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[000:00:00;00] those people who are protesting there, for example, such as some drivers, are waiting for cargo for two weeks to return with their simple, simple cars, for two weeks from the ukrainian side from the ukrainian side to the polish side, because for many please, both ukrainians, and some of them for two weeks, two days, three days for... this is nothing compared to two weeks, and that is what happens when you have to return, and this also turns out to be a drawback here, i always said that we have savagery in ukrainian and polish border and i will adhere to those words, and i will criticize a lot of things on both sides, because i have been regularly crossing the border of poland and ukraine for the last 15 years, and how can you explain it, mr. marko,
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i don't know, i don't know how can it be can i explain, if i were a member of the government , then maybe i would explain, but here we need to ask the people who are responsible for this and take it, moreover, they take state funds for it, they are paid for it so that they are managers , managers, ministers, or whatever else we call them, the heads of those checkpoints, and neither of them could make civilians, as we want to be strong economically in joint cooperation with some border not our own between poland and ukraine, we cannot solve some issues, well, in general, about the deaconship in polish - the ukrainian border, we can actually talk for hours about what is happening there, but if we are talking about today's situation in particular, if even polish carriers are already suffering from this blockade, the forecasts were that this would be
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the blockade continues, or the government can't do anything now, because this is the situation when one goes, the other is not yet formed, and they will form it, this already existing government is most likely as late as december, there are such forecasts of experts, whether they want to intervene or not other polish carriers can intervene in this situation, surely it is easier for colleagues to agree with colleagues, is there such an option? well, i don't know, i don't hear that they're making uh, any attempts to - uh arrangements with their friends, well, as for the government, you asked a good question, is there anything you can do it, you have to want it, well, from what i see, there are no people who want it, it’s like during the grain crisis, until today we haven’t seen lists, companies and nicknames, as a result of which it stayed in poland and did not
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leave further, we did not know the list, although the minister of agrarian policy, mr. telyus, promised that he would make it public, he did not make it public until today, he is retiring, he has not even done that, that is, we will see when the new one arrives government, i think there will be investigations, there will be digging deeply and we will understand who the logistical and transport crises are, but i want to say one thing, some polish companies are fighting for survival, here, too, the ukrainian side needs to understand something that ukraine got the so-called visa-free, but that visa-free, transport, and so actually gave ukraine, did not equal the chance, but gave a little, a better position between the polish ones or, is it cheaper, i understand that this figure is called by the carriers, it should be
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checked. we cannot, but we understand the nature of this, on the one hand, and these benefits for ukrainian carriers are very important, our logistics and economy have collapsed quite seriously, that is, we need such things, well, i am talking about one more political component, in fact, how will a government from the democratic opposition appear, and the president came to poland, at least in this, in this the keys that we have seen are more than good, we have seen good relations at the level of the presidents, and today the president of ukraine zelensky says so, long live a free poland, long live a free ukraine, or when there will be an opposition government and the president, andrzej duda, whom you see relations, they will continue to be so friendly, more than diplomatic, and between the two presidents, will everything be much more complicated here, i think that ukraine has nothing
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to fear, because... in fact , the incoming government is also pro-ukrainian, and maybe there will be cohabitation on that issue, i think between the president of poland and the government. quite so concrete, and this cooperation, i think, will be seen in relation to president duda himself, there are several moments where he struggles, so in fact, when it comes to what will happen after yaroslav kaczyński, he is slowly starting to adjust himself to a leader , when it ends his political career, as the president of poland, of course he will want to stay in politics and i think he will go against jarosław kaczyński and we will see what the effect will be, so i think that at some
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points he may even cooperate with the opposition, who did not extract any contributions from his election defeat and continues the same campaign that he continued in the previous parliamentary campaign, and soon we will have elections to the european parliament, and he is always using the same rhetoric and the same campaign policy , that is, sooner or later, there will be internal struggles for power, and i think sooner or later yaroslav kaczynski will simply retire. thank you, ms. marka, marek šts rand, polish expert journalist, yes, congratulations once again on independence day, was with us in poland on monday, by the way, it will be the first session of the new parliament after the elections , they will start working, then they will create a government and then maybe certain stories may create a government in this way, as they will look at first, and that in poland
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the government may be easier then for us and with to work as poles, because now it was so short, for a few months, actually a break in not very healthy relations, we are going now for a short break, then we will come back, we will talk about what is wrong with media communications, what is wrong with the coverage of various situations in this the world, that is, you get an answer to your question, why do useful idiots and other people get out, when you are sick due to high temperature, the body can lose water, so it is necessary to drink plenty of water. heavy drinking, i.e. drinking a lot? so. when ordinary water not enough, i recommend reo. reo restores the water-electrolyte balance. at herv solution for copious drinking water reo. reo - water for special medical purposes. tired of heavy and bulky forks. then the compact and powerful strong saw from unpack tv is just for you. you will be in one movement with the strongg saw. just look at how
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pass the information to the representatives of the state administration in your area. they will pass on the comments to the person responsible for the condition of the shelter, the recipient's balance and monitor the performance of such works. everyone has the right to try in safety. friends, we are back, and our next interlocutor will be the executive director of a public organization. the first one, quite resonant, is about the fact that honest reporting actually said that photojournalists of the associated press, as well as colleagues from reuters, could have known about the attack by hamas 7 october, but according to some strange standards, they were silent, well, the western media say, we did not know in advance about the attack of hamas on israel, it is about absolute atrocities , a military op has been prepared for them, dismembered,
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in a word, not quite ethical for journalists, unobserved footage and history , and on the other hand, it is even more terrible, if you knew and, referring to some standards, remained silent, then this is also a crime . , because when hamas invaded the territory israel, there were journalists with them, that is, journalists filming, cameramen, not accredited by hamas, no? well, look, it's unknown, oh, but one of the photographers immediately took a picture with the leader of hamas , imagine, that is, people knew, people must have known it, because it was not by chance that the photo appeared, then we will film for you how children are beheaded there, good journalism, ma'am. i, i am very sorry that the ukrainian media
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do not write much about him, because this is an important, very important story that needs to be realized, that needs to be discussed, and so to speak, i would said that it is probably even necessary to express some kind of position, because very often we expect the world media and journalists of other countries to support ukraine, to follow certain rules in covering russia's war against ukraine. the story, yes, although the world media said they didn't know about it, and there, one of the freelancers , what i saw on the news, he was fired, yes, immediately, but it's a very very telling story, it also and indicative in the ukrainian context, because actually, well, i don't remember such a reaction of the world media back then
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in cases when, well, there was, let's say this, not always... the invasion of ukraine, yes, and here , too, the question is, maybe why, why such, such a different reaction, i don't know, we need to talk with colleagues, discuss, and what about to talk to them, ms. dino, what to talk to them, when aljazeera was warned in the last, it was also shown as one example of modern journalism, so manipulated both the picture and the information that in fact it almost lost its... i'm not talking about the pictures, you know, those victims of palestine, who sometimes scratch, then get up early in the frame with they go for a walk in the white area. you see, this, well, aljazeera is of course a tv channel, let's say, of a different culture, yes, not western, and this probably has a very strong influence on how they show the situation in the world, but if we talk about western media, such world
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agents ... an important discussion, this discussion about how we cover wars in general, in different countries of the world, because really, i think that this is a question of balance, which western journalists often cover themselves with, this kind of sterile balance, when they say, well it another point of view, not taking into account that this point of view may come from terrorists, and terrorists are precisely interested in media representation, because all their terrorist... to intimidate the enemy, to intimidate the world, and also to mobilize their supporters, so it is obvious that we have matured a very serious, global discussion at the international level about what is happening in the journalistic profession, i am very sorry that when ukrainian journalists raise these issues at international conferences, we do not have such
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support, and international journalistic organizations react very poorly to online, a classic of manipulation, the so-called, well, in the balance of views, we see more than once how qualified enough with a good yam, tv channels and media in italy, yes, when they, for example, take one point of view of politicians italians, who, like italy, officially support ukraine, but balance them, for example, with the leader of russian fascism, dugin, because what needs to be balanced is terrible . in a word, the balance of sacrifice the holocaust and the gestapo, which included gas, gas. to the camera, somehow it seemed like the page had already been turned, and it turned back before our eyes, unfortunately, very unfortunately, and well, i think that such stories will be repeated if the world media community does not draw conclusions from this, and i want to say , that to some extent the reaction of the officials would be appropriate for me here, otherwise
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it could not be, ms. dyana, i have a somewhat different type of question, because we understand that now, thanks in particular to the huge number of telegram channels, from where probably... most people get information, any statement, any speech of different leaders with different views, is immediately dissected into quotes and from each quote, sometimes even taking it out of context, they make news, and this is generally even worse, for example, there are the latest statements of ramoswamy , when he first called zelensky a natsyk, now he says that the states will simply fall apart if there is any confrontation with russia and china, because these are nuclear states and it will be a disaster, that is , no one writes that, in fact, ramaswamy's chances and in general, some of his ratings are very, very good low, but they present him as a likely candidate for the presidency, ramozwami becomes very , very high, the status of this lie rises
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, clearly, is there any possibility today in our world of access to information and often not... the possibility to quickly check it, you can some mechanisms should be introduced to fix and organize it at least a little, well, you know, this is a very serious, serious layer of problems, here in the issue you raised, in the current world it is very difficult for us, so to speak, to stop the flow of information, which is in social networks, it is practically impossible, and even now in civilized democratic... countries of the world are looking for mechanisms that could affect the spread of disinformation, manipulative content or any other harmful information in social networks, and so far , so to speak, the magic pill is still not invented, but on the other hand, we have from the donbas-media-forum, there was also a discussion
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about a similar topic, a young journalist asked if it was worth it, why we don't have the opportunity, we can't, we don't have the right, he wondered what they say, why not to quote, telegram channels that work in the occupied territories , well, on the other hand, because they say there are no other sources of information from there, but professional journalists, they say, friends, if you quote someone’s behavior, it is already your responsibility, if you spread manipulation or lie, then don't complain that you will have to answer for it one way or another , this is a very... important story, again, we return to the need for a discussion about professional standards, about professional journalists, and if we look at that even the case, and what you said about the previous case, about how journalists work, about the fact that roman mentioned the level of education of journalists, not only in ukraine, but also
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in the whole world, and this level, well it's a little scary because people don't want to understand the context, they don't understand the countries , they don't understand... the events they write about, the situations they write about, they take a very simplistic approach to covering complex processes because it's easier that way for their audiences because they think it's easier, yes the audience will be, as you see, solutions for our internal market, i mean, we have a situation, because we are outraged by what is being done and manipulated around ukraine... sometimes under the guise of standards or other things from the last century, in our , it is quite interesting in our house, so the security service of ukraine opened proceedings against one of the traitors, who was well known in the government for many years in a row, i am talking about diana
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panchenko, as separka, as in fact a person who conducts informational lies special operations against in ukraine, it was opened against it, absolutely identical things are done calmly by all the georgits, and vasi galavanovs, friends , friends of shariiv, absolutely calmly, as if this is a continuation of the journalists' standard activity, they continue to do all this during this war fatigue of the great mechanism medvedchuk and other muraevs and all of this russian tv agency, why so? one is a criminal case, and the other is watching tv, sit down, you see, here why is it necessary to ask the sbu, because here it is difficult for me to answer, why in one in one case, another, but i would like to say here that for sure, well, you ca n't level everyone and everyone under the same ruler, well , put everyone there, or do something, something,
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uh, the question is that each case must be considered separately, and the guilt of each person must be proven separately, this is a very important point , because it is about justice and this, well, ukraine, if ukraine wants to remain a civilized democratic country, this must be remembered, but we must have another history, we need to strengthen the institution of reputation and we need, no one forbids these people to live and work in other areas, to earn their living, yes, but obviously there should be a ban on the profession for those people who led to those events, which we completely agree with, yes mrs. dino, but i wanted to see this mechanism as soon as possible, and not in the distant future, because they harm national security, including in these... diana dutsyk, executive director of kao ukrainian institute of media and communication, we are grateful for the analysis of the situation. and here we have such
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unusual news, it appeared in the ukrainian language a new word burp. why are we saying this, how did it appear, what happened , what exactly does this word mean , our colleague lina chechenina will tell you in a few minutes, she will continue the ater tv channel, roman and i say goodbye , peaceful have a safe evening, without worries, without ppo, without shaheed, without. greetings, friends, for the next half hour we will talk about what happened in ukrainian culture this week, of course, without scandals, we do not miss scandals. one week, because this is ukrainian culture, it is like that, and of course,
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we will be under many circumstances, yes, when our stars of show business do something wrong , you can just say scolding and everyone will understand you, well, it's a normal thing in svetlana loboda, and we'll talk about that, also about the prospect of an influx of television series and about cinema, which will obviously be less and less, i.e. we will again talk about state policy, cinematography and
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