[000:00:00;00] focused, reasoned and constructive, because we need a result, we need not noise , we need a result, because we haven't won the war yet, the situation remains extremely fragile and difficult, so we have to grit our teeth as much as possible, even when we really want to scream, thank you, mr. andriy , ms. yevhennia, well, it is probably the most difficult for me to answer, because i am a representative of the government, but in fact we are all representatives, and people's deputies from other factions are also part of this system, restraining the counterweights, eh, it is necessary of course to pay attention constructively to what can be done better, but it is definitely not possible to slip into a general accusation of politicking, and i, as the head of the subcommittee on information policy, analyze the influence of information, especially from

the russian federation, and now i see in there are a lot of accounts on social networks that are closed there, profiles are closed, and they all write the same accusations there as if they were copycats in order to undermine our spirit there, our faith in victory and for ukrainians to get tired there and so on, so here it always has to be a reasonable balance and, well, some kind of statesmanlike approach. thank you, ma'am. yevgenia, today is a historic day, as the president of the european commission says, we have achieved one more step on the way to the european community, to the european union, in december the council, the european council must make a political decision on the start of negotiations with ukraine, and

what will happen if the european council will decide not to take such a decision, does this mean that we will again be forced to return to the incompletely completed tasks that we set before in front of us is the european community, the european family, and to go through the same path again, is in principle the question of the future of ukraine in the european union in the near future, and the perspective is the closest there 3,4 or five years, in principle resolved, because we is, as the historian serhiy plokhiy said, the eastern gate of europe. mrs. irina, please, i am satisfied with the positive decision in december, although it is obvious that there are those among the leaders of european countries who will now carry out certain messages from the kremlin, and of course, we are aware that today, for example, there is a negative signal

when the new prime minister of slovakia. there is the 14th package of aid to ukraine and such critically needed shells, for example, or cartridges, and in this there is a huge deficit today at the front, we realize that orban very often speaks as if hungarian, but in fact russian and kryvlov, but we are convinced the fact that the true friends of ukraine will find these arguments so that december will also become a historic month for us, and yet i want to say what is important for us today, well, not in euphoria, only to hope for a decision in brussels, i am sure, i am very optimistic about december, that it will be positive, and to think about our own homework as well. it is a very positive signal today that the european commission has developed a unique accelerated accession procedure for ukraine, and i think that this is primarily the merit of neither the government nor the opposition, with all due respect to diplomats, the government, deputies, and primarily the armed forces

of ukraine. who today impress the whole world with their sacrifice. and you know, today i had a shock from one moment in parliament, when i read this information, which we were very much waiting for from brussels, that there is already such a statement by the president of the european commission, orsula funderlajen, that the negotiations on the accession of ukraine and moldova to the eu are starting, i took the floor, told the hall about it, congratulated the hall and reminded that exactly 10 years ago this long began. the path from the heroism of the maidan, from the sacrifice of the heavenly hundred, and the hall began, excuse me, to growl, i was struck by this, because not to mention the sacrifice of millions of people, the heavenly hundred, the armed forces of ukraine, is to humiliate our history, and it is very important that

we correctly read today's report of the european commission, it is such a fairly thorough document, which indicates the importance of ukraine's compliance with the copenhagen criteria, by the way, there is also talk about the need to return to the t3 system, channels that have been disconnected, in particular, we are currently on the espresso channel, which is not available, threw it out of there, it seems to me that it is very important that we unite with the majority around such important tasks, i am convinced that european integration, euro-atlantic integration is what unites us, everything will be fine, if we make every effort for this, ms. evgenia, ms. iryna mentioned that we do not speak on the air, in the digital air, and this is already from april 2022, if we want to be europe, if we want to be members of a big european family , then probably not only the representatives of the opposition parties should talk

about it, moreover, you see that the espresso tv channel is also open to representatives of the monopoly power, we always invite the monomajority to our broadcasts, and we do not have any bias there one one way or the other, wouldn't it be illogical to start such an internal party discussion in connection with this, because, well , a lot of questions arise, and why, why is eso there outside of digital broadcasting, and why despite that, that they collected 25,000 signatures of a petition on the website of the office of the president of ukraine, on the website of the president of ukraine, they still treat us as some kind of secondary or third-rate group, somehow it is not european. well, let's go back to the main topic, we are talking about the fulfillment of criteria and about the implementation of the recommendations, i am simply a co-author of the law on media, which was one of, well, actually the requirements and recommendations from

the european commission to the parliament to ukraine, and in fact, this is a great victory, i also want to thank my colleagues from other factions who, having supported the draft law, and let me remind you, three convocations of the parliament could not vote, for eight years the law on the media, whatever it was called, was not voted in the parliament, because there were private interests in the media, there was always someone's interest, there has always been, this is an issue to which did not want to touch, and thank god, although the european commission added this issue as a requirement before joining the european union, and please note that the fourth step, er, and this is precisely the one that concerns the media issue, has been fully implemented, it also applies to changes, well, actually to the media legislation

and to the legislation on advertising, and by the way, it gives those powers to the regulator at the national council for television and radio broadcasting, well, which did not exist before that, that is what you are asking about broadcasting on the digital air or on the satellite not actually refers to powers of the parliament, but i always get involved and answer questions from espresso or other tv channels or any media that contact me for comments, and precisely the pluralism also noted in the conclusion of the european commission, actually i have it open here on my e- tablet, i read it in the original language, there are 152 pages, but... well, it is actually noted that ukrainians have access to various sources of information, even during martial law, which has certain restrictions, including for

the dissemination of information, but it seems to me that we're right here, a good example for the world, even during a full-scale invasion of free speech, well, i can argue, but in this case, i'm a person of interest and a journalist who works on a... a tv channel that's not in digital broadcasting, i'm all- i still want to live in europe, and not in russia, where there is only one information policy, but less so, as they say, galicians, my parents always watch espresso, if possible, kete i will add, short, i am very, very grateful , that you always respond, and indeed, you are always included in the air of the tv channel, i am grateful to your parents, that they brought up such a polite and correct to... mr. andrii, among those who do not want us to be in the european union, there is hungary, about moscow, leader orban, and

they say that the law on education , he restricts the hungarians living on the territory of ukraine, forces hungarians ukraine to teach subjects, 70% in the state ukrainian language, and that this is an obstacle for ukraine to go to the european it is clear that orbán can find a million different reasons why ukraine should not go to the european union, and obviously, the motives can be not only in the field of education, and even more so, the motives can be personal for mr. orbán. in your opinion, how can we avoid the fact that hungary, or, for example, slovakia led by robert fico, can somehow slow down our movement towards the european union, that is, they will simply block and all negotiations will not be positive, as a result, we will not reach membership in the european union. negotiations on joining the european union will take a very long time. and the hard way, the fact that the decision will be made is political,

i have no doubt, it will definitely be done, because this is partly europe's payment for their short-sightedness and actually for their inaction over the years, the lack of reaction to the behavior of the kremlin, to the behavior of russia, because putin started his activities not only from february 24 of last year, but this lasted for decades. europe turned a blind eye to this, and of course, now they are trying to somehow atone for their sins, and to vote for the start of negotiations is much even easier than to fulfill the obligation to deliver 1 million shells to ukraine, which, by the way, have not yet been delivered in the promised volume, so the negotiations will begin, it will take a long time, there is no magic wand or magic pill, as you say, against orban or anyone else, but i assure you... there will be talk and problems not only with orban, but with

by some very unexpected political players, because if orbán and the new slovak leaders, they are now openly rebroadcasting the kremlin's position, which is probably a horror for a huge number of bureaucrats in brussels, a horror for many countries of the european union, especially if we we are talking about the baltic countries, so, god forbid, if we get out of this life... war, then everyone will generally return to the issue of business as usual, and the european union is generally about money, about big money, and when we are talking about the fact that a dilapidated country that needs huge resources should be accepted into the european union, not only conditionally hungary or slovakia, everyone will think about whether they want to share the money, look, now we just point the finger at orbán again, we have very... difficult relationship with

poland, which is our brother country, which helped us incredibly and in principle is still helping us in the great war, but when it comes to economic interests, everything starts completely differently, i'm sorry, we now have a practically blocked border with poland, in general, if we now let's look at the western border, we only have more or less normal relations with romania from european countries, that's a fact, so i think, as i said, this pro will be very painful, it can be quite long, but i have this feeling , well, on the level intuition that all these challenges that are currently facing the european union, they will force the european union to reform, because this whole story about the unanimity of decision-making, well, it drives the regulars into a dead end, by the way, the same will probably happen with nato, so i do not rule out that we will join the european union, but it may be a slightly different organization than the one we know now, which will

probably work with slightly different coordinate systems, slightly different rules, but believe me, it will be not fast, but how fast we are we can join the european union, mrs. irina, you know, i am an optimist and a realist, but all the winning relations of the government scare me sometimes, i want everyone to do it as soon as possible, but the absolutely right colleague who says that this path will not be easy and very important professional negotiations so that we very clearly meet all the criteria of the european union, but also protect the ukrainian producer, the ukrainian farmer, and ukrainian education, and therefore the speed of our journey depends on many components, but also on professionalism negotiators, it seems to me that now the government needs to think about this and strengthen this team of winners, i'm very good, well, it 's you... so wild in the current ruling

team, but i would still like to emphasize once again that, for example , the negotiations on keeping ukraine visa-free were also difficult, and very professional negotiators were involved, there are not so many of them in the country , people who know very well what the rules are, who are well versed in the nuances of european regulations and directives, and that is the strength of this. .. teams, how about these people, well there really isn't much in the country, a lot depends on it, i would really like for us to go through the path and become a member of the eu in five years, and it seems to me that this path is very much connected with ukraine's membership in nato, so if , one more remark is important here, if the position of the current ruling team was absolutely correct regarding the negotiations with the eu, when these seven prerequisites were defined for us, which we clearly see, this is our homework, we must fulfill them, and then in december we will receive such a positive the decision

of the european council regarding the start of negotiations, then proto such a letter of official points, what should be done to ukraine in order to receive such a... signal, for example , there is no such thing at the washington summit, and it seems to me that now it is necessary to work very seriously and concentrate on this, because these are interconnected things, and honestly so to speak, we can do two homeworks in one fell swoop . thank you, ms. irina, after a short break, friends, we will return to our conversation. why am i here i have sensitive teeth, eat ice cream, pain, cold air - pain, sweet, pain. the dentist thinned lakalut sensitive, which effectively reduces tooth sensitivity. if i had known the lacquer sensitive earlier, i wouldn't have had to come here at all. lacalot sensitive - reliable protection against pain. i flew, flew, and the cough stopped me. cough is

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certificates of the president. friends, we continue our broadcast , i remind you that during the broadcast we ask you about whether it is necessary to criticize the government during the war, this question is on youtube if you watch us on youtube, and you can also vote now by phone if you watch us on tv, so the options for answers are yes, no, yes, phone number 0800 211-381, no, 0800 211. 82. today we have on the air iryna gerashchenko, andriy osadchuk and yevhennia kravchuk, people's deputies of ukraine, and we are talking about european and euro-atlantic integration, ee. mrs. evgenia, mrs. iryna already mentioned the move to nato , and we are waiting for the washington summit, which is to be held

in the spring of next year, the anniversary summit, and the absolutely logical question, what do we have with euro-atlantic integration, what do we have with integration into the north atlantic alliance , because we also have obligations to the alliance, of course, while the war is going on, obviously, membership: in nato will not be in such a close perspective as we would like, but still, after the july summit in vilnius, what steps did ukraine take to get closer to nato? eh, joining nato is, well, what unites almost all parties and groups, it seems to me, there maybe with the exception of some, but it is what unites ukrainians, and by the way, if... you

turn sociological attention to the survey, it is precisely this absolute conviction that there is no alternative to european integration or integration into nato that pushes and will push politicians who do not fulfill these promises to action, and even, if compared with the countries of the western balkans, then ukraine just has, well, obviously, the largest support for european integration, euro-atlantic integration among the population, and this is very important, it seems to me that this is key, and well , you continue to ask on youtube whether it is necessary to criticize, well, we have already talked about it, that it is necessary during the war as well, but it is necessary to celebrate the achievements, because it is also important, it is so necessary, and well, today, in my opinion, is exactly the day when it is necessary to celebrate the achievements, because when the ambassador of the european union mrs.... came to president zelensky and brought this is the report, it's thick like that, and she brought it and said that a lot is written here, but the most important thing is the green light

for the start of negotiations, and if five years ago, to me, well, that is, the ambassador of the european union says: they would have told me what i brought, the recommendation of the european commission on the start of negotiations for ukraine to join the european union, i would not believe it, and it is really true, another five years, so let's be...' until february 24 , 2022, it seemed something fantastic, very prolonged, and exactly war, if not it is strange, a window of opportunity is opening, and it is very important for us politicians to use this window of opportunity as much as possible so that we actually implement what the people want, but whether to join nato, that is the question, and whether to brush one's teeth in one's bag , of course we have to, do we have to move there, that's our ... well, there's survival, that's, well, our civilizational choice, i'm not talking now that i 'm questioning whether our viewers are

questioning the need to enter into nato, but there is a set of criteria that we must meet, and obviously, in some criteria or some comments that are from the european commission, we will probably have the same comments from the north atlantic alliance, we need to strengthen the fight against corruption, we need to strengthen the fight against oligarchs, we need... we need to appoint heads of anti-corruption bodies. in principle, probably, these comments will be the same in this part, except that the armed forces must meet nato standards there, although it seems to me that over time this question will disappear altogether, because we are already on nato standards and on nato weapons let's move on, something you wanted to say, nato will learn from us and we will do training for nato, our fighters will do training for that, but let's come here, we are adults, we have all gathered, right, so in the case of... joining nato, we must always understand that this is a political decision of countries that

, well, well remember the fifth article, and about going to war, if someone attacks the territory of a country that is part of nato, so it will always be somewhere like that , well, there is a warning for them, which does not mean that we should ask questions rubba and say that we definitely... apply for full membership. moreover, when we talk about security guarantees, it is the accession to nato that is this security guarantee of non-recurrence of war. but in the case of the european union, for example, there is an example of cyprus , which joined the european union, having, well, let's say, let's call it a territorial dispute, yes, because there is northern cyprus, and in the end, the country was accepted into nato, i apologize , to the european union, and the deputy prime minister rightly said at the beginning

that despite a full-scale war, we we are moving towards accession , and no one questions which territory we are entering, because ukraine is seen as a whole country. thank you, and mr. andriy, please tell me how in the current situation, whether ukraine should speed up in order to gain a greater pace of european, euro-atlantic integration, or in this case it is just a protocol is a protocol, no matter how much we strive for it. and no matter what conclusions our partners reach, in principle everything will happen as it should happen, but i personally would we did not want it to be like turkey, which in 1987 started this process of joining the european union, in 2016 they were told that they did not meet the criteria for human rights and

the rule of law, i will remind you, that in 2004 the verkhovna rada adopted a law on the pre-adaptation of ukrainian legislation to eu legislation, so formally this process has been going on for 20 years and may last another 20 years, but what is happening now is not so much a struggle for some formal requirements and discussion about the formal requirements, which again can be endlessly pursued, and the example of turkey is probably already textbook, in fact everything will be decided on the battlefield, no matter how we like it or not, i disagree a little with a little tonality... he says that the war opens up such an opportunity for us, no, not the war, but tens of thousands of killed ukrainians, tens of thousands of wounded and a lot of spilled blood, it forces the europeans to go to meet us, close their eyes to many details and say, well, well, well, let's go, let's go to negotiate, and that it also applies to the discussion on nato, if

we cannot maintain the military result, no one will accept us, i guarantee you that, but if we have a good military result, or somehow come to an agreement, i don’t know, xi jinping and biden are there if sydzinpin finds some kind of format, then of course we can be accepted into nato and the european union , at the same time, i think, from the point of view of the survival of the ukrainian people and the preservation of the ukrainian state, we are of course much more interested in the issue of nato than the issue of the european union, between economy and security we definitely choose security, and security, of course, is exclusively nato membership, in the modern world there is no other option that could protect you and me, our children, our grandchildren on our land. therefore, i think that for the next six months there will be very difficult political consultations, which very often can be very unpleasant for us, because we raised the bar to the maximum, volodymyr zelenskyi in his

ten-point plan raised the bar to the maximum, and the entire ukrainian people, in fact, all politicians support him in this, but he appeals to the organization of the united nations, he appeals to the restoration of the international order, to things that in fact do not work at all, that are actually destroyed, and judging by everything , everything will have to be renegotiated somehow in a new way, and if the issue of ukraine's survival is at stake, of the ukrainian nation, and not international law, then surely the good will have to choose the first. i will end by saying that i believe that we will be in nato sooner than in the eu, because it is this belief that must guarantee our survival, thank you, with this belief we will say goodbye to the audience, thank you for participating in program, andrii sachuk, yevhennia kravchuk, and iryna gerashchenko were guests of today's program. during the program, we conducted a survey and asked you, friends, whether it is necessary to criticize the government during the war, so

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