[000:00:00;00] i don't remember what concerns the ships, well, there is no such possibility to hide them, and the fact is that, let's say, until the end of the cold war, it was, well, it was not very relevant, because such capabilities of satellite intelligence , as it was not there now, and then there were, let’s say, the most capable satellite images, they did not give such clarity as they do now, even, that is, commercial satellites, now indeed, when a ship or a submarine is in base points, or worse for them in dry dock, it makes it very, very possible for them to plan and conduct

such an operation fairly quickly. which we have seen in recent months and they are quite effective, the only thing that the adversary can do is they can somehow protect these bases, which is either air defense systems, maybe it is some kind of physical defense objects, such as boss barriers, which we see, for example, that they strengthened such physical protection, which means about... the kerch bridge, also by installing such of physical structures under water, and perhaps camouflage, that is, so that there is no possibility to see the same ship that is in the dock, it is possible to disguise it there, well, again, this requires the power of means,

so that they are captain nemo, the secret one there some kind of bunker for boats, such, well, i don't know such, and mr. andriy, briefly, finally, a tragic episode related to civilian shipping in the black sea happened this week, and a ship, a civilian vessel that was supposed to take out ore, from port of odessa and was already on the approach, actually to the point privations of the enemy, but do we have, let's say... any opportunities to protect civil shipping, or do we have to hope only that in the near future their planes simply won't risk flying closer? well, look, for their planes, there is not much risk, and now, because the tatar is at this distance, well, we have no

way to intercept the plane at all. of this missile until the moment of its launch, and what is characteristic is that this missile, it is kha-31p, it is anti-radar, that is , it is a homing head, and it is passive and it follows on the source of electromagnetic signal radiation, for this vessel, it was a navigational radar station, as i understand it, and therefore this missile simply hit the superstructure, where this radar station was located. station, unfortunately, now, well, in principle, if we take the military , there are ways to prevent such and such attacks, and there are two of them , the first is the presence of air defense systems, and shore -based bases so that they can , at least within our territorial waters, could cover them, but i

understand that some... a certain amount we have such forces and means , but they are not enough, well, physically, we just have a rather serious and the length of the coastline, we cannot, well, have such a number, although i think that certain lessons will be learned from this, what happened and maybe somehow we will strengthen the southern port in this direction, and because shipping is very important for us, and secondly - to destroy it. such are based at airfields, we know that such operations are also carried out, and well, our military knows where such planes are based, on the territory of crimea, well, the third will be promising later, these two points, in principle, these two directions can be solved now, if only partially, and the third position is the availability of

planes, 16, which, if we get them, they can to fight against such planes, well , the enemy on level ground, on level ground over the waters of the black sea. i just wanted to clarify about the f-16, how they will change the situation, you answered, and then the last question, regarding the kerch bridge, they put there a very, i understand, powerful power defense and including there and smoke devices there and others, and nets, as you said, how much more protected it is now than before, and whether an effective, successful attack by our armed forces really remains a reality, well really, they are constantly,

so they are supposedly building up this defense there, depending on how we attack, but again, well, to completely exclude the fact that, which means, we can damage or destroy this bridge, well, they can’t, but i think that with the arrival of new weapons, an example of the same atapak missiles in the shock variant, it is quite possible, because the speed of this missile is such that it is very difficult to intercept the pppo system by the russians, but for the poet, well, and then, as for other forces and means to solve this task, i think that our the military, they constantly... monitor the situation and look, well, look for weak spots in the enemy's defense, and then use them. thank you, mr. andrii, for this inclusion, for your expert assessment of recent events. we will remind that

andrii rezhenko, the captain of the first, was in contact with the studio reserve rank of the naval forces of the armed forces of ukraine and a strategic expert of the sonata company. well, i think it’s great news, as i said quite well... well done, mr. andriy, this may not be a very large-scale operation, but the main thing that is very tangible for chornomskyi is that it ’s not reversible, it just doesn’t leave them, you know, space to think, that they are safe and to guarantee to themselves and internally , even that they will remain in crimea, because crimea is not a home for them, and our army makes it clear almost every day, we thank our it's very cool to the people who plan it, but at the same time, the local population continues to live in a complete information vacuum, unless you live very close to the scene of some kind of explosion or near the sea and you can watch the

robots talk about what they heard, what happened, what happened, this is exactly what happened today with the barracks in chornomorsk, again we do not have official confirmation yet, but in social networks, information spread that they were tired, let’s say, and the local gauleiter even ordered to clean them the whole information field, i don't know how much it is possible on the internet, in order to close this topic for the local, well, i think it is if it doesn't escape them, that is a bad habit, a bad habit, but less so, a few more important messages , we understand that the tectonic upheavals that took place a few months ago in the general south of our country are also making certain adjustments to the landscape of the temporarily occupied

crimea in its northern central part. part the biloghirskyi reservoir actually became completely shallow, this indicates certain processes, we must admit that the occupiers, in principle , know how to deal with similar situations situationally, because the poor functioning of the north crimean canal, a few years before that, taught them to overcome this situation, at least again for pleasing the eyes of the local population. literally in a few moments, i will immediately announce, we will be able to discuss another very painful issue for crimeans, with which they are increasingly turning to me. we are talking about pension provision, i would like to remind you that people from the occupied territories, for example, the kherson region, or the newly occupied territories of donetsk, luhansk oblasts, and zaporizhzhya oblasts. have the right to continue to receive a ukrainian pension, even if they remain under occupation, but the residents of the annexed crimea in 2014, and let's say, and human rights defenders even see this as a certain

discriminatory norm, which is why they appealed to the ministry of reintegration temporarily in august 2022 occupied territories of ukraine, that people who are leaving for example... crimea, starting from february 22, did not have to prove that they, sorry, are not deer and that they do not receive any financial support from the russian federation. i understand ukraine's position. ordinary people may find it convenient to live under occupation, when the occupier gives you money, and your state provides , on the other hand, and we, as a democratic state governed by the rule of law, cannot really discriminate against our own citizens, and we must answer to them, especially if they retired and paid taxes all their professional careers life in ukraine. well, yes, of course, i would ask the experts, because in fact i think that there are pension accounts of ukrainian

citizens there, whom they temporarily consider their own, then in principle, well, in my opinion, there is nothing so catastrophic here, because you know who wanted to adapt to the occupation, he adapted a long time ago and now the situation is such that, well, it is actually a war, and i think that it is now possible to determine that a person lives and does not live in occupied crimea, but lives in ukraine or in another country, he is no longer in occupation is not there. kuryshko, patron saint permanent representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea. mrs. olya, we congratulate you. glory to ukraine. congratulations, glory to the heroes. an extremely painful issue has arisen, people who decide for themselves, primarily for security reasons, to leave the territory of the occupied crimea, are trying to do it imperceptibly, for the gaulleiters of the occupation administrations. therefore, once again, they are actually afraid to turn to the locals. pension funds, some receive pensions, in particular

, in order to take this or that piece of paper or some kind of paper, i can't even name it a document stating that they refuse a russian pension, some of them have to go to military commissariats, if they are servicemen, former ukrainians who have long been retired, retired even before 2014, but situationally, i cannot blame people from to stay, stayed to live in their own house, this absolutely does not mean that people support the occupation in general, but we as a state actually force these people to go to these authorities, inform the russian occupation authorities that they are leaving, draw attention to these people, and they cannot receive pension insurance in ukraine without this piece of paper, yes, congratulations once again, yes, in fact, this problem has existed for a long time, actually, since the very beginning

of the occupation, this procedure existed, as a result of changes, yes in the legislation, which related to the pension payment procedure , it is currently in effect, and they provide that the renewal of payment, pension payments for residents of the temporarily occupied territory of crimea, is possible only after the pension fund of ukraine receives information about non-receipt or the termination of your pension in the temporarily occupied territory by the aggressor state, these provisions were in force and they continue to be in force, in the conditions of a full-scale invasion, we also received many appeals and at the moment we also receive appeals from pensioners who come together with families from the temporarily occupied territory of crimea and want to continue due to the break in diplomatic relations with the russian federation.

exchange of information does not take place conditionally, and in its answers the pension fund notes that it cannot until the end of martial law, before our victory, cannot receive, confirm according to the procedure specified in the legislation, whether or not this person will receive a pension from the aggressor state, eh, that is why we raised this issue at many meetings and appealed to the pension fund, to of the ministry of social policy, and talked about the fact that this issue needs to be resolved, because in fact, it is like the only, the only source of income, yes, funding for such people who are fleeing from the war with their family and have this money live here in controlled territory. currently, there is a registered draft law, 9453, it has already passed the first reading, was taken as a basis, it should be finalized between, between.

readings, we partially know, and information about this, he should improve this situation , because it is on the initiative of the ministry of social policy and the pension fund, there should be a simplification, regarding the appointment, restoration, yes, restoration of receiving pension benefits for such citizens, about objectively, it does not remove any burden and does not significantly solve this... problem, but he removes this obligation to receive, pension case or notification , i.e. it is assumed that this should be done in a declarative manner, i.e. a person has to...' declare that he does not receive a pension, and he, from that, from the experience that we have, and as human rights organizations say, at this stage in such, in such situations, people turn to the courts, to the courts, they appeal against the refusals of the pension fund, the court takes the side of these people, and

obligates the pension fund fund to resume pension payments, but on the other hand, this of course, an additional burden on a person, this is... a component, now such cases are taken care of by the bpd, they directly publish cases, free of charge by the bureau of free legal aid, legal aid, they provide such categories of people with free legal aid, appeal to the courts in their interests , and now , at the moment , information is being published on their official resources, specifically targeted information about such cases related to the pension: ensuring that they provide such appeal services? mrs. olga, well, this is, of course, a problem, but the problem of people who were forced to leave crimea after, especially after a full-scale invasion , it is much wider, and i am sure that

you, at the presidential office in crimea, have more or less accurate data about how many people in general left from... crimea, i just know that individual cases fled through, in different ways, through russia, through turkey, i personally saw during my volunteer trips there, people who approached to me, they are from crimea, and the kremlin was there, and ukrainians from crimea were, women and children, which, how do you assess the demographic situation now, in terms of our refugees, here after the full-scale second, that and in general, and in terms of how many there are also controversial... how many katsaps of the occupiers who passed through , because there are also different data, there are from 3,000, it seems, or half a million to a million, they say, and no one can say for sure, well, maybe you don’t know for sure, but at least they give you some approximate data, then i

will start with your last question , we can only tentatively estimate from various sources, it is somewhere from 500 to 800,000, only... citizens of the russian federation who came illegally are already difficult to find, and for a number of different reasons, in relation to those who left, very often questions are asked, how interesting really, how many people left temporarily of the occupied territory during the period of full-scale invasion, but unfortunately there is no official information either, since the citizens who leave are not always on the consular register, for example, they cannot help but apply for assistance, that is, they leave and want to continue their, well as, not everyone, for example, stays in their country, there, well, in the nearest country to which they moved for a long period and go on, that is, we cannot say a specific figure, but of course it is thousands of people who left. ms. olya, thank you for taking the time to make this very important comment

. olha kuryshko, deputy permanent representative of the president of ukraine in the autonomous republic of crimea, was in touch with us . of free legal aid works and already publishes cases won by the judges, when in fact, due to the decision , a pension is assigned to a person who left the occupation from february 22 of the year. well, ayder, in conclusion, we have the following information, it was on our air, almost for the first time, information was heard that the recruitment in the battalion... named after noman chelelebihan is underway. yes, yes ukrainians. here, please, the phone, battalion chevron. there you see a portrait of noman chibijakhan, a famous crimean figure, who was killed by the bolsheviks once, yes, and in his memory, in whose honor

this unit is named, a separate assault the battalion is a large unit, there are many positions, many different services, but on ... you saw this recruiting poster in the center, we can show it again, izeta gdanova, in the center, this is the deputy commander of the battalion, former, representative of the president in the interim occupied crimea, and now he, in the combat unit and around it, there are also people, people known, reliable, verified, ukrainians , crimeans, together, phone, you see, contact, do not hesitate, as they say, as the commander says, if not we, then who will liberate crimea, there are both men and people there of visiting age, of course i can't say anything about your specific circumstances there, but think about the fact that you are... citizens of ukraine, especially if you are from crimea, if you are crimean,

you have the opportunity from anywhere in the world, call this phone and ask if there is a position for you in the chilbykhane battalion, which is aimed primarily at where to be released, in this battalion there is recruiting, and in the program of the reformation of the ukrainian army, the new minister rustem said, wrote, that is, recruiting he is in ours the unit in the 48th is working, that is, you can contact directly by phone, you can, for example, mean to go in and even to the military, well, in the procurement center, you can say that i want to serve, who is needed there, not only there, well, in short completely different professions, yes, this is not a big division, and i think that what you know is what you do. recently, the occupiers have been writing a lot about him, not just writing, they are even appointing people who are allegedly involved, although

we cannot know for sure, who are allegedly involved in the formation or participation in they are fighting, and they are demonstrably trying to imprison them, such a case has already happened in the kherson region, just to get into a situation where we will harm, make worse, you know, all of us are here, in principle, a part is being formed, i think that it is their fesbshni, you know. they have to catch someone, they have someone there, there, you know, but you can’t catch everyone, and people still, well, you know, help, i don’t know about this case, most likely, it’s just a joke , their reporting to the management, but, but it means that you have attracted a colossal attention, if they even catch members somewhere in the occupations, well, of course, well, it's still from the blockade of crimea, everything went wrong. this is this battalion, to put it briefly, to remind someone, to refresh someone's memory, this is the same battalion

that was cut out of the blockade of crimea in the 15th year, and then there was a blockade, there was, this unit was created, chilijikhan, how public organizations helped there then, then there was an assault grotto named after namalo chijikhan, who fought in bakhmut, then here... the command entrusted slyamov, general to the director of the tv channel, and now to the captain of the armed forces of ukraine and the commander of this 48th separate assault battalion to form a large crimean unit, and we are very grateful to the command for this, and i think that everyone who is with us, they are very motivated people and will fight very purposefully for their, their small homeland, well, we hope that the people who will apply, in principle, of their own free will and will want to be mobilized, that they can

expect to be provided with all the necessary means in order to effectively fight with, well, i'll just say what's being done now, now new ones for the unit , it's ongoing, join, search in google, donate there, it's a very necessary thing, and we just yesterday assembled a large kit for the communication of the battalion, so that we have there was the best communication and protection and many collected fpv drones that are already working, we will show how they work, and for boats and for engines for assault boats, but all this will continue, thank you, thank you, this is the end of our joint cooperation with the apr and espresso, the together beraber program, where we we are talking about crimea, and we can talk about it next saturday. ayder muzhdabaev and khrystyna yatskiv are

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