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day that the activists were overthrown. a monument to lenin in the center of the capital on besararab square. good health once again, our program continues, we watched the advertisement, now let's look at the world around ukraine, first of all we will talk about europe, yaroslav voytko, a diplomat, an expert internationalist, will appear before us now, thank you, mr. yaroslav, for finding time for us such an existential question to a certain extent you. should we retreat, let's say this, for example, the magyars say that without some agreements there, we will not let you into europe , the poles say that if the polish soldiers are not exhumed, we will not let them in, in short, there are many options, well, on the one hand to say no, we do not, we do not make any concessions, we continue to conduct our policy

, or to say, okay, for the sake of the great goal, the european perspective of ukraine, we withdraw all claims to magyar problems, to polish problems and are ready to make concessions, your version, my congratulations to you, mr. mykola, and to our viewers. there are more countries that will close recently, this is also, in addition to those you mentioned poland and hungary, these are romania, the federal republic of yugoslavia and slovakia, where the new government is. as for ukrainian interests, we recorded them in the previous composition of the ukrainian parliament, in the ukrainian constitution, that we will join the european union and nato. i , in turn, studied and worked in international economic organizations, this was my version, when it was not yet recorded in the constitution, that it is possible that

ukraine should join another an interesting... international organization, the european free trade association, which includes such good countries as switzerland, liechtenstein, iceland and norway, which decided not to join the european union, but since we have a constitutional requirement, since we have the will of the leadership and 90 %, as regards those claims that are, well, of course, now , we saw this wednesday a good recommendation to start... negotiations with ukraine before joining the eu, but this is a long, lengthy procedure, it concerns both negotiations at the multilateral level, so and when, say in december, on december 14, a new eu summit will be held, where the european council will already consider the recommendations of the european commission, and then these recommendations may be adopted, maybe with

some modifications, maybe with some new requirements, but it seems to me that there is no way back, because now and the leadership and the ukrainian people want this when the actual negotiations begin. then there will be bilateral consultations with such countries, well, now 27 states are members of the european union, and of course our negotiators will need to fulfill some, maybe pretensions, well not pretensions, but a desire to go to a meeting with our partners , on whom ultimately ukraine's accession to the european union depends, but not to go... to any such concessions, which are in this connection, in this way, so to our diplomats, let's say, we have a new ambassador in hungary, there is already an old ambassador

in poland, but there will be a new government in poland, because there were held there on october 15, we remember, parliamentary elections are going on, there may be a new government coalition, although for now president duda has entrusted the prime minister moravetskyi, this is where our skills of our negotiators come into force, mr. yaroslav, look, this is a very important issue , lately, it seems to me, i could be wrong, it is more like the pressure is on the european union, and we therefore talk a little less , no no a little bit, we are generally silent, but i remember when i went to montenegro... montenegro was already a member of nato, and about the defense capabilities of ukraine, why is this not being talked about, you think, because there are some underworld one negotiation, or just a higher decision of the political leadership, let us first,

we will do this with an emphasis on european integration, and not integration into nato, i agree with you that joining nato is more important. although it means the majority of countries, croatia, which in 2013 became the 27th member of the eu, the countries you mentioned, montenegro and others, they joined nato first, they are exactly the criteria that were needed politically for the european union, and now let's remember that there was once a european, european economic community, then it was purely like that, well, or the majority. economic grouping by the european union, that is, there are political requirements for joining it, and precisely the fulfillment of the criteria that will help us join nato, and especially in the situation with

ukraine, which is waging a hot war with such a russian aggressor who wants to simply destroy our state, really it is necessary to pay attention first of all to nato , so it is only about what is against the russian federation, because it is a defense bloc, but it can provide assistance to our state at the bilateral level of individual countries, which it and does, there are statements by the leaders of the same jens stolteng, the secretary general of nato, that for ukraine the door to nato is open for it and it should enter if the people want it, if the leadership wants it, that's right, we are now for ukraine, in its specific situation the question that defense cooperation should be at the first level, many members, although it is clear that

not all, eu members are nato members, so for us the priority is joining nato, nato does not want, cannot simply accept ukraine at the moment, because it would mean war with the federation, that's why cooperation is going on at the bilateral level, first of all, the united states, not only europe, canada, those members who are outside europe, nato members, they are going to bilateral negotiations in order to help us first of all to endure, only then is the possibility of joining nato as such a comprehensive bloc. look, maybe the last question, maybe the penultimate, i haven't decided yet, but the question is this. now literally next week in the west of the united states there will be a meeting

of xi jinping, that is, the president of the people's republic of china, china people's republic and the united states of america, president biden. they will agree, as from your point of view, there will be kinai from the side of washington, or them. they are trying somehow to mix it all, somehow to make all their contradictions less obvious, there are many contradictions, the goals of the two countries are different, china feels the need to replace the former soviet union, and now the russian federation, with the second pole of the world, say, the united states, to which such vassals as russia, the dprk, iran, respectively, china does not abandon its goal, one day to return taiwan to its bosom

big there is a policy in virtually all countries of the world, and in the united states, and in ukraine, and in others, there is a policy, one country, china, two systems, that is, many, just the political system that they have, because we see the example of hong kong, what happened after great britain handed over to china in 1997 , this territory to china, and now it is actually... it is no different in political and economic terms from the rest of china, it is going to communist rails, the united states wants to keep in terms of the status quo, they will to help taiwan, because ukraine, which china does not really want to help, because it is here for russia, has a lot of work to do, i think it will, it is already four days until this meeting, where... the two sides will be able

and willing , it seems to me that it is still possible to reach some points, touch points and still prevent further confrontation, biden does not want this , first of all, because now there is a problem not only of ukraine, there is a problem of helping israel in its fight against hamas terrorists , i don't want another one in the far east to catch the whole conflict, it is there, let's say, the same democratic people's republic of korea, constantly threatens the countries of the region , is now helping russia, so this whole complex of all these issues, i think that the american and chinese negotiators, moreover, that mr. wang yi, such a chief diplomat of the people 's republic of china, he was on a visit to the united states of america, i think that such proposals will be prepared now. which, after all

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shelter good health once again, you see, behind your back. the israeli flag, it means that we will talk about the state of israel, mykhailo pelivert, an israeli political scientist, public figure, will be with us, and we will switch to the russian language, there will be a part of the program named after aristovitch, who constantly supports the russian language, hello, mr. mikhail pelvert, thank you for finding time for us , good evening, well, look, everyone has been talking about this for half an hour, somewhere around 12 o'clock, that they will surround... with tanks some hospital in gaza sector, well, i sit and think, well, they surrounded me, and now, well , it’s impossible to shoot at the hospital, and if hamas sits under the hospital, then it’s easy for him to sit there, and how could he sit there for another 100 years, if don't

shoot at the hospital, so it turns out that, well , first of all, we were lucky, because when i give an interview to you, the restriction of israeli censorship does not apply. therefore, i can reveal to you a big secret, well, which is known to us israelis, that according to some reports, according to our assumption, not only the leaders of hamas are in the hospital, but also a large number of israeli hostages are being held, therefore - the surrounding of this hospital is designed, first of all, to prevent the possibility, to transfer, to transfer, and as you rightly said, to destroy, first of all , the terrorists themselves, namely... ihia sinvara, who is now such, i would say, the personification of evil in the face of a large number of israelis, this is how to approximately raise the flag over the reystag, therefore, in the environment of this hospital, there is, firstly, i repeat,

an operational component, and secondly, in relation to the operational part of your task voprosa, i assume that i repeat, two goals, most of them are there, then do not allow them to be diverted to another place, divert them, and secondly, gradually realizing that this operation will last a long time, smoke out the hamas militants from there, which in i'm repeating something, i'm not a military expert, but it seems to me that this is exactly the idea behind the actions of the israeli army, so far the hospital itself has not been attacked, despite numerous reports, but the battles are being fought in the nearby neighborhoods, er, to the hospital itself, as at least 400 meters, i even have one

a few acquaintances, reservists who are now fighting there and once on average once in a day and a half have the possibility of censorship , now there is no kind of censorship, that is, no information about what is happening is being transmitted, now... in israel it is forbidden, and it is probably connected with the , that probably in the near future there will be quite dramatic developments there. mikhail, look, since yesterday they started talking very persistently about a possible exchange there 100 for 100 with the help of some negotiators from the arab world, as far as you believe in it, as far as possible, in principle, believe in it, as far as... hamas says, well, 100 to 100 is a fairly serious exchange, considering that there are 200, how many 240, 250 israeli hostages there, but it's already there the third... part, let's say, it's like such a success, can you believe it? well, from the numbers we know - this is 239 people

today, they cannot hand over all hostages, purely technically, it is impossible now, they are needed, they are kept in different places, and different organizations will lead and they are conducting these negotiations, hamas from the very beginning demanded the release of all palestinian prisoners from israeli prisons, that is, it is not just an exchange of 100 for 100, but from the very beginning they demanded the release of more than 6,000, israel with such an exchange, such a deal, we have a very painful history with the exchange of palestinians, hamasovs for our soldiers, the last time in 2011, we exchanged more than a thousand palestinian prisoners for one of our soldiers, gelad shalit. and the statistics are very bad, the majority, very large part of these,

these bandits, terrorists have returned to terrorist activities, and even glanvar is one of the terrorists who came out as part of this very deal, i now assume that we, on the one hand, will be difficult to refuse israel, if it comes to 100 prisoners , 100 hostages, i agree with you, this is already some kind of very impressive, if you use this word appropriately, one day a mass demonstration will begin in the center of tel aviv with the demand to do everything necessary to first of all return the hostages, and the number is 100, if indeed the agreement will be about such figures, i think that israel is more favorable. it will apply, but in any case, it will

most likely, most likely, eh, wants to spend in order to release the hostages, i now find it very difficult to believe that hamas will be ready to do this, israel would accept these conditions, but hamas, for whom the hostages are probably the last trump card up its sleeve, is unlikely to be, so quickly and so... en masse released from its this is the advantage that he has in his hands, eh, they work psychologically, they wage psychological war against us, they publish small videos, three thirteen-year-old children, an elderly woman, all these videos are shot according to almost the same scenario, that is, the hostages talk about that they need to be saved, that hamas treats them humanely , they end their speech by saying that benjamin netanyahu is to blame for everything that is happening. well

, i assume that this is not accidental, and the israeli society is very noisy refers to the issue of hostages, this is really the bare nerve of our society, and hamas understands this and acts precisely, exactly, for this reason. mikhail, look, here we are, in my opinion, even... we talked about it with you, we certainly talked with some of your colleagues, but here, it creates such an impression, if you look a little bit from lviv, where we are now located not very carefully, then no one supports palestine, no one has broken off, there, in my opinion, some two latin american countries have broken off diplomatic relations, no one has broken economic relations, there are no embargoes in relation to israel, yes, there may be a crowd of hundreds of thousands in london, but you know, in my opinion, there are half a billion

people living in europe, and 100,000 is not enough, why it is not heard why israel somehow, well, it seems so, maybe it seems so to me, tells about the real state of affairs, about the fact that water, medicines, money, and drugs have been supplied here all these years. food, electricity, and that, well, israel has it a huge number of aces in the hands, a huge