[000:00:00;00] find your way somehow, because ukraine is actually a missile state, we have our own control systems, including cruise missiles, but the issue is that simpler, cheaper things receive the support of the state and people can use them, our fighters can use them literally there at the level of uh, a few, a few fighters, because that is the logic of our actions today, the reb systems must be very compact, quite powerful and have a slightly different technological origin than the russian one, so that we do not fight the same way that the russians fight, they fight with chinese systems, that is, the technology has reached such a level, then

it will shift from this positional war, because the russian systems will not have advantages in this case, but we must understand that and from that side they think in the same way, and they are also trying to make their management systems more protected from ukrainian rept, but how to overcome it today is a question for scientists, and this is the system where the focus should be , efforts the state to support ukrainian private manufacturers, namely, communication and control systems, that is, compact things that should be, there can be mass-produced under the auspices of the state and already given to private manufacturers, that is, to concentrate the state's efforts on this technical field, and can get, ask something from our partners in the west, some developments, then all this should be

in the hands of private... producers and it will be fair and right, regarding also urgent issues, this is the issue of demining, i know that again, these are private initiatives of many volunteers, who are currently working on systems, demining, including the use of artificial intelligence, and all these things, they will eventually change the situation, on the one hand, and on the other hand, before people met with such a density of mining and with such a number of drones that are simply printed on 3d printers and fly, er, this is a war of drones, that is, these are new challenges of the modern world, and in fact there the naval drones drove there for, their harbored naval drones there drove back the russian black sea fleet, that is,

this is a completely new war. this is not a war of great troughs, but this is a war of intelligence, this is already a war of technology, this is a war of the 21st century, for something completely different, but look, there is another aspect of this history, well, in principle, valery zaluzhny pointed out that now it is difficult to concentrate forces imperceptibly, because the front can be seen quite well, both from the russian side and, in principle, from ours, it was noticeable when the ukrainian offensive was attempted in the zaporozhye direction, well, the impression of armored vehicles was quite massive, and the story itself happened near avdiivka, when hundreds of russian armored vehicles were simply burned, precisely because it was very visible that they were moving, but all this, tell me, somehow

means that - in general, the use of tanks, in this situation by the military, it is leveled and does not make much sense, is it somehow, or at all, should we consider that the use of tanks does not have such an effect, as they could expect , all the tank breakthroughs or what is it, we need to approach this as well, change this concept, or what? well, russian generals, they fight like how they were taught, they were taught according to the combat statutes, there in the 40s, 50s, 60s, where they planned a large number, there are tanks, tanks, tanks, tanks and so on, now everything has changed, they already don't know what to do, and they act as they are written in the statutes of war, that's why they do this , because if they act as they are written in the statutes of war, then regardless of the number of casualties, they have no problem

with prosecutor's office, that's why they work as it was, we don't have such opportunities, here there aren't these, there, tank guns that they have, but we have a sufficient number. thanks to our partners, there is a sufficient number of anti-tank weapons, and in this form, in fact , the meaning is lost, these tank guns , what, how they go, but eh, you and i understand that there is no sense in this, and on the other hand, they act, well, with a completely different logic, well, not with human logic, that is, there the logic is as follows, there the commander makes a decision, he must make a decision, as it is written: because of the combat statute, because if he accepts it somehow differently, then he will act, against him the prosecutor's office should act, that's why they write, as in the textbook, a tank with a trawl is in front, a dozen tanks are behind and they are destroyed, and they

absolutely do not care that there is no result, we talked about this with you, for them the result is the process itself, how is it with them, i will try to translate it from russian right now, it probably cannot be translated, because they used to say this: nonsense, war, most importantly maneuver, they maneuver as they were taught, that is, their logic is like this, and in this sense a large number of tanks for them is what is written in the textbook, they will be to act like that, but from a human point of view, it’s absolutely nonsense, ugh, nevertheless , we have what we have, we also have now that we have a commercial break, let’s take a short break, actually in the second half we will talk specifically about the different directions where the fighting is taking place, so the commercial

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is happening in our front line right now, well, not only in the area of ​​avdiyivka, the russians are trying to attack, we can see that in recent days there were reports that the russians were trying to attack near the coal mine, they tried, er, near staromarsky, in my opinion, if i am not mistaken, well, this is already the zaporozhye direction, and actually the kupyan direction also became more active, er, what... this shows for us that it is now, well, some kind of a bigger offensive by the russians, the russians, actually, they have now used these accumulated assets, or whatever your strength, how do you generally assess this situation, the general, well, the general situation on today, it is characterized by the fact that the russians have opened a rather powerful front , in the far... in the near east, that is

, this situation cannot be separated from the war in ukraine, because the enemy is one and the systems that work against us, they too, let's say this , combined with what is happening in uh , the land of israel, that is, that situation, it will still have an impact, a rather large impact on the situation in europe and in other countries. this is a situation that the russians have been preparing for quite a long time, that is, literally, it could for some years, maybe at least 10, and they were preparing not only an attack on israel, but they were preparing, it is clear, it is clear that the war in ukraine, and at the same time they were preparing this, the southern front for us, let's say this, it played a big role, plays a role on... to

date quite large, why? because first of all, we, our partners, they understood that the russians were preparing a second front in the middle east, that is, in israel, they had to set fire to the middle east, and they tried to keep it somehow, and one of the options to keep putin from for him to start the war in israel, it was not the transfer to ukraine of certain types of weapons, more powerful types of weapons, that is, it was such a restraining factor, as an option on the negotiating table, maybe not open negotiations, but it was so, but putin went further, he started a war in the far, near east, and thus, this restraining factor, it has ceased to exist and we will be given more weapons, a greater number and greater, well, more technologies.

i will stick a weapon, that is, this is my personal opinion, you can argue with it there, but i think that that's how it was, and that's why today, this discovery, the path of the war in the middle east, it freed the hands of our partners and, moreover, stimulates them to give ukraine more weapons and more technological weapons, so that we can destroy a greater number of russians, because in the end the logic of actions, it is governed from moscow, and moscow acts according to the principle that lenin articulated , he said then that as long as we interfere with everything, we will be reckoned with, and they are not trying to do something good, they trying to do something to interfere all in order to be reckoned with, that is,

the logic of an ordinary terrorist, the logic of the russians. and today they will try not even to win there in some areas , but firstly to hold all areas and work to exhaust ukraine, and on the other hand, from the other side, or from one more side, they will try to start a fire all over europe and possibly the united states of america, and this fire will be approximately, that is, the logic of their actions is such that after israel defeats hamas there and they will try to set fire discontent about the palestinian forces all over the world, that is, their unimaginable logic in order to stay as much more in power, well, what can we oppose to this crazy trick of the kremlin, well, what can we work on, first of all, in the ideological plan, the plan

, that is, to understand that we know what they want, that is, to keep people simply in the competence, that is, people understood that what the kremlin is doing, why it is doing so, er , for what, not to do someone good, but for to keep your personal power, that's all they want, there's nothing else here, especially in the context of such global events. as they do, we have to understand that they will throw their forces in the amount they are demobilizing, that is , 1,000 men were demobilized there, they immediately throw them there to the front there without preparation, without anything, but they will die sooner, they will send fresh ones, they will not bother about which directions they will go, where they will reach, they cannot now reach the south of the kherson region, logistical problems have arisen there, because there are three roads

that's all there is, it's the dzhenkoy and chongar trench, the trench, chongar and the land corridor, which is also already being shot at, and accordingly, they will try to curtail operations in the southern direction and intensify operations in the eastern direction more and will prepare to hold the crimea, what they will do, well, we see that this is how it actually happens, well, in my opinion, we are right now, you know, we are in a rather, you know, such a difficult moment, precisely because the russians definitely prepared for this story . which happened in israel, well they were definitely preparing for it, and they, in sync with it, threw in additional forces to show that we are going somewhere on the offensive in ukraine, and it seems to me that it is very important for us to hold back, this, this

offensive attempt of theirs and not to give up our positions, because this will also be used in the first place to try to show that there is a need for some kind of negotiations, again to start talking about the fact that there is no point in helping ukraine, and so on and so forth, and precisely with this in mind, for what we need it is necessary to hold our positions now, which can be important here, well, that is, whether to strengthen these positions themselves, to equip them there, well, more in terms of engineering. so directly, directly, to deal with the equipment of engineering positions, or saturate them with people, or saturate them, roughly speaking , with mortars, because right now i do not see a more important issue on the battlefield than to hold this or that attempt, this offensive, because it has definitely

it has an important political goal, and can actually play an important political role? well, look, here's the situation enough simple in fact, the russians, they are fighting for the territory, regardless of the number of people who will die in this territory, bahmud is an example, but we cannot afford it, because for us the most important thing is our people, and the territory, well, for example, whether or not to surrender bakhmut there, i’m sorry, they put 5,000 of their personnel on bakhmut, that’s what they are doing now near the avdivka, the 40,000 they still have, they will put them now, but for them, taking the avdivka there will be a very big political achievement, from kyiv to three in three days, before bakhmut in nine months, this is their logic, will they take avdiyivka, well, there is a sufficiently fortified

engineering, there is a plant there, that is, it is actually a fortress, a big fortress. uh, how many people will they put there, well, i don't know, but they can, well, if even our people there, in six months or nine months, they leave avdiyivka so as not to fall into the cauldron and keep the personnel, then it will be justified if indicated from a global point of view, because it will bring victory in general, we must not win a certain tactical battle, and win this war, and the war will be won when enough personnel are destroyed in russia that they say enough is enough , we don't want to fight anymore, let putin go, now we are seeing good footage, in fact , i'm sorry, i'll interrupt you, it seems to me that this expectation, well, it didn't come true one year and it won't come true

next year, that there will be some amount of losses for them, well, well, it doesn't come true. you know, they have to put 50, they put 50, 100 - 100, 200 - 200, no one will stupidly notice these losses on the scale of russia, because they will not be talked about, and their population will simply stupidly not know about it, well, this is objective, they do not have any, well, alternative sources of information, they are completely closed, they see exactly what their television tells them, and this must be... absolutely clearly understood, so we hope that any russian losses will be essential for them, will not be significant, we just need to do everything so that they could not apply them. and for

them to be quickly disposed of on the battlefield, this is important, first of all, and yes, this is defensive fortifications, this is the saturation of the front, well, actually with a killing force that simply does not allow them to advance, that's all, here, well, there is no other option, to hope that they will not suddenly go to another attack, because they don't want to, no , it won't happen, they will be chased, in the end, well, first of all, yes, sometimes it happens, they refuse, some happen, they send others, those who, who, who don't want, are stupidly shot , and it has already happened several times, and it happened, and it happened more than once in the history of the russian federation in muscovy, that's how it was during world war ii, but at that time they won only because of the support of the united states of america, great britain, that is, the more technologically advanced countries, even that large number. the pogo composition that they had at that time, in the soviet union, it did not allow to win such

a large-scale war, we see, for example, in the same israel, this is a war, it is on the territory of one city, ukrainian, and in our a war on a front more than a thousand kilometers away, that is, it is a different logic, a completely different logic of events, and the destruction of the personnel of russians, it... leads to economic losses of the general system of the general economy of russia, because it is destroyed, not just soldiers there, some unknowns, but this is the labor force, this, the employees of enterprises, these are part-time workers, the managers of which are some firms and so on, that is, all of this together is complex, it destroys the economy of russia, and all this is happening in our country under amirka, under bakhmut. and so on, that is, not only does propaganda work there, but the refrigerator also works, and

they do not add to the two hundred who come to the territory of russia patriotism to people, they are such informational messages that there is no need to go here to ukraine, and this is happening , it is real, that is, people are being bombarded, clearly, it is clear, there were whole institutions working for this, several egological institutions, which work for information war , this is happening, for real, yes, you are right, but there is a moment, one day it will happen, the transition from quantitative to qualitative indicators will take place, it is well described in a book, a small book by volodymyr lefer, which is called algebra of conscience, you can google it, find this book, because even an introduction to it is enough to understand the processes that will... take place in muscovy, why i pay attention to this book, because it was by such methods

that the soviet union was demolished in its time, and it works, it happened for 70 years, you you understand, and we have now, well, in principle , the most objectively difficult process for us right now is this time, a few months before the next re-election of putin, we absolutely understand that this is such a political important for them. date and that there are enough of them now they will, they have concentrated these efforts and they will make these efforts in order to achieve some, well, political goals in these few months, which, well, what political forces exist in russia, well, what are we talking about, there is no other, for example, the freezing of the war, the freezing of this front line that exists now, for them, this is quite a , i would say, a desirable political goal that they are now striving for, but this is an external political goal, it is not an internal political

goal that we are talking about say when we talk about election. when we talk about the elections in russia, there is only one goal, to show popular support for the citizens of putin and his team , and to stay in power for many more years, that's all, there is no other goal, it is also impossible to call it politics, and foreign political pressure they are doing the very things that i said, they are trying to damage the management system of the world order, in other countries of the world, they started with israel for a reason in order to set several countries on fire, and we can see that, in them, this process is gradually already underway, this is how they achieve external political goals, in order to destroy the world order, it is completely different, and it is not politics, because politics is negotiations, it is agreements and so on, it is not politics, it is special operations of the russian federation, that is what it is is happening, that is... to say that putin is doing politics, well, it is to mistake one thing for another, speculation, political actions, the essence remains

the same, which will now be an attempt. offensives on the entire front line, as well as an attempt to attack the ukrainian civilian population, we all understand that it will not happen without this, now it will a little colder, and we will see it, and at the same time there will be an attempt to attack the external, well, some kind of attempt there, again to do psychological operations in the world, regarding the stories that ukraine can no longer resist and therefore it does not need help, it will all be synchronized, and for us. you know, such psychological operations , well, okay, a psychological operation, but you understand, psychological operations are psychological because they affect the psyche, and this is one way or another, regardless of whether you want whether you perceive it or not, it is happening, then in

response you need to take some actions so that it does not affect the psyche. you just need to take countermeasures, you need to show some kind of activity, what kind of activity, this is a question for you, well, i would say, i would say, where should be active, it should be shown in the kremlin, because the threat comes from there, many people are manipulated from there and so on, for some reason drones do not fly to the brain institute, for some reason our drones do not fly to the institute of psychology near st. petersburg, that is, precisely those systems that control large in numbers, well, almost zombies... people, that is, completely zombified people, these are the things that, they, it is difficult for them to resist, because they are overpopulated by russia, this is true today, and we understand what will happen from now on , they will try to raise a riot all over europe , that's what they will do, now the question is how

to counter it, well, again, the question of this is in the format, television ... it's quite difficult to discuss, firstly, secondly , i am not the president of ukraine, if i were the president of ukraine, i would say about it, well, no today, what can we counteract, that is, really, the global process that putin has dragged out, the whole world, that is, we need to understand this and we need to do quite simple, again , psychological operations, that is, what fate, well, for example, we have to protect now.. . the people of palestine from hamas, yes, change the emphasis a little bit, then everything will change a little bit, these are global things, but again, we said with you again, simple technological points, solutions that are available, thanks to our partners, they should be available for all drone manufacturers in ukraine, on today, and

everything that can and can fly must fly there over russia, we must explain to our partners. for example, in germany, that when solovyov says that berlin should prepare for an attack, and that the germans should flee from berlin, then he is hinting at something, and they will act there as well, and this should be understood throughout the world, besides , one of the points of russian methods is that they