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on the air from washington, the program of the ukrainian service of the voice of america time, i'm maria prus, congratulations, unanimity on support for israel and deep differences on the issue of further assistance to ukraine, during the third debate of the candidates for the nomination from the republican party for the post of president of the united states, the international agenda was in the center of the discussion. in particular, entrepreneur vive kramaswamy called ukraine a non-demo. and advocated that allow russia to keep the territory of ukraine illegally occupied since 2014. instead, senator tim scott, former governor chris christie and us ambassador to the un nikki haley have said that supporting ukraine in its struggle for democracy is in the interests of american security. at the same time, former us president donald trump, who has the highest ratings among all republican candidates, did not participate in the debate . by.
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my colleague yuliya yarmolenko followed the course of events in miami. hello yulia. usually, at such debates, first of all, they discuss about domestic american problems. but this time there was a lot of talk about foreign policy, but what about ukraine? you know, maria, it was really unusual. that's the highlight of this debate here in miami. the entire first part of this debate was devoted precisely to external issues. and indeed, if the candidates agreed in principle on what is helping israel. it is necessary that israel definitely has the right to defend itself from an attack by hamas, then from the point of view of ukraine and the further support of the united states of ukraine, then there were really different opinions here, and vive krameswamy, we know his position from the first debate, it sounded very clearly then and caused a very big wave of criticism, this time he again started talking about ukraine being undemocratic, used words like nazi when talking about ukrainian president volodymyr zelensky,
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for which he, his company had to actually explain those words, saying that he didn't really mean that, but really, you know, maria, a very big and clear and clear answer was from other candidates who are not isolationists like vive kromoswamy, who believes that the united states should continue to be a leader globally, in the global community, in the global world, and nikki gel just said that these words coming from vive kareswamy, they are only playing into the hands of the dictator who hear , as he talks about it, they only dream of such a person becoming president, she said that the united states must first continue its unwavering support for ukraine, she said that this is very important, and also, spoke in support of ukraine cris- christie, who said that the story it cannot be forgotten so that it does not repeat itself. let's listen to their quotes. we all remember what that thief did when wed we all know that half a million people
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died because of putin, this is a freedom loving pro-american country fighting for its survival and democracy, no, i don't think we have on.. i believe that we should provide them with equipment and weapons to win. 1992 this country made a promise to ukraine, we said if you give up the nuclear weapons that were in the old soviet union to russia, and if they attack you, we will protect you, and promises the americas made on the 31st are no different from the american promises made on this stage today. we have to stick to it. those of us who forget history are doomed to repeat it. yulia, did you hear the debate live, please tell me how the audience reacted and is it possible to name the winner of this debate? you know, maria, the audience responded quite enthusiastically, despite the fact that
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the actual nbcnews anchors who conducted the debate asked them not to applaud so long as not to delay the actual debate so that everyone could speak, but what i heard before debates, when i speak... with people who actually went to watch these debates, there were different opinions, some were very supportive of viva karswami, some through chris christie, ron desantis, nikki haley, and people were curious, they wanted to hear what the opinion is, what the opinion of this or that candidate is, and whether they can set themselves apart and present themselves as, as a viable alternative to donald trump, after the debate, the most enthusiasm was actually about the person of nikki haley, and a lot of people that i've talked to spoke, they said that they were right from her what they would like to hear from their candidate, let's actually listen, what thoughts did the americans come out of the debate with? i think everyone did a good job, i think ramaswamy was a bit aggressive in his comments, but i found it interesting, everyone
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gave opinions that give us a little more insight into who they are and how they will run the country, they talked about the economy, security, war, i think it was a very... civilized debate. it was important how each candidate came out in support of israel and recognized that when you see a problem, it is necessary to talk about it and call things by their names. who won tonight. nicky haley, she was the strongest in the debate, she was the most attacked, which means she made the other candidates worry, and she's a tough woman. gosh, i think everyone did a great job. if you go one by one and analyze each candidate, from tim scott, ron desantis, nicky gelly, chris christie, they all did extremely well depending on the topic they were talking about. today i also had the opportunity to talk with the mayor of miami, this is france suarez, who actually
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at the beginning of the race was also one of the candidates for the republican nomination, but later he still stopped his race, he decided to focus on miami, on such internal problems. he also gave his assessment and said that each of the candidates spoke to some of his audience, but still he is not convinced that they have enough time to break the kind of leadership that donald trump has now, let's listen. i think they all appealed to their audience, i think that vivik was trying to do something very specific by appealing to the kind of non-establishment you saw nikki haley and ron desandis trying to define between themselves. who will be the first in the group of people who do not support trump, who can impress them more? also there were people like tim scott and christie who i think are on the sidelines now and it remains to be seen if they are going to continue their campaign until the next debate in december and the vote in january, i'm not sure if any of them strongly
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influenced by the huge advantage of the former the president in 30%. before the vote in aewimpshire, and they have only one option left, another debate in december, in the middle of the holidays, when they don't ... you know how much attention people will pay to them, so actually, well, donald trump really did not take part in these debates again, what is happening in his election campaign? you know, maria, even though he didn't really participate, he held a big rally, is it literally 15 minutes or 15 km from where the debate is happening in his campaign? well, first of all, apart from the fact that he has to urge voters to vote for him, he has a lot of cases that concern the courts themselves. cases against him, and that's why, at this point, some of the republicans i talked to yesterday, they're not ready to say whether they're going to vote for donald trump if he's the sole nominee of the party, because again, there's a lot uncertainty remains, precisely as it relates to
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the legal cases brought against donald trump, so we will see what happens in the coming months. thank you yulia, for the progress of the debates of the republican candidates in yulia followed the president. the decision not to hold elections during martial law is kyiv's choice, which is in line with the ukrainian constitution, state department deputy spokesman vedant patel said at a briefing on tuesday. he reminded that almost 20% of the territory of ukraine is occupied, and millions of citizens are displaced or abroad due to the war with russia, which continues daily shelling of civilian infrastructure. in these conditions, as the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi said the other day, theses about the possible holding of elections in 2024 impractical when will ukraine be able to hold the next elections - asked maria ul'yanovska. on october 29
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, the next parliamentary elections should be held in ukraine, and presidential elections in the spring of 2024. however, ukraine has been in a full-scale war for the second year, and it is not yet known when the next elections will be held. systematic, competitive and fair elections are the fundamental principles of democracy, but is such a false discovery possible in the conditions of martial law? hold elections n despite the war, both friends and skeptics urged ukraine to support ukraine. ukraine should hold fair free elections, this is its duty according to the charter of the council of europe and other conventions. you must respond to this challenge, because if you don't, then the question becomes, what were we defending in this war of attrition? supporters of this idea say that ukraine must prove that it remains a democratic state, and draw attention to the fact that the composition of the ukrainian parliament. does not correspond to the last manifestation of will of the voters, because some of the deputies went abroad, and
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the parties that were under the influence of russia are now banned altogether. in addition, they indicate the experience of other countries that held elections despite the war: the usa, during the second world war, afghanistan and iraq. however, the governments of democratic partner countries do not put pressure on ukraine to hold elections. they have very clearly stated their position that ukraine will hold elections when the conditions are right to hold them, where polls show that the majority of ukrainians are against holding elections before the end of the war, and 114 ukrainian public organizations have jointly stated that elections and a full-scale war are not compatible. they warn of the numerous challenges of such and say that the formal act of voting is not an unconditional confirmation of the regime's democracy. we cannot hold elections during the war, because they will be fake without understanding how, first of all, to restore the political processes in
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ukraine, how to prepare the necessary legislation for this, how to involve people not only to vote, but also to to run for office, to be candidates, to take into account all those who are now abroad, among the refugees there are now many leaders of civil society, inside the country there are many internally displaced people, the military on the front line, these elections will not reflect a real show of will, they will not be free and elections, so it is very dangerous to hold them, especially since there is a big risk that russia will attack ukraine on election day, and this will mean a low turnout , and therefore the illegitimacy of the government that was elected in such circumstances. opponents of the elections also say that the main priority now is to win the war, and for that society must be united. the elections, which are accompanied by hellish debates between supporters of different political forces, undermine national unity. in addition, holding elections costs a lot. money, and as long as the war continues, is such expenditure justified? experts say that ukraine
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cannot yet hold elections, but it must prepare for them. in october, the international foundation for electoral systems and the civil opora network prepared a roadmap for electoral reform in ukraine. these are the steps the country needs to take to meet the challenges and make progress in holding democratic elections after victory. it's really about restoring electoral reform is currently stalled, parliamentarians must get back to work and see how to resolve these issues, the legislative framework for elections in ukraine must be finalized so that we can hold the best post-war elections with the least disruption, and this is a significant amount of work to ensure that all ukrainian refugees who are currently abroad. the venice commission recommends holding elections at least a year after the electoral reforms. in this way , both the population and the candidates will have time to sort it out. with changes, but if war will drag on for years, how long can democracy last without a change in power? olga
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aivazovska says that when the war becomes less intense, and the fighting becomes at least a little more predictable, it will be possible to hold elections. i hope that the sanctions, especially the technological ones, will bring their result, and russia will not be able to have and produce so many missiles and use them throughout the territory of ukraine, and then of course we will use this one. to hold elections, but already with some predictability of security, as it was before, from 2014 until the full-scale invasion, in we already have such experience. i put a full stop in the question. on november 6, president zelenskyi. after several ambiguous comments about the possibility of presidential elections next spring, he finally stated clearly: now is not the time for elections. in wartime, when there are many challenges, it is completely irresponsible, somehow so frivolous, and playfully throwing the issue of
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elections into society. i believe that now is not the time for elections. maria ulyanovska, dmytro savchuk, voice of america. the draft law on the banning of religious organizations related to the country aggressor, necessary, because russia's use of the influence of infidels during the war poses a significant danger for ukraine. yakivdovaikh, the chief rabbi of kyiv and ukraine, told about this in an interview with natalia churikovva. as part of the all-ukrainian council of churches and religious organizations, he recently met with american politicians and officials. bleich, as well as representatives of other churches and religions in ukraine. are convinced that aid to israel does not exclude, but only complements aid to ukraine, and the us should support both democracies in its own interests. rerebeblai, at the meetings you had to defend the decision of the verkhovna rada of ukraine to adopt in the first reading a bill by which the authorities are going to ban religious organizations
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that are related to the country of the aggressor. of course, everyone understands that we are talking about the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate. you said that you had doubts about this bill, but in consultation with the government and parliament as part of the council of churches and religious organizations, you still supported the decision, can you say why? first of all, i don't have to defend the decision of the ukrainian parliament, it's not my job, it's just that when people ask questions and question this bill, they should understand the realities of life in ukraine during the war, i don't agree that it affects the ukrainian right-wing church of the moscow patriarchate, because i think , that the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate is able to find an opportunity to make the law not apply to it, this is what i can do, i do not justify or defend the law, i explain the bill so that people understood its importance for ukraine, as a country that is in a state of war, this is the first thing, i think that this law can affect any
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religious organization that is not only connected, but has a source of financial support to ukraine. it is a difficult task in wartime to protect the liberties of individuals and organizations, regardless of whether they are religious or not, and at the same time to protect the security of the country against an aggressor who will seek any means to attack and destroy ukraine. this is the source of it all. that's why we were all asked about the law. it didn't happen on empty space the speaker of the parliament discussed the betrayal of churches and religious organizations, the necessity of the law, the plan for the adoption of the law. law. studied by religious organizations, and so far no one from any religious organization, including the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, has come out and spoken during the meeting, said that it is not good, we do not want it, we do not agree with it. the law says that if an aggressor country is going to use a religious organization to try to influence life in ukraine, this is a danger
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for ukraine. and the reason is that it makes sense, it's a law that makes sense, it's a law that says if a country is an aggressor. is going to use a religious organization or any other organization to try to influence people, life in ukraine, this is a danger for ukraine, that's all. now the issue of aid to ukraine and israel is being discussed in the congress , there is a question about whether it is necessary to agree on the aid in one package or not, have you been asked about who should be helped first, or who should be helped at all, ukraine or israel? i do not think that the united states should help either one or the other. the united states is big and strong enough to help both. i think it's wrong to even ask the question like that because we're taught not to look at things out of context. you can't just look at what's happening in ukraine, you don't see the global picture. just as we cannot look only at what
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is happening in the middle east, or in israel, without seeing the global picture. let's look at the global picture. what i see, and i think a lot of other people see, is that what we call the harbinger of evil where there is russia and iran cooperating, iran helping russia, russia helping iran along with north korea and syria, and then we see the same players fighting against ukraine helping to support hamas, so it must be connection, so if the us is going to fight evil against this axis of evil, it doesn't matter if they do it in ukraine, if they do it in israel, if it's hamas, or if it's the russian government. which acts like hamas, which terrorizes the civilian population of ukraine, perhaps just fight terror where it is. when the hamas attack happened, many ukrainians. expressed their sympathy and solidarity with the israelis, how did they react to them in israel and more broadly in the world jewish community? knowing that the ukrainians still have their very brutal war, but they showed
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their cordiality to the israelis. most israelis, it was very welcome, i can't speak for the government of israel, but certainly for the people of israel, i think it would be very encouraging to hear and know that as countries that support israel. ukraine still has a hero image in israel. it was expected that she would last three days, three weeks, and here you are, you see, 21 months. ukraine is held in high esteem. ukraine still has the image of a hero in israel, ukraine, about which there were different expectations, because people thought that there was a small army, a weak army, they expected it to last three days, three weeks, and here you are, you see, 21 months, ukraine is in high esteem, so i think it is important that ukraine supported israel and it with hamas against terror, just as i think it is important israel's support of ukraine in its struggle with russia. i think it's important to be on the right side of history.
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when you make a list of who's on this side and you see it's russia, iran, north korea and syria, and on the other side is the united states and the european union, and you have to decide whose side you're on, and in the case of israel, i think that they want to be on the side of the democratic countries of the world. thank you for the brain with the voice of america. thank you very much for the invitation. tempered by anger. this documentary is about two participants the revolution of dignity, which together went through the war in donetsk region, and then a full-scale invasion, ukrainian director lesya kalynska filmed for almost 10 years. the film premiered this summer at the tribeca film festival in manhattan, ahead of its 10th anniversary. revolution of dignity, the film was released in new york, say iryna solomko and pavlo terekhov, film director lesya kalinska
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went through her first revolution back in 1990, when she was a student in kyiv and took part in the revolution on the granite, we called it the revolution among ourselves children because we actually were children, but this is the feeling. that history unfolds before your eyes and that this is not a typical revolution in which people beat cars , glass and so on, but that it was such a space for creating culture, creating the future, a huge number of such people who could really create this concept of the future of ukraine , it struck me so much at the time, i always wanted to film something about so when the first protests began in november 2013 on maidan nezalezhnosti in kyiv, lesya, who at that time was studying and living in new york, immediately returned to the capital, she found
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a cameraman and went with him to the maidan, where she began to write a chronicle of the euromaidan. i remember the first days, it was the filming of les poderevyanskyi in september, then kozak system, who opened the field for us to shoot scenes of the maidan. and then we filmed the musician boys and polozhynskyi and foma, and donii was there, i remember, and sashko polozhynskyi said, listen, what are you doing, why are you filming me, filming real heroes, let me introduce you, and he us introduced vadym vasylchuk, who was the commander of the maidan at that time, and him they started filming his story, and then, thanks to vadim, we got to know pavel and svitlana, who became our main characters, for the first time i saw pashka, well, yes, the image is really colorful,
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kalinska calls february 18, when they started , one of the most poignant and dramatic moments of the filming massive bloody clashes at the institute, and it was just such a moment, well, really exceptional, because when they began to surround us, and we realized that anything could happen, in fact, vadym vasylchuk, our hero, saved my life, because he was ready for how to bring people out, where to bring them out, the director calls the work on the picture a kind of magic, because after the events of the revolution of dignity, the so-called russian spring came, which took crimea and part of donbas from ukraine, the main character of the film, pavlo , is from donetsk, which prompted him to go to war, his city was occupied. and he decided to volunteer, the creeks, it was like a war of extermination, and we knew that people had to be taken out, well, i’m from donetsk, so i’m saying that
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i, we started work on the removal of civilians, that’s all ok, everything is ok, and so we decided that this is not a finished story, we have to continue this shoot and work on. the film crew worked on the film for almost 10 years. tje collins is one of the producers of the documentary, he joined the team in 2016, he says. he was interested in learning more about ukraine, and he was amazed when he saw the materials that lesya and her colleague ruslan batytsky managed to capture. i was very impressed by what i saw as an american, i saw tanks in eastern ukraine, i saw gunfights with soldiers, and many the images i saw were reminiscent of world war 2 scenes, i'm from a military family myself, my father is in the navy, all my uncles, my grandfather were in world
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war 2, so it was important for me to support this film. i feel an urgent need to tell the stories of ukrainians and make this war known, i was very angry that the world did not talk about it. even after russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, says lesia kalinska, the us still has little knowledge of modern european history. to she came to this conclusion after showing the painting to students in pennsylvania. and the students wrote small works after watching ours. film, and some of them wrote, we did not know about the maidan at all and we did not know at all that the war in ukraine began in the 14th year. screenings of the film in new york lasted a week. according to kalynska, attention to events in ukraine is fading, so to gather people, you have to be creative. it is very difficult for them to look at explosions and injuries, that's why, now more and more, i feel
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like ukrainian year changes tactics here, that is, it arranges concerts, jazz concerts, rock concerts, other events in order to attract the american public, so that they first come, fall in love with ukrainian culture and then continue to help, especially this is important now, because the next american election is just around the corner, one of those who help the authors of the film to gather viewers or talk about ukraine... is the famous american historian timothy snyder. he was personally present at one of the screenings, and after that he took part in discussion of the film and those events. this is a beautiful film and everyone should see it. it's a documentary that looks at the human side of the story, but because it's all in the first person, we also get to some very important facts that are already historical truth. for example, the film clearly shows that russia's intentions to destroy the ukrainian state are part of it.
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long-term plan, the film also clearly shows that the emergence of ukrainian civil society is also a long-term process, these are two very important historical moments that can be seen in the film. bruni burest, film producer and senior advisor at the sundance documentary institute. she also came to see tempered with anger. he says that the film gives hope to the younger generation, which looks at history and does not want to repeat the mistakes of the past. i think this movie has an appeal to the world. i think the more people can see that, the more people will come together and say we're all in this together, the world is in this together, and we in the u.s. should definitely be in this world with ukraine and help create something very positive for the future. for almost 10 years of work on the film, the group managed to shoot more than 500 hours of material. many important moments, both historical and personal, were not included in the picture. therefore, kalinska and kolin are currently working on making
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a documentary based on this footage... which will become a real living documented history. colin is currently working on finding partners and funding and hopes to have the project off the ground next year. from new york iryna solomka, pavlo terikhov, voice of america. download mobile voice of america app. the application allows you to bypass blocking automatically thanks to the built-in vpn service. read news, watch informative programs and. and also listen to podcasts of the ukrainian voice of america service. we conclude with this, maria prus worked for you in the studio. see also our daily briefings from monday to friday at 18. on youtube and facebook, where you can ask our presenters questions live. thank you for your trust, see you on the air.

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