[000:00:00;00] with a rare exception, it is, well, let's say this, at a very sad level, although there are also opportunities, and there, the election company imposes on it, and the manufacturers also do not want to run ahead of the trend, but they want to wait , it is clear that certain, a certain nomenclature , the most requested, they began to produce more , for example, 155mm shells, so production increased, for example , in germany in the united states, but there is a nuance, this is a thing that we do not like to talk about, this is an objective thing, in a year, the last, everything that the armed forces of ukraine need in the price increased from two to eight times, the 155th projectiles increased in price significantly, despite the increase in volumes, it is completely sincere now, if there is a manufacturer who understands that you can make money from this, he makes money, there are things that are not written about, but

are also objective, all more or less small productions, for example, 15 of the productions were bought there by several very famous, very powerful companies, they bought all these factories, they absorbed them and substantially increased the price, one and a half times, two times , three times, and we either buy for not having such prices, a country that is going through a war, its economy is, so to speak, in a sad state, on the other hand, it can be bought by governments and given to us within the framework of the so-called mtd, material and technical assistance, i.e. free of charge, but accordingly the price increases, decreases in volume. therefore, all this is very difficult and i will not say that it is very sad , but it is problematic to a certain extent, and we can produce projectiles in our own, we can produce projectiles, and we, in principle, began to produce a certain range of projectiles in order for the price decreased, it is necessary to enter a large series, in order to enter a large series, it is necessary again to have a skilled workforce, which is in short supply, to have equipment that must be purchased, so you understand, our western

partners are not very... wants us supply the equipment, the critical materials that we are asking for, you have to have a whole series of components that we lack, well, for example, gunpowder , for example, cellulose, nitrocellulose, detonators, capsules, these are all things that orgologists are very reluctant to share, so it's all very difficult, it happens, but let's just say if it is very abstract, what our defense-industrial complex will be able to do for a month so far is shot out in a day. well, with the exception of such a nomenclature as a 120-millimeter mine, the situation here is a little better, it is, let’s say, less complicated and more competitive, it is even reflected in the price, but shoot an artillery or 125-millimeter, tank shot especially, then there it is very difficult, we do not have the technology, we do not have the appropriate production, it is very difficult to make it from scratch, and there are not

so many countries that produce them to buy, and it is sold, they are really gold, but tell me, with such a situation with weapons, how long can a high -intensity war last, i mean, when an incredible number of shells are fired at once, we know that now the exchange of artillery duels is so conditional speaking, a direct approach to this, yes, but if you do not have enough bc, then accordingly you reduce the density of war, fire, if you reduce the density of fire, it affects the effectiveness of the operation, and it does not matter whether it is offensive or defensive. and there they need it here and there you need fire, but this and in principle the effectiveness of the military is revealed when they know how to calculate forces at a distance and replace those components that they do not have with others, well, for example, you cannot replace artillery with the help of uavs, and zaluzhny himself wrote about it, for example, but if you have the opportunity to strengthen this component, you can partially replace it,

you do not have enough, for example, there is ammunition for salvo missile systems , but you can more effectively use point ones such as hymros or mrs, you lack, for example, aviation capabilities, but you can remove and import , which can replace the ammunition that you lack, so this calculation is possible, but it requires very detailed, detailed, let's say, work, for this you need to have very... very many different numbers at hand. 22% of budget spending on security and defense, is this a sufficient amount to ensure? let's not play, well, objectively in percentages and in absolute numbers, i will say very simply, if necessary it would not be enough for the security and defense sector , it is objective, it is the first, the second, and let's not forget that it is significant, i will not name the specific percentages of the numbers, but

it is significant, huge. the amount of this money will be directed to the monetary remuneration of military personnel, that is, to wages, to additional payments, to payments to the wounded, to compensation, to the families of the dead, and if there is a need for conversations, analytical intelligence around the mobilization of its increase, well, for example, if you are going to deploy, in addition, deploy four, 5, 10 or even more there brigades, the question arises, will the ministry of finance have the money to pay these people, today there is no such money, and even if the military said that we need it, it is necessary to find an additional financial resource somewhere, and this will be very difficult . one nuance, which they either do not know or forget about, cannot be used for defense, that is, everything that comes in the form of loans, credits, help, any financial, that is, money, all this complains about any problems, needs , which are not

related to defense, including salaries of the military, absolutely, everything that is collected in the form of taxes and fees goes to the army, and the absolute majority of what goes to the army goes to salaries and benefits, well , this 22% - it happens six months, every six months we have a committee additionally votes for changes to the budget, then the parliament votes, we approve, the parliament supports , the parliament approves, that is, we will still have to find additional money, including for wages and benefits, well, if it is too much, it is a war, this is for those who doesn't know, it's an incredibly expensive pleasure, it's clear that the pleasure is in the benches, it's a huge problem, it's huge'. mobilization resources of military equipment, then what is the point of forming new brigades in such a situation, and there are several problems here , first, you still have to have some kind of reserve,

at least operational, what is operational, if you are conducting either an offensive operation or a defensive operation , from time to time you need to throw in some reserves, some resources, you can't pull out. the brigade, relatively speaking, from the bahamud direction is calmer, if we we see that on that side the russians are also withdrawing certain resources, so you should still have several brigades or separate battalions at least in reserve, which you can use as an operational reserve, if you need to plan a large operation, then you need to form a large number brigades, as it was from november to may, from november of last year to may of this year, you had to form two army corps in order to ensure the full one, well, what is the problem, that is why it is very difficult to talk about release in the reserve of military personnel, during the war, very much, there are a number of problems

here, we can talk about them for a long time, but the simple story is that the resources that are available are almost enough to conduct combat operations as they are, you can't just remove a brigade, because you have to put some other brigade in its place, and in order to do that, it's a very complicated, logistically, and militarily, it's a very complicated and difficult process, so it doesn't matter, and mobilization takes place and in order to restore current losses, and they are daily, they are larger, smaller, but they are every day, every day, every day some number of people die or get injured, and in order to have, to have some resource, reserve and to cover the borders in dangerous directions, and in order to have a minimum rotation, that is, the brigade loses a large at least in the second line in order for her to breathe out, to be replenished, that is, but you have to put someone in her place, so this, this problem, again, it's always plans, that's what's called plans, they

are formed in view of enemy actions, if the enemy is significantly demobilizing, if the enemy is accumulating somewhere, then you need to strengthen your positions if he is preparing somewhere for offensive operations or for a counter- counterattack. some kind of counteroffensive, you accordingly need to grow, as it sometimes seems, and not as easily as we would like, if we talk about the rehabilitation of servicemen, after the war, should we think about it now, about institutions, about real possibilities, because in in our society, you know, quite often there is an impression that the people who will leave the war are them there will be the political elite of the country , and we do not know the experience of long-term wars, so when people make a political career, as a rule , generals and parties in... we had to think about this yesterday, and from time to time government officials appear certain promises, well, in my opinion, it is progressing quite slowly, but i know that there are a number

of voluntary, public initiatives, there are a number of projects that are already trying to do something, and to think about the future and, let's say, the problems that already occur in military personnel, in those who... for example, released to the reserve, for injuries, some part of the responsibility for their condition, both physical and moral, for their restoration, for rehabilitation, but it will be a huge problem, in fact, if... what can we say, the government officials in the near future still do not will develop at least a draft of some program that should work, it will in principle be a huge problem, it will be a problem anyway, there will be a large number of people injured, people burnt out from the inside, people tired, one must think, it seems to me that this is still being paid attention to insufficient attention tell me what happened to the law on lowering the draft age, which was passed

by the parliament? about the necessity, well, for those who do not know, there is currently a rule according to which, well, it is due to certain nuances of the legislation, now they will not be looked into, but persons from 18 to 27 years old, if they have not completed military service, then they are not subject to general mobilization, in order not to slander us from may, in my opinion, the military in and on the committee, and in principle it went to the verkhovna rada, in general, to lower this bar, that is, to lower it from 27 to 25, and accordingly, after a fairly long discussion there, because it concerned a whole range of demographic , mental, sociological, and actually military issues, they went to a meeting of the military, understanding that their supreme council signed it, sent it to the president, the president did not sign it and did not return it , the constitution requires that the president within 15 days either... the law, or return it

with comments, apply the so-called right of veto, the president did neither, well, in fact, all our presidents sinned by this, but the law is sensitive, why it is not signed, i do not know, that is, one can only fantasize about the motives, what guided it, but this resource, although they said that this resource has already dwindled, because a certain part, a certain number of these potential mobilized , she is already in or has left the country in one way or another, legally or illegally , is not discussed now, or at least changed her place of residence without registering properly, so it will be very, well, more difficult for them to track them, that is, on paper, this resource they have already signed, that is, as far as i know, i have not heard that he can actually, well, sign the points , we have had cases when laws were signed in our country after a year, and i will not say which laws by which president, but there were also such cases.

because in principle it will be difficult to complain from a legal point of view that it was a certain delay, why, again , i don't know, maybe it's a politically sensitive thing, maybe, maybe, i'm just saying again, these are hypotheses, i i don't know how much they are funded or whether they are groundless, it's hard for me to say, let's say ukraine's prospects, because our demographic situation even before the full-scale invasion was, to put it mildly, not very encouraging. and now due to migration, due to losses, it has worsened even more, and some believe that perhaps it is necessary to somehow, well, at least calculate these things, well, there is one more circumstance that should not be forgotten, and the mobilization resource will be needed and when, perhaps, it will last years, we all want it to end as soon as possible, but no one knows this, and again, not even

the military. and the cabinet should expect how many people do they need in the economy, because let's not forget that if the economy improves , even we will have an army of 3 million, but there will be nothing to pay them, and the war will end despite the huge number of people in captivity, so this must also be calculated, all this should be pro-military, it is necessary, if we come to this, they should gather once or twice or three times and work out some model, some methodology, some according to which they will move, and just sit and wait, well, this is a bad story, but is generally like this the possibility to have such, i would say, general institutional consultations, well, who is preventing this from being done, what is the nuance , which, again, everyone forgets, we accept everything, well, first of all, we always have everything or others problems or not, there are less likely to scold the military there, and there is a certain leadership there, it does something wrong, sometimes we have, for example, there are critical arrows directed at the president, he did not do something there,

and for those who did not very well versed in legislation, i am surprised that now we have a key role in the cabinet of ministers of ukraine, in fact, all power in our country is vested in the executive power, i am not a special body during the war, in particular during the legal regime of martial law, which operates in our country, this is the council of national security and defense, who is it made up of, it mainly consists of members government we have a huge number of procedures, rules that existed and laws, they are simplified, for the period of martial law, they are simplified. and everything that used to happen according to the rules and procedures that were agreed upon, agreed upon, and at the meeting of the national defense security council, it is clear that the president is the chairman, who according to the constitution is

the chairman of the national security council, that he is a key figure, a figure precisely, during the war, but all these people are members of the national security council, any problem they have, at least raise it in they have a unique platform and not one for solving these problems, but often these problems are not solved there for some reason, representatives of various ministries and departments sat behind closed doors in a closed session on the committee platform, who finally had a unique opportunity to tell each other in the eyes about those problems and about different views on their solution, which for some reason they did not do, having the cabinet of ministers and the national security council, if we talk about the first persons of these ministries, how to give this image of ukrainian corruption in the army, which is actively now too, i would say that it is being exploited because it is far from the opinion that our ministry of defense is the most corrupt structure, this may be a crooked opinion, but i will explain why, again i return to the topic of the cabinet of ministers, it is not because i do not

like the prime minister er, am i credit wise is tuned to the government, the government works as much as it can, but it seems to me that given the scale and problems, it could work a little more efficiently, why? because when it comes to corruption, in our country everyone fights corruption, in our country, corruption fighters, according to the law, are not public activists, and the minister of defense or the minister of justice or the minister of health should not fight corruption, he should create an environment, say there with a low or zero level of attitude towards corruption, fight against corruption has bodies. to hell with them, they are huge, they spend a huge amount of money, there is so much of it, the security service of ukraine, the anti-corruption court, the sbi, these are all structures that have to fight corruption, if they do not fight it, then you can change the minister as much as you want,

as much as you want write anti-corruption articles and pass brilliant laws, we have the toughest anti-corruption legislation , i don’t know if it’s the toughest in the world, but we still have a reputation as a corrupt country, so i have a question, and these structures, to what extent i don't blame them, i just ask the question, this is the first moment, the second moment, any wrapper, if it works as a scheme, that is, a stability that brings certain dividends to those who invented this scheme, it works only if when representatives of various ministries and departments are involved in this scheme, you cannot... one ministry of defense, relatively speaking, for example, yes there, invent a corruption scheme and conduct, in order for it to take place, and even the armed forces, you cannot to stuff the military with some kind of corruption story, if it's not on topic not in fate, therefore the problem is a of political will

, b- of the inevitability of punishment, and the inevitability of punishment is the effective work of those bodies that we created, thanks to our western partners, who for some reason thought that it was enough... to create a tough law and a lot of anti-corruption bodies and corruption have been overcome, it does not work, but you have repeatedly said in our newspaper, how ready is ukrainian society to understand such an opinion? i don't know if anyone knows the answer to that question, i'm just sure that i sincerely hope it doesn't will not last for years, let's say this, at least we will get some respite for a certain time, that is, it will last, if you will, for years, not even talking, not talking about the 14th year, not even. but she really can, and once again we have to thank the hall for the fact that in order to prepare for such a long, difficult war, exhausting both physically and psychologically, it was necessary from the very beginning not to warm up, with unnecessary promises, on the other hand, society you have to prepare, which means

to prepare society, i don't have a single one recipe, as it should be, just as there is no single recipe for any, any problem, she says again. it is solved when it is divided into spare parts and in each spare part there is a mechanic who spins an approach to work with society , the right approach to strengthen mobilization work, it is necessary to create groups that included psychologists, lawyers, logisticians, pr specialists, e-mail specialists, who without from different parties looked at the same problem and came to some, some kind of solution, which would allow that problem, enormously, that risk is a challenge that is before the state, before the country, with the smallest losses, not existing , they wrote another law that is not known how to apply, but the problem is not you , the problem must be solved comprehensively with the involvement of a different number of people, it must

be done systematically and daily , well, that’s understandable, but maybe it’s also a matter of attitude to the situation of a specific person , the truth is, we’re talking about the state, but there is a society, there are people, that’s right, well, look, every person is alive, yes, he reacts on what is happening around, this or that problem, c including state problems, someone has a cold, pardon the word these wars, someone still does not sleep at night, because what is happening hurts him, people are different, and it is impossible to find a universal approach to every person, but in order to to form the right model of addressing people, it is necessary to work out this message, and that is why i say that in order to explain to people in order for these communications to be scientifically based, forgive the possible cynicism even. emotions worked and worked

effectively in the first six months of the war, in the situation stress, in a situation of shock, in a situation of adrenaline, now when burnout sets in, when fatigue sets in, and when for many it becomes a routine, fatigue accumulates in everyone, to a lesser extent, to a greater extent, it is necessary to find a different approach, each person is ready to be a hero, thank you, thank you, mr. sergey. serhiy rakhmanin, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security and intelligence, was in our program today, thank you for coming to the broadcast, thank you, dear viewers, for being with us on this broadcast, see you, i wish you victory , peace and faith in the future, good luck. bleeding and inflammation of the gums, my advice lakalut-active-active actively overcomes

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