzhny. i'm sorry, who are you anyway, so that's the first question. ah, secondly, it is obvious , well, there is no criticism of zelensky in zaluzhnyi’s article, it is an obvious thing, and you can read it from right to left, from left to right, as you like, there is no criticism, but from the side of the president’s office there was already criticism, and after this, well, at the same time, the dismissal of kharenko in a bad way, we still do not know the details, but when the commander of the special operations forces says that he learned about the dismissal from the media, well , in fact, it is a disaster, well, it should not be like that in principles, that is, what is it in general, and that's why...' it worried me a lot
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, and zaluzhny's article, well, it's sober, it 's real, you understand, i'll tell you, i have a higher medical education first, so if you want something treat, but the first thing you have to do is diagnose, you can't treat something or what you want to treat, you want it to be a cold, but it's some serious illness, you can't ignore the reality, and the hard worker just said what the reality is and that it's serious. the situation is neither bigger nor smaller. today's statement is another interview with the zelenskyi nbc, where he says: no, we will now move quickly somewhere. well, i, i don’t have the amount of information that zelennyi has, obviously, he has divorce data, other things, well, but we already heard about soon, two or three weeks, we heard, soon coffee on yalta embankment, we have heard a lot, and this is not, and why say again what...
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it is quite possible that there will not be, uh, frankly, it is very disturbing, and and and again, the last thing we need today, it is a split in the military-political leadership. and in principle, you can explain why we are constantly discussing the option that ukraine is inclined to negotiate with russia, at a time when we do not see any signals from russia itself that they are ready for any real negotiations, moreover, i think russia is active gave such signals even before, in the spring, they were very afraid of counteroffensive there, judging by everything after kharkov, after everything, and they really gave such signals. lately, i haven't particularly seen such signals either, and well, it's difficult, you know , to comment on something here, and i can only say one thing that what we really need today, well, we really need unity, we need an understanding of our strategy , military, economic, foreign policy. well, life
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requires us to review many things, this life demands and we have now this moment to unite. by the way, i want to mention one thing, zelski was often compared abroad, especially, especially in great britain, to churchill, and actually there, well, i have my doubts about this comparison, but when i heard it, i liked it, because it was positive for ukraine, it played for ukraine, but the problem is that what is real. did churchill, in may of 1940, the first thing he did when he became prime minister, he invited the leader of the opposition attlee to become his deputy, united everyone. what did netanyahu do in israel after the terrible attack on october 7, despite the fact that the level of political hatred in israel is insane, that is, the enormous hatred between the government and the opposition, but the first thing he said was: i invite the opposition to the government, because we must all unite, despite the fact that we we understand with you that the hamas attack is still, well, most likely not exceptional.
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the threat to israel, well, at least for the moment , russia's attack on ukraine is an existential threat to ukraine, but who does our churchill unite, where is the union, by the way, i had a conversation with a british colleague, there a journalist of one of the leading publications, who also began to tell me that the legitimacy of the government will be lost, and i told him, i apologize, but why was the legitimacy of your government not lost during the second world war, and he said, because we had the government of national unity, in principle, che chely makes a minister of the government of national unity, it must also be understood that, if there was no government of national unity, there would be none, and in white britain there were no elections between 1935 and 1945, in such conditions, well, it arises the question of how ready we are for some such process of unification of institutions, because as far as i remember the talks about the fact that we will create a government of national unity, there will be such national unity in general, they were heard in february, march of last year, from the president,
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when he...' gathered the leaders of the faction, he says that we should all unite, and we saw that, and then again there was a political disunity and attempts to marginalize the opposition, i don't understand why, because the legitimacy of the government, the term of office , which is running out, really consists in the fact that it creates a government of national unity, otherwise it is not legitimate, because we do not know how much the voters trust it, that's right, and the second, well, let's be frank, the personnel potential of the government is weak, well, our prime minister - the minister, where is mr. shmygalal at all, well, the prime minister of our country, who knows what he is doing, well, he is probably already some kind of mentioned figure, that is, it is not known to anyone, we do not have... there is no ambassador in london , we have not had ambassadors in china and india for several years, so what is the problem, to invite today people, let them be from other camps, we have a bunch of retired ministers of foreign affairs who worked effectively, why not invite them, why are they there commenting on something, put them in power, appoint people who have experience from
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the opposition, what is the difference, give eat work, do not solve tasks and let everyone work for the result, but instead we see separation, marginalization. full push, and this, i understand that there, given zelsky's previous experience, the star of the scene should be one, well, but that's a little different moment, and as for what happened in march february, i'll be honest, last year, i don't want to scare anyone now or anything, but according to my inner feelings, i'm almost as worried today as i was at the end of february, the beginning of march last year, the situation is really difficult , it is not as acutely complicated as it was then, but from the set, today is exactly one year , and on november 5 next year in the usa there will be presidential elections, exactly one year, it is very little, we have already had 20 months, these 12 the months will fly like this, what will happen there
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it's obvious, well, it's almost obvious that trump will be the candidate, everyone who, well, from the republicans, everyone who says that they know the result of the election, well, that he won't win there, i don't know who knows, i think it's no one knows, well, this is known, the peculiarities of voting in the united states are such that even if you know the ratings, you do not know, nothing tells you at all, and what about us, well, what is our strategy, if trump wins, and we hear his statements, and without the united states, we have a lot of such questions, economic aid, the situation on front, the situation in the middle east, which does not play for ukraine at all, and i can continue to list, the situation is very difficult, and i think that this is precisely the moment... and when only he can do it to president zelsky, there is it's time to return to the idea of ​​a government, just not in words, but in practice to create such a government, and that's all, well, i, i have a different path, well, at this stage, i just don't see it, because, unfortunately, the personnel potential of the government is, unfortunately, insufficient
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in order to respond to all the challenges that exist today, by the way, when you speak about this year before the presidential elections in the united states, this once again speaks of the need for parliamentary diplomacy. which we are also now in such, i would say anabiosis, well, about the state of parliamentary diplomacy, i can say with my own example, a short one, at the end of september 29, it seems, in september i was supposed to be at the conference of speakers of the council of europe once every two years, during it, there is also a presidential committee of paré, and this is the president of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, five heads of political groups, and my political group, the president could not nominated me, that is, a unique opportunity could have been two representatives . i submitted an application 30 hours before departure, they informed me that they had changed
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their mind, god be with me, but a group of conservatives, the third largest group in the pair, took offense and wrote a letter, well, because no one had already been represented, in a day they could not i mean, they just weren't represented, they didn't like it all very much, the british press wrote about it, they wrote an open letter to stefanchuk about it, and the question is simple, why is it all, well, on equal ground, well, that is, well , for what, for what, what did you achieve, you humiliate me, well, i don't, i don't understand in principle that in what way i myself, well, but in reality it happened humiliation of the country, well, for me. this is disturbing, because what you are telling is such a soviet rudiment, yes, when an instance appears that decides who goes where, it can abuse powers, that was the case in the soviet union, yes, that is what is happening in our country now , but we are just trying to turn our country into a non-soviet union, just like that, just like
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that, unfortunately, these gray vestiges and sometimes very painful, a tragedy 128 of the brigade with a scoop shock near the front line and waiting for rewards, and instead a russian missile, this is also, well, this is a soviet rudiment, this is some kind of scoop, this one, these are the things that we have to get rid of, because they are of no use to us what they don't add, they... they they can even lead to such tragedies, so this is a huge challenge. how do you think the situation with public attitudes will develop? to what extent do you think ukrainian society is capable of any real participation in what is happening in the country? that's a very good question, because it's a very fine line, it's martial law, and on the one hand, it's obvious that the country shouldn't be shaken, on the other hand, it's obvious that when people see, well, well, i 'll give you an example, yesterday, sir , or yes yesterday
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that's right, yesterday was a meeting of the parliament, and before that morning the meeting of the budget committee, which voted on the draft state budget for 2024, the parliament has not considered it yet, but the next step is the parliament, and we did not in the first reading of the consideration of the state budget delete money for tv series and cinema, and the government returned them, uah 600 million, so now only this is called: the program for the development of ukrainian cinema and the documentation of war crimes, what is the connection, i mean, it 's difficult, because documentation is a matter of the prosecutor's office, in general, well, it's something else history, i put this amendment in order to remove it at the meeting, four votes for 20 abstained, 600 million hryvnias remained, and when the society sees, well, this is one of the examples, drums, tv shows, there are cobblestones, stadiums and everything else, that's how the society to influence it, except for how people come out. in odesa, in lviv, in other cities, demanding, well, in kyiv, that they be heard, and if you don't come out, the authorities don't
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hear, and if you go out, then you're rocking the boat, and there are also security things and so on , and so on, well, a difficult situation, but society, i think that at least it should be social networks, public pressure, well, because the government simply ignores, unfortunately, tools, petitions, for example, there i introduced a bill to give the right to demobilization after 18 months of service, we submitted a petition , the petition got votes, i didn't even get a response, and no one wants to even talk about it, well, this is also a huge problem, there are a million people who are protecting us today, and no one even wants to talk about it, and when will they be replaced , when it's a term at all, well people cannot serve indefinitely, maybe not 18 months, 24, well, you have to give some, well, there must be light at the end of the tunnel, well, it cannot be that there is an entrance, there is no exit, there must be respect for these people, and that's it
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to any big question, a few weeks ago, looking at all this, i have a lot of questions, not all of them i can even voice on the air, i decided that i have no other way, in the parliament no one listens, no one speaks hear, the government does not come to us, and there is no point in contacting it, mr. yermakom, i do not know with him personally, so, well, in order to inform zelsky, i have the right by law to meet with any head of state, as a people's...' i made a request to the president's office: please let me, i want to meet with the president in first time in more than four years, i asked for this opportunity, i never once asked, give me an hour of time, i want, i have questions, i want to convey information, i want to ask these questions, to explain, complete silence, well in general they don't even answer me, and when this feedback mechanism is lost, that means you can't to get through, no way, no way, no way, well, they create the conditions. to some problem, to some social explosion , god forbid, i don't want it, because we don't need it
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today, but some kind of feedback must work, well, the authorities must hear the voice from below and the problems that exist, well, when you talk about these protests about cobblestones and the like, the same situation is ambiguous, because on the one hand people are protesting, and on the other hand , local co-government is disappearing little by little. i see how the authorities use these protests to justify them, but in fact, i gave the example of movies and tv series for a reason, and the example of sending funds, sorry, to a fool, was shown by the central government, it was the central government that started spending them, i don’t know what, unfortunately, some of the local councils joined this, so instead of a very simple solution, i inform everyone that this is how it is solved, which means that all state money goes through the state treasury, the state treasury. subordinate to the government, put a filter that the funds should go to
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military units, put this and that's it, at this point, you don't need to take anything from anyone, you don't need to take anything from anyone, put a limit, no, instead they say, yes, yes, you see, they are not bad, they spend everything wrong , we will now take it to kyiv , but we will spend it correctly, well, how correctly, we all saw, eggs and many other things, that's the same, well, that's already a question, well, when it's used, it's manipulation. so the question arises, and indeed the anti-corruption mechanisms, how they can work in such a situation situations when they actually destroy our reputation, which means that they give arguments to those who do not want to ... in a way to provide victory in the west, so today's question, well, an article in the magazine time, in which there is a phrase that steals so, as if there will be no tomorrow, this is a disaster for ukraine, not only for zelenskyi and his team, which is the team we are talking about in this article, but it is a disaster for ukraine, because, well, we understand with you, we, the electorate of oklahoma or
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arizona, and we read the time, there they say that there is stealing so that there is no tomorrow, but for that's what trump says, well, in principle, it's a problem, because i'm there as a taxpayer of oklahoma, well, i'm probably thinking about whether it's worth giving it or not, it's a huge problem for us, we have to explain it, prove it, but there are opposite signals, this, well, this is a very serious challenge, a task, today the problem of cleaning, what is said in the same time article about the dismissal of reznikov. where are they talking, and what have they been waiting for for more than six months, i.e. today the authorities must react instantly to any corruption scandal, fix it instantly, for in order to keep the trust of ukrainian society once, and in order not to lose the trust and support of our external partners twice, because if we lose it, well, i don’t even want to say, that is, well, we are simply not we
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, we are not able to lead independently this war, everything is very simple, in 20 months we have not become independent either in terms of weapons, which was at least partially possible, or in terms of finances, which in principle was impossible, and we are completely dependent, by the way, in terms of weapons, what do you think , we can still make some effort to weapons were still produced here, so right now we will have our own weapons, we will attack russia with missiles ourselves, i think we can and we have our missiles, well, the same neptunes that showed some incredible efficiency there and other types of our weapons, that is, whether it is possible. we can, but do we have it on an industrial scale, the key word here is industrial scale, that is, some miracle rocket will not do anything, well, if it was a miracle rocket that would find putin personally, well, maybe, and so on you just need to on an industrial scale, and in this question, where is the industrial scale, where is our military industry, which shows the result on an industrial
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scale, unfortunately, we do not see it yet, of course, it may be a military secret, and maybe we are not. .. we have to see it, but we, we don’t, we can see it in the form of videos from the shops, but we have to see it in the form of summaries, which it inflicted damage on the enemy, sometimes we see something, there are drones around moscow, and and but it cannot be said that this is a mass story, so it is obvious that we need to make efforts here, very significantly, do you think, how much in principle, if we return. that the issue of elections, it will be possible to hold them after the war, it also requires some new decisions, we cannot hold elections according to the legislation that currently exists, yes, of course, we have to change it, that is also obvious, i think that the elections should be held like this, well, my personal opinion, six months after the end of hostilities, because it will take a period when we restore democracy in the state, let's
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be honest, it's very cut down in us, and it must be restored, after that, hold elections, that is, create conditions for them, then conduct the election process, i think it is at least six months, it is unrealistic to do it faster, it is impossible, so it will not be some kind of colossal a problem in conditions when there are no security challenges, but it is necessary that they do not exist, but they, or they should be, well, very, very much reduced to some unconscious level, because today they are off the charts, well, by the way, here we are with you talked about odessa, it means that during election wars. we go to the polling station, and a rocket can get there, as in just what, it hit the center of odessa, well, exactly , this is exactly what we are talking about, and this, and this is what we are talking about odessa, well, there, unfortunately, to russian weapons in crimea are not far from us, but there are territories of zaporozhye, kherson, which are just kharkiv, well there, there is no distance there, there
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will be no air alert, well, what, what is 30 km from kharkiv to, to the border with russia, well, what , that is, this, this, this is nothing at all, by the way, returning to the topic of elections and to the topic of zaluzhny, i think that one for the reasons that we see now that the president's office is considering zaluzhny as a potential competitor of zelensky in the elections, and this is also one of the reasons why, now , why they want to hold the elections sooner, because, well, zaluzhny is now busy with his head, how should he leave his post, that is, you can say potentially, i don't know if he wants to... take part in the elections or not, and it is absolutely unknown to me, but to move a potential competitor, and secondly, well, this is a certain criticism that they may already be looking at him more than just as the main thing. commander, and what about a potential opponent in the elections, and that is what elections are, that is, in elections, we all instantly become opponents of each other, this, that candidate, and that one in this
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candidate's team, and that's how it started, that's the problem, well for elections during the war, well, if there is no single marathon on the air, there are no problems , well, it used to be like that, the single marathon is rapidly losing its popularity, social networks still have yes, of course, the only marathon still exists a tool that the authorities actively use to show that the political field as they like it, but his power is not so strong anymore, he really tired many people and it is obvious to many that he is artificial, and therefore, well, here i think that they also understand that the time of a single of the marathon, if it hasn't surfaced yet, then it will surface, well, by the way, precisely the rejection of the only marathon, that's what they really talk about all the time on the ally, but this is what they really talk about and say that freedom of speech is what what should be and what, well, for a democratic society is the alpha and
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omega, if we end our conversation, as you you can imagine, here is the nearest time of the development of the situation, we will see some kind of changes, in the military, political, are we really in this kind of expectation of events, you said that you are such. optimistic scenario, the government will understand all these challenges that exist, because i have a feeling that there is a certain lack of understanding of even these challenges, at least some of them, so the optimistic scenario will understand the challenges, a government of national unity is created, talks about some elections, we really stop doing stupid things in the country, we concentrate on the war, we solve the issue of rotation, demobilization, everything else in order to support our human potential and and then, i believe, with the help of our soy , we restore our international positions, and with the help of our allies, both in our country and today
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there is every chance for a successful, i would say so, end of hostilities for ukraine, maybe not as super successful as we were told for a long time, but really successful, and ukraine will then become a member of nato and the eu, and that's it, we've jumped out of it concentration camp and a normal future ahead of us, this optimistic scenario, i don’t want to talk about the pessimistic one, so we won’t talk about the pessimistic one, because the pessimistic one is always an alternative to the optimistic one, and we would like to thank our guest, people’s deputy of ukraine oleksiy honcharenko, who was on our air today, thank you, mr. oleksiy, who came to us and shared their predictions, thank you, dear viewers, who were with the espresso tv channel, please stay. with us, with our information broadcast, and until the next meetings, good luck with the victory to you,
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the main and interesting thing about the programs. verdict with serhii rudenko, from monday to friday at 20:00, welcome to the espresso channel: the longer the war lasts, the harder it will be to continue, so we need to look for technological solutions and use them for a quick victory, because otherwise, sooner or later we will find that we simply do not have enough people to fight, this is one of the quotes of the head of the armed forces valery zaluzhny in an interview with a british publication, which is currently attracting the attention of the military, politicians, and experts, and here in these materials , zaluzhin is convinced that the war with russia in its current form, namely the positional chip state, cannot be won with weapons of the past
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generation and outdated. methods. so now along with the interview, the economist also published a large essay by the ukrainian general entitled modern positional war and how to win in it. and in this, directions are determined, how to get out of this trap of a protracted war of attrition. according to zaluzhnyi, ukraine needs air superiority. these are piloted aircraft as well as unmanned complexes for various purposes, this is the improvement of radio electronic warfare, this is enhanced counter-battery capabilities, the fourth is new demining technologies and the fifth priority - it is an opportunity to mobilize and qualitatively train more people, about how it will be implemented and in what period of time, and what other additional questions are raised by this vision of valery zaluzhny, given the current state and likely dynamics
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