[000:00:00;00] tively on what can be done better, but it is definitely not possible to slide into a general accusation of politicking, and i am simply, as the head of the subcommittee on the issue of information policy, analyzing the influence of information, especially from the russian federation, and now i see it in social networks there are a lot of accounts that are closed there, profiles are closed , and all of them... they write the same accusations there as if they were copycats in order to undermine our spirit there, our faith in victory and so that the ukrainians there are tired and so on, so here it always has be smart balance and, well, some kind of statesmanlike approach.

thank you, ms. yevhennia, today is a historic day, as the president of the european commission says, we have achieved one more step on the way to the european community, to the european union, in december the council, the european council must make a political decision on the start of negotiations with ukraine, and what will happen , if the european council decides not to take such a decision, does this mean that we will again be forced to return to the unfinished tasks set before us by the european family and again follow the same path, is in principle the question of the future of ukraine in the european union in the near future, and the perspective is the nearest 3,4 or five years there, in principle resolved, because we are, as the historian serhii plohii said, the eastern gate of europe, ms. irina, please, i am convinced of

a positive decision. although it is obvious that among the leaders of european countries there are those who will now carry out certain messages from the kremlin, and of course we are aware that today there is, for example, a negative signal when the new prime minister of slovakia blocks the 14th aid package to ukraine, and such critically needed shells , for example, or cartridges, and there is a huge shortage of this at the front today, we realize that orbán very often speaks, as it were, hungarian, but in fact russian and kryvlian, but we are convinced that true friends of ukraine will find the arguments to make december a historic month for us as well. and yet, i want to say that it is important for us today, you know, not to be in euphoria only to hope for a decision by brussels, i am sure, i am very optimistic about december, that it will not be

positive, and to think about ours. own as well as homework. a very positive signal today is that the european commission has developed a unique accelerated accession procedure for ukraine. and i think that this is primarily the merit of neither the government nor the opposition, with all due respect to diplomats, the government, deputies, and first of all the armed forces of ukraine, who today impress the whole world with their humor. and you know, today i had a shock from one moment in the parliament, when i read this... information that we were really waiting for from brussels, that there is already such a statement the president of the european commission, ursula funderlein, that the negotiations on the accession of ukraine and moldova to the eu are starting , took the floor, told the hall about it, congratulated the hall and reminded that exactly 10 years ago this long journey began with the heroism of the maidan, with the sacrifice of the heavenly hundred, and the hall began

, excuse me for the words to growl, i was struck by this, because to ignore... the sacrifice of millions of people, the heavenly hundred, the armed forces of ukraine, is to humiliate our history, and it is very important that we read today's report of the european commission correctly, it is such a fairly thorough document, which indicates the importance of ukraine's compliance with the copenhagen criteria, by the way, there is also talk about the need to return to the t3 system, the channels that have been disconnected, in particular: now we support the espresso channel, which is not in the system, but for some reason it was thrown out of there. it seems to me that it is very important that we and the majority unite around such important tasks. i am convinced that european integration, euro-atlantic integration is what unites us, everything will be fine if we do our best for it efforts ms. yevhennia, ms. iryna mentioned

that we do not speak in on the air on the digital airwaves, and this is already from april 2022, if we want to be europe, if we want to be members of a big european family, then probably not only the representatives of the opposition parties should talk about it, especially since you see that open the espresso tv channel to representatives of the monopoly power, we always invite the monopoly majority to our broadcasts, and we do not have any bias in one direction or the other, would it be illogical in connection with this, to start such an internal discussion within your party, because a lot of questions arise, and why, why is the esso there? on its digital broadcasting and why, despite the fact that a petition with 25,000 signatures was collected on the website of the office of the president of ukraine, on the website of the president of ukraine, we are still treated as some kind of secondary or

third-rate media, somehow it is not european, well let's go back to the main topic, we are talking about the implementation of the criteria and the implementation of the recommendations, i'm just co-author of the law on media, which was one of the demands and recommendations from the european commission to the parliament to ukraine, and in fact it is a great victory, i also want to thank my colleagues from other factions who supported it, the bill, which, let me remind you, three convocations of the parliament could vote, for 8 years the law on the media, whatever it was called, was not voted on... in the parliament, because there were private interests in the media, there was always someone's interest, there was always this issue that i did not want to touch, and thank god, although the european commission added

this issue is a requirement before joining the european union, and please note that the fourth step, which concerns the media issue, has been fully implemented, it also applies to changes, well, actually to the domestic legislation and to the advertising legislation, and by the way, he gives those powers to the regulator, the national council, on television and radio broadcasting, which did not exist before, that's what you're asking about, broadcasting on the digital air or on the satellite, does not really belong to the powers of the parliament, but i always i turn on and answer questions, whether espresso or other tv channels, or any media that turn to me for comments, and precisely the pluralism also noted in the conclusion of the european commission, i actually have it open here on my tablet,

i read it in the original language , there are 152 pages, but it is actually noted that ukrainians have access to various sources of information, even during martial law, which has certain restrictions. including for the dissemination of information, but it seems to me that we are right here a good example for the world, even during a full-scale invasion, in freedom of speech, well, i can argue, but in this case, i am a person of interest, and a journalist who works for a tv channel that is not in digital broadcasting, i still want to live in europe, and not in russia, where there is only one information policy, but... less with that , as they say, galicians, my parents always watch espresso, if possible, let me add, short, i am very, very grateful that you always respond, and indeed, you are always included in the broadcast of the tv channel, i am grateful

to your parents, that they raised such a polite and correct daughter, mr. andrii , among those who do not want us to be in the european union, there is hungary, about moscow, the leader... orban and they say that the law on education, he restricts hungarians living on the territory of ukraine, forces hungarians in ukraine to teach subjects in 70% of the state ukrainian language, and that this is an obstacle for ukraine to join the european union. it is clear that orban can find a million different reasons why ukraine should not go to the european of the union, and obviously the motives can be... not only in the field of education, and even more so, the motives can be personal for mr. orbán, in what way do you think you can avoid the fact that hungary or, for example, slovakia, led by robert

fico, can , to somehow slow down our movement towards the european union, well, that is, they will simply block and all the negotiations will not be positive, as a result, we will not reach membership in the european union, negotiations on, member... to the european union will be a very long and difficult road, the fact that the decision will be political, i have no doubt about it it will definitely be done, because this is partly the fault of europe for their short-sightedness and actually for their inaction over the years , the lack of reaction to the behavior of the kremlin, to the behavior of russia, because putin has already started his activities not only from february 24 of last year, but it also continued for decades, europe turned a blind eye to this, and of course, now they are trying to somehow atone for their sins, and to vote for the start of negotiations, which is... much even easier than fulfilling the obligation to deliver

1 million shells to ukraine, which, by the way, still haven't delivered in the promised amount, so the negotiations will begin, it will be long, there is no magic wand or magic pill, as you say, against orbán or against anyone else, but i assure you, there will be talk and there will be problems not only with orbán, but with by some very unexpected political players, because if orbán and the new slovak leaders are open... they are now rebroadcasting the kremlin's position, which is probably a horror for a huge number of bureaucrats in brussels, a horror for many countries of the european union, especially if we we are talking about the baltic countries, then, god forbid, if we get out of this life of war, then everyone will generally return to the issue of business as usual, and the european union is generally about money, about big money, and when we

talk about that it is necessary to accept a dilapidated country that needs huge resources into the european union, not only hungary or slovakia conditionally, everyone will think whether they want to share the money, look, now we often point the finger at orbán again, we have very difficult relations with poland, which is our brother a country that helped us incredibly and, in principle, still helps us in the great war, but when it comes to economic interests, everything starts completely differently, i'm sorry, our border with poland is practically blocked now, in general, if we now look at the western border, in we only have more or less normal relations with romania and european countries, this is a fact, so i think that, as i said, this process will be very painful, it can be quite long, but i have this feeling, well, at the level intuition that all these

challenges that are currently facing the european union they will force the european union to reform, because this whole story about the unanimity of decision-making, well, it all drives away permanent accessions, by the way, the same will surely happen with nato, so i do not rule out that we will join the european union, but it is possible there will be a slightly different organization than the one we know now, which will probably work with slightly different coordinate systems, slightly different rules, but believe me, it won't be fast. and how quickly we can join the european union, mrs. iryna, you know, i an optimist and a realist, here are all the victorious relations of the government sometimes scare me, we all want to do it as soon as possible, but an absolutely right colleague who says that this path will not be easy, and professional negotiations are very important here, so that we can very clearly and met all the criteria of the european union, but also protected the ukrainian producer and the ukrainian farmer and

ukrainian education, and therefore, the speed of our journey depends on many components, including the professionalism of the negotiators, so i think that now the government needs to work on this to think about and strengthen this team of winners, i am very good, well, this always causes some kind of wild resentment in the current ruling team, but i would still like to emphasize once again that, for example, the negotiations: about keeping ukraine visa-free were also difficult and were involved there very professional negotiators, there are not so many of them in the country, people who know very well what the rules are there, who are well versed in the nuances of the european regulations and directives, and that's from the strength of this team, how about these people, well, really not in the country so much, so much it depends, i would very much like for us to pass the way and become a member of the eu in 5 years. and it seems to me that this

path is very much connected with ukraine's membership in nato, so if, here , one more remark is important, if the position of the now ruling team was absolutely correct , regarding the negotiations with the eu, when these seven preconditions were defined for us, which we definitely we see, this is our homework, we have to complete it, and then in december we will receive such a positive decision of the european council regarding the start of negotiations, then just such a letter of official points that it is necessary to do to ukraine in order to receive such a signal, for example, there is no washington summit, and it seems to me that now it is necessary to work very seriously and concentrate on this, because these are interrelated things, and frankly, we can do two homeworks in one fell swoop . thank you, ms. irina, after a short break, friends, we will return to our conversation. stiffness in the joints and spine, osteochondrosis, gout, radiculitis, arthritis and

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me estoy muy bien friends, we continue our broadcast, i remind you that during the broadcast we ask you about whether it is necessary to criticize the government during the war, this question is on youtube if you watch us on youtube, and you can also vote now by phone if you watch us on tv, so the options for answers are yes, no, yes, phone number 0800 211-381 no 0800 211-382 today we have iryna gerashchenko on the air, andriy osachuk and yevhennia kravchuk, people's deputies of ukraine, and we are talking about european and euro-atlantic integration. ms. yevgenia, already, ms. iryna mentioned the move to nato, and we are waiting for the washington

summit, which is to be held in the spring of next year, the anniversary summit, and the question, which is absolutely logical, what do we have with euro-atlantic integration, what do we have with integration into the north atlantic the alliance, because we also have obligations to the alliance, of course, until... war, obviously, membership in nato is not in such a near future as we would like i wanted that, but still, after the july summit in vilnius, what steps did ukraine take to get closer to nato, joining nato is, well, what unites almost all parties and groups, well there, maybe with the exception of some, but...' this is what unites ukrainians, and by the way, if you pay attention to polls, sociological studies, then, just this absolute

conviction that there is no alternative to european integration or integration into nato, this what pushes and will push politicians, who would not fulfill these promises, to action, and even if compared with the countries of the western balkans, ukraine just... has , well, obviously, the highest level of support for european integration, euro-atlantic integration among the population, and this is very important, it seems to me that this is key, and well, you continue to poll on youtube, is it necessary to criticize, well, we have already talked about this, that it is necessary during the war, but is it necessary to celebrate achievements, because it is also important, it is necessary, and well, today, in my opinion, is just that day , when it is necessary to celebrate achievements, because when...' the ambassador of the european union ms. meternova came to president zelski and brought this report, it's a fat one, and she brought it and said that a lot

is written here, but the most important thing is the green light for the start of negotiations, and if five years therefore, to me, that is, the ambassador of the european union says, they would tell me that i brought the recommendation of the european commission on the start of negotiations of ukraine on joining the european union, i would not believe it, and it is true. another five years, and, well, let's be honest, up to 24 february 2022, it seemed like something fantastic, very prolonged, and just as the war, strangely enough, opens a window of opportunity, and it is very important for us politicians to use this window of opportunity to the maximum so that we actually realize what the people want, and well, whether to join nato, that's the question, and whether you should brush your teeth in the morning, of course you should. should we move there, yes, it's our , well, survival, it's, well, our civilizational choice, i'm not talking now about what i'm

questioning, whether our viewers are questioning doubt the need to join nato, but there is a set of criteria that we have to meet , and obviously, in some criteria or some remarks that are from the european commission, probably we will have the same remarks from the north atlantic alliance, we need to strengthen the fight against corruption, we need to strengthen the fight against oligarchs, we need to appoint heads of anti-corruption bodies. in principle, apparently, these remarks will be the same in this part, except that the armed forces must meet nato standards there, although it seems to me that this is a question over time it will disappear altogether, because we are already moving to nato standards and nato weapons, something you wanted to say, nato will learn from us and we will conduct trainings for nato, our fathers will conduct trainings for nato, but let us be adults here all collected right, therefore, in the case of joining nato, we must always understand that this is a political decision,

of countries that well remember the fifth article, and about going to war if someone attacks the territory of a country that is part of nato, so it will always be somewhere like that, well there as a warning for them, which does not mean that we should ask the question of rubb and say that we clearly claim full membership, moreover, when we talk about security guarantees, it is the accession to nato, and there is this security guarantee of the non-repetition of war, but in the case of the european union, for example, there is an example of cyprus , which joined the european union, having, well , let's say it, let's call it a territorial dispute, yes, because there is northern measles, and in the end the country was accepted into nato, i apologize, european union, and

the vice-prime minister rightly said at the beginning that despite the full-scale war. we are moving towards accession , and no one questions what territory we are entering, because ukraine is seen as a whole country. thank you, and mr. andriy, please tell me, as in the current situation, whether ukraine should speed up in order to gain a greater pace of european euro-atlantic integration, or in this case simply about how we strive for it and whatever conclusions our partners did not arrive, in principle everything will be fine to happen as it should happen, but i personally would not like it to happen to us like with turkey, that in 1987 they started this process of joining the european union, in 2016 they were told that they did not

meet the criteria for rights there person and regarding the rule of law, i would like to remind you that in 2000, in the fourth year, the verkhovna rada adopted a law of ukraine on the pre-adaptation of ukrainian legislation to eu legislation, so formally this process has been going on for 20 years and may last another 20 years, but what is happening now it's not so much a fight for some formal requirements and a discussion about formal requirements, which, again, can be carried on endlessly, and the example of turkey is probably already textbook, in fact, everything will be decided on the battlefield, whether we like it or not. i slightly disagree with the slight tone of zhenya, who says that the war opens up such an opportunity for us, no, not the war, but tens of thousands of killed ukrainians, tens of thousands of wounded and a lot of spilled blood, she forces the europeans to go to meet us, close their eyes to many details and say, well, well, well, let's let's negotiate, and this includes the discussion, then if

we can't hold the military... nobody will take us anywhere, i guarantee you that, but if we have a good military result, or somehow come to an agreement, no i know xi jinping is there with biden or with xi jinping, if they find some format, then of course we can be accepted into nato and the european union, at the same time, i think, from the point of view of the survival of the ukrainian people and the preservation of the ukrainian state, we are of course interested in the issue of nato much more than a question. of the european union, between economy and security, we definitely choose security, and security, of course, is exclusively nato membership, in the modern world there is no other option that could protect you and me, our children, our grandchildren on our land. therefore, i think that for the next six months there will be very difficult political consultations, which can very often be very unpleasant for us, because we raised the bar

to the maximum, volodymyr zelenskyi in his plan... from 10 points raised the bar to the maximum and the entire ukrainian people, actually all politicians support him in this, but he appeals to the organization of the united nations, he appeals to the restoration of the international order, to things that do not really work at all, that are actually destroyed, and judging by everything, everything will have to be somehow coped with in a new way, and if the question of the survival of ukraine, the ukrainian nation, and not international law, then surely. will have to choose the first, i conclude by saying that i believe that we will be in nato before the eu, because it is this belief that must guarantee our survival, thank you, with this faith we will say goodbye to the audience, thank you for participating in the program, andriia sachuk, evgenia kravchuk, and iryna gerashchenko were guests of our program today, during the program we conducted a survey and asked you, friends, whether it is necessary

to criticize the government during the war , so 85% said yes, 15 - no, i put an end to this, i say goodbye to you until tomorrow at 20:00, goodbye. in ukraine, it's 2 p.m. and we bring to your attention a news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. verkhovna rada adopted the budget for 2024, almost 50% of expenses will be directed to the defense and security of ukraine. according to prime minister denys shmyhal , there will be even more weapons and equipment, more