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[000:00:00;00] everything to destroy the future of this country, to sow despair among our defenders, to sow despair among our people that we are on the right path and we can be a successful country, everything is done so that people stop believing, you you know, and unfortunately, communicating with the military, communicating with people on the streets, you manage to do this, you manage to destroy faith in our state, faith among our citizens, faith in our future, successful after victory, but this is definitely the wrong way , you bet which of them on voting, well, 257, please,
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dmytro oleksandrovich. sorry 265, yes, that's 265, let's give 280 each, and we are not afraid of anything , and taking into account the fact that those who have the right to this, they, there are not so many of them here, who, who has the right to wear a uniform, a uniform uniform is needed, really, uniform is needed at the front, uniform is needed, closer to the front , but uniforms can be worn in kyiv, but not for our defenders, for them it is respect, for them it is an achievement, and in fact, a year ago, everyone prayed for this uniform , you see, everyone just prayed, and today someone allows himself to take the position that you
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step aside, because we are a little scared. you see, and this is just a demonstration of the fact that it starts from the top. i repeat once again, there are, there are territories where people definitely have the right to wear a uniform, we can go to zaporizhzhia, we can go to kharkiv, we can go to dnipro, even where something arrives every day, but here, well, it can be a little different do pr, you can help the army, you can. respecting our defenders can be done so that they feel this respect, and when we accept laws in order to fill, supposedly , the state budget, under the guise of helping people in uniform, in fact , we are trying to send these funds anywhere, well, it just looks shameful, i
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am begging you. to support this bill, you will not only destroy the local government reform that has been talked about so much that it is one of the best and most effective reforms, and it actually had a lot of right things in it, but you will destroy the system as it is today, the a system that can and does work unlike of the central government, which demonstrated itself at the beginning of the full-scale invasion, which ensured the result that it is, i do not want to go into personnel now, but we can conduct many examples in the kharkiv region, we can conduct many examples in the kyiv region, many examples in the zaporizhia region, donetsk region , there yes, there was, vtsa and we must give due credit
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to the management, they also demonstrated quite serious efficiency in their activities, but let's approach any process from the mind, let's to approach with logic, not just to mindlessly fulfill someone's whims and tasks, but to make sure that the laws that we passed were for the benefit of the state, for the benefit of our security, for the benefit of our army, for the benefit of our people, and not just for the benefit of separate, separate companies that will make money from this by selling uniforms at inflated prices, building roads, purchasing provisions, i will not want to repeat again about japo 17, about which the accounting chamber has already provided information and demonstrated how huge we lose we have in the state budget, and in fact i am surprised that the specialized committee has not yet
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heard this report, why? you didn't have time for this, well, 10:037 found it in seych, but listen to the master, listen to the members of the chamber of accounts, to understand...' and how does it happen that in a warring state we simply squander funds, what is he talking about the accounting chamber of ukraine, this is a body of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, i would like to remind you all, for those who do not know, or for those who do not remember, let's invite him to the hall, it is not closed report, open, public, let him give his position, let him point out, and let someone be responsible for it, otherwise they talked again and forgot. in other words, the principle continues to work in our country: the law is the law of the enemy, everything is with its own, this should not be the case, in a normal , in a normal country that is fighting for its independence and wants to build a european state, mrs. orsula spoke here today,
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and there those who came to listen to her, they are probably already sitting in the cafe, drinking coffee, because i don't see them in the hall, those who spoke a lot about conceptual edits, we just made conceptual edits with you, we discussed them with you, but somehow they are not there. great fighters for democracy, the rule of law and freedom of business, but please tell me, in the european parliaments , the laws on ensuring local self-government and the defense security sector are also considered or not? and you want to go to europe with one hand or one foot, and with the other foot it seems to me that you are going somewhere... the direction you are heading, in which direction, definitely, not in which definitely the ukrainian people want to go, thank you, thank you, yes
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283 rahami does not insist, 284 laba does not insist, 285 laba does not insist, 86, 87 , 88, 89, 90, 91, laba does not insist, 92 tzabal does not insist, 93, berezin does not insist. 94 mazurasha, please, mazurasha, george, for consideration, i have already spoken, 294 , put it, yes, yes, i have already spoken, okay, i am putting to the vote the proposal of narodny maz to take into account amendment number 294, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. and for 294 for god’s sake, for for 13, the correction is not taken into account, sorry, 275 nikludov, don’t
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insist, okay, 296 tsabelna lies, 297 goncharenko, we seem to have covered it already, yes, 298 savchuk does not insist, 299 yefimov does not insist, 300 vasylchenko. 303 bezgin doesn't insist, 304 gerashchenko doesn't insist, 305 rublev doesn't insist, 306 zhmyrinsky doesn't insist, 307 honcharenko is covered , 308 marev is covered, 309 batenko doesn't insist, 310, 311 mom doesn't insist, 312, arturovych, 312, there's your last name , please, 319, 19, good, 13, vlasenko does not insist, 14 flu
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does not insist, 315 yatsik does not insist, 316 fris does not insist, 317 shpenov does not insist, 318 319 gerasimo, please, thank you, oleksandrovich, i will continue. well, colleagues, there are only 17 servants of the people in the hall, they are not interested in it, but i must note that the most disciplined is the law enforcement committee, where i also see the head of the committee, i see a lot of committee members who are now present in the hall, well this is very correct, because the information that i am going to tell now will probably be very, very interesting to those people's deputies from the law enforcement committee who, let's say, lead law enforcement agencies. look, i would like to demonstrate the sign, i think the audience will not see it, but nevertheless, it is a sign from the report of the chamber of accounts, which clearly says that it is better not to give money to the central budget, because the reporting and accountability of local communities
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is an order of magnitude better, because there the mayor walks the streets back home and talks to voters, and sorry, as for the ministers at the central level, catch them. there will probably be a little, thank you, gerasim's 319 amendment, rejected by the committee, please vote. 320 gerasimov was not taken for 14 decisions, well, let's try again raztur volodymyrovych, thank you ruslan oleksiiovych, look at the report of the accounting chamber, and i will already express my thanks, but once again i would like to thank the deputy head of the chamber, mr. meisner, it is clearly stated that after the egg scandal
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, the price of eggs was reduced by 17, they became uah 9 per piece. but for some reason intelligence bought them for 530, the national guard for 5.23, border guards for 5.27, and the sbu for 5.46, shevchenko university for 5.50, and you know, i even asked my friends to drive around the supermarkets of the donetsk region, directly almost on the front line, so on... more expensive eggs were found in kostyantynivka 6 hryvnias per piece, you understand what that means, it means that it is cheaper for a military unit to go to a supermarket near the front line and buy eggs than to get them from the ministry of defense, and that's what this report is about, which we're going to talk about, gerasim's 320th amendment
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to the committee is rejected, please vote. nine decisions have not been taken 321 repina does not insist, 322 repina does not insist, 323 repina does not insist, 324 does not insist, 325 mazurasho say, and 325 mazura, if we agreed that we will vote her, yes, whatever please, 325 mazura, who will speak, no, i spoke, seven corrections and 5 minutes, now please, yaruslan oleksiyovych, 325, 523, 573 , 760, 960, 1089 and 1090, i am asking for 5 minutes, and i will put 325 on one counting, uh, 325 for counting, that is, please, 5 minutes, i will repeat it again, instead of 325th, 523rd, 573rd , 760th, 960th, 1089th, 1090th, everything, right, one minute please. oh, more than one minute, 5
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minutes, 5 minutes, please, mazurasha, george mazurasha, servant of the people, 23rd district, the survey was mentioned here, well, i understand that not it was done very well, i also do not support such actions of my colleague, but i can explain why there are such results, why such hatred, in particular towards the parliament of people's deputies. yes, we accept many things here that are incomprehensible to our voters, sometimes to the people. and by the way, this was emphasized to us by our partners from switzerland when we discussed one of the draft laws, and they diplomatically told us that it is too difficult, they, you know, have many referendums there, and they say, if you are so
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legal. projects, laws, adopted, put forward for a referendum, it would be passed, then people would rather not vote, maybe not even because they do not support, because it is simply not clear, it is too complicated, in this case, i emphasize that, unfortunately, many of our people, voters, citizens, readers, viewers, consumers , do not really understand what is really being said about these various manipulations, there are already so many... manipulations and fake ones, that it has even come to the point that videos from speaker, with ruslan sivych, spreads where the sound does not even coincide with with the movement of the lips, they say, but nevertheless, many people, even with higher education, are interested in whether this is true, and it is abnormal when our system does not react to it and is not able to counter it, the law enforcement committee was mentioned here, by the way, and this is things and throw a stone in the garden, because we have manipulations for... and
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there is no adequate response and adequate fight against these manipulations, and this is a problem, and by the way, this is one of, one of the reasons that such are the results of various such surveys , but i also want to emphasize, they mentioned there, by the way, both without a name and without last name, but they mentioned the draft law that i submitted, i just want to pay attention, out of respect, i always show respect to my colleagues and to other representatives of various levels of government there, that it was not the government that submitted that draft law, its number 829 from last year , from september last year, the government submits, if the cabinet of ministers submits. or if there was a decision of the faction of our servant of the people to support this bill, no, i filed it as people 's deputy of ukraine heorhiy mozorasho, elected in the 203rd district in the chernivtsi region, and i i affirm that this draft law is supported by an absolute majority
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, in principle, no one from my constituents with whom i communicate has yet spoken against this initiative, by the way, i also advise other colleagues to communicate with those, first of all, who authorized you to work in the parliament , this is important, because there is no logic when opponents or voters of opponents tell us that we do not work like that and so on, the moral right to influence us as elected people's deputies is first of all those who elected and authorized us, now regarding of this bill and regarding the funds that are absolutely necessary for the support of the army. i also communicate a lot with the military, it is popular here, let’s say it is fashionable there to mention trips there and communication, it so happened that somehow, among languages , the majority of the military are volunteers, i
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show them special respect, honor, gratitude, and in particular there are those who returned from abroad after 24, 2022 and went as volunteers to the front and their opinion, i also appreciate the position very much, but i'm sorry, i would warn my colleagues against submitting something to hear how there is a position of everyone of the military, it is necessary to be correct, at the front, even in the trenches, there are also different military personnel with different positions, and this should be understood and respected and given information adequately, because they have different positions. it is necessary that in our democratic country people should at least not be afraid to express their position, because in our country some elements observe, excuse me, the persecution of those who deviate from the marathon, yes only mafon position, and the amendment refers to leaving it to local
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communities , but 70% to send to. thank you, georgy ihorovych, amendment 325 of mazurash, rejected by the committee, please. vote, for 10, the decision has not been made, 326 pivavarov, does not insist, birthday boy, does not insist today , 327 bakumov, oleksandr serhiyevich , do not insist, do not insist, thank you, 328 laba, do not insist 329 mykisha, oh, you are moving like that, i i don't have time, please, dmytro, ruslan oleksiyovych, 329, 331, 334 and 337, four amendments for 3 minutes, if possible
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, please, first, yes, put it first, well , what are the amendments about, exactly, this is the most important point, what we offer in these edits. so, look, now , the personal income tax we are talking about, its part of the military pddfo, yes, in general, the personal income tax is paid in the local community in the amount of 64%. it was an agreement, before that it was 60%, that is , the local self-government body supposedly receives four additional percent, but in the budget code, this 64% is fixed temporarily. in the transitional and final provisions, i.e. this norm is temporary, we propose to make it permanent and make changes to the budget code so that the corresponding amendments,
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i.e. the corresponding norm in 64, pddfo by communities remained on a permanent basis in the body of the budget code, this is the first , moreover, the european union, the european commission noted as progress in decentralization from the norm and an additional point was given precisely in relation to the fact that we fixed it, but they have no idea that some of us, let's say, do-gooders from the government, have a desire to take away and return up to 60% under certain conditions, which is why it still remains under the final transitional provisions, the european commission does not even understand what it is it is possible to imagine that there is progress on decentralization, someone wants to untangle it. this is the first. second, and most importantly, we propose, if there is already an initiative, to take away the military pdf, or something, we propose. completely different, for which we generally want to take away, as we are told, in order to fill the defense fund, in order to help
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the army, that is what we offer, and we offer the following, that 50% of all military-pdf received by the community , it goes necessarily to the military units of the security and defense sector, necessarily, it is half, the other half goes, a large part of it goes to exactly... again on bonds of the internal state loan of the ovdp, from which it is also sent to the army, that is, we already propose how to do it in the current realities, there is no need to take anything away, we propose effective mechanisms, the first 64%, fix in the body of the budget code , this is one right here, and another correction, 50% of the military pdf should be sent from the communities to the military under the defense sector , and the other part, there, which is on the ovdp, which is also sent to the army, that’s all, there is no need
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to invent anything, there is no need nothing beats, nothing take away, and then the oms will help the army, thank you, 330 krulko does not insist , put 329, yes, please, dear colleagues, 3929, 329 amendment by mykyshiy and colleagues, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 12 no decision has been made 330 krulko does not insist 332 babenko is rejected with colleagues 333 razumkov , please oleksandr serhiyevich 336 i oleksandrovich left ruslan oleksiyovych
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336 already 333 data is full sel 338 424 3336 next 38 424 30 339 where is it give me three minutes please please give me three minutes time time initially 3 minutes. i will continue what our colleague on smart politics, mr. mikisha, said. we really proposed and by and large, if these amendments were adopted, we resolved the issue of providing for communities, and ensuring sustainable development, decentralization, and providing for the ukrainian army, yes, we would not have resolved the issue that someone has a desire to cut down the state... . budget and transfer it to the state budget, well, excuse me a little, we have other priorities than profiting from the state budget of ukraine
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during the war, unlike many who are engaged in this today, what we proposed, it concerns the 336th amendment - it is fixed at the level of the budget code of 64%. i know you've accepted that, we talked about it with you today, but again you called edits that are monobi edits. and unfortunately, you are using political approaches when taking into account the amendments, in my opinion, all the amendments, i would be in your place, as in the committee, i don't care who submitted them, as long as they are about one right thing, they should be taken into account, and not later you tell us that we are such good people here, we accepted it, you accepted it only because it did not pass you by in any other way, and you just focused on those corrections that were submitted, including by us and our team of smart people... politics, and the second aspect is that, keeping the pdf, 70% for the military
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, and giving it to the needs of the defense security forces, these are measures aimed at strengthening the defense capability of the security of the territory, helping our defenders, purchasing weapons, purchasing drones, purchasing uniforms, purchasing everything necessary for arrangement points of permanent deployment, which is not done today by the state, but today it is done by the local government, sometimes va, you have to give credit, and there are such examples, and for which i wanted to thank them, but in this case they are an exception, the local government in this regard, it is much more effective than the central or the so-called deputies of the central government, not all of them, i repeat once again, i do not want to offend those decent and efficient managers who are there, but these are isolated challenges, cases, therefore... this is exactly what we
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proposed with these amendments enable to provide for the needs of the ukrainian army without violating the principles of balance between the local central government, you are not. you do not need to help the army, you need to take this money to the budget, after that divide it, distribute it, and, unfortunately, very often send it to the corruption stories that we are talking about today colleagues talked a lot in the hall, referring to the report of the accounting chamber, i hope ruslan oleksivych, thank you, let's move on, which one? 338 dear colleagues, 336, 338, 424, i said correctly dmitry oleksandrovych, 336 amendment of authorship and colleagues by the committee rejected, please vote,
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for seven, the decision has not been made, 300 38 is correct. 338 authorships by razumkov and colleagues were rejected by the committee, i ask you to vote for eight , the decision was not made and the final amendment in this set 424 authorship colleagues, i ask you to vote. for nine decisions, the next one has not been made. 335 naharnyak does not insist, further 340 pipa and colleagues do not insist, 341 oleksiychuk
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and colleagues do not insist, 342 tymoshenko and colleagues have already spoken, 343 aleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 344 oleksiychuk and colleagues do not insist, 345 aleksiychuk z colleagues do not insist, 346 oleksiichuk and colleagues do not insist, 347, kiselevsky does not insist, 348, shapovalov. does not insist, 349 bondar does not insist , 350 prygodko and his colleague do not insist, 351 oleksiyev does not insist, 352 goncharenko has already spoken about this , 353 chornomorov and his colleagues do not insist, 354 krulko and his colleague have already spoken 356 flu,
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they have already spoken, 357, arachamiad georgivych no, i do not insist, thank you, next 358, arahamia again, does not insist, yes, good, 359, arahamia again, do not insist, good, 360, chornomorov and his colleagues do not insist, 361, chornomorov and his colleagues do not insist, 362 alexander sergeyevich bakumu does not insist, 363 tzabal does not insist, 364 mom does not insist, 365 mom does not insist, yes, it has not happened yet, please, yes, please please, dmytro oleksandrovich , from 366 to 379, give me 6 minutes, please, please, thank you, first, start

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