[000:00:00;00] the strongest, most powerful army in the whole world, there are some responsibilities in that, and , i don't know if anyone could convince, the kind of congressmen right now who want to stop the budget altogether, there's a very good possibility that shutdown will come this week, and americans, workers, and now before the holidays, when most everyone would like to get paid, it would be, it was tragic, what is your forecast for today, let's say, what is the optimal scenario, that is, the one that you consider the most realistic and the pessimistic scenario , so that we can also hear it from you and understood that it can happen, the most important thing is to understand the congress not only in the senate, in the white house, but also this month you will see that i have already received from three

governors, three mayors, and not four governors since yesterday's proclamation day regarding the commemoration of the holodomor and how this is an important moment in the history of not only ukrainians, but humanity as a whole, there is still support for ukraine at the local level, and then we are a politician who simply does not have connections with many other politicians, as it would be was any candidate who came out, a who had already been 10, 15, 20 years old, who had perhaps visited ukraine and had an understanding, but now we are also a little blind here in america to see how he behaves, and it is a little scary for professionals, well, with on the one hand, we heard quite a lot from

our friends in congress before and when the newly elected... speaker became speaker, we heard from them that they would not agree that he would become speaker without some agreement, and that there would be some kind of voice vote for ukraine, until that time, since that time, we have not seen and heard that the vote on aid to ukraine has yet to take place, but democratic senator jeff merkley said that if the united states stops supporting ukraine, it will be a blow to this generation and will greatly affect the national interests of the united states of america, as well as he noted that the termination of aid to ukraine would potentially lead to the appearance of cracks in nato , therefore, he considers the issue of aid to ukraine extremely important, and how will the reduction or termination of support from the united states

of america actually affect the country itself? well i think first, we will see if it would be temporary, we would, as we understand that the budget is now at 95%, they have already used all the money, but however, i don't understand if that also includes, the possibility of transferring weapons from some other economic may see something, but really a reduction would be very tragic, now now, because of what you mentioned earlier, that we are already shouting loudly here in washington and and where else we have meetings with senators, that now now we are lamenting just like us last year who understood what happened when those worries started against us, which winter last year wasn't really as terrible as everyone was complaining about, and

there were no big storms, no big frost at... such levels as everyone thought, it didn't happen, how could it get worse, at the time, at this very time, when we do not have an additional pppo, i, i mourn for this main thing, i mourn for our citizens in ukraine, our children, our schools, our hospitals, so that they are safe, really us obviously, another difficult winter awaits, but at the same time, it is not clear for today... how many we will still have to survive such winters, so maybe it will be possible to put some diplomatic pressure on russia, so that it at least abandons outright terror, which is the attack of cruise missiles on power plants, maybe the meeting between biden and sidzipin will help this, because tough conversation is expected. according to them , the us president will insist that beijing use all its influence on iran, the main goal of which is to prevent a wider

regional conflict. in the near east. according to the publication, part of the riots may also refer to us-china relations, including human rights, rising tensions in the taiwan strait and suspicions of beijing's support for the war. against ukraine. andrei, regarding the meeting between biden and sijipin, what is the focus of the expert community in the united states, what will be most important during this meeting? the main thing that we hear, that we see from the american side, that they really want to calm down any, speeches from the politicians here in america before that meeting, that will take place in san francisco. and we, america, would very much like to have a long conversation, a private conversation, but a long one, already at some points there should have been some votes in the senate, which they canceled, and

because they did not want any harsh words to come out before this meeting, the most important thing is that it should not be a short meeting, as you mentioned, there is not only one matter regarding the relations between the two countries, but there are those matters in the middle east, there is the same, our enemy, and what influence china has to that, and so, i would think, so is biden, and the whole, the american government complains about the influence of china on the future of ukraine, in the same way, then there will be a lot of discussion after after the victory, or after... the enemy will come out, how to develop ukraine and who the money will have the most influence, in that, the conversation is in that, but this america is also worried that ukraine should remain as such

a symbol of democracy and freedom in its region, and not fall under the influence of china. andrei, the last time biden and xizenpin met was in indonesia at the g-20 summit, it was last november. and here is a new meeting that everyone expect, and then there were a lot of hopes for that meeting last year, they say, they can somehow warm up, but in fact we see that it did not happen, in fact, why do you think and will there be a warming in americano-chinese relations after this meeting, the new one? everyone would like to see those hot, hot rhetoric calm down. well, just this week , the chinese government was selected from the main zoo in america

. among themselves, but these are equally important matters, as i am told by our spokespersons for the senators and congressmen who meet with ours. community just yesterday the senator from ilnaya had a very long meeting with our community in chicago, i will tell you that the american government would like to calm down the rhetoric a little bit and where we could return to cooperation, that would be good, but the main thing is pretty much the same serious matters, i mentioned how china helps, terrorism, whether it is north korea, iran, our enemy, syria, the same, but they also refer to taiwan, but

a serious political issue in america is drugs, the drug fentonel, and how much of it is not only from china, but how much china is using it to destroy america locally, this is a very, very powerful matter that they will discuss... when they meet again in san francisco, i think it is quite obvious that the two largest economies in the world, respectively, are two, contradictory, let's say so , in official documents, american politicians identify china as a strategic rival of theirs, we know about the measures taken by the government the usa in order to limit, for example, china's access to the latest technologies, which probably in the future china could somehow use against the usa. well, in this regard, how would you describe the strategy that the united states is implementing today, trying to simultaneously develop a partnership with china, where possible, and in what spheres and spheres to contain it, where it is

necessary in washington's opinion? there are many areas where the two major superpowers are working against each other, one in diplomacy, we can see very much... just now, when there was a vote on the international community, the international court, saw everything from this court, but in other cases, such as international cases, the security council at the un , china together with russia agreed there, in order to embarrass america a little in cases when the vote was about the near east, and there, at the diplomatic level, it is a hot war, just as when sharp words are used, but also money is used, specifically in africa, and also in

south asia, which has a very large influence, but nevertheless, one country, which we have not mentioned so far, this is india, the india that has the border, which is not decided on the border of both countries, china and india, is very serious for the future, china has rockets to space, but now india is the same , and yet it is interesting how other countries will interfere now, which traditionally do not were so influential in the international sphere, and yet, from one president to another, whether in ukraine or in america, everyone should think about the future, when we have an agreement with china, they are still there, they are still dictators and still control their . society as dictators, by the way, mr.

andrii, regarding american presidents, former us president donald trump said that if he wins the election in 2024, he may use febert's department of justice to fight his political opponents. in fact, why does he make such statements and what do they hope for, well, because he will be persecuted, one hundred percent, and we see court cases. unfortunately, this case, which, he's sitting in new york right now, in a court case, we don't see it live, but we know that twice, in the last two weeks, the judge in that case, announced that he does not believe in the words of the former the president, well, that is, when the president has other statements, and as a federal judge, he will understand that no one can believe the words of the former president...' because they are so false, and in the same way

we must think when, when he is like that, grandiose cases he says he could join, court cases against enemies, not knowing until it happens, i wonder if it will come back to another case, because we still have a long procedure before our elections, but it would just happen in the summer, and somewhere in august. on the 24th, it would become official candidate for the republican party convention, only then will we hear who, which advisers would return to him, which other new ones would join him, because now we now know that any of his former secretary, well, the minister of defense, the attorney general, would did not know, as i do, about such a grandiose statement by the president, we would not know who it would be, even

deal with it until he becomes a candidate, then there is still time before it is terrible for the world, i would say, as the president , the former president wants to have such speeches, but for now he will become a candidate, i would not think about it, we urgently need to think about ukraine now, do you think andrii dobryanskyi, director of communications for the ukrainian congressional committee of america, was with us on a direct video call, we heard his assessment of the current moods that are in american politicians regarding continued support for ukraine, and mr. dobryanskyi remains optimistic, stressing that the majority of american lawmakers support ukraine, and the situation we are observing with the complication of the allocation of a new help for our state, is primarily related to the presence of contradictions in the domestic politics of america, and some politicians are simply trying to solve these contradictions at the expense of the game. on the issue of aid to ukraine, mr. dombryanskyi has no doubt that this aid

will be provided and i would like to believe that he was not mistaken. let's believe it, and in moscow they are preparing for an attack on the energy facilities of ukraine, this is reported by the intelligence, probably the russians are waiting for the minus temperature. is our state ready for massive attacks, what was done to to protect critical infrastructure? about ukrainian, our government tsymbalenko talked with the minister of energy herman galushchenko. currently, the government official is on a visit to the united states of america, so the conversation took place in an online format. sir minister, i congratulate you, we know that you are currently working in washington together with the delegation of the ministry of energy, and regarding your work together with partners, are sanctions against russia discussed now, the issue of sanctions, well, it is already so ripe, well, ukraine has been talking about it

since the first days the great war, especially since when they occupied first the chernobyl station, and then the zaporizhia station, which is still under occupation, so it is very important... here, in fact, meetings took place here at all levels, including the rank-and-file, the ministry of energy, the minister, the minister of energy, the minister of commerce, the meeting was dedicated to the congress, and representatives from both parties, and in principle, this is what we talked about, which is very important, it is true that the united states, they have always been a leader in sanctions policies, it is very important now. . that the conditions have already been created for such sanctions to be introduced, in particular, due to the successful cooperation of the house company and narahat in the issue of the production of a new type of nuclear fuel, the storage of spent nuclear fuel, why is it important for ukraine and the world?

well, actually yes, we talked about it here with the management of the company, we have a successful experience of cooperation with holtek companies as well. and in ukraine, since the 21st year, we have completed and operated a centralized storage of nuclear polyno, this issue definitely has a commercial side, because thanks to this repository, we did not stop exporting to russia , even before the great war, the export of spent nuclear fuel, it cost us 200 million dollars a year, but in addition to commerce, this is a matter of national security and in fact it is a unique project that ukraine implemented in the world, in principle there are no such precedents. you also stated that there was a discussion during the visit, could you tell us more about what reforms we are talking about, what has already been done and

what we still need to work on? you know, actually if you look at the assessment report that was published this week, by the european side, the reforms in the industry on... these are rated very highly, and in fact we have done a lot and have been doing, which is the key thing, what we talked about, that these reforms, we did during the war, we, we, never once stopped , in fact, a very large number of reforms were implemented, here the representatives of the united states, especially mentioned, this is reformism, this is corporate reform, this is the formation of respective supervisory boards, a whole series of campaigns, both the oil and gas company and the operator of the gas transportation system of ukraine, therefore, it is very important that we definitely still have a lot of work ahead of us, this is the integration of the markets, both electricity and gas, this is the introduction of european rules, caplin, a lot of what we will actually do, these are our plans

for the next year and i want to say that it is very, very nice that on this path we also feel support and readiness to help us from the point of view of the fastest possible implementation of the norms that we need. as for the help of partners, it is energy sector of ukraine, will the partners help restore our energy industry, if they already help, then how? well, look, this aid, it has not stopped for a single day, i want to tell you that even before the massive energy strikes last year, which began on october 10, we were constantly receiving aid, and it has several aspects: the first is supply aid equipment, directly, and this assistance is ongoing, it has not stopped, not even for a single day, the second issue is the attraction of funds to the energy support fund of ukraine,

in order for us to be able to purchase the appropriate equipment that is needed , and especially this has become critical after the systemic terrorist attacks on our energy system, and today ... we already see that this fund has accumulated more than 300 million dollars, most of which have already has been spent and there will be matching funds coming into the fund, including from the united states, and we 're actually, we're confident that this will enable us to purchase exactly the equipment that we need. and here is what we know about the heating season in ukraine it has already started, and you stated that the russians have already started to hit our... infrastructure, which we have as of now and in the summer, yes, we are just not detailing the information about which objects in question, what the consequences are, but really , they did not stop, the only thing is that so far we do not see exactly massive , i emphasize, massive attacks like those that were

on october 10, for example, when they simultaneously used under 100 missiles there, in order to hit us massively strike, so we have information that they are preparing for it, well accordingly, we will respond accordingly, we can say that up to 60 times they tried to launch various attacks there. but again, it was in august, and july, and september, and october, respectively , that is, they do not actually stop, and in which regions there are significant problems because of this, see, unfortunately, we currently have critical there are no problems in the state, accordingly , you know that we have passed this year quite successfully from the point of view of, first of all, ensuring the supply of our consumers, by the way, this is also noted in the report of the european commission, that became...' the supply of electricity gave an impetus to the development of the economy in ukraine , it is true and restrained inflation, so these are very

important things, we must understand that, after all, energy, it is key from the point of view of the functioning of any state and other industries, industries in the state, respectively, in fact it is very important, we are looking, today the main problem, unfortunately, is in those regions that border with the russians, that is , or with the russian federation, this is sochi, you have already stated that now we do not notice such massive attacks, which were in the same year time last year, but despite this, we know that the gur said that the russians have already accumulated a fairly large stockpile of missiles, it is 800, and in your opinion, the russians can wait for the onset of cold weather for such massive attacks on energy facilities, why, is it possible that there is some another reason?

it seems to me that they are waiting for the temperature to drop, and they have kept it in the negative for a while and accordingly then they will strike , because, well, in that case, of course, the low temperature adds to the damage, let's put it this way, in fact, there is no, you know, marks there conditionally, yes, but any minus temperature, it already increases the risks, so to speak, yes, and in terms of our protection. energy facilities, we know that partners are constantly providing more and more ppo systems for ukraine, this week president volodymyr zelenskyy stated that additional nasems systems are on standby, and what can we say, to what extent our energy facilities are currently protected and do we need more reinforcements? it is absolutely obvious that reinforcement is needed, and we also talk about it here in quite some detail, because i was just showing the consequences here and how it looks like... hitting energy targets and

to what extent it is then really definitely a key question regarding our energy stability is air defense systems, it's absolutely obvious, we saw it last winter, we 're seeing it throughout this year, and so the more effective there will be an air defense system in the state, the more stable the energy sector will be, and accordingly, the more stable the economy will be. and accordingly everything else, and besides air defense systems, how else can partners help us get through this winter easier and warmer and brighter, well in fact, of course, we are talking about the fact that there are many projects to increase , for example, the decentralization of generation, they are more long-term, this is definitely not an issue there specifically this winter, but still, this is what we need and definitely this , it is important to do this and it will add stability to energy as a whole. ugh. earlier you stated that there will be blackouts in ukraine only

if the russians massively beat and damage our infrastructure facilities. has anything changed as of now? well, what about the latest attacks there? it is difficult to assess the level of attacks, and i would even say not so much as the level of attacks, as much as the level of influence of those attacks on the work of energetics, that is, the level of damage. therefore, therefore, definitely, this, this is the only reason that can significantly affect the work of energosim, and from the point of view of everything else, we are ready, well, we are in principle, you see, there was a lot of speculation even in the summer about the fact that there will be fallows disconnection, by the way, not without the participation of russian media campaigns, so we have already seen how we lived this year, another important question before winter, whether we will have enough energy...resources and gas in particular, we will have enough energy resources, and in this regard, we feel comfortable, the question

again, again, how much... future attacks, yes, they can affect the supply in general , for example, energy resources, but well, we have different ways of solving these issues, that is, in our experience last winter, when, for example, we could not supply one type of resource, we accordingly supplied another for the operation of generation, so, well, we go first of all in our priority is the issue of national security, the issue provision, work is energetic. but compared to last year, our energy infrastructure is much more secure, right? well, of course we've done a lot on that, yes we have, and it's not just now, i'm talking about a really huge amount of work that's been done in terms of increasing the level of air defense protection and really those modern systems, for example, last year during the winter we didn't have patriot systems, and the russians

attacked the energy system, using their very best, as they call it in the world of nuclear missiles, and indeed they hit and they did great damage to the energy industry,