[000:00:00;00] any processes, and unfortunately, the government is absolutely not responsible for these people , well, how can it oppress and persecute those people who, together with those who are the same as them and are the same as them, rob our state, and this problem, if you count how much money was spent, or stolen, and spent as intended, you can imagine how many directly... tanks, the same, just tanks, how many rockets, how many shells could be purchased, it's hard to even imagine, calculate for yourself, directly stole more than a billion dollars only for the ministry of defense, and one tank, a german leopard, costs 12 million. so, count how many leopards we could buy, what a powerful, armored wall we were going through, we could go on the offensive, even without taking into account

the same minefields, i’m not saying . how many projectiles could we drop on the head of the enemy, how many directly normal powerful unmanned aerial vehicles with a long range could we drop on the enterprises of the russian federation, which continue to work directly without orders and i ask the question, and where well, our super pr people from certain intelligence organizations, who, instead of directly destroying these enterprises, talk about small ones, which have absolutely no direct significance from my point of view , these landings, except for pr to crimea, they have no, no need for this there is no thank you, mr. general, for the conversation, it was serhiy kryvanos, major general of the reserve of the armed forces of ukraine, former deputy secretary of the national security and defense council. friends, we

continue our broadcast on the tv channel espresso, as well as on our platforms on youtube and facebook, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook, i encourage you to like this video, in order for this video to be trending on youtube and facebook, and participate in our vote on youtube, we are asking you today whether you trust the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, yes no, i look on youtube, already 98% of those who voted trust zaluz. in addition, we conduct the same survey over the phone broadcast and we also ask you whether you trust the head of the armed forces of ukraine zaluzhny yes 0800 211-381 no 0800 211-382 here we see that 95% of those who have already voted trust zaluzhny and 5% do not trust us call

at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote , and remember that all calls to these numbers are free. volodymyr tsybulko, political expert, people's deputy of ukraine of the fourth convocation, will be with us later on the air. mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you on our air. congratulations, congratulations. mr. volodymyr, over the course of a week , we have seen how the head of the armed forces was trying to roll out the head of the armed forces in a political-technological way. of ukraine valery zaluzhny, first in ukraine, people's deputy marina bezugla contributed to this, then politician andriy senchenko, then there were also opinion leaders in social networks, then it all spilled over to russia, russia joined in, ours already played along, they started the same thing there exactly. we are asking about trust in the head of the armed

forces of ukraine, and i want to ask you how it is related to political technologies, what are they trying to do with the industrious now, and in what way are they presenting it all, and how are they playing this party, and what should be the result of this party, the resignation of the industrious, well here it is necessary to understand that the bank's actions acted according to a certain logic formation from zelenskyi and in the image of a military leader, but objectively, given the weakness of state institutions , except for the armed forces, churchill did not come out of zelenskyi, objectively grew up against the background of war, a popular military leader, general zaluzhnyi, who is engaged exclusively in war, i.e. to people

what is impressive is that zaluzhnyi remains a military professional and nothing more, he does not interfere anywhere else, this means that the more professional a person is, the more... more effectively he engages in his professional activity, the more trust he will have. let's see how, in general, all these 20 -plus months of war, the political power operates, it constantly switches its attention from its specialized activity to something else. minister of finance marchenko assures western partners that we have the lowest level of corruption in the last 20 years, wait. and what marchenko is, head of naboo or nazk? why doesn't he talk about finance, he talks about corruption, in our country, for example, the minister of foreign affairs , kuleba, says that we will have

the hardest winter, and in fact he speaks as the minister of energy, not as the minister of foreign affairs, and this is the people , well, enough, let's say, throws uncertainty into such a situation. when they see general zaluzhny, who acts clearly within the limits of his competence and acts effectively and responsibly, they, well, let's say this, add to him the level of such and political leadership, too, why did the bank get so upset this publication in the economist, which is narrow-profile, in which general zaluzhny does not go beyond the boundaries of, well, let's say, military needs, he talks about military needs, about the needs of the army, about the need to win, but it caused

simply incredible panic on banking, why did the specialist in international relations ihor zhovka rush to comment on the narrow-profile military publication of general zaluzhnyi , that is, it seems to me that the banking industry...' in a big trap, they were playing this, well , imitation, of great activity, or, well, activated activity, but everyone was not responsible for their own, not for their own profile, everyone commented on other than their own profile activity, and this is simply people, people simply take out their brains, that is why there is such distrust in any actions of the bank, in any actions, and there even in those situations when banking is more or less honest, even in those situations the banking is not trusted, but let's see, we now have the prospect of gaining membership in the european union, and right away banking in

our eyes, it would seem in the interests of ukraine , fools western partners, talking about the fact that there are 90, well, that we voted in full, prepared all seven criteria, votes. the commission assesses four of the seven criteria as acceptable, instead of assuring ukrainians that the authorities are now consolidating their efforts to accept these necessary three criteria and to start a full-fledged dialogue on ukraine's full membership in the european union on december 14 , we are now being told all kinds of fairy tales, instead of clearly performing and acting in a partnership manner, it is predicted, because well it is clear that politicians in many situations, speech is given in order to mislead

, well, a rival or an adversary, but constantly mislead his own people and his own voter, then the voter has a suspicion that the politician believes his... choose his enemy, or, or let's say, not an enemy, no, but, not quite intelligent, yes, let's say, this, this, as an option, well, look, the same can be said about another story, which also has been swinging for the past three months, first ruslan stefanchuk, about what we are studying the possibility of holding elections during the war, then several statements by minor officials or representatives of the president's office. then dmytro kuleba, the minister of foreign affairs, said last week that we do not rule out the possibility of such an election, and he said this in an interview with the skynews television company, and this week volodymyr zelenskyy says: well, listen as much as you can

already shake up the situation in ukraine, let there be no elections, we have to fight, we have to win, and it seems that this whole topic went not from the representatives of the monomajority, but from someone else, that is, we did not do this, we, you asked if we wanted elections, no, no, we did not want, although before that they abandoned this story, this story was for a very long time in... the discussion of various tv channels, social networks , they studied the opinion of why, for what according to you, the authorities did this, this is the first and second, are the dots finally set that there will be no elections, the same , as yermak said yesterday that, i don't know that i would fire or want to fire a scumbag, zelensky, i have such a there is no information, but it is a fact. the fact remains that they can fire zaluzhny and

announce elections next year, or not? well, the way they acted in the field of elections is really a strange story, because at first there was a strange statement by her to the romanian media, by zelski that if the elections are held during the war, then i will leave, i will not leave my country, and if after... the war, then i will not participate, well, roughly so, that is , the situation began to play out, the bank came up with a stretch, how to avoid it elections and maintain power, because with regard to the verkhovna rada , and here the situation is more or less unambiguous, the legislation provides for a change in the composition of the parliament, after legal elections, since it is impossible to hold elections during

martial law, here, well, this primacy, or primacy, of the verkhovna rada remains, and the rada works until the election of a new member of the parliament, what about the president, there is no such principle here, because we have a parliamentary-presidential republic and the parliament is the basis, so to speak, of the continuation of this or that power, and now zelsky put on a big one. hard, because finally they played, played and made a mistake about the cost of the elections, which they themselves were afraid of, because before zelensky's statement that we don't need any elections during the war, er, the cec calculated the cost of next year's elections, how much they are worth, how much they will cost, and when the amount of 9.5 billion was named, it, so to speak, threw

even such crooked people sitting on the banks off balance, not to mention the fact that the opponents of the government are also quite experienced politicians , but in my opinion, the amount is 9.5 billion were afraid of banks more than, that is, when life brings them back to some kind of reality, and not to the information bubble in which they are for several hours, or they try to... burden the whole society, then sometimes you hear realistic assessments from them, the same yarmak suddenly appeared in the media and talked about the four criteria that zelenskyi demands in terms of elections, that is, it is about finances, he cannot afford to hold elections in a warring country, wait, but and what did you

then spread for several months? all kinds of rumors about the preparations for the elections, but the most important thing is what yarmak says about trust, so we started our dialogue with trust, so after zelskyi made a statement that we don't need elections, she just came from the bank , instruction to prepare political passports of the territory. you, you just, you just explain to our tv viewers what the political passport of the territory means, so that the viewers understand what the political passport means, this is the first thing, the presence of media resources in a certain territory, then, the configuration of local councils, where the councils were formed according to the party principle, not according to the majority voter, there, about the configuration of factions

, where there was a majority voter, where, well, there is probably less of a barrier, less than 10,000 voters, there, in essence , all the same, deputies, even if they are majoritarians, they are somehow connected with one or another party, that is, it is the configuration of political forces in a certain territory, then the media resources they possess, political sponsors... what finances, on they can resist any of the local, say, rich people, and that's it opportunities for, for example, large labor collectives, then the popularity of the national media in the territory, what channels are watched by the residents of the territory, which ones, what press they read, which internet resources they read, then, well, a certain

list of such public figures who can shape public sentiments, in short, this is all a toolkit for organizing elections, and this passport of the territory is looked at by political technologists and then they are laid out in detail, the fact is that here on the surface there is a corruption situation, because this whole the information that will be collected by the bank, it will immediately be on the desks of all the heads of the branches of the party servants of the people, and mr. the servant of the people, having spent funds from the budget, will receive, well, let's say this, an unpaid, unpaid benefit, that is, as soon as these documents, certificates end up on the table, in fact, this is a very strange story, because

really active living parties, they themselves have such portraits of territories , and they have these references, just in dynamics, that is... live parties analyze changes in people's moods, changes, for example, in the main financial players in these territories, investors who appear, how the economy of the region is changing, the war has passed, destroyed a lot of enterprises, maybe now the structure of taxes and taxpayers is changing, and now we are observing another moment, the budget voted by the verkhovna rada. .. took the pddfo from the local self-government, well, there is a military pdf, and this means that now the economy of these regions will simply collapse, by the way, mr. volodymyr, about the investors and sponsors of future races, i can’t help but mention igor kolomoiskyi, because today

, kolomoiskyi's defense asked that he be released from sizo under house arrest, the shevchenkivskyi district court refused, well, that is, the lawyers said that he was not in good health and asked to change the preventive measure to house arrest. lawyers explain this by the deterioration of the oligarch's health during his stay in sizo. let's listen to what kolomoiskyi's lawyer , oleksandr lysak, said, explaining the need for kolomoiskyi to get out of prison. we will use this right and appeal to the kyiv court of appeal. appeal complaint against this decision, we believe that this decision does not meet the requirements of procedural legislation, well, we will comment further after the appeal decision, because if , for example, the appellate instance leaves it, as they say, will not consider our appeal complaint, of course we will appeal to the supreme court in this regard,

so that the supreme court will give an assessment. kolomoisky in sizo is a certain sign, probably for the western community and the united states of america, that zelensky is fighting the oligarchs or those who are called oligarchs, and it is obvious that also an answer to all the accusations of european countries that we did not fulfill the points regarding the restriction, work, or actions of oligarchs in ukraine, and we do not fight corruption, including political corruption, what do you say about the future of kolomoisky, taking into account what the role... he played in bringing zelenskyi to power, well, in fact , kolomoiskyi joined the work for the victory of zelenskyi before the end of the first round, in fact he played his role in

the second round, and about 73%, that’s basically and the work of kolomoisky, too, because it seems to me that oligarchs just between the first and second round, managed to extinguish several plots extremely sensitive for zelsky, which would simply break the entire logic of the race. and, i understand that zelsky is grateful to these people, but grateful, but not for long. as for kolomoisky, now his place and role, we can say that he is really a figure, uh, who, because of the arrest, got into an interesting media field, that is, he, he is one of those who know how to take advantage of opportunities , well , drawing attention to

himself with these lawsuits, and he, on the one hand, defended so would to say himself from the american themis, because he is wanted by the american judicial authorities, several states, and not one state, but the second one, that his stay in the ukrainian sizo really protected him from another ukrainian structure from nabu, which is conducting several more cases, and here ... it seems to me that there is a very, well, realistic suspicion that the sbu and beb saved, protected kolomoisky himself from nabu, eh, and there are already tens of billions worth of cases going on, no, no, 500 million, or something , well, billions also arose here, but not so terrible, that is kolomoisky in the current situation, he is still a player, because the main

media resource of the government is the channel, well , relatively speaking, letter plus letter, and the co-owners of this channel, the co-owner is medvedchuk, this is when the government from day to night tried to to invite poroshenko to medvedchuk, while at that time she herself was grazing on the canal, the owner of which is medvedchuk. well, kolomoiskyi has already , as it were, handed over the management of the collective there, but, but, this whole action with kolomoiskyi is actually a surrogate, well, one can say a hybrid game with regard to the performance of ukraine criterion

lobbying and the influence of oligarchs, but look, look, the most interesting thing in this story is that the 2024 budget was approved yesterday by the verkhovna rada of ukraine, and there is an item on the financing of a single telethon, 2 billion hryvnias for the next year, for a single telethon, this pool tv channels owned by oligarchs, and in fact these 2 billion uah will be distributed between the groups of kolomoisky, pinchuk, some newly created channels that came out of rinat akhmetov, and how then, how then to explain to our western partners that we fight the oligarchs, and at the same time we take this money out of the budget, money that should go to defense, but we finance or refinance, as it should be said correctly, the oligarchs' tv channels, mr. serhiy, there are two violations of the criteria here. because supposedly one of the criteria that was adopted is about

electronic media services, which is also an electronic media service, that is, this law on electronic media services actually provided for the freedom, well , the improvement of the issue of freedom of speech, that is , the launch, return to the broadcast of patriotic channels, in including espresso, instead they played this hybrid game. with this law, and with the arrest or detention of kolomoiskyi, they are playing a hybrid scenario instead of adopting it, because we know that democracy is laws and procedures, so instead of adopting a law about oligarchs, they want to present to the europeans a plot with the criminal prosecution of kolomoiskyi as well, the mechanism for solving the problem with the oligarchs. well, you meant the register of oligarchs, not the law, because they passed the law, and the register was supposed to start working

on may 1, 22, and since the war started, then they said, well, we already have almost no oligarchs - said zelensky, despite the fact that at the same press conference at which he spoke about it, pinchuk was sitting, oleksandr kwasniewski, the former president of poland, was sitting next to him, well, there were his old friends connections, there, connections, let's say, through and including the democratic party of the usa, well, pinchuk and, but, in fact, relations with the oligarchs, they do not exist, that is, there is still a law on lobbying needed , there and there, in fact, we need a system, a set of system distancing measures... limitation of direct influence on ukrainian politics by the oligarchs, this is important, i think that it would also be worthwhile to revise

the law on, well, for example, political parties, they must be made transparent to the extent that party finances, even though parties report through nazk about their finances, almost 200 ukrainian parties write reports to nazk there, even those that are allegedly removed from registration, but the procedure is not yet complete, they all report to the central committee, but this is not enough, because suddenly during the elections we we will get a situation when...' without extra payments, representatives of those or other parties, will simply begin to dominate on certain tv channels, and we will get absolute, inequality, different subjects of the race, and accordingly the result will be distorted, i.e. ukrainians, ukrainians will once again be spoiled by some kind of tv product, and not real

political power. mr. volodymyr, as a political technologist, how do you assess these political jealousies that exist at the level of the civilian co-command of ukraine and the military, you know, zelenskyi and his entourage, they come from a feudal environment, well, that is , everyone knows very well that private business in it's such feudalism for us, i'm the boss of tydurak, i'm the owner of a business, i can wipe your feet at any time, that is, a hired worker can't protect us anywhere. and here in the situation of such monopolization of everything and everything, we see that they have monopolized even the parliament, they are monopolizing, they forbid deputies, not only from their own faction, but also from other factions, to attend all kinds of international conferences, this is completely ridiculous, just during the war , any, well, the more horizontal

communications a country builds, the easier it is for it to defend its interests, on various platforms in the world. here we see the united states, where the republicans are fiddling with the law on aid to ukraine. why not send a huge landing force there, including deputies? no, deputies are not allowed to leave, they specifically did not let volodymyr aryev, an honorary, by the way, an honorary delegate of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, to the conference today, that's why. because he criticizes the government too much, well, this is ridiculous, this is generally bullying, to be honest, this, i think that stefanchuk after this, is not out of place in the parliament, i think that he will still be haunted by the contempt of ukrainians for the rest of his life, thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr, the time of our program is coming to an end, thank you for participating in the program, it was volodymyr sybulko,

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