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now in ukraine it is used much more corruptly than at the local level. we talked about eggs, but let's talk about other things. we have bread here, which is purchased by the ministry of defense at buhanka, the difference is uah 8. once again, i emphasize that it is cheaper for military personnel from the front line to go to supermarkets in the kherson, mykolaiv, donetsk, and kharkiv regions than to receive it from the ministry of defense. what resume? of this process is very simple: it turned out that they even made money from dogs, from feeding dogs, even there they stole at an unmeasured pace, read the accountant's report, and as for how they stole 440, yerasim's colleagues, the committee was rejected, i ask you to vote.
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for four, the decision has not been made, please, 441 artur volodymyrovych, yours again, please, let's return to yours, and you know that it turned out that in the first half of the 23rd year, this is after there was this famous scandal 17, the ministry of defense, mr. rezniko purchased food products at prices at least 30% higher than consumer prices, i emphasize consumer prices in supermarkets, we are not talking about wholesale prices at which they should have purchased, did not conduct a price analysis, did not control the actual quantity of products delivered, and 75% of the items in the product catalog were not delivered to parts at all, just think about the cynicism of the government, which today treats the soldier in such a way, why am i telling all about this now, very
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simple: due to the speeches today, i want ukrainians to see how systemic corruption is today at the state level, and it is overseen by the central government, so that money remains at the level of communities, where mayors walk the streets, and thank you, 441 gerasimovy colleagues, please vote. no decision was made for eight. next amendment 442 artur volodymyrovych, please. thank you. thus, it appears that price gouging was a systematic policy of the ministry of defense. you know what's interesting, we've heard a lot, we've heard
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a lot about the fact that the prices are so high because these prices have in themselves, inside of them, a component like delivering food to a military unit, and you know, thank you again accounting chamber, for the fact that they clearly found out what it turns out, these companies were taking 9 hryvnias for an egg, 8 hryvnias more for a loaf of bread, and the delivery was made by the producer of the products, from whom they bought the egg at 3.50 hryvnias, at 4 hryvnias, and it was this producer who included this delivery in his price, and i others really have questions that have already been raised by colleagues, and why the budget committee, why the anti-corruption committee, amendment 442 of the gerasimo committee has been rejected, please vote.
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for 18 decisions have not been made 443 artur volodymyrovych, please, thank you, and you know, i really have a question, why the budget, why the committee on national security and defense, why the anti-corruption committee, i am addressing those present in the hall, the majority of the law enforcement committee of deputies, why you urgently. they did not invite the chamber of accounts with this report to their meeting, because it seems to me that urgent criminal cases should be opened after this, so even with nine eggs, where they steal twice as much, so that you understand, the difference between eggs 17 each, amounted to 1 billion 570 million hryvnias, and the accounting chamber has already posted the official document on its website, we printed it out today, that is
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for your understanding, when there were 17 eggs, tens of billions of money were stolen, unfortunately, at the central level, and we will continue to talk about this further, and please take into account artur volodymyrovych's amendment 443 , the committee rejected it, i ask you to vote for five decisions not accepted artur volodymyrovych 444 please. thank you ruslan oleksiyovych. so when we talk about the fact that the thesis that products are delivered to the front turned out to be a lie, the accounting chamber, well done, it provides specific things, such as when the primary documents for june 23 were examined, as part of the invoices for the receipts of food products as
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suppliers, it was listed, for example, the globin meat processing plant, which is the real producer of the products, who supplied it, and it is interesting that this particular producer of products, supplied these products to military units at his own expense, just to understand what is happening at the state level, after that , look, we are moving on, but whether the personal income tax, which we are talking about today at the local level, was used correctly, far from everywhere and far from it, but this figure has already been discussed, only in the 23rd year more than 60 billion local pdf was directed to. thank you, artur volodymyrovych, i put your amendment, but please, these are very important facts that you read from the report, but can you get closer to the amendments, to their content, gerasim's amendment 444, rejected by the committee, please vote yes.
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the decision has not been made, next 445 the southern woman, she has already reported her, 446 yatsykna insists, 447 babenko and her colleagues do not insist that the southern woman reported her, and you just spoke, we voted for it, artur volodymyrovych, you don’t follow your amendments , you voted on the 43rd, everyone voted artur volodymyrovych, you also voted on the 44th, we all voted, we don’t know, you’re just so charged with emotions, that’s why we have to, let’s follow, let's go further, 400 50 horbenko and colleagues do not insist, 451 horbenko and colleagues do not insist, 451 pipa and
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colleagues do not insist, 454, 453 pipa and colleagues do not insist, 454 prykhodko do not insist, 455 honcharenko has already spoken, honchurenko has already spoken, 457 tsabal does not insist, 461 tsabal does not insist, 464 mokan, please, mykysha, 464, ruslan oleksiyovych, i will list the edits and change them for 5 minutes, 464, 66, 68, 70, 72, 74, 75, 89 and 95th, for 5 minutes, please , 5 minutes, reset the time, thank you, first of all i am asking for these corrections, we are changing the addressee, who should ultimately receive the funds, we are changing the two
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main addressees, the armed forces of ukraine, as well as theirs, the most effective and most famous military unit, the structure: the main intelligence department the ministry of defense, these are two units that everyone should receive funds. i want to explain to you now why we decided this way and why we want the funds to go to these structures. look, now we see, including first of all, probably through the only telethon, that there are constant strikes, actions regarding the fact that the local samovrya. should direct funds to the armed forces, to the security and defense sector , i fully support this, i fully share the concern, i fully share the people's indignation about the fact that the funds are being used in an unclear way, and it is
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being used by individual heads and individual by representatives of certain territorial communities, but it is not everywhere, it is several dozen communities, yes, it is a lot, but let me remind you that in ukraine we have 1,469 territorial communities, once again 100. 469 territorial communities, and evil mayors, their posipaks in several dozen, why should we now take funds from local self-governments in general, not giving them the opportunity to help the armed forces of ukraine , including the main development department, which we are now saying and writing about in these edits, and we demand that they demand that they supported
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i would also like to appeal to those people who go to rallies and constantly talk about the fact that funds should be sent here, they will definitely tell you that some mayor has stolen somewhere, but they will never tell you that the local self-government as of august 2023 year has already helped the armed forces, in general, the defense security sector in the amount of more than 60 billion, you will not be told about it. and no and no one will say, they are silent about it, neither are you, when you say that the local self-government should help army, and do you know, do you know that according to the legislation, material aid, which is the purchase of cars, the purchase of drones, other material aid, the same tractors to buy and transfer, for example, artillery, because sau taaladin self-propelled artillery installations, they must be buried
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, but not to do it manually, and where to get this tractor, the local self-government could help, but they cannot, they are not allowed to hand it over to the armed forces of ukraine, for this comes responsibility, and first comes an inspection in the form of an audit service, and for law enforcement agencies, the police, the state security bureau and others come with it, and responsibility ensues, this is misuse of funds, and you can do it. plant, you are not told about this either. accordingly, we registered bill 95.59, and by the way, amendments from it are also included in this bill, so that local self-government could freely transfer material aid to the military unit of the defense security sector. do you think that they were not supported by the documents in this bill. bill 95.59, its in general blocks the prime minister and does not allow him to help in every way.
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so that it does not get on the agenda of the verkhovna rada, you will not be told about it either, and by the way, when you go out and hold rallies and demand that the funds go to the army, this is a blunder during martial law, now you are allowed, and please note that you were also forbidden to go out during martial law, when there were 17 eggs, you were forbidden to do it, and now here they allow it, how does it turn out and on... there is a 590 resolution of the cabinet of ministers, this is exactly the activity of the treasury service, which explains exactly how the funds should be distributed, first of all the army, second social welfare and third everything else, so why did it work in the 22nd year, and now nothing has changed in it, and there is such crazy spending, that is, who allows gives permission for this, we all need to think about it and not support the relevant ones. 465 zabal rejected
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, does not insist, 467 petrunyak does not insist, 469 zabal does not insist, 471 petrunyak does not insist, but i apologize 473 zabal does not insist, 476 berezin does not insist, 477 vasyl. does not insist, 478 goncharenko has already spoken, 479 ketsak does not insist, 480th, gerasimo artur volodymyrovych, please, artur volodymyrovych, thank you, ruslan oleksiyovych, look, this amendment is about not directing money to the ministry of strategy, strategic industries of ukraine. i will explain what i mean, i have a strong feeling that they will not just be stolen there, but stolen at a frantic pace, because the scheme looks like this: they stole on the roads, conducted sociological research, realized that it is now unpopular and found a chic
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a scheme where to steal next, allegedly for the creation of weapons. i am sure that weapons will probably be produced, but the question is at what prices, as in the roads, overestimating the prices there by one and a half or two times, or in some other way? and we won't get an answer, because it's all the defense industry, during the war, it's classified data. whoever came up with this scheme, probably. if you notice, we're not talking about drones and drones here, because yes, we can argue about this mechanism, but nevertheless, these guys came to us, presented, showed all this, and we we understand what it is. there can be a working history, and the correction can be put to a vote. 480 amendment authored by gerasimov and colleagues , rejected by the committee, please vote for nine,
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decision not taken, 451 shanina has already reported, 452 yuzhanina has reported, 453 yuzhanina has reported. 484 povila, 485 yatsyk does not insist, 486 babenko and his colleagues do not insist, 488, petrunyak and his colleagues also insist, 490 pipas colleagues do not insist, 491 honcharenko, please, oleksiy, dear mr. chairman, i ask for corrections 49 1, 492, 514 , 542, 552, give me, four minutes, please, i will speak on these amendments, and i will put two of them to the vote , then let's maybe add a couple of amendments, because there are five, let's stop at these, okay, let's go, thank you, so they are very important
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in fact amendments, i will put to the vote amendments 491 and 492, which they provide, they... provide that a part of the money that you want to take from local self-government, for example, to the army, so that it really goes to the army, namely, 50 % that went to the payment of monetary compensation to servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine and others military formations formed in accordance with the laws of ukraine, we have a colossal problem today, we have a delay even in combat, we are now a month from september, we are now in november, for september the combat will be in full force. not paid, this is far from the first time, and in the national guard in the dpsu, there were regular delays , it was necessary to strike out, directly, so that these funds were paid to the servicemen, now the problem is with the combatants in the armed forces of ukraine and not only with the combatants, a blatant situation, these are outsourced , these are thousands of military personnel, most of whom are
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people who have already sacrificed their health for the state, de facto, are recognized or limited before or unfit for the marine corps' military service, and after that they simply do not have any salary, a salary of 500, 600, 700 uah per month, and to correct this if there is already such a desire to take it to the army, then let's really give it to the army, also people are waiting for months for the payment of a one-time cash benefit for loss of working capacity, disability, that is, those people who received a disability of the first, second, third group, military.. . employees during their service and they are waiting for these payments for months, and it would be possible to correct this situation both for those with limited eligibility, and for those who are unfit and retired, and for this category, by the way, an absolutely blatant situation, friends, on june 30, we adopted a law here,
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of which i had the honor to be a co-author, on payments to military personnel, conscripts, and cadets. instructors who are limitedly suitable for the defense of the homeland have been removed from the staff and only literally in the past 10 days have they started paying conscripts to cadets there two weeks, finally this week they began to pay something to those with limited suitability for the protection of the homeland who were taken out of state, but still far from all, but at least something, and there is still nothing about the instructors, the fifth month, how does our law work, to the instructors until now. they are waiting, well, this is just some kind of bullying, another point of this law is to give conscripts the opportunity to transfer to the mobilized, the fifth month, changes must be made to the presidential decree on the procedure for military service, the president's office cannot reconcile the fifth month with two sheets of paper, well, this is the implementation of our laws, mr. chairman of the verkhovna rada, maybe
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you will make some appeal, well, the law is in effect , 30 days were given for by-laws, why is it already the fifth month, 30 days have turned into 130 days, and so far there is no result, well, please contact the president’s office, let them give birth to this unfortunate document already, because how to run after the hard-working, we see that they are well done, yesterday such great vayaks already came out, irmak’s deputy, there is a critic, criticizing, but how do your work and two pieces of paper to write so that conscripts can transfer from mobilized, voluntarily, if they do not have one more amendment and 492 30% of these funds to pay aid to the families of the dead, well, it's generally mica, unfortunately. they have been waiting for these payments for months, often months, huge non-payment and huge delays, let's give it, this is real help to the army, i put it to
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a vote, dear colleagues, amendment 491 authored by honcharenko, rejected by the committee, please vote. for seven decisions were not made. 492 amendment authored by goncharenko was rejected by the committee, please vote, for seven, no decision has been made, 493 bakumov, don't insist, thank you, 494 with colleagues. does not insist, 496 petrunyak with colleagues, does not insist, 497 mokan with colleagues, does not insist, insist, please razumko
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, 496, seventh, eighth, ninth, 500, 51, 52, 503, give me 5 minutes, any please, 501, 502, 503, right, yes, please, 5 minutes. dear colleagues, well, i see that even the leadership of the monomajority could not stand it anymore, left, i proposed, first of all, now in the hall we have 199 people's deputies, cards, cards, they are just those, for those who are watching us, just those who did not show cards , there are 199 of them, everyone can see the hall, and everyone understands that this is a violation of the decision of the constitutional court, a violation of the law, in principle... we can do nothing now consider, do not vote for anything, i once again appeal to the chairman of the verkhovna rada, at the beginning of the amendments i said about this that let's leave the key important
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amendments for the next meeting, and i think that i and my colleagues on reasonable politics insist on technical amendments they won't be, i said that at the beginning of our meeting, to me it seems that you just like it there, let's work well, i'm for it, it's a pity , the truth is that it's only me and how many, well, i think that we have about 15 people left in the hall, maybe 20, we're strong, but no less, well, of the leaders of the faction, there is only one leader of the faction, there is no one else, right , it looks somehow strange, such an important law, everyone says that it is very, very necessary to adopt it, and it is very necessary to adopt it, it is very necessary, yes that we visited him on saturday. and when there are constructive suggestions, let's amend the key ones so that people are in the hall so that they recruit, maybe recruit, or not recruit support in the hall, we'll postpone it to
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the next meeting, you don't want it, okay, let's work in this mode, i'm in principle in favor, let's work , at least sometimes, i would also like to mention the minister of justice in relation to procurement and how public funds are spent. i think everyone has seen those videos, they are beautiful, when he demonstrated that he has a good bar, but he consumes only oil, but you, you understand that we are the state budget we are turning into a circus, we are simply turning into a circus, you are not ashamed of such ministers, can you, in parallel with this law, introduce a motion to recall such specialists from their positions? and to appoint someone adequate, including from specialized committees, from colleagues, there are smart, efficient people there, i think they will be useful for the state, much more than
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the minister of justice, who conducts uh, training, i don't know whether just tours of paid cameras for representatives of the parliament, and at the same time he is engaged in the purchase of noodles, i will buy something else. and he can be a stand-up comedian, but i don't think that's the function of the minister of justice, so i understand that it's not about this particular bill, it's just about how public money is treated, for a laugh , and i think that it would still be worthwhile to approach this process more seriously, to fill it with meaning, and it would be faster. or better, and i think that a larger number of colleagues would have voted for it, and we would not be violating either the constitution of ukraine or the regulations of the supreme
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for the sake of ukraine, thank you, amendment 504 mokan, insists, please, razunkov, 504 from 504, to the 521st and there 728, they are of the same type, please give me 5 minutes, please, for which one, tell me again 54, 504, 505, 6, 7th, eighth, ninth, tenth, 521 and 72. eighth, okay, please, five minutes, eh, dear colleagues, just to those amendments that could be made again, if they listened to of the proposals of the smart policy team, to make sure that the sheep are whole, the budget is filled, the wolves are fed, and the army is provided for, and eh, we are not,
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but unfortunately, yes, we have such colleagues whom it is difficult to call even this respectable, this respectable cattle, and these colleagues simply tell us that we are not sheep, it is true, eh, what is this amendment about, an amendment that gives the possibility, in case this disgraceful draft law is passed, so that the government takes the pddfo from the military to the state budget, to ensure an effective control mechanism, and it works. control mechanism and for the parliament so that we can really control where these funds go, so that it can be secured control and independent structures, but the committee rejected it again, here i am, i will put these amendments for confirmation , for voting, for consideration, or rather, excuse me, and i will ask that the committee give its explanation, we proposed that the ministry of strategic
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industries had to comply with the criterion of at least 50% localization of production, because we have already seen how well you spend money abroad and take it out, we would like to see enterprises here and localization was at least 50%. second, the cabinet must within 30 days to approve the corresponding budget programs, there are no problems here either, please tell me that this is so important, so important, we have already failed this draft law once, during this time we could ... so that it would be transparent and that no one would pocket anything again, but the committee rejected it. further, establish a clear schedule for the use of allocated funds: 25% by april 1, 2024, 40% by july 1, 2024 , and 35% by october 1, 2024. the cabinet of ministers within 30 days from the date of entry into force of this law, forms a commission for control.
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according to spending, expenditure of funds, this commission should include members of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, who are not in the hall today, none, simply not one, so it is possible that it should not be taken into account here, precisely in this aspect, then members of the verkhovna rada committee on budget issues, members of the verkhovna rada committee on the organization of state power, local self-government and regional development, the number of members of such committees is not less than 50% of the composition of such a commission, that is, it is a real parliamentary control over the activities and spending of these funds. there is absolutely no politics here, especially i don't understand why the servant didn't vote for it, because you would have more representatives in this commission than representatives of any other factions, you could control this process so that nothing was sprayed too much , and you
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could participate in it. should take part in the work of this commission, and not in cutting the budget, i hope. next, representatives the ministry of finance of ukraine, representatives of the ministry of economy of ukraine, because localization of 50% is exactly what you and i accepted, and i, mikisha, oh, excuse me, and natalukha, voted for this bill, and then thanks to our joint work with you , it was voted in the hall, regarding localization, looking at the reservations of our european partners, but unfortunately, i cannot say that it works in the full sense as we laid it out, further representatives, city, village, village heads, heads of all-ukrainian associations, local authorities self-government and representatives of the north atlantic treaty organization, this would also allow our international partners to show that we are not mastering the budget.

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