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studio zahid program, we will analyze the most important events of this week, in particular , we will talk about the situation in the american congress and in the middle east, it will be extremely interesting. our guests today are roman bezsmertny and mark fegin. our first guest, a prominent ukrainian politician and diplomat, roman bezsmertnyi. glory to ukraine, mr. roman, i congratulate you. geraim, glory, i congratulate you, mr. antin. well, two articles, different in their direction, different in their meaning. and generally different in their weight, and they testify to two different approaches and visions of the situation: the article of commander-in-chief valery zaluzhny in the economist, which very clearly spells out certain things that await us all, and this applies not only to ukraine, but also to our western allies, and on the other hand a rather strange article by simon shuster, not a journalist of the first rank, but the article caused the effect of ... the explosion

of a certain information bomb, you just got into the top ten, using the term different here, in fact, if you look at them with an experienced eye, then they are very far from each other, because this is the depth of research, and scholarship, and assumptions, and conclusions, and what concerns the article of simon schuster, this is a public thing, i would even call it that, artistically public, and with this a whole series of admissions, errors and so on, if in this realm we want get accurate answers, and mr. antina, i recommend everyone to take the materials of tetyana nikolayenko's article, and you will receive exceptional answers, with documents, with names, on all the questions that simon writes.

schuster, because his language is a language designed for a lower average, and a western reader, listener , that is, what is used in everyday life, as materials for persuading a neighbor, an acquaintance, for conversations in the kitchen and so on, and congressmen, mr. roman , perhaps it was aimed at the morally unstable, congressmen or rednecks from the republican trump environment, we understand the big debates going on right now, and here you understand, he threw his spoon, the intellectual level of parliamentarians, whether ukrainian or american, we understand him well, we know him, because, as the classic of ukrainian politics said, the parliament is the face of any nation, it is enough to understand.

that including this article was used to add or subtract arguments, but as for me, a person who has worked in the parliament for 15 years, there is no evidence, materials, there are conclusions, what i can do better on the basis of the materials, i have already said, and in particular your broadcasts, the broadcasts of other colleagues of yours and the materials of tetyana nikolayenko, where the facts, evidence, surnames and so on are laid out. now , ah, the material, er, of general zaluzhnyi, with what it should be compared and why a colossal methodological error is made, when the analysis takes place at the level of shuster zaluzhnyi. i ask everyone who will hear us now, please take the article under the signature.

general zaluzhnyi and general zabrodsky dated september 9, 2022. there are two articles analysis. with a serious and deep analysis in the first case of the results of the war campaign of 200-22 and the plans for the year 23, where everything was explained in great detail, what concerns the current article is the summary of 2023 and the plans for the year 2024, if you compare these articles , then it becomes clear that the conversation about who is more to blame in... the situation, it completely loses its meaning. and i will not explain all this now, because at the level of my emotions in relation to the conversation, now the shuster is useless, this factage, he, he is absolutely, well,

unnecessary from my point of view, because so much deeply, as the material considered... in the article of zabrodsky zaluzhny and now zaluzhny so intelligently, so competently laid out the analysis of the situation and the perspective of its consideration, i will give you only one example: the article of 2022 ended with one point that the best development of the situation is the occupation of ukraine during the campaign of the 23rd year, and the key bridgehead, crimea, for this article was written out as necessary, and when you look at this list of necessary things, you will understand, so who in this situation cut corners, well, a little hint, since march

there's talk of a million rounds of ammunition from the european union a month, huh. because of homa, i can put a lot, in particular, at the end of the article itself, it was printed on the ukrainian forum, there was a photo of atakams, now i move to the current article with the signature of zaluzhnyi, it is exactly right there, there are the results of the campaigns of the 23rd year, there is variability, what can be further, and what can happen if... the current constant remains and what needs to be done so that the situation develops in a positive direction for ukraine, for the whole world, there is only a difference

in the fact that hersh and shuster can write emotions, the essence of which is that how to evaluate it, a world war, a local war, and so on, what will happen to the american voter, the ukrainian voter, general zaluzhny, general zabrodsky, they have no right, because they are not politicians, they provide a clear scientific basis, an assessment of the situation, as military men, as generals, in whose hands are the lives of hundreds of thousands of soldiers, hundreds of thousands and tens of millions of civilians, and therefore the first , as a general summary of this article, the main epicenter for today the day of attention should be on the comparison of the article of the zaluzhnogo of zabrodsk a year ago and the current article, and understanding what may

be in force, and here antina, i do not find words to describe the actions in the congress. of the united states of america, in the information space of ukraine, in the actions of the current ukrainian officials, because for me, this pose, we had dinner, in the conditions when the nation is at war, this, this should not be about us, this is the first and second, if congress requires the report, for 106 billion, means it must be submitted, of which... 2/3 never came to ukraine, these reports are damned including those who received these funds should submit, because i will say once again, of these 106 billion, 2/3

have nothing to do with ukraine, they never came here, but who received roman petrovych and in general, why such a strange discussion is currently going on in the american congress, well, trump is not the only one, here we come to a key story, how do you think the situation with aid will actually develop, so we understand that there is still about a year before the elections in the states, and the situation can sometimes take on three features, so what do we understand commander zulzhny described the situation very clearly, as we need in the conditions of a protracted, long war. and here they tell us to give reports, dear, dear ukrainians, for the money, as you rightly noted, two- thirds of which our budget did not see. the first thing is to build business relations, including with the congress of the united states. and let me relate to this cooperation, because it, these numbers and these reports,

at the end, well, what is called total, you know, when you read the magazine and then at the end of total, it ends with very serious deep personnel changes and the responsibility of those who allowed everything he says about, i say once again, not shuster, but tatyana nikola. because if you read her materials, there are evidences and testimonies of who did what, who bought eggs for 17 hryvnias per piece, who signed contracts under which conditions were not fulfilled, weapons and ammunition were not delivered and they are not going to fulfill them, why did this happen? , that those who are guilty of the implementation and conclusion of these contracts after... the change of the minister of defense are appointed again to conduct the ministry means the same

operations, you understand, when you understand that these materials are in possession of the congress, and these are not shuster's articles, this is a very serious matter, because you remember, earlier the director of the cia came and the president, as you and i have talked more than once, about these nits , who are in the offices and who are grinding at the front. as you can see, for the past six months, he has not even bought a ticket in advance, that is, he is not even going to go, because everything that has been said has already been said, the situation today has actually reached a point when both the president and to the minister defense, it is necessary to clearly build a system of relations with the congress, with the pentagon, where

what we are talking about has an open nature for both sides and is subject to mutual control. i would like to remind you that in march, the pentagon, congress, state energy and mineral resources opened lines, these lines are open for informing contractors, subcontractors to actors on procurement by ukraine and various departments of armed components and so on, and on these lines it is possible to provide inventory, so in kyiv cannot understand that those with whom they tried to negotiate kickbacks are already there a long time ago, the pentagon, state department, and congress were informed about what is being done in the departments where these irreplaceable people sit, because they cannot be replaced in any way, so in fact,

if you were to ask me, what should be done, and the supreme commander-in-chief should boldly and courageously make several personnel decisions and after that sit down with congress, with the state department, with the pentagon, depending on the rank, rank of officials, a conversation about what to do with those... amounts that have already passed, and how to further use resources, once again i want to insist that the united states does not refuse, has not refused and will not refuse assistance to ukraine , especially, i emphasize this to the attention of the republicans, but in order for there to be honor and dignity and an automatic solution, these facts are necessary

, which ukrainian journalists have repeatedly written about, well, even if they were reduced by three times, well, you can’t do that when 40% of the contracts that were entered into, and in the first half of 2022, as of today, are simply at zero execution are located and paid for money, now, mr. antin, i will not touch those contracts, those agreements that were paid for by the ukrainian budget. i'm not talking about the fact that there are still european resources that were used. and i want to return to our... conversation even after march 22nd, when you and i agreed that in the current situation, in the situation that was taking place, the formation of a joint process management center is extremely important, moreover, we you talked about joint command, moreover, joint forces that

could carry out operations, the point is that this emotional frontal attack, where on the one hand they tell us that you are under-delivering or not giving us what we ask for, and on the other hand that you are not using the money that way, it is ridiculous, no, it is not just ridiculous, it is dangerous, it can deepen the emotional crisis and lead to the so-called conflict of misunderstanding, that is, these are two semantic systems, the dynamics of processes. indicates that the world is approaching a global conflict. if the world understands this, then there are actually two points on planet earth today that depend on no only the current situation and the future world order are ukraine and israel. politicians are responsible, and i am sure that whatever

concerts are held during the election campaign in the united states. americans, both among republicans and among democrats, and in principle the majority of american society understand how important support for ukraine is, here it is important to comment on this emotional confrontation, which you also broke down, because i understand how dangerous it is, when they read that you are under-delivering, and on the other hand, you are not yes, using money, you begin to understand that from both sides. it is obvious that there are gathered those who cannot inwardly understand the danger that hangs over the world, so this set of questions, this knot of questions, you know, it reminds me, periodically, my girls used to throw their eyes at me, ah, chains,

chains, small ones, you know, that’s how they tangle them there, toys , up to a dozen of them there, and then they bring them to my father and he tangles them, just so that they are as they are left, i sat down with these chains three or four times, in i didn't have enough patience, i was frustrated because, well, how can you get so confused, and then i found a day, said, no, they need to sit down and untangle them, and calmly, understanding all the responsibility for the situation that is now facing the political leadership of ukraine and the united states of the states of america, to take these tangled chains and calmly untangle them, to each of these questions be answered, for this is not a case to be offended or held in court, those who should answer should be held accountable, those who should be replaced ,

they are not irreplaceable, they must be replaced, but what general zabrodskyi, general zaluzhnyi wrote about in the 22nd year, and now what general zaluzhnyi wrote, it must be implemented, hence, it is very important, first, despite the fact that that we are all in conditions of extreme tension, to gain wisdom, including, especially in international relations, because now, i think to myself, well, arrange this concert with relations with the congress. and type in the mouth in what is happening today in slovakia, in hungary, and not able to be formed the answer, well, it looks a little frivolous, and yes, in conclusion, i am convinced that there will be wise people, on one side and on the other, who will answer this question, because

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mark feigin, a member of the russian opposition, will be working on the air of the tv channel now emigration, former member of the state duma. glory to ukraine, mark, i congratulate you. glory to the heroes, congratulations. anton, greetings. well, i would like to start our conversation with an analysis of the so-called dagestan pogrom, which on the one hand did not materialize, on the other hand, we saw how they tried to organize the image the kremlin needed, on the other hand there is a feeling that the kremlin is ceasing to control the perimeter, in particular, this concerns dagestan itself, and in fact, i would like to ask you, who can be behind the attempt to organize all those things, as for the these events, look, they started maybe , how often? it happens from the etizode of something, from some post in the telegram, from some kind of call, random, as a reason, you know, not a reason, but a reason.

well, let's say, yes , the morning of dagestan turned to the salafis, the salafi youth, which is abundantly represented mainly among the avars , as far as i understand, in dagestan and makhachkala, to support with active actions, direct actions, actions, that's what it means, the cleansing of jews, well, some of them could have started to run, but they were running for the whole day, somewhere in the high street to a hotel, here to the airport, there is even a meeting the next morning, they proposed to announce that they are going, check documents, break into the airport, then take out the office equipment, break the doors, and no significant force is visible, who would prevent it there, not the roshvardya, which grows up, that is, from under the ground, there is the fsb, something else, there is nothing like that, they run around the airport runway all day and evening, there are... jews and so further, in my opinion, no one was found, as far as i am concerned i understand, and literally, well, probably, at night, the next morning, some forces that were there just appear, they didn’t go anywhere,

they didn’t land, the forces stationed there directly in dagestan are there, and the roshvardii and the army are there, and there is no one there in the north caucasus, is it possible to assert that this situation itself was provoked, as a reason, i emphasize, the reasons, we will say , by the fsb themselves or by the curators there, who somehow act through their structures, because this is the morning of dagestan, as they say, there they are in turkey, a few people are sitting, true, false, well, in general , some kind of dark story, are they working with any of these people, yes from dagestan itself or from the kremlin or from lubyanka, i don’t know but i can allow that, why not, because they provoked this public, they ran away, they were looking for something in the fans there , well, they were looking for something in the propellers in these turbines, now about the reasons, well, first of all, unequivocally, a completely anti-semitic atmosphere in the kremlin , and the kremlin has already finally stopped it

they will depict something, yes, the power structures they used to be like that, anti-semitic like that, absolutely anti-jewish, anti-israeli , whatever, any epithet is suitable, now these have also stopped portraying some kind of tolerance, tolerance, some kind of reciprocity, that we are with others, openly and directly, at the level of the former , well-known soviet state anti-semitism, clearly defined positions, jews, they are such, such, they are unreliable, citizens of jewish nationality, therefore, these are some such special people, who need to be said so, will be marked, because it is not at all clear what and how, and the kremlin took this position by no means by chance, supporting hamas, precisely by hamas, by no means by chance, listen, they are their allies, they are their allies for a long, long time years, already under putin, i’m not even talking, in the previous years, well, hamas itself arose there not so long ago, relative to the op or fatah, of course, they are their direct allies, they support them in everything, these support these, that support those,

sorry, hamas spoke in february at the end in february, when the operation began last year, the so-called special military operation in relation to ukraine , with the full support of moscow, against ukraine, he made anti-ukrainian statements, yes, we are not talking about iran, everything is clear with iran in general, the question is why ukraine itself is not should not support israel in response, that’s where the logic is, and support hamasaz or whatever, but ukraine should have , that is, how to understand everything, the statements that sound, well, at this meeting, putin says, i have says clenched fists when he sees the perishing people trample there, что он у тебя зжимаются, что он у тебя зжимаются, then where are they зжимаются в тебя? with whom do you want to fight with israel, or in the face of israel with western peace, no, if we have already talked, you know, about the suffering of the arab population, it is worth mentioning just the bombardment with phosphorus bombs of aleppo itself and not only aleppo, you understand, or something there the wagnerites created, yes, and i want you too, they killed with sledgehammers, they killed on camera with sledgehammers, they killed vagrants,

that means the participants of this syrian the resistance was killed with sledgehammers, and there they used chemical weapons, moscow used chemical weapons, tested them in syria, and something did not shrink, and the victims were completely incomparable in terms of scale, hundreds, hundreds of thousands died in syria , you know, without saying so to speak, about all the other things that sound cynical and duplicitous and so on, but they have reached the goal, the islamic world as a whole, if we are talking about it as a whole, yes, it is, as it were, on the side of hamas, on the side of... there palestinians, in this case the frontman of this topic is hamas, when they talk about the freedom of palestine, safe gas, it's all about hamas, it's not just about palestine, you know, palestinians live in different places, something on the west bank of the jordan river, no one drops bombs, agree that they drop bombs, kill children or someone who is there, no, fighting with hamas, yes, the fact that the peaceful population is dying, it is completely and entirely the responsibility of hamas, if

it was not... on october 7, it was not only the murder of 1400 in the south of israel , citizens of israel, and the capture of 220 hostages, well now they say 220, then 240, it is not known exactly how many died, but forgive me, the full responsibility for all the consequences lies with hamas, because you, more precisely, they return the hostages, lay down their arms, stop the resistance, and so on , and this was offered to them, they thought that they could play with the palestinian population in the gaza sector like this, exposed it to the most terrible danger and death as a result of the response actions, this is a matter of security security, this is a question of punishing the guilty, and israel will not refuse this, let the ground operation proceed, it proceeds in phases, sectorally it proceeds, not so to say on a large scale, but nevertheless it continues, and from this point of view, of course,