[000:00:00;00] ok, what a politician, he wants to present himself as a strong leader, but all the same, there is a hungarian society that also has different views, and there are also many ukrainians who left ukraine after the invasion, after february 24, they also went through hungary , is shared there, that is, i think that the beginning of negotiations on the eu, this will probably be a sign that ukraine is ready for further reform, that is, we say yes, we have fulfilled, the europeans say... well, you have fulfilled, but not completely, and therefore it turns out some kind of hybrid story, that is, which ones i was in brussels in june, and we were told by a high-ranking official, by the way, from estonia , who is responsible for the enlargement and the enlargement report, he said that you should carry out all this in full, not without the fact that there you offended hungary, and someone else , no, this is just a certain homework, you should take it as normal, plus, then they talked about

restoration, declaration, we have already done it, thank god, and therefore, that is, reformation - it should be such a boring, constant process for ukraine, but we turn it into this a certain political fart, that we don't like something, something is constantly demanded of us, and we want something else, the same story with peps, that is, it is purely a matter of communication, how the authorities explain to society why these reforms are needed, and if it is actually about these national minorities and about the issue of hungary in this case, we understand that it will be necessary to communicate with the hungarians somehow, negotiate somehow, seek a compromise, because if they say no, then we will not go any further, if any we did not carry out miraculous reforms there and if we had not raised the standard of living in ukraine is high, but is it necessary to work only with them, because the question is not only about them, but if there were no minorities, in

this case i am not talking about what is. we have a huge minority, for example, hungarian in this case in transcarpathia, and wouldn't it be appropriate to work with this community, with these people, so as to work, if they themselves are the leaders of this community, they are our citizens, transcarpathia says: god, get off the hook we are not needed, they say in the direction of budapest, not in the direction of kyiv, not always, not always, not always, they are very willing are cooperating, hungarian experts i know said the other day that each country should just make a mirror story. that the hungarians of transcarpathia can hang hungarian flags, as well as ukrainians who interfere in hungary, they also have the right to ukrainian schools in hungary, other points, that is, it must be that there will be a mutual appeasement, that there will be no such thing as only preference will be given to hungarians in ukraine, and ukrainians in hungary will receive nothing, that is, we

should not forget about the ukrainian diaspora there, which is also, and in principle, 80,000 ukrainians in hungary and 1,000 hungarians here, that is, in principle, these are the same numbers, and this applies to almost all neighbors, that is, we do not really know our neighbors, central europe, poland, slovakia, hungary and the czech republic are not neighbors, but still, that is, we have to learn more about each other, and when we will form this kind of central european identity of ours, that we have a common history there, the commonwealth of nations, many other points, then we will understand, what a story the same must remain in the past, we must think about the future , well, you understand, you are now speaking as a professional historian, that is , homo sapiens have the ability to read and be interested, they are unfortunately a minority, and in this case, the discourse and use of past history in the political dimension, left injuries rather than knowledge, and in this case, well, everyone is watching how their politicians act out

historical things. well, in the maps of the same our european integration, and no one will pay attention that, for example, the same political class of hungary broke money with all the neighbors, name me a country with which hungary does not have strained, relations, scandals, border and not only, well, if we, for example, compare hungarian lobbying in brussels and conventional german, then it is clear that these are two big differences, they say in odesa, that is, we also have to understand that, uh, yes, he himself is now looking for who he will be in the future, because he also understands that the chinese challenge is an economic one, and the eu also wants to become a more influential geopolitical player, and we it is necessary to work with each capital and say that it is a victory ukraine in the war started by russia, it can be different for each country, germany, france leadership in the european union, central europe more attention to this

region, that is, i don't know. the mediterranean, security in the issue of migrants is also possible , that is, we have to explain that suffering is a victory, that is, our partners must understand that they are providing weapons, financial. aid, humanitarian aid, and so on, that is , they must understand, er, how we ourselves see our victory in this war, because if we if we don't formulate it ourselves within the country and if we don't explain it to them individually for each country, then nothing will happen if we talk , well, there is definitely zelensky's peace formula, other points, but these are very general things, and they need specifics, that is, we have to say a pole ... what, what complicated relations with germany due to historical moments, there is almost no defense cooperation in them, we say to the poles, look, we will win, and it will also be security for poland, which

is the same, the kaliningrad region itself and the same there is a threat from russia, for germany it will also mean some moments of leadership in europe, because the germans themselves are not ready to take on such leadership functions in central europe, because there is also geopolitics there... europe , a few more points, that is, it is much more convenient for the germans to constantly argue with the french and somehow be leaders in the european union with them, so everything starts with communication, when we have a clear vision of what, to whom and why we say, then and accordingly attitude towards us, let us return to that geopolitical history, but to finish the question with our, minister stefanishina and her, vision, that is, it appears yesterday, you saw, yesterday there was a leak of information in one way or another with what we will hear from the european commissioners today, the president's optimism is charging society

, he recorded the video, stefanishchyna says, everything that was agreed upon was done, but not everything, and that's all, not everything, not here , not a question of half-full and half-empty, mud, yes, right there is a question of interpretation, it's when you call black white, well, in brussels. understand our unfulfilled certain parameters, c the people of brussels also clearly understand that the large number of problems we have, and the reforms, are for us to be better off, and not for someone in brussels to be better off, that we are making fun of them, obscuring them, and not solving them, i am talking about, for example, about the issue of political corruption, i am about the issue of violation of legislation and the constitution from the point of view of a parliamentary, presidential republic, you are already smiling at these... words, the truth is a parliamentary-presidential republic, yes, in poland it is a parliamentary-presidential republic, but in ours a little different, that's why in this whole case, brussels sees everything , so after that, as this report is released to us today, the question, from mr. erdoğan to

you, by 3850, will we start the procedure for joining the european union, or not? i think, let's start, i think that here, olga stefanichnyk, the vice-prime minister for euro-euro-atlantic... she just announces, avans tells you, that we will start negotiations with the eu in december, and what, and they will to last until the year 3850, and that we will start now, and this is now the main political goal for ukraine, because the candidate status, our rhetoric was that we got it there literally in four months, although the reforms were in the 14th year for the sake of justice and plus civil society contributed to filling out the questionnaire and many other points, and that is why the team actively works with civil society, which is so for the past year and a half, we have been monitoring the implementation of the seven recommendations of the european commission, that is, i think that there is still a certain clarity that we will start

negotiations in december, and it will be clear later, but we must do everything to reforms were a constant process, because without the fact that we do these reforms for ourselves, we do not have this understanding, well, not until the end, yes, yes, yes, because we have every team that comes, says, all the reforms that the previous team did, they did it wrong, now we will write you a plan on how to carry out reforms for the next 150 years, we will spend three years approving, one year preparing, and then the elections come and this team changes, and we are in this circle of idiocy, imitation of reforms, we are experiencing for 30 years, mrs. olga stefanishyna has worked on european integration, and for of the previous president, she will head the government... the office now she has become the vice prime minister, that is, in principle, there is a certain heredity, but there is a specific political moment, i think that this is generally an ideal option for us, what we say, our government says society

, that we will start negotiations in december, the european commission says that, yes, not everything has been done, but in general the quartet is so solid, that is, of course, that the europeans understand everything, but the europeans themselves are facing a difficult choice, that is, how to package all the balkans. us and maybe even turkey in one package, and for this they will say in december that we will start negotiations with ukraine and the republic of moldova, and georgia will become. will receive candidate status, that is, it will be as such, you know, a little bit of everything, because the european union , when it gave certain advantages there, for example, to the same balkans that received candidate status earlier, and then it was all like this, there was a stagnation with the same turkish, and now they understand that it is much better to work with everyone already, to avoid certain such, you know, selectiveness, so that then... everyone already understood that we are all working, and everyone, conditionally speaking, in different

conditions, that we are not singling out ukraine, albania, turkey, or anyone else there, ugh, let's go back, let's get to geopolitics, because we understand that brussels has a lot to say, but in addition to the hungarians, our very close neighbors, the poles, also immediately, in addition to the fact that they block our crossings at checkpoints and do not let our trucks through, by the way, they say that they really do not let them through today nothing, 100%, only public transport, i.e. passenger buses humanitarian transport is being missed and missed, that is, one must pay tribute here, they are keeping their word, now they say that it is time to dream about the eu, about joining the eu, until there is an agreement on exhumations in ukraine, so the question of volyn, the volyn tragedy remains, the second world , this is a very complex topic. or history in this

regard, it pushes us against each other, and when poles say that you should respect our heroes, we should also say, you should respect us, when poles celebrate army day in august in polish, not we must forget about general bezruchka, who also contributed to that, but they don't forget , look, they mention the miracle of the nadvislov at the ceremonies in warsaw, yes, that is, they mention our generals of the ukrainian people's republic, i'm talking about something else now. do you remember that oksana actually said about this that it was a long time ago, this question was not heard in ukrainian-polish relations, because the poles very clearly supported ukraine at the beginning of the invasion and this political history of the 20th century went somewhere far, far away , they postponed the question so that in the first place they tried to destroy what is the main thing, that is, the war, to help with the war, but they still declared that the war will end , you will win, then we will figure it out, but

the time has come to figure it out, because here a new question of our european integration has arisen, it is so just like the story with grain, i.e. there are still certain groups in poland who understand that ukraine can be a competitor for them, and the same poland had problems with france regarding agricultural products when poland itself joined the eu 20 years ago, i.e. here it is only necessary, me i think... just wait, that is, it is clear that for the poles our position regarding our history identity is somehow unacceptable, because if we say that this is our vision, we have such heroes, the poles say, no, for us these are not heroes, and you have to do, you have to fulfill our demands, only then we will allow you, it is a bit like blackmail, i think that anyway on such a domestic, everyday level , the poles support us, another question... that there are certain group, the same one, i.e. my polish

friends, they say yes, of course the biggest threat to us is the greater influence of the confederation, that they will be able to have more influence on people, in the villages, yes, the polish people, well, yes, the confederation is just playing out this theme of political history, and in a one-sided interpretation with a sufficiently high degree of ukrainophobia, well, in this case, look , we need to have some universal... formula for our european integration, because the examples mentioned to you of the balkans, they also do not provide answers to some questions, if these questions were answered by the borderless space of the schengen area, that is it gave a solution to more historical and political issues than all other negotiations, for example, slovenia, italy , and there, in addition to trieste, a separate zone in which the communists, fascists and american

allies fought, and there is another city like that , which is one of the historical cities of slovenia, e.e. gorica, which became gorizia, and its border divided it, and it is as if the european union, and on the other side of the border, a large slovenian community, and they were squeezed in the sense that there is a school in the slovenian language was forbidden, at a time when there was an italian community on the territory of slovenia had everything arbitrary bilingual status in the cities of piran, portorosh and so on, schooling, even the sphere of service in, let's say, resort cities, and they could not do anything within the framework of european integration, until the borders simply collapsed, until the border turned into an imaginary place , where there are two plates, slovenia and italy, and that's the only way it evened out. in our case, why wait for certain solutions to issues with the same hungarians or with the poles until the moment when our borders collapse and there will be just a transparent interior, or

are there any, any platforms that will deliver? i think that the main key for the european integration of ukraine is the historical reconciliation of ukraine and poland, the same as france and germany, because france, the french and the germans fought from the time of the collapse of the empire of charlemagne until the second world war, and i have many friends, whose mother is french, father is german, i ask them, and who are you in terms of identity, i am still, for example, french, yes there, that is, when, for example, francois minterand and helmut kohl stood at verdun and it was there for i don't know 40 years after the end of the world war and i think that france and germany is an example of a long confrontation, still despite a lot of blood and injuries and many other things and for slotorings , many other points, they found this understanding among themselves, and when ukrainians and poles

reconcile, regarding issues of history, many other points, this will be the key to our european integration and also... to the emergence of a central european identity, because without our european integration will not be successful, because whether we want it or not, poland is the leader of central europe, and although the visegrad format is already so half-dead, it is still because of hungary, but i think that poland remains an influence for others countries, the same czech republic, slovakia, the baltic states, that is... through the poles, that is, it will no longer be such an approach that poland is our lawyer, no, and what happened in 14th year, what we said with the poles, in we had a confrontation there, others there, volyn, the first

world, there is the november disruption, the second world war, the vistula action, everything, we are everything, not that we forget, but we say it all, that it was, but we are moving on, that is, france and germany are the same, that is, the very idea of ​​the european integration, it became possible due to the appeasement of france and germany, because , after the second world war, they understood that there was no need for such horrors and all these stories there, jean-monet, many other politicians, that is, the same adenauer, he remembered all these times, and he remembered the first world war and the second world war there world, and i think that they have already reached such a point that further. nowhere, and the russian-ukrainian war, precisely the russian threat, it united the poles and the ukrainians, because the poles understood that, er, the ukrainians are fighting for the freedom of all europeans, and that is why these disputes should be stopped, that is

, i think that it will be possible, but here we need to understand that it is worth working with different poles in the same way, there are liberal poles, yes, who can say, well, we have to wait for the new government, first of all, and we were told this process until the new year more will continue there will be a new government and it will be possible to work, in the end we can talk about europe a lot, a lot, but there is also the issue of america and, unfortunately, not everything is so smooth, either because they are preparing for their elections or because of other some processes have already started there, well, it's not cool, it's not cool and, oh help, they're blocking it. aid to ukraine, although, yes, it looks like there is light at the end of the tunnel, because now, democrats, democratic senators have blocked the republican proposal to give israel aid without ukraine separately package, the democrats have their proposal, how to somehow do it so that it would be beautiful, and

the question is also whether this story will not come to a dead end, i think that we should prepare for that and revise the possible options. the usa will provide less aid in this general equivalent, but at the same time, there will be greater coordination with the europeans , because the usa will remain a key partner of ukraine, but they have started a presidential campaign, elections next year, and whether we like it or not, that's all. ukraine will be the same is present in these elections, and our task is precisely to work with various groups within both republicans and democrats and do everything possible so that we are open to the united states, this is also a question for us, what we say, look, the united states is helping us, and with this help, we are choosing freedom in the civilized world, and in the same way for the usa

, they must also understand that for them it is the endgame, that is , it is clear for them that the main threat is china, and this was officially stated by national security advisor sullivan in his article forf at the beginning of october that is why we need to work with allies who may not have the same values ​​as ours there , for example, saudi arabia. other points, but we have to explain to the usa that what is happening in ukraine, what is happening in israel, taiwan, er, many other points, it is all connected, but they do not want to realize it yet, they they understand it, but they divide it all , the yin issue, i will clarify briefly, is so weighty and essential that it

can have an impact on... the main candidates, is the ukrainian issue really important, it will be one of the important ones, that’s for sure, because the same supporters of trump, they, they believe that here in ukraine, i don’t know, aid is being stolen everywhere, and this is very it's clear that i don't know, there for a conditional truck driver in the usa, to say there, well, you see, it's the ukrainians, they can't win in any way. and how much help we give them, everything and nothing can be seen to no end, that is, the ukrainian issue, it has already become political in the usa, and our task just make it so, you know, constructive that ukraine's victory in the war started by russia will become the main security issue for the usa itself, and i, in continuation of the oksana issue, see how we can do it if we have to deal with the realities . look, there are all chances that 50 to 50, and maybe even trump, even despite all the criminal cases against him and so on,

and all these storms in washington, he can become the president of the united states. and in this case, we have to understand that his voter is already spied on by conspiracies and russian theses, well, it is enough to read the great modern politician elon musk, the one who sleeps and sees himself in politics, a child of the party. what redneck lives and we know what trump lives, you understand, trump who thanks the president of turkey orban, we understand his level, and he must have read mendelel's book on geography, i am about julia mendelel, because yesterday he spoke about the hungarian-russian border, well, i don't know if trump spent a long time looking for him on the map, where is the border between hungary and russia, but we understand who we can deal with, how we can then to influence him, they saw this invitation by zelensky and trump.

goes, i explain everything to him in 24 minutes that you will not stop the war israel in communication, it's that israel shows stories of ordinary soldiers and the us sees that these soldiers are fighting and they are heroic and all that, so i...' i think that we have few such stories that could touch americans that it is not there are stories about top military men, and these are stories about ordinary people, an aitichnik who went to fight, and it will be clear to them that a man worked as an aitichnik and then went to defend his state, for them you will advance this story, yehor, look, of israeli history is very easy to promote through the israeli lobby of american citizens of jewish origin, they are supported, they are allies, it is easy for them to promote it, how will we promote it, for example, under trump the second? i

think the same, but you have to understand that republicans are also different, and those people who are supporters of trump, they are also part of republicans, that is, we can have this idea that republicans and democrats, they are somehow united, no, nothing like that, that is, i i think that the americans should understand that we are fighting that. what they have forgotten is that when americans see the ukrainian military singing the american national anthem it breaks their hearts and i think that might be the key to it and plus, as an international journalist i understand that we need to better study public opinion about ukraine in the usa and russian propaganda, that is, not just understand what is being written there, thank you, unfortunately, time is running out. yehor brailyan, candidate of historical sciences and international columnist was with us, roman and i also have to say goodbye, unfortunately, we wish

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