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[000:00:00;00] other deputies, french, and the same thing happens in america, and in england, we see who holds posts, there is also the mayor, who is the mayor, of london, who is the first, the first minister of scotland, and what that what what that these countries are all well, they somehow try to be objective , it's very difficult for them to do it, europe, well, yes, it fell under this, under this islamic factor, and i understand that it is very difficult for them to resist it. mr. vadim, how much, how much, how much time will israel need, well israel, well, you know how russia will now set a date and to throw bodies, no one will, because israel is very, well, treats every life very , well, and that's why we will, they will do, you know, as quickly as possible, but as with less, with less and with
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less blood. yes, we see that the losses of the israeli army, well, how to compare with what is happening there now, you know, it’s just like a police operation, it looks like an anti-terrorist operation, but mr. vadim, what successes would be at the level of agreements, regarding such figures appear in the public space, about which prisoners it is said because from israel's point of view, everything is clear here, whom this state wants to take away. and who does hamas want to get instead? well, what i heard was that there was some sort of prior agreement , well, they see, some proposals appear, who puts them forward, who supports them, then they are canceled, what i heard was that they were going to exchange women and teenagers, how much it will be done, we'll see, we hope that it will be successful at least, if only
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from this to start. let's say so. er, briefly, if possible, the west bank of the jordan river, how does the situation look like here, because, well, certain movements, israel carried out and in relation to the population that is here? well, israel, since the beginning of this war, well, as it is customary in israel to call these territories, because the west bank of the jordan river - it is more like that, well, not in our term, which we perceive. and there are several very dangerous enclaves there, like jenin itself, where the eyes, groups and hamas and islamic jihad and so on are very active, there are a lot of them, they arise from time to time, there is a lion’s den, there was such a thing, recently they were , and therefore it may have been possible to contain the situation in these territories, let's say in those cities, although, well, there were hopes that
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the palestinian authority... they have power structures there that are supposed to maintain order there, but in some skirmishes even they took part in clashes with the israeli army, so their loyalty - it's such a thing, you know, when they need it, they are loyal, and that's how they are there, to whom they are subordinate, because there are quite significant forces operating there, and they stopped there, maybe, like even the first time aviation was there, er, involved for almost, well apparently, since 1967, this was the first time there was such a thing, it speaks volumes about very serious things israel's intentions on this matter, thank you, mr. vadim, vadim polishchuk, historian, the world
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fine. events of the day in two hours. vasyl zima's big broadcast, a project for smart and caring people. espresso in the evening. security forces tried to storm the barricades on independence square. vizlaly most countries of the world became a justification for the annexation of crimea. in the night from august 24 to 25, the situation changed radically. the rear turned into the front line. large armored convoys of russian troops crossed the southern border. here is undeniable proof that russian armored vehicles and
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russian troops are located here. and we continue the saturday political club, thank you that you are with us, as always, the second part of our program is devoted to a conversation with vitaliy portnikov, what about mr. vitaliy, i am starting to cast a fishing rod and i really hope to catch, as always, quality thoughts from you, i will start with your permission, with what i promised the audience , do let's take a little step back and return to the military situation in our country, which apparently still leads to the fact that russia takes away engines or some components for helicopters, what can this
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indicate? about the desire to take military action as long as possible, because they are really trying to find weapons everywhere they are, their agreements with iran and north korea do not seem strange, by the way, we understand that this offensive is under the cover of the audio, it could be... the result of real agreements of volodymyr putin with kimchanin. why, in principle, i keep telling khrystyna that vladimir putin wants to settle accounts with those who give him weapons, the latest, let's say, some technologies, russian weapons, which may not be needed on the front of the war with ukraine, but it may show signs on some other fronts. iran has strengthened, but we said , you know, this military cooperation with russia with iran, it can lead to stunning results in the middle east. i heard that the drone that fell in
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eilak, on the school in eilak, it could have been a missile. and so i kept asking my israeli colleagues, do you not think that the supply of drones to iran... russia, it is not just such a great friendship and mutual understanding, but it is just an attempt to test drones using live people as a target, in order to then bombard israel with these drones, and understand how to do it, how air defense systems work, how to disable them, how to bypass them, and that the russians are not just shelling ukraine with drones. which of course is also in their military interests, they also give iran an opportunity to see how it happens. the iranian proxy army, which is also closely watching, let's say, the armed forces of ukraine, which have no advantage over the russian armed forces from the point of view
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numbers, from the point of view of technology, as they operated in the first months, and this, too, it turns out, can be used in the war with israel. and when we talked about the danger of these drones, i did not meet any understanding. it's just that many people in israel refused to believe that we were just russia over there, and ukraine was just an ordinary training ground in order to destroy israel later, and this is the first such serious consequence that could be, well, the globalization of this conflict and an explanation of why ukraine, let's say iran was generally needed as a zone tests of his drones, and now there is a second story with a different type of weapons, arrangements with north korea, again, if putin starts to settle with the newest ones, that is, for kimchanin, ukraine may no longer be a training ground, but simply a means to
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strengthen his military power , and if russia's war with ukraine continues even longer, there will be many more willing to test their capabilities, here as a training ground, and it must be clearly said that this is an ideal training ground for dictatorships, or exchange their services to the russian federation for some, which will be just such a background, ugh, on which they may not pay much attention. attention, as no one pays attention now among the many who follow these conflicts, look at the world press, ukraine has already, as should be expected, moved to five tenths of the news, and where the european integration of ukraine is talked about more than about the war, it's true, it's as if everything is over, but the background of this war, long, slow, uninteresting, what an interesting war, but then there will be an interesting war in the far east, well, listen,
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of course. we cannot offer westerners society and the media of such stunning stories, fortunately, that the middle east can offer, because now we have no buchi , fortunately, no warts, fortunately, no penyan, fortunately, we have the rocket attack on kyiv, of course, it is always interesting when iskanders fly or some other ballistics around the big city, but fortunately, the hamasites are sitting under the hospital, where else will you take it. such a drama and how difficult it is to solve all these questions, i will remind you that we have already been the heroes of such a plot, azavstal, just like that, so, in order to be interesting to the world , you need to offer it dramatic plots with the mass death of the civilian population, this is interesting, intriguing, and then rob will ask the question, fortunately, this is our great achievement, we do not have, is the world used to blood , here we are, no, the world will never get used to blood, only there should be a lot of blood
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, both different and different, but fortunately we cannot offer such plots to more of the world and this is a huge success, we have to thank the armed forces of ukraine for this and the ukrainian people, but you understand, i very often hear from journalists, and you and i say that we live in an amazing time for journalism, because journalism is always a tragedy in ukraine, the less chance there will be for our profession, and glory ... god, but then the question arises, what to do with other tragedies, in order to , as strange as it sounds, come to this topic of weapons, in order to reduce the number of tragedies in the other world, this war must be stopped, it is necessary that ukraine no longer was a training ground for dictatorships, it is necessary that russia does not pay for the opportunity to kill ukrainians, the opportunities with vladimir putin, vladimir putin with kimchi and putin and kazakhstan went to tokayev with the same goal
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of seeking military support for something else, i think that here military support putin kazakhstan will not find christians, this , well, he allegedly dreamed about this at the start of a large-scale invasion, this is what people close to the military circles in kazakhstan itself say, but this, you understand, i think that with kazakhstan it is completely different history, russia sees, and this is also a direct consequence of the russian-ukrainian war. because what is the commonwealth of independent states? this is, you know, a wolfish pack of dictators, and here is this akele, he clearly took a swing, missed, and when we see it, we are not the only ones who see it, but tokaev sees it, mirzaziev sees it, i no longer i'm talking about ilham aliyev, he owns azerbaijan, never before in his life, aliyev masterfully played...' this chess
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game, but what about kazakhstan, look at what started to happen after the attack putin, the head of the people's republic of china, xijinping , the first visit after, canceled the policy of zero tolerance, against the coronavirus, various countries, the first visit was made to kazakhstan, although it was optional, he. immediately go to samkandao samin shlankhansky organizabi. he specially flew to astana, said that china will be the guarantor of the territorial integrity and sovereignty of kazakhstan. then the president of kazakhstan also attended the china central asia summit in china. he came to china for a couple of days to celebrate with sidzempino
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in their si, that is, to the second episode, yes the third episode, the president of france emmanuel macron, in astana, the federal chancellor of germany, olaf scholz in astana, all go to kazakhstan with different proposals, even if you imagine that france and germany think, that kazakhstan can be part of china's economic sphere of influence, it also suits them, hiding economic putin all the time confuses his name and patronymic. that's it, and you think that he really doesn't know his name, it seems to me that you and i have already been clinging to this moment and you said that this is such a deliberate neglect, you know, of course, everyone in russia knows exactly what kasym and marta tokayev's name is for one simple reason, tokayev has been present in this post-soviet political arena since the 90s, i even remember the times when he was the minister of foreign affairs, always, but what, there nazarbayev made some kind of decision, and what will martsik do now, will he go somewhere on a visit now, or
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will he stay in kazakhstan and do some other things there, i heard that a million times, and i'm sure that putin also knows perfectly well who it's that it's not some person out there who blurts out. and that putin does not know how to say this, no, he simply shows that you are someone there with an incomprehensible name, incomprehensible to your father, who you are, what is your name, i do not know, this is a frank neglect, what takaev does during the press conference with putin , in the kazakh language, this has never happened in my life, but sultan nazarbayev never allowed himself to do this, and there was a scene when they members of the russian delegation began to return. on chairs so that headphones are put on, headphones vastani, what a shame, and they were just buzzing, you could see that they were all fighting and shouting right there, and even this paragraph in kazakh, which just sounded like a protocol speech, well
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, part of kazakh, part of russian, by the way, as do, say, the leaders of canada, who pronounce part of the speech in english and part of the speech in french. because this is such a tribute to the two state languages, takayev went exactly the same way, although it is obvious that the kazakh language is now a priority in his country, no, it was still clearly caused this, will maneuver and drift at the same time, here is nazarbayev's kazakhstan, he did not drift, he only maneuvered, this was the policy of the first president of kazakhstan, that he did not want to drift away from russia, he wanted to maneuver to the west, somehow...' economically with china, but drift's opportunities for him were limited, and drift's opportunities for kazakhstan are not limited anymore, so in this regard, i think that putin did not need weapons, because negotiating with specific military units, giving money to specific officers and generals, and buy these weapons, and
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they will not negotiate, even putin had to say that he respects the fact that kazakhstan takes into account its international obligations, it is about sanctions, that's why. do not violate sanctions, you see, international obligations , do not help russia to circumvent sanctions, that's all , and this is an absolutely perfect story, i would say, about a visit to kazakhstan, which once again says, look, russia is losing influence in armenia , russia is losing its influence in azerbaijan, i warned, i think we are with you when. it was said that as soon as karabakh problem, i will not say that i like the way it was settled, i am very sorry to see the fate of people who were forced to leave their native homes, in which azerbaijan immediately with all the tension in their relations, the influence of russia will be very small, russia is now clinging to this
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influence says, we agreed that if there is a corridor, it should be controlled by the fsb of russia, you see, well, in general , everything in this world should... republics in central asia, some others, in some places where they will be provided with, i would say guarantees of sovereignty, first of all, this is what really worries all of them, even dictators are worried about sovereignty, they do not want to be the first secretaries of regional committees or governors of putin. and, actually, if we recall your thesis about closeness, or demonstrative closeness, kasim zhomar's family together? well, they speak the same language, kasima takaev knows chinese. certainly. after all, this
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meeting between joseph biden and xi jinping on november 15 could be a subject, at least any mention, during putin's visit to kaza. i don't think that takayev and putin can seriously discuss the meeting between biden and sidzempin, because they both have no influence on this meeting, well, they can discuss anything between themselves, but because they are transit routes, well, yes, there are two ways, which is the way that i would say is lobbied by the americans, there is the way that is lobbied by the chinese, then of course i would like tsar kazakhstan to go through all the ways, so that in this regard he can discuss with sidzempi. well, how the american-chinese economic relations will be regulated in general is an important topic, but putin has a lot to add to it here, because you understand that if putin continues the confrontation with... this is such a huge territory that has actually stopped
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to be a transit route, remember, even two years ago, all the planes that flew from europe to asia, everything went through russia, everything went through russia, i remember how my russian colleagues told me, after the maidan in 2014, either please, should we fly in the other direction, when are you flying to japan, i said, how about the other way? kishlyah, well, for a few hours , but just so you know, i didn’t think in this category yet, i thought that i had to get on a plane in frankfurt and get off in tokyo, they explained to me, no, you can’t fly through the upper airspace of russia, because under the introduction of sanctions against you by the russian federation, ugh, and the people against whom the sanctions are introduced cannot fly over the russian federation, because god knows what will happen to you if the plane suddenly lands due to an emergency landing, you are nowhere to be found you will not fly to tokyo, you will stay for everything life in vladivostok, and i learned, by the way, that the diplomats of many western
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countries do not fly in that direction when they fly to the countries of the asian takhelekan basin, and then it turned out that now planes do not fly there at all, it was a huge story, profit a huge air fleet, you can imagine the tens of millions of dollars russian airlines received for this , the transit routes have changed, the transit airports have changed, i recently saw a scoreboard, a photo of the scoreboard of the moscow shirimetsev airport, where two flights, ugh, belgrade and istanbul, but it is interesting that these two flights were translated into only one language, which, guess what, yes, well, russian, thank god, and the translation is definitely not english, i’m sure, why, well, listen, well, tell me already, that is, that is, this is also a civilizational choice, and, after all, the meeting of the sides of pin and
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