[000:00:00;00] something, 10 amendments, yes, i used one, and you used one separately, yes, 173, this is it, please, 173, please, a minute, please, two minutes, i have three amendments, and that's it to present, okay, please, three, two minutes for three amendments, please, gerashchenko, first, thank you, gentlemen. colleagues, it is very important that we ourselves observe the constitution and common sense. in draft law 137, we are talking about the retroactive effect of the law, and already now they want to take 200 billion hryvnias from the regions and send them to the special fund. in the time when a special fund was created at the ministry of defense according to nato standards, a procurement fund, and i have one question before presenting this bill, why then you do not direct the funds to

the ministry of defense with this bill, to state communications, to the ministries of strategic industries , and not to the ministry to which the back of the head should be responsible. there are also many other inconsistencies in this bill. i hope that those servants who remained in the hall read the article by commander-in-chief zaluzhnyi, where he indicated how important there are fortifications for victory. the military-civilian administration is responsible for the fortifications of the border areas. and ask shmyhal, who is not responsible for anything in the country, why even after the liberation of chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast, and kharkiv oblast, new fortifications and minefields have not been built on the border with russia, which may invade our territory again. we suggest that you hear the following logic in bill 137: leave 10% in the regions, and

that these funds go specifically to fortification buildings, bomb shelters and repairs of places of permanent deployment of the military, 30% to go to units, for repairs, the purchase of drones, etc., 35% went to the ministry of defense, which is responsible for rear procurement, and the rest to the ministry of strategic industries, but not to distribute to their fed to, you know, firms and small firms that do not know what they produce, and let these funds go through lending, because then they will have to answer for these loans, from... thank you, please, the position of the committee on these amendments, which said iryna volodymyrivna, 173, and the rest, i next, dear colleague, in your exercise 173, you propose in a different version to set out paragraph 228 of chapter six of the final decree, well , i would like to note that the established restriction

on the use of free remaining funds of local budgets according to an exhaustive list of expenses makes it possible, under martial law, to precisely direct funds for defense are priority expenses, and as for the fact that we do not spend on the military, well, that is not true, what the dss and the ministry of strategy and industry, they will produce and purchase products that will be needed at the front, this is the main goal, so we just thank you, thank you, let's move on, 174, 174 rubles does not insist. 175 kitsak does not insist, 100 79 gerasya, please artur volodymyrovych, arev, well, you used, well, the word of a gentleman , well, volodymyr, okay, arev, please, 179, ruslan oleksiyovych, i said that i use those amendments where i

is the first author, but here we are joint. amendments with artur gerasimov and rostislav pavlenko, and therefore i can take the floor. i emphasize once again that what i said in the previous speech. we have no other way out than to simply determine the expenses that can be spent on which the money from the military pddfo can go during martial law, because if we cut this money now from the budgets of the communities, the communities will be scattered, and it will be until things are much worse, because there is no need for internal tension, especially in the rear, and there will be, if this bill is passed in this form, let's look for a middle ground, i tell you again, this is a normal story,

a reasonable approach is needed, and not like now thank you, thank you, uh, about that, you, your last name starts with a, you are always the first in the alphabet, that's why, that's why i understood, let's move on, the next one, the 180th, again gerasimov, pavlenko arievs. again arriev, please, volodymyrovych, 180, i would like to emphasize again that the decentralization reform was one of the most successful reforms after 2014, and it is precisely the issue of pdfo remaining in the communities, it helped the communities to develop, so now part of the money you can take part of the money for defense needs, but not all of it, it is necessary for the communities to continue to develop, today we had the president of the european commission, ursula fondenen, in the parliament, we are waiting for a decision on the start of negotiations with the european union, but if we are talking about

joining the european union, then we cannot make anti-european decisions , this is the logic, and i urge once again, we need to be more engaged in reforms now and introduce all relevant bills into the agenda, but what is happening now is anti-reformism. 181- krulko, does not insist, 182 batenko does not insist, 183 mother does not insist, 184 flu does not insist, 185 frieze does not insist, 186 repina does not insist, 187 tistik does not insist, 188 razumkov, please, ruslan oleksiyovych, 188, 193, 194, these are similar. but all the same, i hope that you will also comment on them later, because they are more than specific, more, give me two minutes, please, more than correct, and you will also explain them to the audience and i hope that for them

will vote by listening to you, and i would also like to see where those critics who said that there is no logical edits here, let's talk logic, common sense and a smart approach. what is the correction about? this is the granting of permission to local communities to allocate funds for defense, in particular during the period of martial law, village, village, city councils, they will be able to make decisions on providing financial and material support to the defense security sector, approval of local programs to support the security and defense sector. this is exactly what this law should be about, about which, for example, our colleague, dmytro mikisha, submitted a separate bill. which and proposed that the local authorities should have the opportunity, so that the dbbr would not then come to them, as they do now, to have the opportunity under the current legislation, which you do not want to pass, to help the local authorities,

to help by allocating funds in sessions, through programs, by helping those who have been removed, are on the traffic police, or directly buy cars, buy drones. which cannot be bought by the central government, because no matter how much they traveled to the front, they did not see a single drone from the drone army, maybe someone did, but unfortunately, we haven't heard from anyone that we saw them, we can go with you, i don't know, let's go oleksan sergivych, ruslan oleksivych, let's go together, i think you may have been a long time ago, let's talk, we'll see to our defenders, where is the army of drones, we can talk about this in the background, because really , you said then that they are there, but they are not, let's... let's go together, see where they will be, and, i think, that it would be useful to demonstrate to the armies how the supreme council is working fruitfully to provide for them, so i very much hope that these amendments will

voted and supported, 188 , well, please, briefly the position of the committee, dear colleague, look, so the question of providing support to the security and defense sector from local budgets is already in the budget code of ukraine. local councils can make decisions on the transfer of funds from local budgets to the state budget with further distribution of such funds to the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, as well as transfer funds in the form of an interbudgetary transfer to other budgets for measures to support the security and defense sector, so this your amendment was rejected because we already have a regulation. thank you. thanks, let's move on, then. 189 amendment babenko, does not insist, 190. please, yaroslan oleksiyovych, 100, let's go , 190, 195, 209, 191st and 210, 211, 212, a second, 195, 200, it will be together until the 212th

amendment, that what we have, yes, that is, from 199-, from 195 to 200 from the 190th, that's seven seven edits, give me 5 minutes, please, please, 5 minutes, then i'll take everything up to 215, 5 minutes. you worked hard and came, that's right, colleagues, if we talk to you about what just what said the speaker, it is you who mislead, because it does not concern the material, plus, you want to take their money for yours. the state budget, so-called, its own, and distribute it there, instead of a specific community helping a specific unit that is based in them, please show me if this is in the current legislation, if so, let's talk about it, you propose to take money from them again to the state budget, after that to receive again constant corruption scandals with inefficient spending of funds on drums,

with inefficient spending, that's not... the local government correctly purchased drums, it was purchased by va, the military administration, they purchased pans, with the budget funds that you transferred there, they purchased all other unnecessary things for millions of sums, they made so-called repairs, which are not there, and after that you talk about the fact that let's take back just the local pddfo, well, i think that we can do many things with you...' ministries, including the ministry of finance, the ministry of economy, and others ministries, to speak, but where were they on february 24 , where did they go, in what direction were they, unlike the local authorities, the local authorities remained, for the most part, remained in their places, together with their communities, the army helped, the tro helped, the sso helped, the commander , whom you so shamefully dismissed, literally yesterday, guru helped, helps.

azov, helped by 72, if we are talking about kyiv, which entered from the march and took positions along the first line of defense on the serpin river, and there were not many ministries, they were on the far, far western front, and it was thanks to the local authorities that very often the enemy got there, not the central one, but now you decided to take money from them and redistribute it among yourselves, then you wonder... why are articles published in times about the fact that no one believes in our victory , there are articles about the fact that funds are being spent in the wrong place, there are articles about huge corruption, this is a problem not only of the government, which is directly involved in this process, it is a problem of the entire state , because it hits everyone, it demoralizes our international partners, it doesn't help... to hold back the coalition that was formed

around our victory, people are disappointed when they see the approaches that we see today in the central government, and you just want to take another resource for yourself, for your own wallet, and spend money from it where it is not needed, very often spending inefficiently, purchasing, i repeat once again, purchasing, here you are... it is called a bill on the development of the defense industry complex, we have almost two years of war. and let's go, if you come to, you know, any investor, in this case the people of ukraine are an investor who may or may not give you money there, you come and say: look, we did, here's one thing, here the second, here is the third, here we are releasing shells, here we are releasing drones, we destroyed half of the rashi army, with our drones, not volunteer ones, not those that the army buys for 30... and for a hundred, not those that provide

international aid, but those , what did you do, show what you did, sorry answers there is no, and then you will tell me where your shells are, 152nd, 122nd caliber, where are these factories, but you are at the front, i know, you communicate with the defenders, the truth is, what is missing, there are shells, mines 122 is there? are there shells, are there not, am i telling the truth, is this not the main thing that worries our defenders today, and now you, almost at the end of the second year of the war, come out and say: and we need to take money from the local authorities in order to stuff them again somewhere under the auspices of the fact that we will start building factories, and what have you been doing for two years? or tell me, we didn't do anything, we are such great professionals that we couldn't do the least during these two years of war, to build our factories,

and after that, then let the ukrainian people decide what to do with you next, and so far you haven't done, let's not take money from an effective, very often effective user, ukrainian communities, thank you, thank you, yes 190, it was 190, 191, what is here is not yours, i need all of them. still time to give? 30 seconds of intelligence. oleksandr serhiyovych, put 190, 195 and 209 rights. considering this is precisely about giving financial opportunity to local communities to allocate funds for our defenders, conceptually absolutely correct amendments, 190, 195 and 209, well, i am putting to a vote the proposal of people's deputy razumkov to take into account amendment number 190, authored by razumkov, zagoruyko and colleagues,

by the committee it is rejected, please vote. at 15, the decision was not taken, the amendment was not taken into account, i put to the vote the proposal of people's razamkov to take into account the amendment number 195 of the deputies of mokan, zagoruyko, saladukh, razumkov and others. it was rejected by the committee, please vote free balances of the road fund and. for 15, the decision has not been made and i put to the vote the proposal of people's deputy rozumkov to take into account the amendment number 209 of people's deputies petranyuk zagoruyka rozumkovo, it was rejected by the committee, i ask you

to vote. for 16 decisions. not accepted amendment not taken into account yes 192 mazurasha does not insist 190 seventh laba does not insist, 198 vasylchenko does not insist, 199 oleksiychuk does not insist, 200 tymoshenko does not insist, 201 oleksiychuk does not insist, 202 aleksiychuk does not insist, 2003 kisilevsky they don't insist, 204, bonder doesn't insist, bakunets doesn't insist 206 bakunets doesn't insist 207 doesn't insist 208 doesn't insist 2009 yes and 209 and it entered everywhere well 210 yes yes dmytro oleksand there 216 and onward your

block is going big again yes please razumkov there 213 is ours, if i am not mistaken, the previous block was 112. 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, these are seven revisions, give me 5 minutes, please, 5 minutes, please, oleksandr sergeyevich, dear colleagues , few, dear colleagues who, unfortunately, remained in the hall of the verkhovna rada, and who did not are worried about how ukraine will pass the test in winter, you did not vote for it now, i am sorry that the presidium did not vote for it, for amendments 190, 195, 209, these are amendments that would give local communities the opportunity to allocate funds for only for defense, and in particular allowed the financing of measures related to the work of territorial defense, mobilization training, training

of security forces, design, construction, repair, protection of civil defense facilities, and this would not only apply to... these are issues of storage facilities that would possibly protect our with you, saved our fellow citizens from shelling, which, unfortunately, we have to predict with you, that there will be this winter, the territory called russia, nothing stops them, and they will hit civilian cities, critical infrastructure objects, that's what i'm talking about what i am saying in these corrections, i and my colleagues from smart politics are precisely about the possibility of doing what the central government cannot do, apparently due to the incompetence of the lack of professional knowledge. forgive me, there are no relevant ministries today, but nevertheless, it is not normal when you and i already have

actually winter has started, thank god, it is warm, but because the heating season has started, but you and i are absolutely not ready. to the fact that our critical infrastructure objects will be hit by the enemy, well, this is not normal, when he speaks and says that we will bring the first of 22 substations into order only by the end, by the new year, to the point that may not be somehow protected, and he says that in this regard we are also ahead of the steam train, all the others to the end with... we, please tell me, well, it looks like a good stand-up, like some a comedy show, and not as an approach to... a statesman's position, to statesmanship policy, to preparing a country, a warring

country, for winter, you and i have forgotten what a blackout is, and thanking our energy workers, bow to them, and thanking that, that legacy, in this case, in a positive sense, which we received after the collapse of the soviet union, we were able to pass it, because our energy workers very often connected the wires with their bare hands and we received electricity with you in 10 hours, in five four, in this sense of such, such power, there is no such protection, and we had to prepare for it this summer, you did not submit a single bill that would allocate additional resources for this, you do not give the local authorities the opportunity to do... this work for you, i understand that you very often

using the cobblestone narrative, it's an absolute shame, because moving cobblestones or building stadiums in, front-line territories , or growing, sorry, flowers in kramatorsk, very nice, but not necessary, better to put a shelter there, better to prepare the infrastructure for the coming winter, 100% , but look, you're not doing anything at all? you have not prepared the energy system of the state for war, and with our proposals, if you take them into account, we could, if you take them into account, enable the local authorities to prepare together with the central authorities with joint efforts, joint funds for the winter, you do not do this, then, when the problems begin in winter, who will be responsible for this, you will come out again, say, it's not us, it's the local authorities, so you took money from them. you are ready for the fact that

the inhabitants of cities, villages, towns will come directly to you, as visiting majoritarians and to demand that you fix the water supply, sewerage, electrical network, etc., for some reason, i think the answer will be no, well, i would like to hear it from you, in advance, thank you, i will do something . from this to dmytro oleksandrovich, and i would like the position of the committee, if possible, the position of the committee, please, yuriy kuzbit, dear colleague, dear colleague, i would still like to understand on which specific work to give you an answer, because for example, well let me love, let me love by the way, in the second paragraph of section one of the draft law, replace the words free balances with the words unused funds, well, the answer is that the proposed terminology does not correspond to the provisions of articles 2.1472 of the budget code of ukraine, that is, this is what i see before my eyes, i have these amendments that i can comment within the regulations. thank you. thank you, yurii mykhailovych.

dmytro oleksandrovich, 220, then, please, razumko, 224, give three minutes, three minutes, yuriy mykhailovych, you must be on the podium, the government is not good, i asked you to gave an answer to the 190th edit, do you understand? 190 is 190, you would have answered them, not read everything in a row, not the edits that were changed to the speech, but the edit that your committee and you did not directly take into account, let's respect those who are watching with you, you don't respect the council, you don't respect fellow deputies, i think that unfortunately, well, it turned out that we don't have to demand respect from society either, but... i asked you a question about a specific amendment, you start telling me - any other, you generally choose what you want in that table,

you don’t give an answer on the normal edits, you see, because you don’t have an answer, give an answer on the 190 edit , there is a normal edit, everything is clear there, yes, i really want to hear an answer to it, and not pull out any other , including a technical one, there are no technical ones when you hide bad laws with good names, this is not a technical amendment, it is a demonstration that in this case you, because this is a repeated second reading, cannot make it more effective, at least the name of the law, i am already silent about the law itself, you understand, you are still going by the letters start telling, so that the letter b does not correspond to the letter a, according to the 190th correction, please tell me how she interfered with the law in this? why don't you want to give the local authorities the opportunity to really engage in the preparation

of civil infrastructure facilities , including seasonal heating. objects as shelters, which will be extremely necessary for the winter, because your va, the military administration has already demonstrated itself, we saw pans for several hundred thousand hryvnias, we saw very cool constructors for a million hryvnias, put good control over everyone, i don’t care if the mayor’s office or the management of otg steals something, you can also bring them to justice, i completely agree with you, we can even submit a corresponding bill together, but let’s make the law one for all, and for in the same way, military administrations that are appointed by the central government are appointed by the cabinet of ministers, this is a direct branch of the vertical of the president, including yours as a representative of the government, so please once again,

so that we do not seek other amendments 190, thank you, can you please i understand amendment 190, dear colleague, maybe i was distracted and did not hear exactly what you meant by 190, and the answer is as follows, you propose to change paragraph 228 of the draft law according to your own wording, i want to remind you that the budget committee has already established and supported the direction of use of these funds of free balances , that is, there are restrictions on the use of free balances of funds of local budgets according to an exhaustive list of expenses, which makes it possible to direct funds to protected and priority expenses in conditions of martial law, not allowing for inefficient expenses, i read it specifically for the transcript so that there are no double interpretations, but the proposed spending directions should be planned, just as in your editorial, they should be planned at the expense of current revenues to local budgets, but in addition, there are additions to the directions in the reference 163, which was submitted and taken into account, so i

think we will still remain on the adopted construction. and the budget committee of ukraine. thank you. dmytro oleksandrovych, 225-ta. please. oleksandr serhiyevich, let's go 225 dash even the 249th, that's how many we have six, nine, 11, edits, give it six minutes, give it, yes, if they object , 249, yes, no, 225, 249, yes, okay, yes, whatever please please 11 minutes, thank you, if necessary, and six minutes, yes, sorry, i asked, but it is possible 11, you know, 11 corrections, yuriy mykhailovich is interested, if you want an answer on which cases, so that you emphasize the number, the case of corrections really relates

there will be no technical questions for you, mykhailovych, but in the past, in fact, i understand that the secretariat has prepared an answer, i know that you are a professional person and you... are gathering in the amendments adopted by the committee, but i really wanted you not just to read, but to give a comprehensive position in the way that you know how, because just read it, here are the people who are watching us , i ask you a question, why do we not want to help the central government at the expense of the local government, so that they prepare for winter, so that their homes are warm, so that their homes have light, that there is light , so that in your homes... there was gas, so that there was water, so that there was not the sewer was blocked, many other things that bother every normal citizen, sometimes even people 's deputies, and you tell them that it's 200, 218, 38 and the like, well, that's it, well, let's respect those who watch us, in simple words , you can explain why you do not want

to support this perfectly logical amendment of the smart policy team. well, respect me, respect yourself, respect the authors of the amendments who prepared it, simply respect people, and then you and i, perhaps as people's deputies, will enjoy respect, and not as a where bezugla is not there, maryana volodymyrivna, who submits the relevant surveys, but does not go to the hall herself, but then, then we are surprised at that result. which we receive in her so-called polls, i understand that the term of office is coming to an end for some, but it seems that some people's deputies have started to master new professions for themselves, become sociologists, and you have to study there, it doesn't work like that there, i just wrote on facebook request and everything ran, no,