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mobile application. it will be possible to find real estate, what will happen there with expensive yachts or other objects of such a wealthy life, in what way to sell them , as we can see, the first ukraine that followed the path of using these assets was canada, first of all, it due to the fact that they do not have a lot of that real estate and those

assets, and they are actually and in the context there for example, sanctions against russia or individual officials were one of the first, because the russians who lived there sometimes had residency, some even had citizenship, here it is already a more complicated procedure, which was not developed in previous years, because there were no similar precedents, but now the international judicial system has a long way to go to find these mechanisms, which are already moving away from, let's say, the fourth point, and we see how different approaches are used, somewhere there they offer to sell oligarchs football clubs in britain and give funds in favor of ukraine, somewhere we see how they freeze the transfer of payments of several million dollars in the united states between friends, oligarchs, that is, the approaches are different, the question is that after their implementation,

the same russian oligarchs through the european courts and other judicial institutions did not have... even the slightest chance to question the legality of these decisions , the question is why actually, formally now we will continue mr. maksym's opinion that some european states, they fear transfer these frozen assets, i.e. it is one thing to freeze and keep them, and another thing to use them to help ukraine , he fears precisely that the russian oligarchs will try to... judge this money through european courts. what else do you think exists regarding not only freezing and announcing amounts, but transferring real funds to ukraine. well, we must understand well that everything related to funds and not only is still ours, it is not our legislation, european legislation. it general european legislation, in

addition, there is the legislation of individual countries. and so that there would be no precedents, the consequences that could happen, so that what you said, so that our russian oligarchs would not be sued later and get their own back, that's why they are hedging all these options, working through all these options, and most likely, you understand, they have not yet had such a practice to transfer frozen assets , whatever, yes, ms. lyudmila, please continue, yes, yes, yes, further, then back, no rewind with the russian oligarchs, people, what should be done in order for sanctions, for example, to work. or what exactly needs to be done in order not to fall into them? er, you understand, if this were the only mechanism, then this would not have happened , yes, such a single mechanism is transparent, we must understand sanctions, yes, there are legal mechanisms, there is

a political component, but for each individual situation there really is a separate one in addition to moreover, this legal component, where they cling to it, they study their lawyers, this legislation, and i will say that very important legal companies work for them, which look at where it can be circumvented, and they proceed from these sanctions, it is clear that if, as you say, this mechanism was transparent, there would be clear norms in themselves, well, the legal norms are in the european legislation, but we must understand that europe is facing such and such a war for the first time . here it didn't work out, we come from the other side, we say that they came out of sanctions, how is it, but we must understand that there is european legislation inside , where these oligarchs also understand it and they are looking at how

to get around it, how to get out, if we will, their lawyers offer ways to get out, we, in turn, offer as they cannot be avoided, these same ones. but in europe, the legislation does not change so quickly, that is why they find these loopholes, but the european legislation, the european courts, you understand, it is in the law, there is this precedent, they will act like this, they will make a decision and they will be removed some sanctions, and we have ours in turn we say that no, this is not possible, this mechanism must be adopted, but it will be adopted later, but we have these consequences, what we have is that some yes... really do come out of the scope of sanctions, but we must understand that these are unique ones that are being developed now procedures, they did not exist, europe did not face this, it did not know about it, the sanctions that were imposed earlier, but this is still - you understand,

we still have such a problem that if it was not russia , and the country, let's face it, which does not even belong to vrodbes oon, but that's how it was here is iraq-quite, sanctions were imposed, because there was a decision, it was mandatory to implement it, even if you do not, but we are here now, since we have russia, she entered the radben, we cannot get this decision, that's why we go through these mechanisms, each asking the european union, individually , to impose its sanctions, but we understand that there is this legislation, these gaps and it will take time to remove them, but russia, the russian oligarchs take advantage of this, and they get out. from all this, it is clear, therefore, we should do it well, it is good to understand how all these legal mechanisms work, so what do we understand politically , we will do it, our diplomacy does it, we note it, but the legal mechanism is not

so fast, its adoption, no matter how much we don't like it, thank you, thank you for helping to somehow generalize and normalize knowledge, because in reality such a scheme is quite opaque , thank you ms. lyudmila, pakroschuk, doctor of philosophy, expert in domestic and foreign policies, joined our broadcast, and political scientist maksym dzhigun is also with us, sir maxime in the russian government is now very worried about possible future sanctions against russian diamonds. please explain this complex scheme, because it is actually not so easy to understand why , first of all, it has not been possible to make a decision in the european union for so long, there have been discussions about it for a long time, and why it will hit so hard. economy, well, first of all, why is this process taking so long, because many european countries still continue to trade in russian diamonds,

earn extra profits from this, in particular we can say about belgium, we can say about such a town as antwerp, where there are whole rows of streets on which diamonds from different countries of the world are sold, and of course from russia, and as the regional authorities say, how do some politicians at the central level , the fact is that if belgium stops selling these diamonds, they will simply disappear from the market and cease to be considered one of the centers of sale of such elite products, such elite jewelry. at the same time, the authorities of the european union, leaders of the countries of the european union, indicate that we are ready to give up these russian diamonds, but if, for example, countries in africa, which also sell diamonds, refuse to sell russian products, then we will not get out of it.

market, because everyone will be in their native conditions, if we block, then let's block everyone and we will not continue to work with this russian market, and secondly, the question about what kind of profits it brings, well , certainly in the conditions of active such sanctions a regime closely opposed to russia, and diamonds and generally any sphere which remains afloat, it generates a certain percentage of the russian budget, it is obvious that these funds... are directed to sustain the russian economy, including financing the war against ukraine, so the issue of diamonds there, the issue of still selling gas and oil, other issues directions in which russia continues to work, it causes concern, well, for example, the same rosatom, which still operates a huge number of nuclear power plants around the world and builds them and supplies them with nuclear fuel. these are all the things

that allow the russian regime to survive, and this is a debatable, complex issue, debatable not from ukraine's point of view, because we would forbid selling anything to the russians, that's how we understand it, it's just that sometimes in some sectors, such as two nuclear power plants, we understand that there is currently no certain alternative choice, however, yes, it is really necessary to move in this direction, let's change the focus of the topic a little more, let's talk in particular about international support for ukraine both financially and militarily, because now, even against the background of the war in the middle east, it is becoming an increasingly relevant topic and if not to say a problem so, among other things, laser-guided munitions for destroying russian drones will be available to our military in the new military aid package that the united states is preparing for ukraine, reuters reports. the amount of aid is 425 million dollars, so that ukraine can repel the russian invaders, the new package of military aid is planned to provide ammunition for anti-aircraft missile systems of nasa

and artillery missile systems of hymars, small arms and trucks. at the same time , the united states has not detected a single case embezzlement or misuse of military aid provided to ukraine. this was stated by the us ambassador to ukraine bridget brink in an interview for the fox news channel. she also emphasized that the ukrainians were incredibly open and provided all the necessary support for monitoring. i can say that not a single unit of equipment was misused, not a single unit of humanitarian aid or any other direct budget support or other types of assistance. maksym nasvitailov, expert internationalist, joins to our broadcast, mr. maksym, congratulations, dear, before we move on to military aid and financial aid to ukraine, let's talk a little about corruption, which was commented on by the ambassador to ukraine, bridget brink, and recently... the minister

minister of foreign affairs dmytro kuleba stated that the fact that we began to hear theses about corruption in ukraine more often in the west is, they say, a consequence of our european integration aspirations, our path to the european union, some want to use, let's say, there are certain problems and to take them on the flags in order to, well, let's say so, create problems on ukraine's path to joining the eu, and also, the second reason is the pre-election race in the united states, and those who oppose it say so, or decrease. aid to ukraine, these theses about corruption there, a kind of super-corruption of the ukrainian government, are being promoted. in general, mr. maxim, these are two reasons, that's all, let's put it this way, is it, or at all , do you agree, because i think everyone has really noticed that, in particular in the western media and even from western politicians about corruption in ukraine has become more, but first of all, i think it is worth considering another reason, that the russian federation invests a significant amount of finances... resources in discrediting ukraine,

that is, of course, we cannot deny that we have corruption in the country, this is a big enough problem, but the way the level of corruption in ukraine is hyperbolized, it really does not correspond to reality, if we see the statements of the same certain european politicians who are pro-russian, they are in many ways the drivers of these, not the creation of such a super image of super-corruption in ukraine. because when the prime minister of slovakia comes out there and says that ukraine is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, or in general there are some, such... such, well, not very, not very conscious, generally call ukraine the most a corrupt state, yes, yes, it is very, well, it is necessary to pay attention to it, hungary is also such a flagship for discrediting ukraine, they are working very hard on this direction, indeed

, i repeat that we are in no way trying to say there that we are all like that in white coats, y we don't have corruption, we have it, we have it at a serious level, but... this does not correspond at all to the statements made there by certain western politicians, and as it is described there, for example in that scandalous party, it is for us to fight with such speculations, also connected there , with the elections in the united states of america, because well, we have to understand that ukraine is still one of the main topics in geopolitics, and therefore , whatever country it is, it is enough plus, plus or minus weight, and especially if it is the united states america like ours. partner ukraine will also be a fairly important topic during the election campaign and from speculations, actually, how do we overcome corruption in ukraine , in order for us to have something to conditionally sell to our partners, we need to create this product, this product can be such loud

landings, high-profile media stories, it will really be able to neutralize all those efforts of our enemies to discredit us. to maksym dzhigun, i have a question, we have a week of european integration ahead of us, we are waiting for the visit of ursola funderlein, prospects for the beginning of the negotiations, the negotiation process, regarding the accession to the eu, but can such statements like the one made by fico, like what orbán is saying now, prevent the beginning of our negotiating positions, regarding the accession to the eu, and whether the measure itself is subject to the european union , official brussels to such manipulations on the part of some members of the european union? and we have to separate the position declared by individual european union politicians and heads of state, and the official position of the european commission there, and other

leaders of the european union as institutions, because it is the official institutions that make decisions about ukraine's readiness for negotiations or unreadiness, and they treat orban and fico in the european union with a certain understanding, understanding that these are specific politicians, using the european union as a donor to enrich their country and to generally keep their own afloat economists, because if hungary left the european union, then it would be very sad, and it is unlikely that they would make such statements in the context of ukraine, because they themselves have paid a lot in their political life. so the process is this agreements between ukraine and the european union regarding already direct negotiations on accession with the oligarchy, what the venice commission said was not done, but there are difficulties there and not from our side, so this point and seven are not evaluated and were not evaluated as such,

but in the end we have achieved serious progress, which actually creates all the conditions for the process of direct negotiations with each country to begin. a member of the european union, but when the decision to start such negotiations is already made, that's when we will have more problems, like orban and probably a few others, so the crisis that we had and still have there with poland in the context of the stoppage of transportation there or sharp political statements, will look, you know, like an easy walk and flowers, compared to what awaits us in the negotiations, sir . maksym esvitailov, while we have corrected the situation a little now with mr. maksym dzhigun, i will clarify with you whether the ukrainian delegation and ukrainian diplomatic efforts should somehow try

to correct and improve our relations with hungary and slovakia, given that after all the decision in the european union is made by consensus, i think we need to do everything possible to get a positive decision for ourselves, but can we improve relations with slovakia and the russian federation, and that not only my belief, it is the belief of many high-level politicians in the european union, if i'm not mistaken, i may be wrong about the name, but it seems that boral was talking about the fact that especially after the scandalous statement of the prime minister of hungary, viktor orbán, about what, well, when he broke hungary's membership in the european union with the occupation by the soviet union, he said, look, we 're not three of you here, there, russia bought you, the entire political elite for 2 billion euros. and we are allocating more than 20 billion euros for the development of your entire state, in this regard, so of course

it will be very difficult for us, it seems to me that just this ukrainian case, it can become a reason for certain transformations to take place in the european union, to change it is possible that these rules are based on absolute consensus and in general there was a certain internal one for the european union, and in order for the eu to speak, sets... some specific clear conditions, requirements, they themselves also need to meet these criteria that they declare, and for this they should really work on hungary and slovakia, in first of all, this is not our task, first of all, this is the task of the european union as an institution, in fact, this is about our path, if we talked, probably, let's understand along the way that, in principle, yes, well, in order to join the the european community, first of all... it is necessary

to persuade, let's say to prove, actually, the ability of the main players, of western europe, of old europe, probably first of all , and what about us with this, so to speak, mr. maksym dzhigun, is there a consensus among those players who are probably looking back there maybe the baltic countries or the countries of eastern europe, because let's talk after there is at least a consensus in western europe, so is there one? this process would move much faster and we would hear statements from macron or scholz similar to what we hear from the baltic leaders who say that ukraine should be taken to of the european union and not drag out this process for many years, so obviously they will also have questions, although you very correctly pointed out that a lot depends on these countries, other states, which nevertheless stick to a certain center in the context of... their decisions about acceptance or non-acceptance of other states, therefore , we will have to conduct separate

negotiations with germany, france and other states, they will want to receive certain guarantees that, for example, after ukraine's accession to the european union, there will be no economic problems for these states, and ukraine for sure will receive its additional quotas for the import of a certain product due to security itself, due to the migration of people and similar other things. and here are the seven points that we have now fulfilled, absolutely do not mean that in the context of the ukrainian legislation there, we will not need to make other decisions, there are