tv [untitled] November 9, 2023 4:30am-5:00am EET
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[000:00:00;00] the parliament transformed, well, we don't decide anything here, really, well, they just sit here, press a button, really from the parliament, it seems that there is one person who can enter the president's office, she is not here now, there are two more people who probably they can on work issues, at least somehow, maybe our speaker and his first deputy, they can at least knock there, maybe someone will answer them, everything, everything, we don't see in the president's council. if he comes, well, just perform for us, he performed and left, we sang the ropes in chorus, he listened, left, but no, there is no contact, i addressed the president with a letter according to the law, this is a matter of the status of a people's deputy, a people's deputy has the right to receive any leader, i made a request to the president, i want, i asked, i
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demand a meeting, in the fifth year zelsky's presidency, and at the same time i am on... people's deputy, i asked once, give me one hour, i want to ask a question, report the situation, tell what seems important to me, that maybe yermak is not telling you this, maybe you you don't know, complete silence, nobody doesn’t even answer me, i didn’t even receive an official answer, i understand that yermak sent it away, well, it’s clear that he sent it further, he told me where to look for something again, because it’s our bodies that can carry out political tasks, they ran, they are looking for something , because this one, you see, he wants to meet, to ask some questions, well, yes, because i am also a representative of the people of ukraine, like the president, and i want to ask, and i want to tell, it goes, there is no, our government, and i already, mr. shmigal , many people in the country, you know, i conducted an experiment, i in the stream asked who knows the name of the prime minister,
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no one. no one knows the name of the prime minister of ukraine. shmyhal, i remind you, shmyhal. we haven't seen him in months. we were told that the question hour for the government will return. once he came, sat for an hour, this was in 20 months. no, it's almost 21. and he left. that's all, that 's all. where is he, where are they? well, this is us, this association, this is cherchel. this is existence. challenge, well, you can give everyone a job, well , how many people are there in the country, give everyone a job there, but don’t solve the task, the supreme council has your own, and you, well, then you just have to let go, you must not eat in one mouth and you must not think that you are alone, kissed by god, because every person can make a mistake, and every person can do or not do something,
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right. wrong, it seems to me that zelsky does not even understand at all what the parliament is needed for, it seems to me that his opinion that it is a kind of coincidence is not needed by anyone, unfortunately, many colleagues whom he brought here and who force people, can myself to think that this is some coincidence that no one needs, friends, parliament, only i want to remind our viewers why parliament is important, and look at any successful country, it is parliamentary. or it is generally a parliamentary-presidential state, or there is a strong parliament, like in the united states of america, with a strong president, but a strong parliament, why? but because it is a mechanism of balance, it is certain checks and balances, it is a dialogue, it is a discussion, someone understands military affairs, others medical, and a third person education, and this is how expertise is produced for the country, and which ones we have here with you
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discussions? no, we don't discuss in committees, we don't discuss in the hall, because we came, voted, pressed a button , went on, everything is written in one place in the president's office, and in principle no one is needed, everything is managed by two people, and and i understand, they are so comfortable, but they make a huge mistake, yermak and zelensky, when they, firstly, this is a colossal responsibility that they also took on themselves, and secondly, they exclude a colossal part of society from the opportunity. .. influence the situation, change the situation, feel that they are needed, and mistakes become inevitable, and mistakes become irreversible, and we all pay for it, and ukraine today pays a colossal price for all this, colossal, friends, these are very important questions that i ask, yes, i understand
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that, many, yes, the deputies have left, they don't want to hear, they don't want to see, but we, friends, i will force them to hear, i will force them to see, because we have others. there are no options, the country must see the truth, the country must know the truth, the country must influence the politicians, we must sober them up, as we did with the elections, and it is very good that they have bailed us out, forced us to come to our senses, and we must continue to do this, i have a request for mr. artur gerasimov, i have a request, colleague, i am asking you, from my edits, to choose where... a few important amendments that relate to money for the military, or that it is not an afterthought, that we will put to a vote at the end of my speech, because i still want us all to demonstrate the potential, to show how many
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deputies we have here, showed a real picture of how many are not so tired yet for the second working day in a month, and we worked on november 7 from 2:30 p.m. to 11 p.m. that's 8.5 hours, well, a normal eight-hour working day, now we have our work, already two hours, well, 10.5 hours per week a month, well, you can probably work, and not be so overworked that your hands get impatient, your legs refuse, and you don’t have the strength to work or listen to anything, well, yes, it would probably be right, and show who... there is who and show these votes and post them everywhere so that people can see who still goes to work and who still believes that it is work and that work must be done, that if a teacher does not come to work, he will be fired, if a military man does not
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come to work, then in general this one, and therefore this is the situation that we friends have, and it also requires another. .. the work of the parliament, they require a real unification in the style of churchill , and not a fake unification, unfortunately in the style of zelsky, and let's not draw conclusions before it's too late, the situation in the country is very difficult, the situation at the front is difficult, and this i'm not saying it, it's commander-in-chief zaluzhnyi, the situation in the economy is extremely difficult, and when based on the study, ukraine is among the nine countries with the worst taxation, hello hetmantsev. nine countries of tax hell were blamed, we got into this list when the situation in international politics is extremely difficult, when aid and support to ukraine has been suspended, when yesterday the minister of finance of ukraine
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says that we may have a hole of 29 billion us dollars, we imagine at all , what kind of figure is this, it means the collapse of the hryvnia, it means that this is a catastrophe, so it means that it must be urgently corrected, at this moment we must... work, at this moment we must take the right steps, come to our senses and save the country, as we did when we united 20 months ago, it is not too late to do it, thank you, i want to put the following truths to the vote, what numbers, please give it to honcharenko again, thank you, thank you, they are asking for nabis here, but we will also do nabis quality. and while we are talking about amendments, amendment 1346, it is about measures and where, this is an amendment that decides everything , i will now briefly explain this amendment and we will not even dwell on this one amendment anymore, and these two, all, three, yes, three amendments and all, me
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explaining why they are important, so this is amendment 1346, 16:32 and 16:33 , full stop, this is an amendment that says: do not take anything from local government, do not rob, do not destroy, where is this... centralization, and let's limit here in the parliament that all the military pdf should go to the army, which should not go to the cobblestones, or to the stadiums, or to other stupid things, to the army, we will define it here in the verkhovna rada, let's set a framework for local self-government and we ourselves have do the same, this amendment will solve all the issues and everything, please vote, thank you, i put it on voting, people's deputy goncharenko's proposal to take into account the amendment number of people's deputy goncharenko, it was rejected
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by the committee, please vote for 28, the decision was not taken, the amendment was not taken into account, i am putting to the vote amendment number 1630, by factions, please show. 1632 of people's deputy goncharenko, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 28, the decision was not adopted, the amendment was not taken into account and the amendment number 1633 of people's deputy honcharenko was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 25, no decision was made, no correction
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taken into account tishchenko, reply, please, yes, one minute. thank you for your kind word, but first of all i want to say that as part of the work of the temporary investigation commission of the national resource, we received information that the family, namely mr. honcharenko, is today twisting ukrainian forests in odesa region, this is, we are also checking this information, i want remind. that this shameful conscience, mr. goncharenko, according to our information, we are also checking, helped the fugitive mr. yanukovych to take money out of the national bank of ukraine, that is , i want everyone to understand that this is not the place for a person in the parliament, he has a seat today for free, thank you, thank you, dear colleagues, yes, is there anyone else who
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will insist on taking into account the amendments? who will insist on taking into account his edits, mazurasha, and do you remember the numbers , george, tell me, then, please, mazurasha, yes, now i will tell you which edits, now 1091, yes, 1104, yes, 1108, yes, 1109, yes, 1110, yes. 1112 and 1115 and one 1108 will be taken into account for five 5 minutes mazurasha, please yes, george mazurasha servant of the people 203 district of chernivtsi region, my colleagues are here more than once draw attention to the fact that there are few people's deputies in the hall, and i will tell you the position
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and opinion of our voters, well , my voters, because i communicate mainly with my voters, they do not understand why people's deputies can afford not to go to work, this in principle, the main part of our work, that is, the one that is most visible, let's say this , because there are others, of course, that are components of the activity of a people's deputy of ukraine, and i think that after all we should make some changes so that the people's deputies for not going to work, just like others citizens, if they do not show up for work there for 3 days, yes, if they are not mistaken, then they are dismissed from work, and likewise, if a deputy is not at work for three days directly in the session hall or there at a meeting of the main committee,
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that this would lead to the loss of the mandate, and then i would see if my colleagues would not go because they are not interested in listening to someone there , and even more so they do not want to, well, it is no secret that we represent different positions of different voters here and there, different political forces, and sometimes it may not be very pleasant to listen to representatives of opponents, but this is our work. that's why we were elected, and at least we have to be here in the hall and work, so you can vote yellow, red, if you don't support it, but be at work here, now ee regarding this draft law, which, in principle, is designed to er, allocate additional funds for defense needs. and this is a holy matter.
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i already said in the previous, one of the previous speeches, that i think it is relevant, but that it should have been done much earlier and a little under a different sauce, yes, that is, i believe that it would even be possible to collect all taxes from the communities to the center, but at the same time compensate the communities according to... a clear, transparent formula for what they need for their activities, because they too must have funds in the budget for various needs, especially in the conditions , when the state has thrown a lot of things down there, we call it various fashionable words , decentralization and so on, and there you can paint your head, but in order for us to be able to have more funds to finance defense
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needs, we need to take care at least a little about economy, not to destroy, not to help to destroy the already half-lying economy of ukraine, but... to really help so that the part that is still working could continue to function, and we are doing roughly the opposite, and even now we plan to additionally strike there, with inspections , again, yes, there are few checks, so it is necessary to check those who work in the shadows, now, and not direct checks to those who work in the white, to bring them to their knees and force them to pay not officially, not to the budget, but to , who come to check. we understand what it is about, and i can name it there are some examples, when, unfortunately, the system discourages citizens, and in principle , not only to serve and protect the homeland, but even to work, here is the name of the example, short, uh,
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a citizen from the kherson region, moved there with his family, two children, his wife is pregnant, because, well, he suffered, they went to arrived in the kyiv region, then he went with his colleague, where he stopped here in the kyiv region , to chernivtsi, to look for an opportunity to start a family somewhere there, so he was at the station with a colleague , this acquaintance greeted him bravely representatives of the tsk, the military, tricked him into the army and immediately took him there to write everywhere that he is suitable, well, you can't act like that, and you also have to speak frankly with society, if the military is doing harm, is doing... harmful, you have to say it directly , thank you, i am putting mazurash's proposal to the vote, to take into account the amendment number
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1108, it is the amendment of people's deputy mazurash, it was rejected by the committee, please vote. for 27, the decision was not made, the correction was not taken into account, no one else insists on their corrections being taken into account, you still have it, yes mo, so maybe 10 minutes and that's it? or how about five, okay, mazurasha, please, edit number number 1006 1116, 1118, 1119, 1121, 1124, 1125 and 1126, the same 5 minutes, please
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include, yes, if you are going to put any, tell me, either please, i will plant each one, yes, please, giorgiy mozurashu servant of the people 23 district of chernivtsi region. i will convey to my colleagues some opinions from voters with whom i communicate and with whom i sincerely advise my colleagues to communicate as often as possible. because it is important for us in the parliament to synchronize our activities, our initiatives, and our position with the position of those who elected us and delegated us to work in the parliament, so, at meetings with voters, i am asked why, why does the state not communicate openly, frankly with its citizens, the government does not communicate with
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its citizens, openly, honestly, and here, even when some opponents speak, i agree with the fact that it is necessary... to speak honestly to the same military personnel, if there are not enough funds to pay their salaries on time, and there are objective reasons for this, we we understand what they are, that's how we should say it, honestly tell them that it is but at this stage, it is not enough , it would probably be logical to proportionally not maintain a certain period, funds and all other representatives, the budget. the fields that get big salaries, i'm not talking about those who get minimum wage or there are several minimum wages, and it's barely enough to survive. voters ask me why we don't pay attention to the fact that representatives of the territorial
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recruitment and social support center are engaged in vandalism, although i suggested that they change the name and remove social support, because in fact, unfortunately, they are not really engaged in social support, well, except perhaps for burial assistance, there they more or less help , why, they really harm what they do, what they chase... on the streets after everyone, everywhere, trying to dragged in by the army, they harm in a complex way, they harm the citizens themselves, and the economy, and dependent on the economy, defense capability, and the army, respectively, and the country as a whole, we need to talk about this, that is how we often say glory to heroes, glory to ukrainian heroes, that's right, and we... believe in the armed forces, we thank the defenders for the fact that they defend our state, but
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those who cause great harm to the cause of defense and victory and the country as a whole also work in uniform, and colleagues from the specialized committee should also communicate probably with the same ministry of defense and other military, there with the military leadership, that this is unacceptable, that we have to optimize our decisions and actions so that we comprehensively... are more effective in resisting russian aggression, and not harm at this time citizens and the economy, and the citizens really want to support the army, this is true, but in order to donate to the army, you have to come from somewhere, of course, when someone there receives even in the budgetary sphere, which is shameful for a warring country, hundreds of thousands, and someone and millions more, special ones. then of course you can donate, i don't count other people's money, but i think that it's just not that much and it's possible to donate, and when citizens
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get their hands on five or something from the minimalka, yes, there are those few minimalkas, and they barely make it there from place to place, it is clear that they cannot support the army, therefore, people must be given the opportunity to work, if certain men there, even men aged 18 to 60 years old, cannot fight for various reasons, someone cannot be healthy there, i don’t know , morally strong-willed individuals and so on, then it is necessary to give the opportunity to work and to contribute to the functioning of the economy, because this is income to the budget and this is the financing of the same military needs, and if someone does not have the opportunity to work here for a more or less decent salary, which will allow them to earn for themselves and their families, then let them go abroad and work abroad, for example, on the conditions of guaranteed contributions
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to the nssu, as i proposed in draft law 829 , about which there are various manipulative interpretations on the internet. i put to the vote the proposal of mazurash, people's deputy of mazorash, to take into account amendment number 1116, his authorship was rejected by the committee , i ask you to vote for 28, the decision was not taken, the amendment was not taken into account, everyone votes for george, yes, i put to the vote amendment number 1118 of the people's mp mazurasha, it was rejected by the committee,
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i ask you to vote. for 32, the decision was not taken, the amendment was not taken into account, i put to the vote the proposal to people's deputy mazorasha to take into account the amendment number 1119, authored by him, it was rejected by the committee, i ask you to vote. for 27, the decision was not adopted, the amendment was not taken into account , i am putting to the vote the proposal of people's deputy mazurash to take into account the amendment number 1121 of his authorship by the committee, it was rejected, please vote. for 31 , the decision was not adopted, the amendment was not taken into account , i put the people's proposal to the vote mazurasha to take into account the amendment number 10124 of his
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authorship by the committee, it was rejected, please vote. for 30, the decision has not been made, the correction is not taken into account, george, you are still further there, the next block will be, and we finished this one on the 1126th, yes, is it the fifth, the sixth, put two more, yes, now, the sixth, also, read the sixth, the fifth and the sixth, good. i am putting to a vote the proposal of people's deputy mazurash to take into account amendment number 1125, authorship of it. it was rejected by the committee, i ask you to vote for 30, the decision was not taken, the amendment was not
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taken into account, and amendment number 1126, authorship mazurasha, i put it to the vote. to take into account his amendment for his proposal, please vote, for 30, decision not taken, amendment not taken into account, please georgi, amendments number 1128, 33, 56, 71, 70. 3, 12:07 and 14:02 also 5 minutes and everyone puts them like that, i will put them, let's repeat it once more then 11 28 33 20 56 56 71 73 1207 1402 ok thank you please mazurasha 5 minutes first georgy
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mazurasha servant of the people 203 district. now i would like to talk a little about the efficiency of the use of funds. yes, it is worth downloading these funds are budgeted to the state budget in order to be able to direct them to defense needs, but for this one must have, as they say, an impeccable reputation to the relevant bodies that use these funds in the defense sphere, in particular, because when... there are many abuses around and this is public information, then of course there is a little bit, they say in bukovina you need to have a facade, so as to admit it , and not say that you are using them incorrectly there, and we here in the center will use them more correctly, but this is about the effectiveness of the use of funds is about the effectiveness of their direct use
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in the armed forces of ukraine, i will tell you now, well, without giving away. something that cannot be brought out into the public sphere, yes, even if military secrets were not announced, yes , but, for example, the conversation was not far from the front line, with boys, volunteers, by the way, who have special respect and gratitude for the fact that what is happening in our military units, some, not everywhere, are more efficient, less efficient in terms of the use of funds, including, and i am sorry... that, for example, there is one of the battalions, where the number is over 500 people, 500 or so, and the battalion commander is asked how many of these more than 500 servicemen you can really count on in a combat
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situation, yes, to perform combat tasks. the commander thought and said: well, the man is 40, okay, there are still somewhere, the military guys say, that somewhere there are three more to one directly fighting there, yes, or in the trench or some tasks, the military is performing combat tasks, somewhere up to three more are needed to work there yes, they are cooking, something else there, car service, something like that, but most of them are those from which the commander himself. says that there is no point there, yes, they are not paid, 100,000 extra, but considering where they are, they have to pay somewhere around 30, then the question is whether this is an effective use of the funds, which are already very lacking in the state budget to
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