[000:00:00;00] relative to the fact that the threat of a global war is increasing, i would say yes, it will be significantly reduced if the german taurus arrive in ukraine as quickly as possible, and if ukraine receives everything it needs not to deter the enemy, but to to defeat him, but here we come back again and again to this formula , we will be with you as long as necessary, but we do not have a decipherment of how much is necessary and what it means, so i think that a very important task of our diplomacy at all levels, i have the concept of diplomacy here

in a broad sense, not only the work of the ministry of foreign affairs, is to prove to our western partners that there is a defeat of the putin regime in their nations, that there will be a completely different set of circumstances that will be beneficial for the west, because then it will dictate what will take place in this post-russian space, and not the other way around, but so far this is mission impossible , our western liberal colleagues are afraid to even think about it, to do something, my contacts, in particular, the recent ones with the americans , say that that they don't want to know about it even talk, unfortunately, the time will come and they will have to talk, i still hope so, friends, we are working live on the channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those

who are currently watching us live on... please like this video, do not be stingy in order for this video to be promoted in youtube trends, and take part in our survey, we conduct it on youtube and on tv, on youtube and on tv, it it sounds like, has there been less corruption in ukraine since the beginning of the great war, yes, no, you you see on the screen phone numbers that you can call and give answers , so if you think that there is more to your opinion during the war, then call the phone number 0800 211 381, if not, 0800 211-382, well on youtube the channel is quite simple, yes no, there are two ticks, or if you have an opinion, please leave it in the comments below this video and now we have the interim results, hopefully we will see them on the screen now,

so on.. . this minute 69% said that corruption did not become less during the war and 31%, that is, a third said there was less corruption during the war. next, we continue our conversation with volodymyr ogrysk, a politician, diplomat and minister of foreign affairs in 2007-9, why exactly we , mr. volodymyr, ask our viewers about corruption, because corruption... is one of the main issues and probably the main claim there are no western leaders and western institutions, including european ones, which do not sufficiently fight corruption, they have been moved with appointments to nabu, we are talking about the new head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office and the director of nabu, well, at least such claims are written in the document of the european commission,

internal. made public today by radio liberty, because it is about the conclusion, resolution of the european commission regarding the negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union. obviously, there will be an official document tomorrow, as far as i understand, according to the information that our colleagues from radio liberty made public, four of the seven steps have been completed, well, that is , a little more than half of what is necessary, which means the constant emphasis of our western colleagues on the topic of corruption, although, well, the same the head of the administration, or at least the office of the president of ukraine, andriy yermak, in an interview with a politician, said that in reality we do not have such a high level of corruption, especially since we are at war and during the war we are still

carrying out reforms, so absolutely. it is not clear why such criticisms are directed at the current ukrainian leadership and the ukrainian state. what, what do you say about this point, because it is such a ... a strong enough argument for the western politicians who oppose the current authorities in the west to say, well, listen, you give money or weapons, and there is already corruption there, it’s terrible, it’s just not clear what to do with it then, well, you know, mr. sergey, i was just now listening to your introduction to this question and for some reason i remembered, back in the 90s, when i started working as an administrator. president kuchma, and even then, this corruption was blamed on us as the main prerequisite for the fact that

we will not have either european or euro-atlantic integration, and what should be done with this, sometimes, the president jokingly said, dear friends, the word corruption is not of ukrainian origin, but here we are... talking about the scale of this phenomenon, unfortunately, it is still large-scale in our country, and let's be honest, although the changes are huge, although the changes are colossal, in my opinion, and we are now significantly different from ukraine, let's say there, in the 90s , zero years, even, inside, in the last decade, a lot has been done, but unfortunately, not so much to say that we are done with this phenomenon, well , i'm sorry, if the head of the supreme court of ukraine

takes bribes worth millions of dollars, well, that's the answer to what we have going on in particular, in the judicial system, it is good that he was caught, it is good that he will now be responsible for all this, well, but what have we forgotten, let's say, customs cases, we have forgotten about cases that concern some other aspects of the economy, well, procurement, in particular purchases, armaments, or property there for means, i wanted to say, mr. serhiy, about something else, even about the fact that the basis of a market economy is competition in general, and if we see that, some are in chocolate, and others are not allowed, and this

competition, well, begins to break down and limp on all four legs, that's it means that gray areas are created, which are used by dishonest people in order to enrich themselves. and this is also corruption, why, because of this judicial system, when even corrupt people are caught, they are released from responsibility after a few years, because the deadlines for the consideration of these cases pass and they drag out these cases in all kinds of ways, so that later, they can be released from the court and so on and so on, that is, unfortunately, there is a topic. and now the european commission will emphasize once again that progress has been made, progress is tangible, but

please take a few more steps so that this, this one is removed from the agenda, we don't need the chairman of the nabu, we don't need to complete all the things related to the appointment of judges there in all these bodies, which are already na na na gave birth to many, but which continue, unfortunately, sometimes, in the same practice that was up to this time, that is, well, at least formally , those things must be carried out in order to remove this issue from the agenda, but this is completely does not mean that removing them, even, we should calm down and understand that everything is fine, everything is fine with us, well, unfortunately, starting from household corruption and ending with a big one, we still have a long, long way to overcome this shameful practice, unfortunately, and this truth. the european commission intends to recommend to the countries

of the european union to start negotiations with ukraine on joining the european union, but only after the implementation of a number of reforms. at the same time , information appeared that the same hungary would block the start of negotiations. with ukraine on joining the eu, the politician said director of the prime minister of hungary, orban. hungarians demand that ukraine cancel the law that obliges minorities to receive at least 70% of education in ukrainian. the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba , reacted to hungary's intention to block negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union. let's listen to what mr. kuleba said. regarding the education of national minorities. as for the blocking, well, here, i think , it is no secret for anyone that the issue of national minorities is fundamentally promoted by hungary and

specifically in hungary. so seen, but you know let's worry about problems as they come, i emphasize once again that currently we see that we are going to december for a decision on the decision of the european council to open negotiations on membership with ukraine in the european union, titanic work... done, political, balances are formed in the european union, but each country is definitely trying, will try, to play this situation in one way or another for its own interests, don't forget, each country, well, in this case, maybe mr. kuleba diplomatically avoided even mentioning one country, slovakia, because... fico came to power there and

the prime minister, who is pro-russian , he always was in the previous term and now, there is orban, that is, at least two states that will to do everything in order to slow down ukraine's movement towards the european union, or even openly play along with moscow, expecting some kind of putin's support or putin's thanks, well, if we are talking about orban, in what way, mr. volodymyr, ukraine can avoid these european riffs, well at least in the form of two states, slovakia and hungary, well, you see, mr. sergiu, i think that slovakia is a less complicated case, for one simple reason, fico is not the sole, so to speak, ruler of this country, because he heads the coalition government, and if it wasn't there, he...' needs to coordinate all his steps with

the coalition partners, and i think that not all of them will want to be branded as moscow's underlings, moscow's lackeys and so on and so forth, therefore, the situation with him will be difficult, but no, no, no, not without a way out, that is, it will always be possible to find certain ways of solving certain issues, and by the way, these are his first statements that we will not provide defense assistance to ukraine, you see, now they have transformed into something that, if some company wants to sell weapons to ukraine, then it is their business, and the government will not interfere in this , well, yes, sorry, this is a completely different approach, in the end, we will find opportunities to purchase those weapons. what

would we really need from slovakia. in the case of orben, unfortunately, we have a continuation of this of an absolutely pro-moscow destructive line, and i don't think that even after satisfying one, one whim, there will be a pesta, and by tomorrow some second, and then a third, and then, and then... the 25th, this is the line , the question here is not, no, it’s not that ukrainian citizens of hungarian origin should not learn the ukrainian language, i don’t know, i don’t have statistics at hand right now, i ’ll deal with it, i’m just wondering if there are countries where national where representatives of national minorities do not study, state language, but i just now... it became really

interesting, i am looking for such data and just then, maybe next time we can discuss this issue as well, this is completely absurd, that is, hungary wants to create a hungarian enclave in ukraine, which would actually be managed from budapest, well, it doesn’t fit into any gate , let the tamtsia commission talk about commas and dots where something needs to be done, but another country cannot dictate to ukraine how we should arrange our ukrainian home, there are relevant international conventions , we do not violate them, we go, yes

so to speak, together with all those european countries that have the same national minorities, i think that our diplomats , including those who are engaged in this direction, should really look for examples of such an approach in europe, i think that we are unlikely to find them, and that is why going to brussels and showing concrete examples that what orbán is doing actually harms the european union itself, although, i will tell you frankly, everyone has understood this for a long time, and in my opinion, it is sensational there is no such thing, they... uh, they will think about it now reforming the european union, this is already becoming a topic, not even a rumor, of practical discussion, by the way, it will also be a certain challenge for us, because we will join, most likely, a different european union than

the one that exists today, but as part of this reform, the rules of the procedure, the rules of decision-making will definitely be changed , and after that, comrade orman will have to go for money, probably, except to moscow, and there already publicly open the suitcase, fill it with russian rubles or, i don't know what, and return to hungary, to say that this is bad brussels, it is actually worse than the occupation of the former ussr, but good putin gave us a little more, er, free, or not very expensive natural gas, unfortunately, so far, the european the union can probably reduce payments from european funds, for the needs of hungary, but you see,

budapest is simply blackmailing the eu by demanding billions in exchange for 500 million, which, again, it received under a false pretext, the pretext that , which ukraine called the hungarian bank a sponsor of terrorism, well if you work during the war in the country of the aggressor, then the question is, who are you sponsoring , unless it is terrorists, but such logic for mr. orban is higher mathematics, well, you know, mr. volodymyr, obviously orban will not be around for so long to go to moscow, because sociology appeared, the budapest institute of sociology conducted a publication, it conducted a survey and asked hungarians how they feel about orbán's meeting with putin in beijing on october 17, when the one belt, one road forum took place, and what in general

, the hungarian media write that in response to 50, in response to whether they support this meeting or not , 52% of respondents find orbán's meeting with putin unacceptable, i.e. 52% of hungarians, 35% considered it quite normal, and 13% could not give it an assessment, that is, when 35 and 13, you who are undecided and those who support it, it turns out to be 48%, the hungarians are still neutral because they support orbán, that is , the scarf... has already prevailed many times to those who consider orbán's meetings with putin unacceptable, that in your opinion, it pushes hungarians to support orbán and to pay attention to what is he doing, including with the russian federation, given the long history and

difficult history of the soviet union, including with hungary? well, you know, it seems to me, mr. sergey. this is such a typical populism of the, you know, terry type, when orbán very clearly and clearly plays the chauvinist card, well, look, if he comes to a football match with a scarf, of great hungary, then that’s it, a lot of hungarians like it, well, how come , our prime minister thinks that hungary was great. and she had land and in ukraine, and in slovakia, and in romania, uh, and there somewhere else in the balkans, that is, well , that's great, he, he's a great patriot, he... he thinks about the times when hungary was

uh-huh, but now we were driven after the treaty of trianon, into these narrow borders, our diasporas abroad , persecuted, attacked, by the bad ukrainians, they want the hungarians, as they say, not to be ukrainian citizens of hungarian origin, but hungarians in in ukraine, they studied some incomprehensible ukrainian language, which is not necessary for them, and we will oppose this, and this it works, no matter what, playing on national sentiment, it is very competently used by orbán, and this has been happening for many, many years, yes, you are right, there are certain trends, although i do not draw conclusions based on one exit poll or ... even a few, unfortunately, this cannot yet be

a confirmation of some direction of movement, but it is a good sign that after all, even in hungarian society , they are beginning to think that the obstruction of hungary in the european union is bad for hungary itself, because that would mean trouble but for the populist horan, who you already see, has ruled the country for so many years, this is the least, the least threat, because he will pull out some populist things again and again , blame, blame brussels for behaving badly in relation to little hungary, that he puts forward conditions, that these conditions are unfair, that we have a crossroad of democracy, and this, brussels demands the impossible from us, you know, for a populist, any topic, it will be winning, if he only

wants to turn it in his direction, ah, populism orman, i think that today, well, how can he really be an example of this shameful phenomenon, which, unfortunately, still takes place in many european countries. mr. volodymyr, on november 11 in san francisco , the summit of asia-pacific economic cooperation is supposed to begin, and on the sidelines of this summit , a meeting between joseph biden and xijin ping is planned, well, at least announced. before the visit of the chinese leader to the united states of america, biden met with the minister of foreign affairs of china and the head of the office of the commission wang of the central committee of the chinese communist party in foreign affairs and many high-ranking american officials also discussed with the minister of foreign affairs

of the people's republic of china xi jinping's upcoming visit. the chinese ambiguously hinted and talked about the fact that the united states of america and china should take responsibility for the future of humanity and seriously talk about the future of the world, but in view of such serious maneuvers and beijing and washington tone, eh, is it already clear that the two leaders will come to some arrangements, because usually, the leaders of the two countries meet when there are already certain decisions, what kind of decisions they might be, decisions about the future of the world, about the future of humanity, well mr. sergey, it may be so, it may not be so, it may just be an exchange of opinions , this is also a normal diplomatic practice, when

managers give and start discussing even quite general things, it is not necessary, at the same time, they should already sign some ready-made document, because dialogue and face to face, this is very important in diplomacy, when you try understand that what your interlocutor actually wants from you, so i, quite frankly, hope for this meeting, because it seems to me that the americans want to agree with the chinese on a certain form of peaceful coexistence in the interests of both these two states and the world order, and god willing they would succeed, i think that would be the best outcome for us from such a meeting, why? well, because if they agree that peace must be maintained, that escalation must be avoided, that all

issues must be resolved at the negotiating table and to look for... mutually beneficial solutions, then this would mean that the condition of such an agreement should be china's pressure on russia, in order for it to stop its aggression in ukraine, china and the usa cannot agree on something, if one of china's allies , let's be absolutely honest about it, violates the foundations of international law in the most shameful way, and on the other hand, let's not forget that today russia has lost, well, its subjectivity in relations with china, today, china has transformed russia over the past year and a half in its economic litter, er, which no longer actually has the right to vote, er, because everything

that the russian, the russian economy... produces, and this is mainly, again, oil and gas, goes to china predominantly in this way, china actually monopolizes entire sectors of the russian economy, and in this way begins to dictate the conditions, so it is quite reasonable to expect that in the event that an agreement on this peaceful coexistence and mutually beneficial cooperation in the economic sphere is reached at the level of beijing - washington, then, we can expect certain positive changes in it and in the fact that china will start to put pressure on russia in the context of ending the war. i think that such an option would be the best for washington, beijing, and

kyiv. i really hope that we will hear soon, well, at least some positive signals, maybe it will not happen immediately, and so it is unlikely that anything can happen in one meeting, but if it happens, then the situation in the world and in general and for us will definitely begin to improve. thank you, mr. volodymyr, for this conversation there was a diplomat, a politician, volodymyr ogrysko, to new meetings. friends, we work live on the tv channel and also conduct. survey and i am asking you about whether corruption has decreased in ukraine since the beginning of the great war, there are two phone numbers, 0800 211-381 and 0800 211-382. please vote, now let's look at the intermediate results, because we will still vote in the second half of the program, which will start at 21:15, so no, 69%, 31% believe

that corruption has decreased in ukraine, don't switch. stay tuned to our channel, next, we have bbc news, then i will come back to you again, one month since the hamas attack on israel, when will the war end and what conclusions can be drawn a month later, we talk about this in today's issue of bbc news ukraine, olga polomeryuk works in the studio. pogroms, shelling, humanitarian crisis and evacuation, war with israel and hamas have already changed the middle east, analysts say. let's recall how it all began and what is happening in the region a month later. on october 7, exactly one month ago, the palestinian group hamas carried out an unprecedented attack on israel. militants