[000:00:00;00] on all fronts, both from the president's line, from the parliament's line, from the government's line, from the mfa's line, from the special services' line, and so on, by the way, mr. volodymyr, volodymyr zelenskyi, in an interview with nbc news, invited trump to ukraine and said that he will explain to donald trump in 24 minutes that it is impossible to agree with putin on ending the war between the russian federation and ukraine, let's hear what zelensky said. what can i say, we 'll be happy to welcome him as well, president biden has been here before, and i think he understood some of the things that in my opinion, you can only understand by being here , it will take me no more than 24 minutes to explain to president trump that he cannot do anything about this war, bring peace through putin, if there is always

an if, unless he tries and is not ready with... well, trump already reacted in an interview with tv channel, he said that i have great respect for zelensky, but i think it would be inappropriate to go to ukraine at this time, now the biden administration is dealing with him and would not like to create a conflict interests, well, this is how trump answered diplomatically, but in your opinion, mr. volodymyr, given your extensive diplomatic experience, should you issue public... challenges to a person who has a fairly high chance of returning to the presidential chair, i think he should , because you have to place the dots of hope, you can't let goals into your own goal, when you can answer, answer in the same way, delicately, diplomatically, all proposals, in fact, nothing that can be

felt as a challenge. there was no, you want to know something, please, we open the door, come, see, evaluate, er, understand what is happening, er, and then we will talk , so, well, after the fact that practically all the leaders of all civilized countries have come to ukraine, well, i don't know, of course there, maybe some remained, but this is the vast majority of individual countries and, say, the european union, nato and so on, and so on , there is nothing extraordinary or bad in this invitation, he is the leader of the opposition, in a democratic system, it is absolutely normal when they communicate and with the government, and with the opposition, and no one in the biden administration would have become, i think, jealous if trump had come, but he found a diplomatic

way to avoid it, realizing that it would be disadvantageous for him, because then he would have to explain to the americans, and what did you see there, and lie, uh, come on yeah, you know, frankly and brazenly, he probably wouldn't be able to, so he found a formula to not come, but i think it was the right move on our part to be more careful in his statements, because uh, when if such populist statements are made about 24 hours and the solution of all problems, then they are necessary really, exactly respond, i think this response was adequate. mr. volodymyr , what trump declares and says, well, he talks quite a lot about the need to find a compromise with the russian federation and end this war, in

the western press. there was information that the european union allegedly began to discuss possible negotiations with kyiv from the russian federation, an anonymous eu diplomat in brussels, who is now referred to by the mass media, says that the european union denies the beginning of such discussions, that there are no such discussions regarding ukraine's possible negotiations with russia , mrs. ursula funderlein, the president of the european commission , spoke out against... the frozen conflict in ukraine, let's listen to what she said , first of all, our goal should be a just and lasting peace, not another frozen conflict, no one wants peace more than ukrainians. secondly, ukraine needs long-term security, we must provide a stable military force capable of

protecting ukraine now. and deter russian aggression in the future so that history did not repeat itself. thirdly, the best way to ensure stability and prosperity in ukraine in the medium and long term. perspective is membership in the european union, so that ukraine will recover, europe is the answer, to further change ukrainian democracy, europe is the answer, to protect ukraine from future interventions, again, europe is the answer, well, as the ancients once said, if you want peace, prepare for war, well, when i listened to the president of the european commission, i thought about this. which is obviously a guarantee of future peace and on the european continent must have a fairly strong european community armed, because there is an inadequate neighbor living nearby who can at

any moment do something or do something to the europeans. by the way, the minister of defense of germany pistorius says that the probability that there may be a war on the european continent, the risk of starting such a war is quite large. what do you say about this, given what the europeans are saying and what european diplomats are saying in private conversations with you? well, look, mr. sergey, i would like to to react to the formula that kyiv is conducting some sinister negotiations there, well, let's analyze it using the example of this same shuster who wrote the article, he came to kyiv, flirted with some unnamed advisers, and at the same time, in his second, so to speak, transfer to this topic, he said that it was the current advisors, not the former, because everyone immediately thought of one

very smart ex-advisor, so shuster confirmed that it was not him, but that it was the current ones, and here he is based on such information, well, he spoke in kyiv, he i also spoke with people who are close to the president and probably belong to his cabinet, that here in kyiv, such and such processes have begun, and the question is whether these statements of unnamed advisers reflect the official position of kyiv. yes, obviously not, by the way, i talked about it and i repeat it, once again, we finally need to adopt in ukraine... a legislative act on the powers of the office of the president, whatever it is called, administration, secretariat, office,

as , whatever, because we can't go on a situation where uh, uh, an authority that has no legal basis, standing on, it is not known why, on some possible directives, uh, doing things that can...' in fact, as we now see, uh- er, very seriously, negatively influence the international image of ukraine. therefore, here i think that it is necessary to clearly prescribe the powers and responsibility for the violation of these powers, otherwise we will repeat all those things that have already happened, by the way, in our history, these are not long-term and what we have today. i repeat once more, if a person who works for the head of state, works in the government, works in this or that ministry, and she does not agree with the line pursued by the ukrainian state, she has a simple way out,

she writes a statement and leaves this state service, in a different way doesn't work, that's why i think that here we still have a lot to do, we have to go this way, and in relation to, well , those things that, well, we are now observing in the context that you are talking about, so it seems to me, well, we, well, we should, a little bit, not be so...reactive, i would say so, uh, we should not take any statement of an unnamed european diplomat or even a named political figure as

the position of the european commission or the european council or the nato council and so on, for this there are official persons who express an official real opinion. therefore, let's not, as they say, react too quickly to certain statements, no matter how much we would like to make them ... sensational, because very often they can be just real slips from the side of moscow, regarding the statement of the german minister of defense pistorius, regarding the threat of global war increasing, i would say yes , it will decrease significantly if the german taurus, as quickly as possible... arrive in ukraine, and

if ukraine gets everything it needs, not to deter the enemy , and in order to defeat him, but here we return again and again to this formula, we will be with you as long as it is necessary, but we do not have the decipherment of how much is necessary and what it means, so i think that very an important task of ours. on all levels, i'm here i understand the concept of diplomacy in a broad sense, not only the work of the ministry of foreign affairs, is to prove to our western partners that it is in their national interests to defeat the putin regime, that there will be completely different circumstances that will be beneficial for the west, because then it will

to dictate what will happen in this post-russian space, and not the other way around, but so far this is mission impossible, our western liberal colleagues are afraid to even begin to think about it, to do something, my contacts, in particular, recently with the americans talk about the fact that they don't even want to talk about it, unfortunately, uh, the time will come and they will have to talk, i still hope for it, friends, we are working live on tv channel and also on our platforms in on youtube and on facebook, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube , please like this video, don't be stingy to promote this video in youtube trends, and take part in our survey, we also conduct it on youtube , and on tv, on youtube and on tv, it sounds like this. did it become is there less corruption in ukraine after the start of the great

war? yes, no, uh, you see phone numbers on the screen that you can call and answer, so if you think corruption has increased, in your opinion, during the war, uh, call the phone number 0800-21381 , if not, 0800 211-382, well, on the youtube channel, it's quite simple, no, there are two... ticks, or if you have an opinion, please leave it, these comments under this video, and now we have interim results, hopefully we'll see them on screen now, so at this moment, 69% said that corruption did not become less during the war, 31%, that is , a third said that corruption became less during the war.

then we continue our conversation with volodymyr ogrysk, a politician, diplomat and minister of foreign affairs in 2007-9, why exactly we, mr. volodymyr, ask our viewers about corruption, because corruption is one of the main issues and probably the main claim of western leaders and there are no western institutions, including european ones, which do not sufficiently fight corruption shifts with appointments in nabu, we are talking about the new head of the specialized anti-corruption prosecutor's office and the director of nabu, well, at least such claims are written in a european commission document, an internal document of the european commission, which was made public today by radio liberty, because it is about the conclusion, the resolution of the european commission regarding the negotiations on the accession of ukraine to the european union. obviously, tomorrow will be. document, as far as i understand, according

to the information that our colleagues from radio liberty made public, four of the seven steps performed, well, that is, a little more than half of what is necessary, which means the constant emphasis of our western colleagues on the topic of corruption, although, well, the head of the administration, or at least the office of the president of ukraine, andriy yermak, in an interview with the politician said about the fact that in reality we do not have such a high level of corruption, especially since we are at war and during the war we are still carrying out reforms. therefore , it is absolutely unclear why such criticisms are directed at the current ukrainian leadership and the ukrainian state, what do you say about about this point, because it is such a strong enough argument for

western politicians who oppose the current authorities in the west to say, well, listen, you will give them money or weapons, and there is already corruption, it's simply terrible. it is not clear what to do with it then , well, you know, mr. serhiy, i was listening to your introduction to this question and for some reason i remembered the 90s, when i started working in the administration of president kuchma, and even then we dismissed this corruption as the main, prerequisite for the fact that it is not european, we will not have euro-atlantic integration, and what should be done about it. sometimes the president jokingly said, dear friends, the word corruption is not of ukrainian origin, so delicately hinting, look at yourself in the mirror, you also have something there, and that was also true, well, i think that it is not necessary

to go far now to to mention the corruption scandals that constantly arise in european countries, he asked. the question is the scale of this shameful phenomenon, you took off on some private plane on personal business, and at the same time, some friend was there and so further, please, this is not tolerated in the european union and you are resigning, the journalists unearthed some fried fact that you sent your wife or children somewhere on vacation, with someone's money, some... firm and so on, please put the mandate of the minister on the table and go about your other business. that is, corruption actually exists, but we are talking here about the scale of this phenomenon. unfortunately, we have it

really, so far, and let 's be honest, although the shifts are huge, although the shifts are colossal. in my opinion, and we are now we are significantly different from ukraine, let's say there, in the 90s, zero years, even , in the middle of the last decade, a lot has been done, but unfortunately not so much to say that we are done with this phenomenon, well, i'm sorry if the head of the supreme court of ukraine takes bribes of millions... in dollars, well, this is the answer to what is happening in our country, in particular in the judicial system, it is so good that he was caught, it is good that he will now be responsible for all this, well, but what did we

forget, let's say, customs affairs, we forgot about cases that concern some other aspects of the economy, well, purchases, in particular purchases of weapons, or property, i wanted to say something else, mr. serhiy, even about the fact that the basis of a market economy is competition in general, and if we see , that some are in chocolate and others are not allowed, and this competition, well, begins to break and limp on all four legs, then this means that gray areas are created, which are used by dishonest people in order to get rich, and this is also corruption , why, through this court system, when even

caught corrupt people, they are released from responsibility after a few years, because the terms of the review have passed. to these cases, and they are delaying these cases in all sorts of ways, so that later they can be released from the court and so on, and so on, that is, unfortunately, there is a topic, and now the european commission will once again emphasize that progress has been made, progress is tangible, but do please a few more steps to get this, this... off the agenda, we don't need naboo's head, we don't need to finish all the things that relate to the appointment of judges there in all these bodies, which have already spawned many, but which continue , unfortunately, sometimes, in the same practice that was

up to now, that is, well, at least formally it is necessary to fulfill those things in order to remove this issue from the agenda, but this does not mean at all that after removing them, even, we should calm down and understand that everything is fine, everything is fine with us, well, unfortunately, starting from domestic corruption and ending. .. high and great, to us even before this shameful, practice is still, unfortunately, very, very far away, and it is true. the european commission intends to recommend to the countries of the european union to start negotiations with ukraine on joining the european union, but after the implementation of a number of reforms, at the same time, information appeared that the same hungary will block negotiations with ukraine on joining the eu, this was stated by a political director of hungarian prime minister orban. hungarians

demand that ukraine cancel the law that obliges minorities to receive at least 70% of education in the ukrainian language. minister of foreign affairs of ukrainian affairs, dmytro kuleba reacted to hungary's intention to block negotiations on ukraine's accession to the european union. let's listen to what mr. kuleba said. in the question. the worlds of national minorities, as far as the blocking is concerned, well, here i think it is no secret for anyone that the issue of national minorities is fundamentally promoted by hungary and precisely in the hungarian vision, but you know, let's worry about the problems as they arise, i emphasize once again that at the moment we see that we are going to december, for a decision on the decision of the european council to open negotiations

regarding ukraine's membership in the european union. the titanic work has been done, the political balances in the european union have been formed, but each country will certainly try to play out this situation in one way or another. every country, well, in this case, maybe mr. kuleba diplomatically avoided mentioning one country, slovakia, because fico came to power there and the prime minister, who is pro-russian, he always was in the previous term, and now , there is orban, that is, at least two states that will be to do everything in order to... slow down ukraine's movement towards the european union, or even openly play along with moscow, expecting

some kind of putin's support or putin's thanks, well, if we are talking about orban, in what way, mr. volodymyr, ukraine can avoid these european reefs, well, at least in the form of two states of slovakia and hungary, well, you see, mr. serhiu, i think that slovakia is a less complicated case. for one simple reason, fizo is not the sole ruler, so to speak, of this country, because he leads coalition government, and no matter what, it needs to coordinate all its steps with its coalition partners, and i think that not all of them will want to be branded as moscow's underlings, moscow's lackeys and so on and so forth, so with him the situation... it will be difficult, but, no, well, no, no, not without

a way out, that is, it will always be possible to find certain ways of solving certain issues, and by the way, these are his first statements that we are not we will provide defense assistance to ukraine, you see, now it has transformed into what, if any company, wants to sell weapons to ukraine, that is its business, and the government's. it will not interfere, well yes, sorry, this is a completely different approach, in the end, we will find opportunities to acquire those weapons that we really, from slovakia, would very much need, in the case of orben, unfortunately, we have a continuation of this absolutely of the pro-moscow destructive line , and i don't think that even after satisfying one, one wish, budepest,

a second one will not appear tomorrow, and then a third, and then. and then the 25th, this is the line, here already the question is no, no, in fact, it’s not that ukrainian citizens of hungarian origin should not learn the ukrainian language, i don’t know , i don’t have statistics at hand right now, i ’ll take care of it, i’m just wondering if there are countries where the national, where representatives of national minorities do not study the state language, but i just...' now it's really interesting, i'm looking for such data and just later, maybe next time we can discuss this issue as well, this is complete absurdity, that is, hungary wants to create in ukraine, a hungarian enclave, which would actually was managed from budapest, well, it does not fit into

any gate, let the tamtsia commission tell. about commas and dots in the matter where something needs to be done, but cannot, another country dictates to ukraine how we should arrange our ukrainian home, there are relevant international conventions, we do not violate them, we go, so to speak, together with by all those european countries that have the same national minorities, i think that our diplomats, including those who are engaged in this direction, should really look for examples of such an approach in europe, i i think that we are unlikely to find them, and it is precisely with this that we go to brussels and show with concrete

examples that what orbán is doing really harms the european union itself, although, i will tell you frankly, everyone has understood this for a long time, and ee in my opinion, there is no sensation in this, they will now think about reforming the european union, it is already becoming a topic, not even a rumor, already a practical discussion, by the way, it will also be a certain challenge for us, because we will enter ... most likely to a different european union than the one that exists today, eh, but as part of this reform, the rules, procedures, decision-making rules will certainly be changed, and after that , comrade orman will probably have to go to moscow for money, and there he will publicly open his suitcase and fill it with russian

in rubles or, i don’t know what, and to return to hungary and tell that this is bad brussels, it is actually worse than the occupation of the former soviet union, but the good putin gave us a little more, er, free or not very expensive natural gas . er, unfortunately, for now the moment the european union can only reduce payments from european funds for needs. hungary, but you see, budapest is simply blackmailing the eu by demanding billions in exchange for 500 million, which, again , it blocked, on a false pretext, the pretext of what ukraine called the hungarian bank a sponsor of terrorism, well, if you work, during the war in the country

of the aggressors, the question is, who are you sponsoring, unless... terrorists, but such logic for mr. orbán is higher mathematics, well, you know, sir volodymyr, apparently orban will not be traveling to moscow for so long, because the sociology conducted by the budapest institute of sociology was published, he conducted a survey and asked hungarians how they feel about the meeting between orban and putin in pokin on october 17, when the forum was held belt, one road and what is written by the hungarian media about the fact that in response to 50, in response to whether they support this meeting or not , 52% of respondents said that they find the meeting between orbán and putin unacceptable, i.e. 52% of hungarians, 35% regarded it as completely normal, and 13%

could not give it an assessment, well, that is, when 35, 13.